By popular request, some astrological notes on the USA election. Caveats: I don’t like making political ‘predictions’ and even if I did, this one is too hard to call. And, as an Australian, I don’t have a pony in this race, so to speak.
It is, however, fair to say that the outcome of this American presidential election will have ramifications far beyond USA domestic affairs. And there are some fascinating astro-factors around all this.
America’s Pluto Return Election
This is the first election since the USA’s Pluto Return! People don’t live long enough to experience a transit this monumental but countries…empires? Of course.
America’s Pluto Return was on/off over 2022 and exact on Feb 20, July 11 and Dec 28. Obviously loads happened over that year and much of it was crazy or contentious. However, note that July 11 was when the James Webb Space Telescope – one of the most awesome scientific achievements in history – beamed back its first images.
FYI, the previous three exact zaps were on July 4 1776, January 2 1777 and Oct 8 1777.
So whichever party wins this election, it will set the tone for the next Pluto era – ie: the next 245 years or so. Every incoming administration is a startover moment or potential policy pivot but the 2024 election is definitive.
The Mars Factor
Mars vibe is rampant; The current military build-up in the Middle East and elsewhere may not be unprecedented but I don’t think the USA Central Command has ever been on this level of alert during an actual election before.
Fresh off an opposition to Pluto, the Warrior God is in Leo and trine Mercury in radically candid Saggo + the Moon’s Node in pioneer Aries.
This is a dramatic but positive Grand Fire Trine! However, the impending Mars Retrograde – December 6 to Feb 24 – means that the volatile Mars-Pluto opposition is back for the first week of January.
The danger seems to be less ‘an event’ on the actual election but a chaos-generating weeks-long contested-results drama that lurches into the Mars Retro phase.
Whichever side wins, if the results are clear and more or less accepted by the other party, this could be a productive Mars Retrograde.
Kamala’s Double Pluto Trip
Kamala Harris has had a huge few years of mighty hefty transits. Pluto in Capricorn was square her Libra Sun and Aries Moon from the moment she was sworn in on January 2021 until October 2023.
Even allowing for the obvious pressures of her position, especially at this particular moment in history and with the President’s decline, that once in a lifetime Pluto transit to such potent points must have been quite the crucible.
Her second Saturn Return was exact on Feb 21-22 2023 – She was apparently in Maryland to announce “updates on the Biden-Harris Administration’s attempts to lower costs for homebuyers.”
While she was addressing a possibly unconvinced audience, Vivek Ramaswamy announced his run for presidency as a Republican candidate and Vladimir Putin announced that Russia was withdrawing from the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
The Vice-President probably would not have thought ‘fuq this Saturn Return’ but she may have felt frustrated or thwarted. You see, her Saturn is at 28° Aquarius and adjacent to her 2° Pisces Midheaven. This is a position that – yes – seeks high rank or power but also feels an acute sense of duty when in public office.
Saturn conjunct the Midheaven can mean that while you may wield major influence, you’re not necessarily going to get the credit you ought to.
When I was looking at the Wikipedia for Kamala Harris to try and fine-tune her Saturn Return activities, I was surprised at her accomplishments/the list of what she was up to over the last few years. Granted, I wasn’t making an effort to follow the V.P. but regardless of whether you like her/her policies or not, the general social/popular media slant glossed over a lot.
Sexism? Sure. But she was also sworn in with Saturn squaring her Mercury in Scorpio, almost suggesting a conditional vow, a muting. And she announced her candidacy in July 2024 with Pluto at the point Saturn was in January 2021.
This means that either (a) Harris re-found her voice, having transformed her thought style over those Pluto transits to her Sun & Moon or (b) that she may project more power but the new deal would be as conditional as she found the previous one.
She has Venus (her chart ruler) conjunct Uranus and Pluto in Virgo/the 4th – super-domestic concerns and immense drive to transmogrify the circumstances of ‘outsider’ or disadvantaged people, particularly women + girls.
Given a narrow-beam focus, I think she’d thrive. I don’t mean ‘narrow’ as in limited but more like ‘secure X – solve Y’ – not the perpetual runaround of presidential geopolitical s**t.
Her running partner – the potential Vice President Tim Walz – bugs me. He is a triple Aries (Sun, Mars, Jupiter) and while I’m not sure of his Moon or Rising as there is no birth-time on public record – his Saturn is at 1° Pisces, conjunct Kamala’s Midheaven
When you have your own Saturn on the Midheaven, just a few degrees away or even if you don’t, the last thing you want is a colleague or employee who has their Saturn on your Midheaven. It can work if the Saturn person is the boss or an officially much more senior and beyond-you mentor figure. Perhaps not if you’re aspiring to be or are the first female president of the USA.
In this case, Walz could cramp her public image without even intending to. His Taurus Mercury is also opposite her Mercury in Scorpio! This is fantastic astro if you want someone to help you pump up your debating style or play devil’s advocate but it’s not crash-hot for being swift on the uptake re where one another are at.
Team Trump Is Surprising
Whatever you think of Donald Trump or his policies, it’s fascinating that he has presumably over-ridden his well-documented hyper-hubris to assemble a team around him who are much younger, brainier, more charismatic, or a thousand times richer ( Elon Musk). Or even – a la Robert Kennedy Jr + Tulsi Gabbard – recent Democrat party Presidential candidates.
Is he really feeling his 11th house stellium (Venus, Saturn, Mercury) and opting for a squad vibe?
Or they are a means to an end? If he wins, is he likely to wake up one morning on a whim and fire them over Twitter, sorry X? Who knows?! But his running mate J.D. Vance is a Leo with his Venus + Ascendant in Leo (note his cat eyes that look like he’s wearing kohl) AND conjunct Trump’s Mars in Leo Rising.
This is a bromance for sure but Vance’s Mars in Scorpio precisely squaring Trump’s Mars/Ascendant suggests that if these two ever fell out substantially, it would be an electrifying and enduring feud.
You can see Vance’s Scorped up Mars in his self-propelled rise from the background he chronicled in Hillbilly Elegy through the United States Marines Corp, Yale Law School and so on. He is a classic Mars Person in that you could drop him on one of the poles or Alpha Centauri with a mission to be back for dinner at a certain time and he would do it.
It’s also a potential liability in that it squares/contradicts his suave Venusian Leo Ascendant: simply put, when the stakes are not so high as they are now, he could tire of poise and sting-attack instead. Then again, that sort of Mars is brilliant when dealing with international gangsters or dictators.
J.D. Vance’s best asset is probably his Virgo Mercury trine Jupiter in Capricorn – clever analysis on the fly, speedily expanded into a broader context or better idea. In contrast, Trump’s Mercury is in Cancer and square Neptune in Libra: It’s tangible in his sometimes sing-song tone, sudden swerves into unrelated monologues and on/off relationship with the truth.
Mercury-Neptune square communications styles can be difficult because it’s like they listen, hear every syllable and then bam: did you even say anything? You realize they’ve wiped whatever you said – they’re talking about how their grandmother had a Hermes cocktail ring that turned out to be fake or why someone should bring back the brand of tanning lotion girls wore in the Eighties.
There Are Leos Everywhere
J.D. Vance is not the only Leo in the new Trump Squad: The biotech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy is a triple Leo (Sun, Mercury and Mars in Leo) with Capricorn Rising and a Gemini Moon. His Mars is conjunct J.D. Vance’s Sun and they’re old friends from Yale.
While it’s unclear what role he would play in a hypothetical Trump administration, he has an array of strongly held views – from a theory that 75% of the public service should be fired or that climate change policies are more damaging than climate change, to the proto-vegetarian view (and disclosure: my view also) that “it is wrong to kill sentient animals for culinary pleasure.”
Also vegetarian/vegan, the former Democrat and military veteran Tulsi Gabbard – whom you may recall from her flaming debate with Kamala Harris at the Democrat’s 2019 presidential primary debate – is a quadruple Aries (Mercury, Mars, Sun, Venus) but unfortunately I don’t have a birthtime for her. She does, however, have her Moon and North Node in Leo – the same Node as the American birthchart.
She has a brilliant Mercury-Node alignment – the gift of being able to logically, at lightspeed, perceive how things will play out. Her Aries Sun, Mars and Venus are opposite Lilith-Pluto in Libra so she’s able to be bi-partisan, at least to the extent that it drives evolution. Her major asset is Jupiter conjunct Saturn in Libra – the stateperson’s dream astro-aspect.
Rounding off the big cat input, Robert Kennedy Junior – the other democrat who decamped – has his Ascendant and Pluto in Leo. His Capricorn Sun is on America’s Pluto, which seems strangely apt for a Kennedy, somehow.
This Sun of his is also conjunct Mercury, Venus and the North Node, all in the 6th house – health and service, amongst other things. You may not agree with him but this suggests sincerity on his part.
He cops a lot of flak for his alleged anti-vax views but I first encountered him via his work on water. He’s been tirelessly advocating for clean, plentiful water and better policies around it for decades. In 2020, he and Erin Brockovich accused the then President Trump of “by far the most consequential attack on the Clean Water Act in history.”
Kennedy has Mars in Scorpio square Pluto in Leo and conjunct J.D. Vance’s Mars so they’ve got similar modus-operandi in some ways.
Can you see how all this Leo buzzing about with Mars in Leo about to be Retrograde is just wild?
Astro-Similarities Between Kamala Harris And Donald Trump
I know, I know – it seems absurd but one of the reasons it is so difficult to pick an obvious winner in this race is the astrological similarity between these two.
Trump is a Gemini with his Sun at 22° conjunct the Node at 20°. Harris has Gemini Rising at 24° conjunct the Node at 25°. Jupiter in Gemini is wildly beneficial for both of them and to about the same extent. So yes, they are from the same Soul Pod.
Kamala has the Sun in Libra exactly opposite her Aries Moon at 27° degrees. Trump’s Sun is exactly opposite his Sagittarian Moon – they were both born at the Full Moon and while obviously unalike in an array of matters, their Air-Sun/Fire Moon kinship gives them a similar temperament.
Their Moons are trine, their Suns are trine and their Mercuries (Harris in Scorpio, Trump in Cancer) are trine. They both have Jupiter square Saturn, which can make them feel as if they’re outsiders, no matter how illogical.
Most interestingly, given that they are in competition, their Mars are conjunct: Kamala Harris has Mars at 21° Leo and Donald Trump’s Mars is at 26° Leo. People with their Mars this close together are often either fierce rivals – as they obviously are in this situation – or can work surprisingly well together.
But really, I am stunned at how similar their astro is and because they’re both so Jupiter amped at the moment, each has – astrologically – a fairly even chance of winning.
Thoughts?
l wonder does tulsi have good astro vibes like rfk jnr?
Interesting post MM, the alignments of the running mates is noteworthy
Love this post and the objectivity. I was personally sad to see Donald Trump win this election but reading this made me think more about the group around him. Did he assemble these Leos after the attempted assassination? Didn’t Mystic say that date stimulated his Uranus?
I loved J.D. Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy although I read it when he still identified as a democrat hahah. I related so strongly to this line (about a family member) “But yeah, like everyone else in our family, they could go from zero to murderous in a fucking heartbeat.” Show me the last Republican politician with a memoir like this?
I empathize with the people who’re unhappy with this outcome but I’m consoling myself with the fact that someone with like Vance has risen this far. I didn’t think it was possible anymore, tbh.
He’s an absolute snake. I mean, as long as you don’t care about his unrelenting lies and hypocrisy and blatant misogyny, his despicable devaluing comments about women who don’t have children, his calling Kamala Harris garbage, sure. Great guy. It’s okay to read the room and save your empathy.
I’m with you, Venus. There’s nothing good about any of them. The “young bloods” are even worse bc they likely have longer to cause harm.
Anyone not living here is really in no position to tell us how it’s going to be ok even as a sympathy comment.
It’s not ok. We are not ok.
Thank you @Susan Said So – I feel quite alone and worried so I especially appreciate your comment. I guess life is easier at this moment for the uninformed.
Yes! That whole crowd is a menace. I live in California with my wife. I have a 10 yr old grandson w gender dysmorphia (he socially transitioned at 4, he’s been telling us he’s a boy since he was TWO) & the thought of what Trump & Co will do to ruin his life makes me want to DIE. He’s pre-pubescent, quickly approaching the point of needing gender affirming care (hormones, THEY DON’T DO “SEX CHANGE” SURGERY ON CHILDREN*) & his state of residence is very red. I’m terrified for him. Even in a perfect world I’d be afraid for him but THIS has me eating Tums like candy, staying awake all night pacing the floor, crying multiple times a day.
So no, Trump /Vance apologists. I’m sure Hitler was interesting too, but we wouldn’t elect him to run our country. OR WOULD WE?
Ugh. How are we supposed to stay sane again? I forget…
Hitler was Time Magazine’s Man of the Year 1938, and the New Post treated him like an A List celebrity.
We are in for “interesting times.”
*New York Post
Hitler was Time Magazine’s Man of the Year in 1938, and the New York Post treated him like an A-List celebrity.
We are in for “interesting times.”
Geez. It’s also okay to not go with the pro Kamala camp.
She lost. She had no policies, except about pro life (which was hammered quite a lot as a result.
As in Australia, politicians should be there on merit, not gender.
KH has been controlling Biden for years and was always wanting to be President, I predicted it years ago, like many.
But feminism isn’t a good reason to have incompetent women in leadership-in ANY profession.
Not going with the Kamala camp is choosing a fascist felon. Not ok.
I agree Silvervirgo, I’m not a fan of Trump’s bombastic way & there’s lots of alarming commentary, but there are younger people on the team, JD Vance as you say, tho he has hard right views, harder heads perhaps, politics is the art of the possible after all.
In this transition time as Pluto moves from Cap into Aqua, and as Mariposa commented also Neptune moving, let’s also remember the very much longer view that this is also the changing time of the great ages from the duality of Pisces into the (hopefully) more holistic times of Aquarius.
Duality is certainly having its day, but hey, it’s not the Inquisition!
It’s hell. Our fellow Americans have elected the Devil himself because they’re afraid of their shadows but refuse to face all the clear and present dangers. Vance being younger just gives him more time to do harm. My government is the enemy of the people.
My sadness too from Australia.
So Ms Mustic, is Trump’s election Pluto’s last big FU to underlying structures before his departure? Feels like it.
Please look into the cult that Tulsi Gabbard was raised in.
I lived with followers of the same “spiritual master” (doing farm work! Not as a devotee myself) and saw first hand both the power and control he has over his followers (who see him as *the* mouthpiece of god, photo of him on the alter next to god) AND that after one phone call, all the devotees immediately dropped everything to go into the major town for several weeks and work on her campaign (2012) — (the farm and business itself being in the middle of many major projects!)
Of course—who’s to say for sure if she is still a committed devotee? But seeing as she has not distanced herself from this man, and it feels like her entire political career has been set up by him?? It’s Machiavellian
I thought I’d share a reflection by the late, great Hilary Mantel, written following the 2016 election. The whole essay, which also treats of a possible ecotopic pregnancy she had when she was young is worth reading, but this seemed like the most relevant part. The Mars retrograde we’re in begins and ends on her Cancer Sun-Venus conjunction too, so here’s the watery wisdom. On election day 20216, she was flying back to the British Isles after a stay in NYC:
“As the polls were closing, I was somewhere over the Atlantic. As we flew into the light, one of the air crew came with coffee and a bulletin, with a fallen face and news that shocked the rows around. They don’t think, she said, that Hillary can catch him now. I took off my watch to adjust it, unsure how many centuries to set it back. What would Donald Trump offer now? Salem witch trials? Public hangings?
“For decades, the nice and the good have been talking to each other, chitchat in every forum going, ignoring what stews beneath: envy, anger, lust. On both sides of the ocean, the bien-pensants put their fingers in their ears and smiled and bowed at one another, like nodding dogs or painted puppets. They thought we had outgrown the deadly sins. They thought we were rational sophisticates who could defer gratification. They thought they had a majority, and they screened out the roaring from the cages outside their gates, or, if they heard it, they thought they could silence it with, as it may be, a little quantitative easing, a package of special measures. Primal dreads have gone unacknowledged. . . So much has become unsayable, as if by not speaking of our grosser aspects we abolish them. It is a failure of the imagination. In this election as in any other, no candidate was shining white; politics is not a pursuit for angels. Yet it doesn’t seem much to ask—a world where a woman can live without jumping at shadows, without the crawling apprehension of something nasty constellating over her shoulder. Mr. Trump has promised a world where white men and rich men run the world their way, greed fuelled by undaunted ignorance. He must make good on his promises, for his supporters will soon be hungry. He, the ambulant id, must nurse his own offspring, and feel their teeth.
“At Dublin airport by breakfast time, the sour jokes were flying over the plastic chairs: there’ll be plenty of work for Irishmen now—if you want a wall built, the Paddies have not lost the skills. I wanted to see a woman lead the great nation, so my own spine could be straighter this blustery sunny morning. I fear the ship of state is sinking, and we are thrashing in saltwater, snared in our own ropes and nets. Someone must strike out for the surface and clear air. It is possible to cut free from some entanglements, some error and painful beginnings, whether you are a soul or a whole nation.”
Thank you for sharing, Embarkons. Mantel was a wise woman, who knew something about people’s psyches, like a true Cancer. She also had her Uranus conjunct her Sun. And she wrote ‘A Place of Greater Safety’, a historical novel about the French Revolution (worth reading, though very long)
I am reading this at the moment Calcifer and loving it! So timely🙂
Wow, what synchronicity, WaterGem 😊
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I love A Place of Greater Safety too, and reread it about a year ago, partly definitely with an eye on Pluto in Aquarius and the question of how new ideas spread and take on form in the world–and mutate in the process. It’s so rare to find a writer who’s both such a powerful mind and such a profound stylist. Love that you both are into this novel. And my personal favorite of her works is Beyond Black, about a psychic medium and also the long afterburn of trauma and promise of breaking free. I miss her too.
What struck me most about Mantel’s account of the period following the French Revolution, was how much of the process consisted of endless meetings and exchanging thoughts, trying to come up with new principles and solutions. Years and years of it. And then, how everything became more and more rigid and finally literally everyone became an ‘enemy of the revolution’ and was executed…
Goddess, how I miss Hilary Mantel!
Thank you for this
“I fear the ship of state is sinking, and we are thrashing in saltwater, snared in our own ropes and nets”
In the shower this morning it occurred to me that we (Americans) have been & are being waterboarded. Endless, constant, intentionally inflicted terror with the very real possibility of death.
We are NOT OK!
Barrier 4 won the cup
We know the breeder and didn’t know it was his! Torture I bet the whole of Walcha was betting big bickies on it. Cha Ching!
Wait, are we talking about the M cup?
Don’t do political analysis again Mystic. It was kinda like reading MSM with a few planets thrown in.
Hi Augusta, this article provides a look at the astrology of a political situation, it is not a political analysis. And it is well done.
agree, that was really interesting to read and the only election-coverage thing I’ve been able to take in without having to tamp down enormous anxiety in order to do so! they can just say they didn’t enjoy that, or just keep it to themselves, not everything has to suit everyone ( kinda thought we all knew that?😆)…
Really? Not sure I have EVER read anything like MM’s post in MSM. I do believe, Mystic can blog what she wants to blog, and she is always cicrumspect in the rare occasions she discusses ‘political’ topics.
wow
Feel free to look for your political analysis elsewhere Augusta, CNN or Fox probs more your speed
What a weird thing to say to the owner of this site. Who are you? That’s such a Trumpy attitude.
JP aligns very much with Mystic’s astro analysis too, thank you so much Mystic xx
I’m an old girl, I’ve been on the left all my life, until 5 years ago when everything changed.
& after years of cognitive dissonace, here I am, sorry if I offend anyone, let’s talk
Wierd is the new orange, Pluto into Aquarius
I think you were bang on about ‘squad vibes’ too. Very insightful I think anyway.
Yes, he has quite a team of formidible change-agents, I’m not sure he assembled them so much as they assembled themselves & he’s astute enough to accept them, interesting times.
We are still in orb of the Galactic alignment & the evolutionary forces are far bigger than 1 human
Totally agree. 👍✌️
I was trigger happy then. Beers! I am not sure what to think but interesting times indeed. The whole world seems a circus. Well, maybe it has been this entire time? It has all been bewildering this thing called life really. I hear what you are saying though and that was what I was agreeing with. I think!
yes very xx
Bewildered is sacred place, an urge to be lost & wild, to go to the wilderness, to be wild xx
Yes Trump is very easy to dislike & it’s been tough, I get how folks feel,
Jordan Petersen analysis of his personality is super interesting,
this is where we are now & its not a surprise, after so many years of structural unemployment & globalisation gutting peoples livelihoods, yes here in Australia too,
to me the change is welcome, not without trepidation
I like RFK, he’s a difficult personality, but he’s been giving it to them for a long time, about chemical pollution of water & food crops, food additives etc as well as vaccines which he’s so derided for
You live in Australia, and you welcome Trump being elected in the US? That’s… Is that what you’re saying?
I live in Australia and fear for USA as the Trumpets blast in every direction 🎺 🎺 🎺
Hitler had a “quite a team of formidable change-agents” too.
Nothing about this is good unless you’re a Trumper.
Interesting article about JD & Usha Vance
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/jd-vance-wife-usha-vance-politics-amy-chua.html
So it’s funny that you say Trump and Kamala are from the same soul pod …. Because in fact, in the Mayan /13-moon calendar Trump is indeed the white dog, and Kamala, the red serpent. Both archetypes that belong to the same “tribe” or planetary family (4 signs per family). And ironically, the hours leading into the next day, as the fate of the election was decided, were guided by the dog. So I had a distinct feeling it were to be Trump. And how the archetype of the dog plays in so perfectly to his energy and “rule” of America is a whole separate and eerily aligned story.
Thank you, mystic. You’ve been my guide for nearly a decade.
That’s very cool, thanks for adding that snippet. I have had a lot of Mayan energy around me this week and need to look up some of their calendar! Have you any nice links you might share? Mystic has been my guide for 20 years or something now. Reading her in the Australian Newspaper was like finding my soul tribe to that lone teenage Astrology nut who had no friends with similar interests. It’s such an honour to have her in my life in any form!
Hi Sphinx! Hope you are well 🙂
Re your comment above, I have a suggestion, ‘Mayan Calendar Shamanism with Julian Katari’ (he is from Bolivia/Mexico/Chile) – this is on the Rune Soup Podcast. I believe you can do a course with him also xxxx
I just don’t understand how this outcome aligns with anything about the new Pluto in Aquarius era.
Nothing about him winning evokes hope or trust or freedom or … innovation, even. It all seems very Pluto in Cap. Male, misogynistic and authoritarian. I don’t think Kamala is perfect – no politician is – but I just don’t understand how someone who spews hate and regression is the symbol of the US moving forward in this new era.
I’m gutted.
It’s so much more layered on a macro level … as the threads of the universe’s matrix are to be. It’s not one singular outcome begetting the reality of another. It’s multiple at once.
It’s like an orchestra of threads…one that was long in the making and it’s reality will result in the gutted one that has long been festering in the exploitative, Yang-dominated civilization of capital and greed that is America. And we need this, in order for the long result of innovation and its dire importance to actually take place.
It’s like Obama’s presidency was not the end of racism but only the start of gutting its depth.
I’m sorry. I don’t get it. We need a tightening of the long woven threads of Yang-dominated greed? I think we’ve just lost layers and we’re into sledgehammer territory
“…an Orchestra of threads…” perfect! That’s what it is and who are we to judge and what are we to know?
I love everything you’ve written here, Dasha.
To quote the much-maligned source, wikipedia: Plutocracy: A plutocracy or plutarchy is a society that is ruled or controlled by people of great wealth or income. The first known use of the term in English dates from 1631. Unlike most political systems, plutocracy is not rooted in any established political philosophy.
Pluto is the lord of the underworld. I’m not sure why anyone expects anything Pluto not to include the rising of dark forces, it rules sewers. This is the rise of uncle scrooge.
Aquarius is fixed air, egalitarian and the sign of those who walk to the beat of their own drum. Add some sewer borne ego and they do not give a rats what anyone thinks and will gather around them the brains trust that appeals to the people who are undecided and can get them over the line. Now watch him destroy everyone close to him until he is a demented island in the stream and we are the ones enduring his hurricane. Sweet jesus this is insane. But honestly having someone I know and trust who lives there and has explained their meh about Kamala Harris this outcome feels relateable – not smart, not logical, but human and relateable.
If you look to saturn, the traditional ruler of Aquarius, this also makes sense. Enter the lord of the underworld who has recently realised that he needs a village and has gathered enough *cough* star power around him to lure in the people who were on the fence because the Democrats displayed such hubris that they just went along with what they had and thought it was enough. The fate of the world rests in the outcome of a Democratic crafternoon of making do and mending when they should have gone back to the drawing board. Never settle for ‘enough’…
Me too. How’s this for the new/old president: 34 Felonies 1 Conviction 2 cases pending (not now) 2 Impeachments 6 Bankruptcies. Luckily their constitution has safeguards in place for a deranged president & there is congress to stymie anything totally outrageous.
Except unfortunately now there are no safe guards and we are all in for a globally rough ride as the rise of right wing facism continues.
I don’t think the majority of voters were thinking about the greater good within their borders and they sure as shit weren’t thinking about anyone on the outside. The fact that Gen X women who lived their lives with access to abortion made a huge swing to Trump now that they are beyond breeding age implies a gaping void where big picture thinking goes. This has been like watching children play with matches in the forecourt of a servo. To anyone reading this who voted for the party that took your votes for granted and didn’t allow another candidate to be voted for let alone chosen to run, I am genuinely sorry. I hope they do better for you next time.
It’s not our candidates that are the problem it’s our FELLOW AMERICANS who care more about what bathroom a 10 yr old boy with girl parts uses, or how much gas costs right now, than they do about the welfare of their fellow humans. It’s not Trump, it’s TRUMPERS. 😡
Interesting take. Seems emotional. I get it. But a lot of those ‘trumpers’ were swinging democrats and not once prior did I have a conversation with any of the ones I know about children’s genitalia, you are obviously privy to a different kind of democrat. None of mine have mentioned the election since it happened, I’m not sure what that means but I’m giving them space. I’m sorry (genuinely, because this is a global issue) it didn’t go your way this time. If you have the luxury not to worry about the price of gas to get yourself to your minimum wage job where you earn barely enough to pay the bills and feed the kids who may or may not have WC issues maybe you can do some volunteering during the next primaries? If the Democrats let you have them…
Yo, Susan who sometimes says so and sometimes says no, I was scrolling up from the bottom and I read the post about your family member after I responded to this one without that added context. I was wondering why your comment was so weirdly specific. I’m even more sorry it didn’t go your way this time now for their sake but honestly, the democrats need to do better for their constituents ie: you and your family. You will obviously disagree with me and I’m ok with that. I hope you’re able to find a safe space for them to grow in – and to be honest I don’t think there are many places in this world where that would be an easy ask. This is about finding your people, I wish you the best of luck with that.
Really well said AstroGeek – I’m gutted and actually feel almost out of body today.
Trump’s 11th house stellium (Venus, Saturn, Mercury) while in Cancer, are in the House of Aquarius. That’s a lot of Aquarian vibes.
Wake up. It’s not the 1970s anymore.
It is in Trumplandia!
What do you mean? What are you referring to?
I think Calcifer’s right, and this is a victory that on some energetic level happened in the past, part of the old paradigm.
It’s interesting the think about the larger election autumn as unfolding during this last Pluto-in-Cap gasp: while taking off on such a short runway may have been an impossible task, I feel like there was a definite, definite blunting on the part of the Harris campaign during the Pluto in Cap regressing: announcing she wouldn’t raise capital gains taxes as much as Biden had planned to (under the current status quo the rich are taxed less on their investments than working Americans are on their earned income); there were the endless townhalls with Harris and Liz Cheney in beige pantsuits. I hugely admire Cheney’s courage and integrity, but there was also a loss of a larger momentum to incarnate a bolder democratic platform. But I also believe the best visions we all had of a really coalitional, inclusive, loving, joyful paradigm are a stirring of the new energy that’s going to be rising and part of our pluto in aquarius too; and during that a ripening of a true readiness for feminine power and leaders that aren’t macho and incarnate and lead the way to something new.
I’ve been riding my own waves of shock, heartbreak, and resolution, and know this is a good time to regroup and mourn and ready the seeds we’ll be planting and sprouting the ground of the new era.
I feel you
I think this is the platform against which Pluto in Aqua forms – Trump is the deliverance of the past era against which the society forms in response. We can’t see this as the negative. the scene is being set for the people to reconfigure and now respond. Let’s respond, with our goodness.
This is a constructive idea, Methinky, Trump as a catalyst for change… It will be hard work though
Not all change is good. Persecuting LGBTQ+ folks, targeting children, rolling back environmental regulations, revoking women’s bodily autonomy are some of changes we can count on with Trump & Co at the helm. Great if you’re a white, homophonic, climate-denying, tradwife. Terrifying & potentially devastating if you’re a decent human.
fwiw astrogeek. (personal opinion on Pluto incoming)
I don’t think Pluto itself bring about a utopia or better times or whatever. think of Pluto in Libra. it didn’t make relationships better or perfect. it gave us no fault divorce and put the spotlight on equality in relationships etc. Pluto in virgo before that gave us birth control and the beginnings of reproductive healthcare. none of those things were (or ever could have been) resolved in that timeframe, but what Pluto does is to unpeel the thick fug of ignorance and assorted forms of deception to get to the actual problem underneath. naturally because some groups or people would stand to lose a lot with a change in status quo, they get a bit fractious and push back etc..
sometimes increased hope trust and freedom is inconvenient for some. but Pluto will be there for a while so who knows?
Same.
I’m feeling the terror in every atom of my body. DJT is against everything I believe, am, love. My fellow Americans are apparently insane or stupid or incredibly selfish (or, obvi, all 3) and every single one of them who voted to put him back in power can kiss my a$$! I’m 63, & genuinely believe it’s the end of the USA. Not that that’s a bad thing in the grand scheme but it’s terrifying on the personal level. I’ve been on a news & social media blackout since I saw how election night was going to end. We’re screwed here, and everyone around the globe is going to be screwed as well. I hate it here.
It looks like Donald Trump has won. However. Looking at it from an astrological standpoint, the victory is occurring while Pluto is in the very last degree of Capricorn and about to leave the sign permanently (for our lifetime), with Mercury having just entered its shadow phase before turning retrograde on November 25, and with Mars also in its shadow phase and about to turn retrograde on December 6.
It doesn’t look like there is a lot of vitality in this victory. It seems like it has happened in the past
Exactly. That was my main astro reservation about all this – that the election would fall at the end of pluto in capricorn – while the roll out of kamala and walz in august, when the wind was really at their back, was during pluto in aquarius. I believe the vision of that time, of a truly inclusive, loving, caring and mutually uplifting culture is the one that’s coming, and that we need to fight for and dream and create into being with every word and every step. Love and solidarity to all.
Good to hear your opinion, Embarkons7!
I do agree very much with your observation that good things have to be earned, and that it is possible. I am at the same time also concerned that Pluto in Aquarius doesn’t automatically favor a better society. When Pluto was last in Aquarius starting from 1779, it took 10 years for the French Revolution to occur. Which means that the Ancien Régime were able to hold on to power for many years. It only came about when Uranus entered Leo in 1789. Of course the French Revolution did not change life for the better either, it was in its own way as harsh on the people as the old guard had been, just in a different way.
And after they cut of royalties heads a Napoleon set himself up as royalty defeating the purpose!
Hi Pegasus, yes, but still Napoleon was a different kind of royalty (crowned himself!). A very Uranus in Leo kind of phenomenon…
Yes, great points both, Calcifer and Pegasus, and it’s absolutely true that there’s a potential dark authoritarian side to Aquarius and that the recoil on revolutionary moments can be strong. I’d add the Haitian revolution and its promise of a truly equal new decolonial politics and the way that was spoiled by internal and external forces (France charging Haiti with loads of debt most notably) to our unfinished business, for creating the truly new way of doing things that’s about caring, creating, power-sharing, and uplift and finding a way out of the old bluster and violence of imperial forms.
I’m triple Aquarius myself (sun, moon, mercury–with Cap to hold it all together) and strongly feel the promise of that truly inclusive ecologically and relationally whole and flourishing world and believe this is going to be a tipping point toward working to create it: we either kill the old paradigm or it kills us. But it’s not inevitable and there will be the harsh controlling sides of Aquarian energy, the visionary energy that sees a vision as ugly, as much as there’s the move toward the healing paradigm. It’s up to us to incarnate the later–and I do think we’re seeing the last ugly gusts of the old paradigms thrashing around, here in the US and in the world at large. Sending love and strength to us all.
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thanks for saying this, I think it’s easy to forget that Aquarians can also be rather dogmatic lol
or aquarius energy may be a better way to put it
Good things have to be earned?
That’s a really positive sentiment @Embarkons7 — my very deep concern is that we have to factor in the roles and impacts of AI and social media. One reason I’m so discombobulated today is that 2 people close to me, despite their education and benefits of living in a solid albeit flawed democracy (Australia), are spouting conspiratorial s**t they have been stained with, by submerging themselves in social media.
Yes, I think you’re so right to raise this point Quintile and think a huge amount of what’s going on and the election result is that more people than we’ve even known have gotten lost in the algorithmic muck of hateful ideas that are reinforced and reinforced. Recently discovered a first cousin one removed has been deep in the swill, and this platforms are so designed to run on a fear, outrage, superiority, and to push on the levers of our social psychology to make the ideas that circulate there feel intimate, as real as talking to a friend. I badly want to believe in a more humanistic digital ecosystem with an entirely different model, but a deeper part of me feels that the core resistance has to be bulwarking and doubling down on the old human world of sensuality and flow, real gathering and intimacy, about be able to lean on and build and deepen the best parts of it. But just how we’ll get out of it when so much $ and now political capital is vested in AI and social media, I’m not sure. But it’s always hard to see the force that will change reality, and if there’s tools have been built and poisoned in less than two decades, across the coming two decades we can build a new paradigm that’s more human, vital, heart-based, fair, and kind. But whoosh, it’s going to be hard: so grateful to everyone here who helps keep those flames lit.
‘… and these platforms are so designed to run on a fear, outrage, superiority, and to push on the levers of our social psychology to make the ideas that circulate there feel intimate, as real as talking to a friend.’
This is so true and it is a terrifying aspect of our reality today. Thank you for pointing this out in light of the election result, Embarkons7
I feel like the phenom of the conspiracy platforms is a Neptune in Pisces occurrence – and Neptune is nearing the end of its run there too. At some point the bubble will burst, as Neptune transits into Aries. How that manifests… well, who’s to say… it could be a wave of martialism, war, aggression, putting the fantasies of Neptune Pisces era into action… or it could be a wake up, bubble-burst, crash back to reality, the reclaiming of autonomous beliefs, and not being (mis)led by faux gurus.
I say this tentatively as i know there are many who dip their toes into the conspiracy pond, and others who are so deep in it they no longer perceive it as water (like that quote about the fish “what’s water?”), and i also don’t think that all ‘conspiracy theories’ should be written off as bunkum either, but what has happened as a result of social media spread, is more like the contagion of a virus that infects peoples’ abilities (or desire) to think and critique for themselves, in part because it is comforting to belong to something and to be told what to think… especially when the world is confusing. I don’t mean this to be patronising, but i’ve done my own time in ‘Truther’ groups (unwittingly – it’s very easy to be pulled in via some adjacent channel), and seen how the hierarchies of leadership in that particular global community are just as bad as in any other patriarchal ‘religion’ (for lack of a better comparison). And they are very patriarchal… and they do not respond well to being questioned or critiqued by their ‘followers’ either. It is cultish. The expectation is that people should critique everything they have been told – by others, “the state”, the masses, the media (“msm”) – but not them. And those who do question get belittled and ostracised. Again, cultish. And deeply divisive. ‘Them vs Us’ mentality… The conspiracies themselves are just a smokescreen, a focal point to harness attention and energy… the blame game (immigrants, undocumented migrants, the media, politicians etc) is largely scapegoating, for the same reason as always: to deflect attention whilst seeking to attain or retain power and resources for oneself.
I can’t help but see this greater phenom – paranoiac conspiracy platforms, anti-intellectualism, the rise of the far right, the election outcome – almost entirely as a gendered issue, whereby a surfeit of disgruntled, directionless, & disaffected males are seeking to ‘regain’ dominance after the perceived loss of power to women through a few decades of women’s liberation. And secondarily, a race issue, for much the same reasons – a mere few decades of advances toward equality and restitution (in some places at least). There are millions of men now flailing without jobs, work, purpose, prospects, girlfriends, wives, homes, families… but they have the internet – and each other. It’s a generalisation of course, but there does seem to be more than a generations worth of ‘lost’ men. Not lost to war, as they once might’ve been, but lost and looking for someone to find them and give them a purpose… and i guess for many, Daddy Donald is that someone. Or Joe Rogan. Or Jordan Peterson. The list goes on…
So this current moment feels to me like a volatile cocktail of backlash & entitlement by the predominantly male and predominantly white. An attempt to reclaim the title of ‘default’. Default: Male. Default: white. Everyone else… ‘Other’.
Usually i see Neptune / Pisces in a delightfully charmed way, but they also represent: paranoia, victimhood, persecution complexes, martyrdom, delusion, deception, populism, masses, cults, suggestibility, deference, drift…
The outer planets will all shift signs in the next year or so – Neptune into Aries, Uranus into Gemini, Pluto into Aquarius. Saturn will meet with Neptune when in Aries. Things will be very different to what they are now – it’ll be a new era of sorts… but whether that will be a better one… hmm. It will be what we make it. But i’d expect a lash of the tail on the way out…
Thank you Mariposa, for sharing your view on conspiracy platforms and for bringing attention to the rol which Neptune in Pisces could play in that atmosphere. I have observed in my personal life how the rol which Neptune plays can easily go undetected. It’s in the nature of Neptune to escape detection. I made some major life choices in the past years while Neptune in transit was squaring my Sun. With hindsight it seems as if was partially blind during that time, I was just wrapped in Neptunian mists, unable to see clearly
Yes, many thanks for your super-insightful thoughts on this, Mariposa: it’s really interesting to think about the conspiratorial social media info ecosystem as being a Neptune in Pisces thing (and Calcifer your point that Neptune is often ultra-subtle, distorting, and unconscious is well-taken too). And I do feel like 2012 when Neptune moved in Pisces was something of a tipping point in this new business and substance model taking hold. I think the targeting and misshaping of news to different micro-communities is a big part of the election outcome. I hope Neptune in Aries in 2025/6 is indeed finally the bubble prick to these platforms, but your point that it could go the other way and get scarier is well-taken. And yes, I think this all is totally a lash of the tail of racism, misogyny, the old privileges. The new vision and new narrative hasn’t yet fully formed and people are holding on to a lurid distorted version of the old.
That when it comes to the outer shifts and more it’ll be what we make it is a well-taken point and I hope we can ride those momentums to new ways of being. Thanks for your nuanced words.
Intriguing.
I am just going to quote The Simpsons. As Kang and Kodos said, “It’s a two party preferred system. You have to vote for one of us.”
Otherwise it was refreshing to read a balanced and measured review of the charts which included a lot more detail than other astrology I have glanced of late. Old school journalism at it’s best. It doesn’t matter the writers opinions, just the facts. Well done MM. And well done for sticking your toe in the murky waters of illusion too. Kudos.
Oh! I would be remiss to say of course I enjoyed reading about all the Leo-isms too! Even though I am a fan of none of them. Life is but a charade it seems of smoke and mirrors.
Trump is claiming victory, is he jumping the gun? Or is this our new reality??
there is a lovely graphic on the nbc news site that shows the carnage
Anyone tell me where trump’s Gary & Lilith are?
Looks like women are going to ‘be looked after whether they want it or not’ accord to polls.
Here comes The Handmaiden’s Tale?
Guess it’s not over til the fat lady sings.
The Melbourne Cup was never like this 🙂
Hi-ya Pegs. Trump has Sagittarius Lilith (4th H) and has Mercury conjunct it these few days, which may account for his footloose hyperbole during his campaign’s closing speech.
As for Gary, he’s gonna take 4 yrs off on a surfing sabbatical in a galaxy far far away … 🤙 xx
Get well soon Mystic…sorry to hear you are not en forme. Blessings xxx
So engaging, naturally expressed and unlike all the astro election commentary that is swirling! Thank you !
American-on-edge here and wow, excellent breakdown.
I was thinking about Pluto in Aquarius and how Trump with his Sun conj Uranus is absolutely a archetype of Aquarius that we fear. He is chaotic, not conditioned to be civil in any real way and has fixed opinions. It just feels like he is not only ushering in the new US Pluto era but also the Pluto in Aqua era.
It certainly is baffling to think that half the US is on his side still. Like the whole groups thinks this one way and us on the other side feel like we can’t align with the group anymore. Outsider syndrome on a national level. Yikes
I don’t have a pony in the race either, but here I am at the Races, having been stranded here for an extra month or so in soft Blue State of Oregon. My politics has really changed this past year – I now get my News by reading Insta posts from Marxists roasting Capitalism and Liberals. Whoever wins, it is very clear that a lot of people are now struggling in the US and the West, while our Governments have revealed just how much they have been bought. Anthony Albanese OMG! In the US, I have kept very quiet though in this lead up. It’s all very uneasy and anxious, although strangely normal too.
On the topic of the US, but something great that has come out of this country, RIP to the sweet and devilish Pisces Grandpa, Uncle etc that we all need – the astrology loving Quincy Jones. His chart was dominated by Pisces and Virgo. His doco practically begins by establishing what a party animal he is/was, and next thing he is in a diabetic coma for a few days due to living too much of the good life. That was in 2014. His music from various eras has jumped out, but what a larger than life and endearing character too. He could basically say that U2 is crap, and Bono would still insist he stayed at his castle in Ireland. And he was the Zietgeist for many years too.
Quincy Jones whatta person..how gifted… what contributions…..and such a long life! he was so respected. He will be directing the heavenly choir adding some funk to the harps 🙂
Have always loved Quincy’s music, ever since I was in my teens in the 80’s. Thank you for your in memoriam, Striped Hoarse 🐠
Trump’s Eastern/ Bazi/ 5 element chart is Very different than Harris’s chart. Wildly so. I find it fascinating their Westerns have such similarities.
He is strong Earth in the East and she is Water…
By the #s with his chart- Id give it to him- and to clarify- I am no fan of his… the Dragon year would benefit his chart- but we shall see!
Thank you!
Amazing analysis!
Absolutely fascinating and much appreciated – thanks MM!
I know you said you wouldn’t and couldn’t but I was hoping you’d spill the beans anyway.
If we were having a cup of tea together, I would not stop nagging you … but who??? Who?
I find both of them very engaging, TV wise. But I would hate to be living there.
I did once, when I was a little girl. My Leo Dad had a year long sabbatical in San Francisco and as a straighty-180 family from Sydney, it was the happiest year of our lives. It was soooo fun, so liberating! It was also 1969. Funny.
See? I cleverly avoided giving a prediction too.
An Aussie here that is glued to PBS/ABC visual & NYTimes & Atlantic written news of election as think Trump is spawn of satan. USA population of around 350 million people & Trump & Harris are the best they can come up with as choices for President? L’esprit boggles. Don’t think Americans are seeing what i am from a distance as to what is being fermented & the manipulations involved in his speeches.
Trump has been promoting civil war…his language very dark & combative, am fearing for the next 4 weeks of chaos over there.
How dare he have a Saggi moon!!
The Libran & Gemini archetypes explain much about their style.
Last night remembering Myst saying that she veers away from politics when wanting her take on this & voila this morn here it is. Many thanks
Citizen of the USA here, always disliked calling myself an American, because that’s so narcissistic, just like our country.
I truly despise him too and I do think he is evil, and yet you’re right- this feels like the illusion of choice. The DNC has been manipulative so much, that if he wins, it will be what this country deserves.
USA is a country built on slavery and stolen land…
No wonder that we are where we are. It’s collective karma, if you ask me.
Have an Afro-American from LA via Louisiana bestie living here & she says same about the karma. Am glued to PBS as fan of Jonathon Capeheart & Washington Posts journalists calling as it goes. Yup knife edge…think i’ll have a drink. Too many are saying we are in for financial chaos & soaring prices if he wins & as someone says Vance is next in line.
Between a rock & hard place or should i say devil & deep blue. Stay true Saggi.
I reject the notion that we, as a nation, deserve Trump. My 10 yr old grandson w gender dysphoria certainly doesn’t deserve Trump. My wife and I don’t deserve Trump. The women who can’t access abortions don’t deserve Trump. If you BELIEVE YOU deserve Trump then so be it, but leave the rest of us out of it. And I say that as an American (person from the USA, commonly referred to as “American”) who is deeply ashamed of our nation’s history up to and including the present day. I still wouldn’t wish Trump et al on my worst enemy (who is, of course, Trump & Co)
Thank you, as always, for providing such an interesting overview of the current astrology around a big event. It’s certainly a tight race, and the world is closely watching. I personally found the insights to be a fascinating layer alongside the unfolding events.
Very brave of you to dip your toe in these murky waters Mystic and kudos for keeping it light. I thought the pearl clutching over Wikipedia was ancient history. It’s as good a place as any to start when looking for dates and sources that you then further investigate, the references are great for leads. There is some subject matter that is ‘policed’ in the manner of peer review there and I think the Astrology area may be one of them. I have a vague memory that the hellenistic astrologers may have kicked up a stink about the psychological astrologers posting in that section and it was ephemeris’ at dawn. It was years ago, so I don’t remember the blow-by-blow, but it’s not as disreputable as some may think. Far more interesting than that sideshow though, have you ever done a drill down on the founders of wikipedia? The two founders are in that gen x era where jupiter pluto and uranus were conjunct in virgo and their goal with wikipedia was that all subject matter would lead back to ‘philosophy’ which I think really speaks to that conjunction. That would be an interesting post.
oh and my bff is american and left voting but like some here also loathes Harris. I was surprised and when we talked about it we realised that there is a vast difference in the news that the outside gets. I had access to ‘news’ she had never seen about Harris and even though the anti Harris comments here may have non-americans scratching their heads, the criticisms are well founded. My friend said she had done nothing and had been riding Biden’s train for years, which I think is backed up by Mystic’s analysis of her astro.
She still would have been better that DJT.
No one will ever know will they Susan? I suspect the americans holding spiralling credit card debt will disagree if the sanders + trump credit/interest rate collab happens. Hubris did the democrats zero favours.
Viewing from afar here in Australia it is hard to ‘know’ all the factors at play, MM’s post give one more insight and the comments here are fascinating. Personally I was concerned to observe KH’s attitude to older males, she appears to demure to them and that worries me. Is it a lack of confidence that lies beneath her outer feisty image. The one thing MM said re the concerns about Waltz was also something I had thought when she chose him and watching them together made me even more uncomfortable as I observed he brings out this tendency to demure, not what one would wish to see in a female leader, as it makes one wonder who is really in charge and if she lacks a certain necessary confidence. Admittedly my observations are purely from a psychological point of view of personality and body language. However, such observations can be telling and would be best noted and not dismissed. The world is changing and to my mind is in a state of deep unrest many power structures will go and the future is yet to be formed – these events now are all part of this change and we are in the front row as we watch them unfurl. Whether we like it or not it has to happen as it is the nature of all things to evolve and grow.
Reading MM’s article and all the comments has been of great interest to me and has given me insights into another dimension of the American condition and for that I thank you.
Curious, did you watch her debate Trump? She was ruthless and brilliant. She took him down. Not “demure.” But she also played by the rules and was polite and didn’t act disrespectfully in the way he does to virtually every woman. And as the elected AG for California you know she had to be fiercely aggressive when necessary. I mean, she is a Libra – able to be diplomatic, but that doesn’t make her weak. I just don’t see demure at all.
She did win that debate, kicked his azz!
He is too old and growing more and more demented, imo.
I loved this bit, talking of ‘demented’:
Trump’s Mercury is in Cancer and square Neptune in Libra: It’s tangible in his sometimes sing-song tone, sudden swerves into unrelated monologues and on/off relationship with the truth.
Walz is like asteroid Gary, very dad core / salt of the earth. I live in Minnesota where he is governor. He’s pretty solid policy wise, wish he’d denounce Palestinian genocide though. I like our Lieutenant Gov Peggy Flanagan (highest office holder as an indigenous person) and House rep Ilhan Omar.
Thank you Mystic! So well researched, this piece. Also love the light, amused tone of voice, even though the elections clearly are a very serious matter. Will reread after the election results come in for sure! 🗽
Such an interesting post, Mystic, thank you for this incredible deep dive! When I think about what it would take to run for president in this country in these times, I guess it’s not entirely surprising that Harris and Trump share astrological characteristics, expressed vastly differently. Interesting insights, all the way down. I’m cautiously optimistic for Harris but who knows, with the three-time Mars/Pluto opposition, how this all unfolds. In the Sibley chart, the USA ascendant is conjunct my Saturn in Sag, so I think although I’m a dual citizen I do connect with and care deeply about what happens next for America – that beautiful, audacious idea that we have yet to realize.
Today, Uranus is at 24 degrees Taurus, conjunct Harris’ Jupiter at 24 degrees Taurus. Does that have any bearing on this discussion?
I would imagine so! I always associate Jupiter / Uranus with Magician energy, as in Tarot. Thanks for pointing this out!
This gives me hope, ty.
Thanks for this, MM. I live in the area devastated by Helene in September, in a place that is heavily liberal and art-forward. In addition to the mess we have from the storm (the impact of which I don’t think you can fully grok unless you’re on the ground here), we’ve been living in a lovely post-disaster glow of mutual aid and community care (see Rebecca Solnit’s wonderful book on this phenom, A Paradise Built in Hell).
And now, all over the world media, the anxiety, fear, and threat of this election is looming large. We don’t have drinkable water yet (and won’t for at least a couple of months more), many people have trees on/in their homes, many of our beloved walking trails are blocked, tourism has been halted during the busiest time of the year for local businesses, and now this vibe. It’s exhausting. We are not a community that chooses fear over love, and yet.
I was at a community care meeting last night at our lovely anarchist bookstore (Firestorm.coop, you can order from them for a little support!) and was challenged to try to re-write the common Zombie Apocalypse narrative we’ve been told so many times. What IF instead of fearing the never-ending zombie slow-roll fear, what IF the huge upheaval of all of this instead yields a gift? What IF, instead of cowering in fear, locked in the basement with the cat, if this election goes awry and you have a tree in your bathroom, what IF we all come together and support the parts of the community we cherish?
Building something good out of the rubble, and I mean everywhere, not just in our ancient mountains, where the third oldest river on Earth, older than Saturn’s rings, just subsumed a big chunk of our city, will take more energy and will than any one person has. That means we must seek community, not division. Even if we end up with a dictator and loose many rights, we must not stop seeking the higher prize.
bless the state of my birth♥️but dictator?
it IS certainly the Truth that americans rally best in crisis. the trick is to rally no matter what political or weather conditions. the trick is there are so many other ways to know that we are sourced from the same creator. but dictator? i voted straight republican for the first time in my 63 years then realized i no longer wanted to feed the crumbling empire energy i could use for my own life and the community i live in. the cultural tropes are old and used against us constantly. young people do not know much about the ways they’re used to turn the tide away from the economic gains built up by previous generations but i’m here to tell you trump is as much a dictator as harris is a black woman. and i AM black and female.
take back your projections ( the collective you)conserve and serve. nothing to fight for. stand in the Truth cause the empire is falling and there is no vote to cast that will save it from its own demise.
Beautifully said, CafeLatte. Have been following NC from where I live (Colorado) and I’m so sorry you have to be a canary in the coal mine, showing us all how devastating climate change can be, and how to behave with grace and strength in unimaginably hard times. Your last paragraph is very moving, thank you and please let this community know how you’re doing.
Yes! Love this, and sending true connection your way from Texas.
The read I’m getting out of MM’s take (and thank you 🙂 is almost as if the actors on this particular stage are fated to be there. We have lots of Leo energy: the boss, the sun and star, the giver of light and energy — or the conspicuous consumer of it! In my experience with rooms full of Leos, they will follow the leader but the second something happens to the leader, there’s either an heir apparent or nasty fights between people who want to take their place or contest who was supposed to go on top.
Then, MM discussed that Team Trump brought in people who were younger, more charming, rich, and political animals. They are people of color and mostly without the usual characteristics of GOP members (male WASPs with middle-upper+ class origins). I grew up and worked around many who followed the GOP and I honestly never expected to see this in my lifetime! So they took a cue from the Democrats!
To me, Trump’s picks signals a passing of the baton. His body and energy is probably telling him his time is limited, so it’s time to groom his heirs. I also notice a lack of established Republican brass on his team.
As for Kamala Harris’s ascent and whether or not it leads her into The Oval Office, I really hope it highlights the experience of women in high leadership. Females tends to have the additional hurdle of having to compromise or tone themselves down (‘taking a vow’) while also having plenty of good deeds by overlook or the credit be given to someone else.
It all signals that regardless of the election’s victor, the USA (and the world) will be having many pivots! And, what I never thought I’d see happen in my lifetime took place: we had a female contender (and of color at that) for The Oval Office and the non-usual suspects take on visible roles in American politics. I don’t think any of that is going to change.
It is a true nail-biter for sure for me and my fellow Americans! We’ll appreciate any good vibes or energy <3
P.S. My vote is the Trump Squad is a means to his ends.
I feel you Mystic! The energy of the moment is super edgy, heavy for me. I appreciate you delving into these energies as I have had some mystical phoenix, yet kind of wallowing in her ashes moments this last week. The personal feels overwritten by this erratic polar-shifty vibe around! Really interesting reminder that the two characters elevated by ptb, principalities, or..whatever wave of chance/ Nature’s changing course untrimmed, are, in many ways symbolic portals of the same energies. Avant-garde AND classic as usual MM!
Very interesting! I’m glad you mentioned Robert Kennedy Jr. And your take on Waltz being a cramp on Kamala’s style rings so true to me! Great post. Guess we’ll find out what happens soon enough……!
So interesting Mystic!
I was wondering when you’d do an astro- take on this. How bizarre that their astro is so weirdly similar! Is there any sense in which aligns more favourably with the US chart or are they on even terms there as well?
You are very brave to wander into these waters Mystic. Well done!
I’ve checked on many Astroids for 5 November and Trump’s chart saw Sisyphus opposing his Sun and Nemises conjunct
Neptune. As well as Hybris squaring midpoint of Mars/ASC one degree from Trumps ASC 29 Leo 49.
tPluto is still inconjunct Stars Regulus and Apollo which conjunct Trump’s ASC.
I haven’t worked much with Astroids so interested to know the outcome of this strange Election in USA
Love this astro analysis!
IMHO everyone has “a pony in this race”, no matter which area of the world in which one resides. The results of this very important election will have a ripple affect worldwide.
I agree but also vital to acknowledge that if you’re not literally living this in USA right now, the experience is different and “no pony in race” means simply that we can’t bet/vote….
Mystic, I voted, but did not truly feel like I had a choice. Thank you for the detached astrological analysis. <3
Charts are entangled. I hope it works out for the best and highest good of the US and also the rest of us. ☮️
Amen
🙏
🌄🙏, but still biting nails…
🙀 Someone wrote that the world gets what it deserves… All the promises he made cannot be fulfilled, and some horrible ones will be.
Someone wrote about him manifesting the sides of Aquarius that we all fear, ushering in the most negativ manifestations of this sign.
So the outcome is even more critical to the future direction of the USA and the world than I thought. I remeber talking to a LA cab driver well before Trump was voted in last time and he said that Trump could s$@t on his front lawn and he’d still vote for Trump. Part of me can’t believe that it could happen again but it sure can 😞
What is it with cab and Uber drivers?! Every one of them I speak to loves Trump 🙄
They are responsible independent entrepreneurs, not mooches.
Oh, by mooches, surely you are referring to all the billionaires accepting corporate welfare from our government?
So similar and yet one is a former prosecutor, the other a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.
I mean astrologically as in the points that I cited, which is what I found odd.
Agreed – very odd how they have such similarities in astro yet the outer habits, beliefs and values show up so different
That issue doesn’t have the same impact for me that it did now that Clinton (accused of rape, multiple sexual harassment cases, and passenger on Epstein’s plane) was out campaigning for Kamala. Plus her alleged involvement with Diddy and parade of known Diddy party attendee celebs all of a sudden endorsing her. And I have never voted Repub before. I honestly think I am voting for Trump today because I like what Musk and Kennedy bring.
Same! He is surrounding himself with good people who support peace, prosperity, freedom, health, and a dismantling of the kind of corruption that allows “civil service” employees to leave office with tens of millions of dollars. I’m so over it! It’s a trip how everyone calls Trump a dictator. He’s already been prez. I was waiting for all the horrible shit to happen that everyone was wigging out about and damn if his presidency wasn’t that bad. It was the Biden admin and CA liberal policies during Covid that bullied me and my family into getting vaccinated (my body my choice?) via the threat of losing our jobs. It is liberals in my neighborhood who wished death on my husband and I for walking without a mask (from 20 feet away!). It’s such a trip to me how hateful and intolerant the left has become!!! I was a registered Dem and a liberal my whole life. I voted for Hillary in 2016!!! I had TDS and despised Trump. But last four years have been such an unmitigated disaster I long to go back to the way things were from 2016-2020!!! So with all Trump’s flaws I voting for him. And anyone who tries to shame and bully me for my choice can go F themselves.
I am from California and have had a similar journey with all of this. I don’t know if you saw my response below…. I’m from the SF Bay Area and have seen Kamala’s policies from SF to the State legislature, to her present role as VP. I’m pretty sure I even voted for her along the way, though I wouldn’t now. She is responsible for Prop 47, which for all practical purposes legalized many crimes in California, and it has been a total nightmare. I read the proposition to reinstate prosecution of these types of crimes passed tonight, which shows that people were fed up with the effects of Prop 47.
I also can’t trust voting for any Dems after what happened during the pandemic, and I was a lifelong democrat from an all democrat family. I am a health care provider and never thought the covid policies were right. I never got the vaccine, and I never got covid either. I don’t know that people in other places, other states, other countries, know what has happened to California over the past couple decades, but what has happened here can be indicative of what will happen elsewhere if we don’t course correct. I’m 57, so I’ve seen the decline of our wonderful state over all this time….. anyway, I’m typing this after watching election results all night and it looks like Trump has won. I think he has much MUCH better people around him this time and I think it will be a different presidency. I was a supporter of RFK Jr., and voted for him in the California primary and registered for his We the People Party. I’ve never been a big fan of Trump, but I don’t have TDS either. I do think the people around him now will temper him.
Same Robin – on all counts. All my friends and family can talk about is abortion. But Dems have held office for 12 of the last 16 years since 2008 when Obama had the house and senate as well. Nothing was changed about abortion. However, more women have access now by putting the issue to a state vote than ever before. Even in deeply conservative states like Kansas.
Thank you. Pray for us!
Thank you for that analysis. Just a research tip: Wikipedia is not written by experts and is unreliable so should never be used for research on anything important. You can’t use it at university or TAFE for assignments. And if you think the content is wrong, it’s impossible to get it changed unless the author agrees.
Wikipedia relies on sourcing. Like with any other piece of information available online, you’d hope the reader is discerning enough to check sources and fact check! I believe Wikipedia is a good starting point for research into any topic tbh, but especially into celebrities/people lol.
I am no fan of Wikipedia, but your post was super patronising. The main thing with Wikipedia is to personally look at the cited sources rather than their Wiki iteration.
Thank you! My intention was to find out what KH was for a certain date, ie: her Saturn Return.
I am a Latina American living in the USA, and I can absolutely state that Kamala Harris would hurt this country. She has absolutely no substance on her policies and what she has shown us in the last 4 years. Her and Biden have hurt this country. This is not the America it was once. To take her accomplishments from Wikipedia is a joke, no disrespect. If anything is to be writtten about her, please look deeper into her history and lack of accountability and accomplishments.
I know that nerves may be frayed because Mars/Pluto are agitating everyone, and may even affect people’s cognitive functions, but have you actually read or understood Mystic’s reason for using wikipedia? She states that it is to source DATES (not policies) – you know, those dates that one needs to draw up ASTROLOGY charts. And seeing that this is an ASTROLOGY blog, not a political forum, no one here really gives a rat’s arse about what you (or anyone) thinks about these politicians/chancers/whatever – no disrespect.
Agreed, Luna. As a 57 year old Bay Area Californian, and a fourth generation Democrat, who no longer votes Democrat (but neither Republican, either), I’ll say people have not looked into Harris’ track record in California politics at all. If people are interested, listen to an interview with Chris Moritz on Tucker Carlson’s podcast. Moritz is a native Californian and attorney with a JD, and has written a book about what has happened to California due to the horrible policies implemented here over the past 10-20 years. Harris allowed Prop 47 to happen here and I’ll tell you, I lived in SF at the time it passed and you could see with your own eyes the property crime level go up overnight. Statistically it did actually go up by something like 75% in a matter of months after 47 passed. How is this good legislation?! People have their idealism about how these things should go, but we saw and still see how it’s playing out in real life on the ground. Prop 47 isn’t her only dangerous decision made for California either. Listen to the podcast I cited, or research it for yourself.
….and I didn’t vote for Trump, either. My values align with RFK Jr.’s platform and I was disheartened when he had to end his campaign. I was also a bit disappointed that he joined the Trump campaign, but I get the strategy. RFK Jr.’s name is still on the ballot in California and in several other states, though.
US citizen here, and as much as I am not a Kamala fan, Donald Trump has been so harmful to this country.
He spews lies and hatred every time he opens his mouth. My mind is blown that so many people do not pick up on his absolutely nasty history and energy.
I must agree. Evolutionary, we are better then what he brings to the table. Have yet to comprehend how he’s won brownie points for the art of bad business and getting one over on others.
I am actually aware of that, thank you. It did, however, link me to this source which I believe is correct.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/media-advisory-kamala-harris-travel-bowie-maryland
I’m unable to post a direct link to this piece, owing to sensible rules set by MM and her site admins … however I recommend search for and read “The Conversation dot Com” : ‘ Students are told not to use Wikipedia for research. But it’s a trustworthy source’
You can post comments with links but they don’t appear immediately as they’re moderated – I should post an FAQ re that. But I am also not sure why you think I use Wikipedia for research. It’s a good starting point for dates.
Damn…..i donate to them trusting their expertise 🙂
I’ve just completed a PhD and plenty of university students and staff use Wikipedia regularly. Like all sources, it must be scrutinised and evaluated.
Wikipedia is not like it originally was, in the early days it was (refreshingly) open to all viewpoints – now it is a controlled propaganda vehicle