Who Are The Neptunians?

Who are the Neptunians? They get their name from Neptune in astrology. It is the shamanic planet of dreams, utopias, myths, ghosts, art, perfume, vampires past-life love affairs, addictions, and yearnings.

A Neptunian is a person with prominent 12th House, Pisces or Neptune influences at birth.  (Neptune rules Pisces, and the 12th House is akin to Pisces).  More than any other astral influence, Neptune slithers swiftly between high (haute) and low vibe versions.

Once I joked that the astrological Neptune is not so much a planetary influence as it is a drug. Neptune, whether by its strong placement at birth or via activation by transit, is a strong guiding vision – spiritual, artistic – that can be all-consuming. The Neptunian soul quest can leave them more prone to misuse of Neptunian substances.

Such as? Dream Weed, Space Dust, Blue Devil Hoochie Juice, Opiates.  For every shamanic vision quest facilitated by entheogenic plants, there is a hollowed out person seeking only to get out of it.

Some Neptunians use seduction and romance as a drug, hooked on the initial high of someone being beguiled by them, blurring boundaries and not bothering with the tiresome shackles of reality.  Whether they deploy them for good or to get their needs met in the moment, Neptunians have immense reservoirs of charm.

Standard Morality Is Not Necessarily A Dominant Trait

They transmit multiple simulacra to activate the desired response in the other person. It feeds their consciousness and compassion – the other person is happy, right?   Of course, it is a performance, and at some point, the lights have to come back on.

Standard morality is not necessarily a dominant trait. But their keenly refined aesthetic senses, musical appreciation, adoration of the arts in general and – usually – creative talents draw them into realms where make-believe is not just an asset but a prized core competency. Film, Acting, and Beauty are all Neptunian professions.

But Neptunians who give their all to a facade or sustaining a projection, they lose their spiritual connection. The magic that generates their lucrative charisma then dissipates. They need to cherish their connection with unseen energies, Quintessence, animals, and spirit. Quality solitude is a must.

Neptunians Are Never Really Alone

But when you’re a Neptunian, you’re never really alone. Their awareness of different dimensions is exquisite, their inner life automatically enriched. “Psychic” is a word often misapplied, but Neptune in astrology often manifests as a pure psychic genius.

That is as opposed to the rapid genius processing of Uranian types or the insanely strong instincts of Pluto people. They are the most likely to see visions, ghosts, angels, or to have actual premonitions.

Sometimes the ideals of Neptunians can be so high and their dislike of plebeian relationships so intense that they subconsciously decide to have purely imaginary but not officially existent romances. They don’t want to risk the inevitable disenchantment. More sensitive than they ever let on, they could even still be melancholy re that first shard of disillusionment, eons ago. Their empathy and compassion are real – it’s just that they will redirect it without notice.

Occupational Risk Factor: Hooking Up With Hot Vampires

One thing that brings out the best in Neptunians (apart from not sliding down the Lower Neptunian rabbit hole of addiction or hooking up with vampires because they’re hot) is a dedication to spirit, a cause or creativity.

With a genuine spiritual or artistic high, the lure of transcendence via substances or unreal romance no longer twinkles. Neptune in astrology is such high magic that it attracts low entities who want to divert it for murky purposes. Whether they know it consciously or not, Neptunians feel this.


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Sub rosa

This really does explain so much. Thank you.


Oophta 12 house heavy (Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter & moon) but Neptune in 2nd house. This was a really nice to read. Comforting even.
Very, Very accurate.

Emine Ersoy

Wow this is actually the most encapsulating thing I have read and didn’t know that these qualities could be attributed to Neptune. I’m a cap rising with Neptune-Uranus conjunction in the first house and my ruling planet is Saturn in Pisces lol … I have such a hard time explaining myself to people because I feel like I exist on a different planet and I have to constantly translate myself and fail (my moon is in gemini squaring my Saturn in Pisces lol) thank you for this article!


Pisces asc conj sun in 12th. Neptune squaring them.Mars and Mercury in 12th acqua. Beat that. You can always trascend this shit, i’m 45 and still struggling though. You described me to a T.

Grayson E Soldahl

Everything you said feels like you know me. You sir or madam, are at a professional level in my book. May ye find your truest star.




Exploring into my over crowded 12th house (sparked by my Astral DNA report!!) featuring Moon in Libra, Mercury & Venus + Sun trine Neptune & Moon square Neptune, plus I realized only today that both my parents have the Pieces sign in their rising or sun sign! Oh & Neptune in my III house too, basically Neptune everywhere lol. I definitely see how a lack of understanding into the Neptunian energy can illicit the desire to fill your life with substances NOT substance. No one gave me a manual on this lol.. the mysterious and dark world is too easily abused rather than harnessed for growth. Any insights on balancing this hefty world would be so very appreciated!

Sven Selle

More please. I’m doing a deep dive into my Neptunian soul. I would appreciate further information if you would do us the honor?


Wow, absolutely amazing portrayal of a heavy Neptune influence (from a Neptune in the First commentator).


Neptunian to the core. This is my bio. Even the not-so-good-bits xxx Thanks mystic


Ugh me


I have a saying as an astrologer as I am ruled by the three outer planets as an Aquarian Sun, Pisces Moon and Scorpio Rising… Pluto may rule hell, but Neptune is hell. Neptune / Poseidon were originally creek and stream gods who got promoted as the sun cults were being built and the Ocean Goddesses had to be demoted to nymphs. Neptune was discovered (Apr 11 2009) and its south node was conjunct Pluto, and Neptune was conjunct Saturn Those born on that day have Saturn in the 12th as a karmic debt. eldermountaindreaming dot com

Dan O'Leary

As a PLutonian, they are thick as thieves and are usually self-absorbed. I see through most of them. Frauds.


A person is a fraud for being a Neptunian? Not sure I follow this logic.


“Most of them” that you only know in a limited sphere.

“See through” and not “see into”. You have not experienced the Neptunian vibration within yourself on a purer plane, only through (probs) drugs, glamour, hi-art-hi-fashion beauty in your surrounds. Or you would see ‘through’ appearance as an art form of expression, and see the layers with, uh, compassion.

Frauds are. They just are, and the worst ones haven’t ever seen themselves from other than an echo-chamber-mirror, only stay grounded in confident factoids, their own decided subjectivity faking as objective standards for “the masses”, or rather the few people they meet in their small world.

But nice Lo-Pluto for the PIABs to note. And nice rejection to help proper Neptunians keep out.




Hating on people because they can’t possibly be valid if they’re not scowling and doubting all the time? It’s ok if you think you can see through us. I see through flowers all the time. All their stink and pomp, playing at being different from each other, unique, just to get laid. Everyone loves them and is all bla-bla-bla so pretty but we know those petalled fraudsters are only out for one thing.

Careful that you are not overtaken by sifting through the wreckage of life for the truth as a kind of Sisyphean trajectory, except towards the centre of the earth, and back again. You roll the rocks, and they melt.


The plutonic soul is an important one, venality is a tiresome human motivation and it probably stings you to see it everywhere, but there’s more to life. The ocean covers shipwrecks and bombs, coral reefs and whale clans, if doesn’t mean they’re not there, but there’s more to life. Come for a swim 🙂

Dan Hamilton

This is interesting stuff. I’m not sure if I am a Neptunian or not, I but I do have some prominence there and I “feel” a lot of what is said here not not quite to the extreme. I suppose I may have some balancing factors…

Very good article, heartfelt.


Neptune sits exactly on my AC in birth chart this explains a lot! (Premonition dreams/visions/etc..) but I think my Sun in Cap/Taurean Moon help to ground. Its taken years, but I’ve learnt so much through astrology and especially with your help..cheers Mystic.


Never considered myself Neptunian because of my abundant Merc/Pluto, but now that I’m having a second look after reading this and the comments…
Neptune trine midheaven
Sun opposite Neptune
Moon Square Neptune
plus Uranus in 12th house (and Pluto if you count whole sign/equal houses) and an assortment of asteroid weirdies, including Whiterabbit, Melancholia, Conscience, Machiavelli, Mentor, Skywalker, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Urania, Sunshine, Talent, Panacea… (oh, have I mentioned I’m a little obsessed with asteroids?)
It would explain a lot of my mental processes/inner life strangeness and general distractedness. Also dreams involving water, all the time?


Moon-Vesta conj Neptune in my 7th Sag – Neptunian?

Just spent the last 8 days at a silent Ignatian retreat – luminous days full of quiet consolation and very troubled nights of nightmares and insomnia – a practice of endurance and waiting! What is this vibe, Mystic??


I feel like this relates to me but my Neptune is pretty boring. Neptune in Sag in 6th. Trine Saturn in third and opposite Jupiter in 12. Sun sign Pisces


Check to see if you have Neptune stationary (within about 5 days before or after Neptune goes retrograde or direct). Stationary planets are extremely strong in a chart, often times eclipsing everything else, even the Sun sign!


Neptune in Sagittarius and Sun in Pisces indicates a Neptunian Mutual Reception Power Alien


Mars and Venus in Pisces- I always wondered what this might mean…all makes sense now…


Sun in the 12th house, Pisces Moon 1st house, Neptune in the 10th house sextile Sun & making a kite of my air trine. According to astro,com it’s my strongest planet, second strongest: Pluto. Fortunately no life derailing addictions but I used attract a lot of addicts. Very much relate to the connection with animals, spirit, nature, etc. Did some heavy time romanticizing hot vampires (very disenchanting). Love music and art, not so much a performer (12th house sun) but very much a ‘life is art’ type -clothing, home, etc must be curated. Have visions but they’re pretty ordinary so far…


I have Venus in Pisces. As always Mystic, this is absolutely bang on. Blessed be. Xx


i’ve never really thought of myself as neptunian, but this is making me take another look at it.

i have a tiny 12th, smack dab in the middle of saggo. nothing in there. nothing in pisces.

neptune (just typed out “naptime”) is part of my first house uranus-nep-saturn stellium and in a grand earth trine with merc and mars.

maybe i am confusing it with my boatloads of plutonic energy, and leo energy too, but i can totally relate to the haute-lo cycle of being obsessive/addicted to imaginary relationships, dreamweed. and being always in performance mode.

have never seen a ghost/spirit/etc; always wanted to.


Check to see if you have Neptune stationary (within about 5 days before or after Neptune goes retrograde or direct). Stationary planets are extremely strong in a chart, often times eclipsing everything else, even the Sun sign!

Aries gal

Yeah I would have to agreee with this post.

So I honestly think everyone adores me or is interested in me.

I have PIsces rising, Venus in Pisces and Mars and Venus in 12th house

I’m very charming and smiley interested in people (genuinely) and people are often totally warped and chatty happy with me

I’m not being insanely up myself or anything im being honest

I do think everyone has a thing for me or is jealous ? People are always looking at me. I am typical pisces rising. Goo goo eyes, innocent air about them, fishy looking small and petite

its weird but after reading this i get it

Im very spiritual i speak to angels and am totally in tuned with law of attraction

When Neptune went into pisces I BECAME me to the realest degree.


Venus in the 12th house opposite Neptune; Mid-heaven in Pisces; Moon square Neptune…. I definitely relate to the love zombie issue especially in the fantasy sense. My fantasy love-life can go way too far sometimes (and can be about vampire types), to where it can start taking from my real relationship. I have a really hard time letting a fantasy be casual or a passing thing. When I decided to end my marriage (it was pretty co-dependent so we were both vampirish in some ways), I had a dream that my husband wanted to stay down in the basement with the fish tanks and I kept running up the stairs and running back down, trying to bring messages back to him from above. Finally a tornado came and I knew I had to leave and give up. And I do loooove dream weed so I have to be real careful with it, and I’m constantly reading up on the spiritual and health benefits of psychedelics. I’m really into plants in general and have studied herbalism for several years. I am grateful to say that for the most part I don’t actually see ghosts or spirits, cause that would freak me the fuq out, but I do sense them in other ways or sometimes see them outta the corner of my eye, which isn’t too traumatic. I also have this thing about being able to look at my feet and see them as what they look like in another dimension (I’m not sure how else to describe this because it’s fairly new). And I’m beginning to realize I can read a lot from people by looking at their feet…either health-wise or sexually… Pluto is strong it my chart so that’s part of this too, I think.. Anyway this is fascinating, I really love learning about the influences of the outer planets.


the thing about feets in dimensions is interesting!! i also kind of suss out a person via observations of their feet


I had the unfortunate experience of knowing a low Neptunian/Plutoian creep.
He didn’t drink nor drug and was self righteous about it, thought of himself as a real vampire and spiritual guru. Turns out he is a severe sex addict and was seducing minors with his promises of higher spiritual knowledge and father mentoring. He sought out runaway teens boys & girls that were sexually abused. He was conscious about picking his victims.
Beyond disturbing. I reported him but each time he magically would evade jail.
My experiences with low Neptuians have been frightening. High Neptuians a whole other story.
Less here be careful whom you trust because addicts can hide their addictions very well for years.




Dreadful. Sometimes karma takes too long!


My natal Neptune is conjunct my Scorp ascendant (Leo Sun). ‘Nuff said. 🙁 Pisces/Neptune ‘runs’ in the family, though. My paternal grandmother had Neptune in the 12th house conjunct her Leo asc., one of my sons is a Pisces Sun with Neptune on his asc, another son is a Pisces Sun with Cancer asc, and a third son is Cancer Sun with a Pisces asc.

12th house virgo

Neptunian here. Ever since Neptune moved into my 6th house, I have prophetic dreams about my pets and my work.


Hi 12hv nice to see you! *waves


Just to add my bit about Saturn conjunct Neptune transits.

Mars was involved in mine. Mars and Saturn conjunct Neptune. I dreamed of the Beloved showing up. And the dream said, This is a big deal!!

7 days later, magically appearing out of the ether was a man, full of bright light and inspiration and words. Gorgeous eyes and a history I could get with and words for the future that thrilled me. But Saturn and Mars and Neptune were all 12th house things. And this magical being was really a beautifully garbed 2×4. He was the Beloved, sent to make sure I didn’t “settle” for something I was making plans to settle for… an impetus, a driving force, an awakening. It was not pleasant, excpet for the 30 or so days it was heaven. Then it was hell and reality and moving forward with what was right for me to do. And I made it through and I’m better for it and it’s a damn good story and a portal to more stories.


Scrolled from the bottom up and saw ‘Shepherds’.
Daisy’s very handsome long haired German Shepherd frolick-mate-in the park for over 2 years called ‘Marx’, just’ didn’t wake up in the morning a few weeks ago.His owner teared up when she saw me at the library then told me, as i greeted her with ‘long time no see’.
So much sympathy for her and her partner as they adored him, Marx was a local celeb coz he was so magnificent, calm and dignified. Always bounded toward Daisy then would stop for her to admire him O so king of kool.
Am relaying this here under a Neptunian night because you (all) understand the love we have for our animals and how it saddens, i so felt for her and her partner’s sorry.
Marx bless him was considerate to the end,no illness, so sounds of discomfort or distress, simply his heart stopped beating during the night. That Marxie was a MAN in a lush fur coat.
My heart beats for him. And Daisy Dog will probably never meet such a handsome K9 again. She a PIsces.He a Scorp. Wouldancha know.
Neptunians? My natal moon is cosied up very close to Neptune, if not conjunct and i laughed at my ADD Sagginess, which is actually curiousity mostly, when i found myself doing an end of day sun salutation with breathwork and as i reached for the heavens, noticed there was an organic spliff in one hand and a Stella Artoise in the other.
My bad.

12th house virgo

Dogs are much better than people in my experience






Oops I was loll ing at the last line and some of the ADD Sag moon & Neptune (me too) type stuff you said.


my beautiful canine companion Burton was “put to sleep: about 2 weeks ago , du to the effects of osteosarcoma (bone cancer0 it was the most awful decision/day of my life..been crying daily, I miss him so much. Pegasus your description of the GSD sounds like him..people are still contacting me abut how they miss his presence . Life is just damn cruel sometimes


I’m so sorry. I remember your post, when he was diagnosed. I’m so sad for you. My beautiful old girl died a year ago. She was 15, blind, arthritic, incontinent, and let me know it was her time to go. It still took a few days for me to go through with it, even though she was clear about what she wanted. I cried every day, nearly all day, for 2 months until my husband decided I needed another dog to help me heal. My now-dog is so magical, I’m sure she’s a unicorn in another dimension. They make themselves a part of every memory. It’s so painful when thy leave. Abbi died at 9.11am and I say a blessing every time I notice the clock. I still feel her with me, but it’s not the same. Hugs to you, love. xxx


We are blessed to have has thm pass thro’ our lives


Coyote Woman, not cruel breautiful because we are expressing pure emotion of the courageous and compassionate kind.
We give them Heart, they return it amplified dont’ they?
Furs & Feathers Forever.x


Oh I get that. Yeah. Totally


Hey INvicta, howzit? Exploring, nourishing yourself, going to classes, keeping warm and cosy in the northern winter or are you thinking of going south and following the sun.
Your’e looking gooood Girl 🙂
Btw am excited by a book i discovered that may interest you: The MindBody Code.by Dr. Mario Martinez.x


I’m great:)
I mean ha ha, secretly great. Lol
How are Yoooooou?
I will look for that book.
Currently doing Alice Miller’s The Body Never Lies, Waking the Tiger Peter Levine, Harriet Learner’s The Dance of Anger and The Power of No by James Attacher & Claudia Azzulla and other nonsense about lots of weird things like Foucault and his creepy panopticon- Goffman’s Stigma and spoiled identity and reading everything I can find around Melvin Glasser’s Core Complex but yeah, it’s all a bit chewy so I dip in and out and take it ALL VERY SLOW.
There’s just a lot of staying in and keeping warm going on right now. I “should ” go out more etc but inside is so much warmer and more satisfying- not just physically but my levels of self absorbtion have reached new heights:)). I feel like it’s healthy tho. I’m enjoying weird shit like doing dishes and vacuuming, making sauerkraut and cutting my own hair, doing all that type of thing myself now. It’s empowering being and out and out total cheap skate. I find myself walking out of shops or if I’m having a wander and fancy sitting down maybe writing and having a bite (probably my favourite thing to do right now besides therapy and reading) is being alone around people. A glass of red wine and my iPad and I’m totally happy. But I’m not a big drinker and a girl’s gotta eat!
Lately though I’m fussy and it’s not just about quality or the vibe, they matter a LOT but if it’s going to cost more than a tenner for my weekly or bi weekly restaurant as office and feeling happy to have people around me, no deal.
What else?
Rocking a purple tipped Mohawk which is constantly evolving- tattoos and piercings I may not be able to avoid for much longer.
Um yeah that’s it though
What’s up with you?


You had me at purple tipped mohawk and more tattoos. Happy Saturnalia lovely xx


I’m not neptunian. I’m actually really confused about my birth time because stuff about it doesn’t make sense … but that’s getting off track.

My partner is pisces moon though … augmented by a libra asc. I think pisces and libra have a lot in common in terms of dancing off into freakin lala land whilst having a very glib view of reality and distorted concept about telling the truth! Irks my sagg moon no end.


Oh and my daughter is a sun/asc pisces … she just basically doesn’t bother speaking unless it’s absolutely necessary.


Omg Sag moon here and people who bend the truth to make themselves look better irritate the fuq out of me. It’s like in that moment they get the power but it has no substance (ok now that’s my Scorpy talking).


It’s been a fucking hard thing to get used to. In fact, I haven’t got used to it. We’ve had wars over it. I mean full on screaming matches, throwing shit. Well I am Greek. ~shrugs~

He can’t win really. I’m a Cancer Sun/Venus so bullshit gets picked up on my radar whether I like it or not. Then my Saggo moon (7th house) has to poke and poke and poke … until finally he spits it out. I think he’s started to learn it’s easier just to tell the truth in the first place and deal with my reactions than lie and deal with a Cancerian on the warpath.

I think that’s one of the reasons why Scorps seem to like me. They can relax. Always know where I stand on pretty much everything.


Ahhh the truth. Don’t get me started. True story. I was riding my pet unicorn one day through a deep green glen when I met this leprechaun who imparted many secrets. When I told kataka wife she told me to get off my high horse and stop speaking to that old drunken Irishman at the local shops. When I put on my hurt face and questioned her belief in a magical world she immediately insisted on checking my credit card details and canceled my betting acct. 🙂


Many MANY LOL’s david. I even accidentally snorted a bit of cranberry and soda up my nose when I read that.

I think I like your wifey. xxx


Is admitting you’re a neptunian like the first step in one of those 12 step programs. 🙂
I have Neptune in the 5th house Scorpio and it forms many pleasant aspects to the major outer planets and my moon.
Pisces is my 9th house, so let’s just say I’m out and proud when it comes to my friendship with Neptune. Thank goddess for Neptune I say, I mean how boring would life be without it’s influence.
My favourite planet. Life on earth is a chance to experience land and sea and partake of its bounty. What can be better than your feet on the earth and your head in the clouds. Is there any more sensual feeling than running over the sand and plunging into the cool waters of the ocean.
I must admit that Saturn square Neptune was a difficult time for all of us but when I had Saturn conjuncting Neptune in my 5th some years ago I found out how well they can work together to make fantasies real and make the real fantastic.


If a woman ever said that to me I’d drop her home and block her phone no. I mean seriously ?
No loss there P.


I have Moon, Venus, Pluto in scorpio, 12th house. And Jupiter (4th) conjunct Mars(5th) in Pisces. Sun conjunct Neptune (2nd Capri house). I think I’m screwed, though i’d like to know if there’s a chance that that love story we create in our head could be real at some point. I mean, I know I can often read people’s feelings but when it comes to this person that doesn’t even call me or manifest wanting to see me out of the places we have in common, I really don’t know which logic should I use. The part of me that knows that at some point this person feels our invisible connection and potential together and sure he’ll realize it in no time (as time doesn’t exiiist) or what I see in concrete: “i’m doing my life, eveything’s ok without sharing further with you, it was OK have something once or twice but i’m occupied with my other people now” :p. I strongly believe in both and that started making me kind of crazy ?. Need the middle path.


I have Moon, Venus, Pluto in scorpio, 12th house. And Jupiter (4th) conjunct Mars(5th) in Pisces. I think I’m screwed, though i’d like to know if there’s a chance that that love story we create in our head could be real at some point. I mean, I know I can often read people’s feelings but when it comes to this person that doesn’t even call me or manifest wanting to see me out of the places we have in common, I really don’t know which logic should I use. The part of me that knows that at some point this person feels our invisible connection and potential together and sure he’ll realize it in no time (as time doesn’t exiiist) or what I see in concrete: “i’m doing my life, eveything’s ok without sharing further with you, it was OK have something once or twice but i’m occupied with my other people now” :p. I strongly believe in both and that started making me kind of crazy ?. Need the middle path.


Ha! last few days I’ve had the realisation that I’m the flame to the unavailable moths. Sick of being the “fantasy girl” – the one guys come to for a good time not a long time.

There’s a married Aries lingering who wants to go out for drinks. PFFFFFT… he’s been saying that for four years!!! He has Mars in Aqua so drops in once in a blue moon to flirt.

Going to tell him to get stuffed!!! In a nice venus in Libra way… haha. He is nice but unavailable and after the painful Saturn / Neptune delusion-busting transit early this year (had to let the multi-Saggo dude go forever) i’m DONE with casual bullshit that goes nowhere.


Telling an Aries .. no way, get stuffed, is like a massive romantic gesture. If you want him to disappear tell him you want his baby or something. Zoooom .. he’s gawn.


HAHA!! thanks for the tip david 😀

I guess my lack of interest (for moral reasons I suppose) is why he keeps coming back.

I am fond of him and flattered that he thinks i look sexy in a pair of sneakers. Appeals to my Saggo moon.

I don’t really want to burn this bridge. I’m just going to be honest and say that if he was single I’d jump at the chance. Because that’s the truth in a nutshell. I mean, he may be separated now. I have no idea.

He has a Scorp moon, venus in Toro


hahahahaha “never in a million years you jerk”

“I do like a challenge” says aries


Sun conjunct Neptune in Scorpio (tight orb 3º) in 10th house.

I’ve dabbled in neptunian substances but Cap asc and Mars in Virgo have always kept that in check. I only ever liked alcohol because it was a perfect accompaniment to cigarettes. Given up the ciggies though, and everything else. Coffee and choc are my only “vices” now.

My low Neptunian aspects manifest as love zombie-sm, thanks to my venus in Libra (9th house). Always in love with the “idea” of love. Have never managed to make it work in “reality” though. Never gone past the honeymoon phase. Never experienced the “companionship” stage of love. Fantasy so much better. Psyche in Aqua – from afar even better.

How do people manage to stay in love after years of farting on each others’ presence. Ewww. Moon in Saggo feels suffocated at the thought of co-habitating. Moon squares Uranus always leaves when the going gets tough.

Being a Plutonian Scorp with a packed 8th house – Uranus/Pluto/Mars. I have a tendency to fall in love with someone’s soul… sometimes from another lifetime. That Wuthering Heights type of connection is not for this earthly realm.

With south node in 12th house even casual encounters seem karmic. I’m so fuqing over it !!!!!! After a lifetime of empty / failed romance and still single at 52. Couldn’t be arsed anymore. I’m devoting myself to art. Fitting for 10th house.

Can’t wait for Jupiter in Scorpio transit next year. Jupiter in Libra has been fantastic for artistic endeavours. My MC is 29º Libra, so jupes will retro back and forth over that next year too. Can’t wait.


oh god, i hear you on the domestic thing. Basically if I think a guy is a contender, I imagine myself stepping over his dirty undies all over the the floor or walking into the bathroom after he’s been in there for an extended duration (I have psyche in VIRGO, btw) and if these scenarios don’t make me dry-heave, then there is a chance.


moon in cap takes the long view, lol.


I think we’re imagining worst case scenario? I’m sure there are men out there who aren’t complete slobs!

I know Virgo can get picky and get turned off by the tiniest things but surely some things are a universal turn off? Like going to someone’s house for dinner and discovering they’re a hoarder and you have to ask where you’re actually going to eat because there’s no dining table ok sight and the coffee table is hidden under a towers of old newspapers. When dinner finally arrives your host clears the coffee table and wipes up big fluffy balls of dust beneath the table with his hands. It’s enough to put you off your dinner!!! ?.

And the bathroom. Omg! It was dusty too!! The toothbrushes were so worn down they looked as if they hadn’t been changed or used in YEARS!! Gross!!!

That was the Cancer guy I dated 3 years ago. Never returned to that house *shudder*


Well you’re worse than me. LOL

I only fall in love once every decade so but when it happens it’s deep.

You have 7th house stuff going on I think. Mine’s empty


The book is better (of course.. duh! Lol). Read it when I was 13.

I had a crush on a Libran / Scorp rising guy once, who claimed that he had read the book eight times. I fell for him for that reason. Haha. He was hot though. Guys with libra planets are catnip for my Venus libra


Sag Moon conjunct Neptune is my closest aspect. 12th house NN. My escape has always been to retreat in my head due to religion and overbearing parents. I have Neptune retrograde and I read somewhere that it exposes ‘religious shams’ and the native also learns to live in two worlds simultaneously. I’ve never had a real substance abuse issue rather extreme daydreaming, being a love zombie, and eating too much (especially sweets). The past few years I have been working hard on siphoning the creative energy from the daydreaming into reality. I’m much happier when I have a creative outlet but I’m also very Saturnine (Saturn in my 10th house Leo stellium and near my MC) so I really have to work to make it happen otherwise I’ll work myself silly and the creativity stays locked up in my head and heart.


Oh yeah
Laughing out loud
12th house moon
12th house Neptune
Both on the Sag side of the 12th house and closer to my Sag rising
All that hardcore Lilith energy in the 12th too but in Scorpio so daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark but sexy.
I related to all of this so strongly.
I feel more Neptuniun than Jupiterian TBH.
Kinda Uraniun too. I love Uraniun energy but the line that jumped out the most was “Neptuniuns are never really alone.”
I can happily not leave home for weeks at a time.
I wander around sometimes and think “awe people are so lovely. I want to cry they’re so nice.”
I resolve to go wandering like that everyday.
I come home and don’t leave until I’m forced to


Yup you had me laughing those first few lines.
You COULD teach your grandma how to suck eggs.
My Venus in 12 th house. Say no more.
And thanx for reminding me to look at natal chart and the Moon now in LIbra sitting direct over my Neptune 🙂


Love this article – thank you!


Pisces sun, Aqua rising, Sag moon square Sun. Venus in Pisces. Loaded first house. Pluto/ Virgo in 7th. Relationships when they end, and they do, feel like life/death struggle. Forecasts say big love en route. Scared much?!


Can I be both Neptunian and Plutonian?

I have Pisces sun & mars, Neptune trine ascendant, Venus & Saturn trine Neptune.

(Also, does it matter who trines who? I mean, does Venus trine Neptune count, or is that considered a Venusian influence, not Neptunian?)

And I have crowded 8th house, with sun, moon, mercury & Venus there. Moon & mercury both opp Pluto, Saturn & Neptune sextile Pluto.

So, to an astrologer, would I be considered strongly Neptunian or Plutonian, or both? Or neither?


Feeling it strongly!
Thank you.


Will have to read this all again and again. Scorpio Neptune exact on asc has bedevilled me all my life. I am blessed with the gifts it brings but the pain that goes along with that is sometimes too much.


What I have noticed lately is that Neptunians need a cause, a higher cause, or else we self-destruct. It is the Hero’s Journey or nothing. Conventional morality is Death, and, infinitely worse, lacking in compassion.

Trying to be more Spiritual Warrior, less Hollow Men.
12th house Moon, Chiron, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Lilith, Jupiter. Neptune opposite Jupiter-Sun, trine Saturn, sextile Pluto, on DC. Partner is of course NR. Existing in this world is a serious challenge, every day. Sucker punches to the gut in every direction.

Of course we are never alone. I love this!!


Yeah, as long as you can’t hear the director telling you what to do 😉

12th house virgo

Yes! A higher cause and that higher cause can’t really be romance because we are never alone anyway and a mere mortal will inevitably fall short of an ideal.


Spot on! I have stationary Neptune in 12th, in a 1 degree square to Moon / MC. I also have Sun, Merc & Venus in Pisces……i have the most ridiculously Piscean CV starting with running dance parties & doing lots of drugs in my early 20s & it’s taken a long time to get to the same realization that chaos will always find me, unless i focus all my considerable energy on a higher cause….so help me Pluto & Uranus have their fingerprints all over my 10th house as well 🙂


Crowded 12th house? CHECK (sun, mercury, chiron)

Planets in Pisces? CHECK (moon, MC)

Been talking to ghosts, angels and animals my whole life but am just now starting to refine it and take it high. My whole life struggle has been just to be responsible (SATURN stuff)


yes with four planets in pisces including moon and i don’t understand the other aspects but am sure they are there. sober 14 years and definitely walk a path of strong spiritual lineages that keep me focused strong and awake … spot on Mystic xx


This is exactly correct. And very welcome, because one of the things about being a Neptunian is that I always forget that I’m a Neptunian and then wonder why crowds, busy-ness, lack of creative time, boring people, bad art has a sort of full-system food poisoning effect on me. I need some kind of poster or tattoo saying: remember it’s Neptune


Yes! X

12th house virgo

Ugh – crowds! Thank God for online shopping! I remember the years I had to actually go to the mall to get things and it made me sick.


Yes especially boring and stupid ppl. I don’t suffer fools gladly 😉


Neptune conjunct moon in the 8th house…
I am definitely a neptunian and can really indentify myself in this article.
I always had an adoration and fascination for Poseidon, the sea, the mysteries, depths, the subonscious, dreams…
I’m also fond of instant photography (not digital ones), and this is so neptunian… seeing a polaroid photo fading from black to an actual colour, like a ghost appearing… the illusion of how we look on a photo vs how we look in reality…
Fortunately, my natal sun in Capricorn helps me to keep being grounded and practical.


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Hmmm I’m thinking more ‘Pass the Dutchie’ 🙂


Neptune on Cap Ascendant, Sag Saturn-Uranus conjunction in 12th, all four square Pisces Moon. Neptune sextile Sun-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio. I wasn`t aware how much Neptunian I am for so long. Currently my work environment is full of Pisces and Geminis. My best friend is Pisces with Gemini Asc. I see a lot of similarities in Pisces coworkers, some of them have 3 planets in Pisces, including their Sun sign. What I noticed is that they are highly intuitive, they notice everything energy-wise, they seem like they are in eternal phase of melancholy, most of them have bright sad eyes, they are very compassionate and they even seem very naive. They are not easily fooled. Its a really interesting environment because they are like a mirror to me. I`m learning about myself through them.

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