Some people accuse the Mutable Signs – Gemini, Pisces, Sagittarius and Virgo – of being cruel, sociopathic and major flakes.
Virgo cops this to a lesser extent – their Earth status renders them sort of immune from accusations of the crazies.
Plus Virgos strive SO hard to pass for normcore on the outside, their eccentricity is concealed by veils of protocol.
So leaving Virgo out for the time being, the Mutable signs are renowned for their speed fade-outs.
“Never complain – never explain” – coined by the 19th Century Sagittarius power-broker Benjamin Disraeli – is also the non-official mantra of the Mutables. It’s not because they are unaccountable. Or irresponsible.
Dead Qi Dialogue Is Inefficient
They prefer to just disappear in an indigo blur because they believe in efficiency and momentum. Sticking around to talk out the obvious or to dialogue with dead qi is not efficient.
They KNOW when a scene is dead – their every mutable instinct tells them. It is a physical sensation to them – not to act on it would scramble their auric integrity.
Mutables also specialize in basic time witchery – once they vanish from your life, you will be amazed at how you will basically NOT just run into them. They’re still there. They may even live around the corner from you.
But the reason your paths never cross is that the Gemini, Sagittarius or Pisces has slipped into another dimension of time – one in which you are not there, were never there.
First clue this is happening; the blank eyes – you may think zombie, you could suspect dreamweed addiction or terminal vagueness but it’s the Mutable experiencing a time-slippage/awareness of dead qi.
Thank you for the reminder! As a Virgo Sun with Gemini Rising, mutable fadeout has served me brilliantly with all kinds of relationships: work, neighbors, toxic relatives, and yes, plenty in romantic ones! People accuse me of giving up easily or not giving them a chance, but when both pattern recognition and intuition are humming the same tune, I’ll listen to those before anyone’s empty promises!
Pisces sun and jupiter, Sag rising and moon, Gemini mars and saturn… no virgo or any earth in my chart. When something is over or dead to me I just vanish, dimension hopping is my secret talent. Like Gotye’s lyrics for Somebody I Used To Know, the girl in the song is clearly a mutable sign.
Pisces Sun, Sag Rising. It me
Saggy sun and pisces rising… Also me!
Wow. Yes.
Virgo Sun/Mercury with Gemini Rising here. This happens at work a lot and for me, it’s a waste of perfectly good energy (Mars in early Taurus trine the Sun/Merc) to spin the wheels and also a waste of irreplaceable time. Some people are turned off by this, but it’s affirming to see an astrological reason for it! As for when I get that treatment from other mutables, if they have written me off, then I can just take my energy elsewhere!
Saggy here, I totally split today for a much needed little trip (just a train ride to a farmers market about an hour away lol) it was wonderful, it felt right, I haven’t gone on a solo adventure in a while x( but I have fruit now <3 but it's definitely true as a mutable sign fleeing the scene and not trying to get caught up in some kind of energy I don't wanna mix with. I'm always on the move. and just to be a talker, I met a Cap today and he was nice, felt a bit fated but what isn't fate. I'm also enjoying the venus in scorpio vibes, really has been subtly intense, intense nonetheless, emotionally. btw the cap had moon in Scorp. he was truly (subtly) captivating as well. (i wonder what our encounter symbolizes) anyone wanna share some Venus transiting Scorp wisdom? my input would be; learn to love your depths as you dive into the pain and glory,and you'll be rewarded with beautiful love, with yourself first, then another!
I’m down with Disraeli’s ‘never complain, never explain. As a multi Pisces/Virgo, my own personal motto is ‘don’t box me in’. Don’t box me in with phone contracts; with non-flexible travel fares; with your limited ideas of who you think I am; into a corner… that kind of thing.
Yes!!!
I have said recently that when my piscean side is done, I slowly lower my head into the murky water and disappear. Often I forget the relationship ever existed. Pisces sun coupled with Aries moon and Libra rising means it may take me a while to end a relationship (whether friend or romantic). I try to see the good in everyone. Once I’m over it, however, I don’t look back and it’s full steam ahead. Thankfully, as I get older, it’s easier to spot the bs and move on quickly.
I’m a Leo with Virgo rising and although Virgos are exempt from this particular situation, I can totally relate to the Zombie eyes directed at dead scenes and people it’s my signature reaction to Qi Vampires, Fuqbois and those with dinosaur auras.
So brilliant! This was a few years ago though so maybe Saturn in Sagittarius since then has made Virgos more likely to do a Mutable Fade-out? I LOVE the term
dinosaur aura and i am going to use it – thank you!
Yes! As a virgo I think this is even more pertinent as the loyalty/good manners factor can be a hindrance to a virgos need to declutter dinasaur debris!
I am also Virgo rising, and i too am not sticking around for those things any longer. I also totally relate to those eyes. And i had a gemini flat mate for a while who was the perfect fade out professor. It was wonderful to see how quickly she assessed everything. And how easy it was for her to leave stale qi in a light and nice manner
(sag w pisces rising) 😀 so true! I manage to amaze even myself at how quickly I slip away from situations/relationships. As soon as I feel it’s not working anymore, it’s like something clicks and, not only do I disappear completely, but I also immediately move on on a mental and emotional level…sometimes I even forget about people and situations, even painful ones.
I have been accused of being cold and heartless…nothing farther from the truth, I open myself up completely to people and even too much, but as soon as I feel it ending, it’s just as if it never existed, and this is why I don’t feel the need to explain myself.
I guess the ‘never complain’ thing is what makes people so shocked by this kind of behaviour, they never see it coming…
Same placements and totally relate… There is healing in this as I’ve always been demonised for my ability to move on… Sometimes before I’ve even moved on!
So, thank you! ☺️
So on the money, and so where I am at right now, as things would have it….
Shamanic astrology sees the “mutables” as “in service of Spirit” so that puts a different slant onto it.
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Jesus this post MM, Lol!
The most loving and flattering exoneration of my decades-long Virgo guilt of extreme ‘flakiness’. Thank you.
So many other culprits too! Countless abandoned email addresses, cities, jobs (I just work for myself now, Lol!), LLCs, colleagues, friends, BFs, skype accounts and on and on.
As mentioned upstream, it’s probably 3rd + 11th house dynamics and the lovely fixed signs I seem to attract, that keep peeps caring and reaching out to me even decades on. I’m touched and grateful, I often disappear from great situations and it’s hard to explain why.
Sun-Saturn Virgo 11th
Gem Moon 9th
Neptune Sagg 3rd
Ooh, and Soledad Miranda! One of my favorite actresses in one of my favorite films of all time…..
Hello Monte. I like your comment, because it gives me a chance to explain that if one is living with mutable traits you soon learn that if you are not grounded and working it with the full Haute consciousness, you will end up a scattered and ungrounded mess – and yes, affecting other people for sure.
And for someone like me, who is an astro newbie, it was MM’s description of the mutable traits that made me really look at my chart in order to find the reason as to why what she is saying, fits me so well. Sure i don’t have any mutable planets except Pluto, So i read up about Sun and Moon being in the 9th House – and it fits to perfection.
So of course i look to astrology to explain or justify my actions. There *is* a reason I travel so much and love to learn about the world at large. I do move when the scene gets stale, i don’t hang around to be caught up in other peoples *deliberate* mistakes or bad choices through their own sheer laziness – though i would never abandon a friend in genuine trouble. I just don’t suffer fools.
It’s not always easy travelling so much – it’s difficult to feel grounded in a new place with a culture you don’t fully understand. But the beauty of this, is that you get to exercise your grounding techniques. And practice makes perfect (i still hope). Movement sharpens ones wits as well, so you are less likely to fuq up as much, because you are actually exercising all the senses a lot more than if you were living your life on auto-pilot in the same place all the time.
As for the lack of taking responsibility, that might be true for couch mutables who stray or bolt every now and then to pay heed to some inner urge they don’t fully understand. If you play the haute mutable – you actually DEPEND on your sense of responsibility, because on the road there is no one to help you – it is all up to one’s self.
You get to learn a lot about human nature the more you meet different people and you soon develop amazing “spot the BS” radar.
One thing is for sure – most people all over the planet want to get on, but the psychos that are running the show, want us to think otherwise. And yes, i could have come to that conclusion by staying put and watching documentaries – but this way i know it’s my truth, my conclusion and I will take action based on my experience and knowledge.
It has indeed been lovely chatting…a mutably agreeable conversation 🙂
PS. I think that you are a lot less fixed than what you think. ;-).
This.
I am labeled Gypsy….and “flaky” — (entirely not flaky as I am fixed all around w/ sun/Saturn in tenth house-salt of the earth gypsy, more like it)
On the road you MUST perfect grounding techniques. as my Pirelli tires kiss the tar and hug the earth every sense is electrified-all antennae -all possibilities for providence…. and trust us-if do a disappearing act on you it was calculated extensively before the turn of the heel…. We feel it. It’s dead here. That smell. What is that smell? I smell the beginning if the end, most folks WILL argue, talk you out of the mission, sway-qi vamp, guilt trip or worse……tears. I. CAN NOT With the tear. Just stop. So… What’s efficient? Taking off in the night. Sneaking out of town under cover of darkness-
The End is Near.
and it will be my Phoenix stunt.
:fade out:
Imagine Buddha explaining befor he left the palace that he must go meditate nowhere and everywhere and abscond himself from this throne? Utter Pandemonium….no no no… just slip out the back quietly.
Typos!
The Beginning Of*** The End.
Islandgirl’s mentions were so fab. I so resonated.
My Venus is in Cancer but its in the 9th house so yeah, clear for takeoff! I travel with a blanket and pillow. Yup.
But hey at least you want to try it out. My progressed Sun is in Taurus now and prog asc into Leo, it’s about as close to fixed as I am going to get and it makes a nice change, or at lelast I imagine it does 🙂
I was going to concede most of your points until you got all weird and catty about the ‘fantasy’ of mutables. Of course it reflects our traits and justifies our actions. what the he’ll else is astrology for? Jeez dude
Well, I’ve read and re-read what MM wrote, and nowhere did I read that mutable air signs are less prone to qi stagnation. What she says is this:
“Sticking around to talk out the obvious or to dialogue with dead qi is not efficient.”
Not the same.
Off topic is kinda the norm, guilty as charged yr honour
I can see how this trait is perceived and God knows i have done it. Islandgirl was right sometimes a particular kind of evasiveness is low mutable. At the same time being mega mutable does mean self aware ness helps just like being ultra fixed might mean someone could benefit from abandoning consequence once in a while. Or something.But responsibility has its limits . I read somewhere that the cosmic role of mutables is that of dissolution, reconfiguring, searching for new, dis- and re-combobulating. So they function comfortably in states of uncertainty, that’s the mutable terrain. Same way the fixed signs are those who sustain, uphold, maintain, continue and the cardinals, well they kick it all off I guess.
Acupuncture that reminds me to get some.
Hey does that facial acupuncture work? I look tired and want to help myself work on better sleep but also try to undo 24 months of v bad sleep habits…
Pi x
Amazing’s what it is! good passion, monte.
Hmm yes age relatedinsecurity here lol.
I sleep fantastically well, like a log, it’s just the hours I am keeping really
‘I and I’ one of my faves of Bob
“Think I’ll go out and go for a walk
Not much happenin’ here, nothin’ ever does
Besides, if she wakes up now, she’ll just want me to talk
I got nothin’ to say, ’specially about whatever was”
Gemini, yes, because of its easily-distracted nature…..BUT I would also add that of all the signs, conversely this is the one most likely to TELL you why they’re doing the fade-out. They ARE Mercury-ruled, after all! This might be the case if they have some kind of Mercury-Neptune or Mercury-Pluto permutation going on, but if they have Mercury wired to Jupiter or Mars, especially, they’ll usually tell you what’s up.
Sagittarius, yes – on to bigger, broader horizons and any one or any thing likely to bring them down is considered a liability to be jettisoned at all costs.
Pisces…..does this one even require further elaboration, LOL? This is the KING of the disappearing act!
I have to agree, being midway through that exact manoeuvre yet again but one of the larger scale ones, ending everything and leaving a place… based predominantly on general resonance measuring across all aspects of my life. So not drastic, so exciting!
I was only just discussing this the other day regarding farewells and so forth. My carry forward total for this move (after over 15 years in a place) is 2.5. Two great friends and one with potential. There are some other contacts I’ll keep and see how it rolls but distance works like a good wash cycle and you see what was holding for what reason even if perhaps you saw it live and close up.
Very well framed up Mystic. This really resonated as it’s rare this sort of freedom/insight is viewed positively, well other than from my good self lol. Rather it’s often times hurled at one with projections or negative adjectives as people face off at the OK coral lol.
Centaurus
Oh Goddess, if this doesn’t hit the nail on the head!
Multi-mutable here…Pisces Sun in 3rd hse, Mercury in Pisces, Sag rising w/ North Node in 1st hse, Neptune in Sag in 12th hse, Mars & Saturn in Gemini…lol, I’m a regular Chimera!
Yes I will just vanish, there’s a lot I will take, but when I am done I disappear without a trace. I like to keep my past relationships exactly there, in the past!
Also, do not try to pin me down or possess me as that is the fastest way to never see me again!
Was thinking about this for me … had 3 inter-continental disappearing acts so far in my life.
However, my brain almost exploded with applying it to Sagg Mum. She moved 18 times in the last 20 years of her life. It was always to get away from a place where people were “unfriendly”. She never felt there was compromise available. She would tell me every six months or so to never call again (yes, like I took notice of that.). She had issues relating to people – both acquaintances and family. It was so sad. But yes, even as an old lady in her 80’s she physically had to get out of there..
I’ve been moving a lot as well, sometimes because I was forced to, sometimes because I felt the need to. I come from a small town where everybody knows everybody and I had the feeling I was suffocating, I had to leave. I’ve changed schools, groups of friends and cities a lot, I lived in a foreign country as well, I always feel like I don’t belong anywhere. I’ve come to realize that I am the problem, I’m the one who is always running away, I still don’t know why…
My boyfriend who is also very mutable is same. And a lot of the mutable friends I stayed in touch with had been through similar experiences. It feels like a wave: coming and going, holding on and moving on…like a cycle almost.
Everything I love about Geminis…and Virgos too!!!
This is so dead on.
I’m like extra mutable, sun pisces exact square gem moon, so pretty much yes to all this, its weird, I can be the best company ever, but when its a bunch of boring people I just don’t want to be there and kind of just turn in to a person I don’t even like, there are usually like 1 or 2 or 3 people I like and want to hang out with and the rest I just don’t care for. I have also kind of jumped social groups a few times over while I have been in college. Its like I half invest and once it becomes clear I am expected to stay for the long haul I’m like aw hell naw and poof I’m gone. After a certain point its just like I have gotten everything I am gonna get from this why would I go out of my way to stay in something redundant and obviously has nothing more then whatever it is I just went through.
I hope everyone’s doing swell, I kind of visit this blog less and kind of miss it, and miss all of you guys. Hope everyone’s handling the astro well. I definitely notice a change in the atmosphere and how people are handling it.
also remember several parties I just bailed in the middle and went home
also I can kind of vibe invisible, I have had times friends looked for me and were calling my name when I was standing right in front of them and didn’t even move from where they just saw me a few seconds ago, I don’t know how many times a roomie or friend has been startled to realize I am standing there even though I am totally obviously there
Precisely what I am up to at the moment — vanishing from a dead scene.
Gem Sun, Pisces rising.
that’s very love zombie. I say no to suffering. Stuff the strong connection!
oh ok. fair enough you have a point. Didn’t realise it was about childhood issues. But i don’t get the point you’re trying to make What’s it got to do with mutables?
Maybe Katman has done a mutable on us and gone off on his own musings and randomly waxing lyrical re Dylan..? ;-).
hey, katman – i hadn’t seen your response above – how did you do that?? are you a time witch too?
I love this!! I think I understand why my ex wants to be friends with me on FB – still!! Even though I dumped him and then deleted him from FB. And now a few months later he’s requested to be friends again. Who does that?? I just don’t get it. Well, I kinda do after this post. Not only is he a Cancer and Toro rising but he has no mutable signs in his chart. 😯
I have Mars/Pluto/Uranus, NN and moon in mutable signs. And my Saggo moon is fierce. I burn bridges, I get restless and move on. I’m just not interested to know what he’s up to. He was never interesting to begin with.
I have an ex that lives maybe four blocks away from me and we haven’t run into each other in two years.
I think that being the last person at a party and taking home tiny amounts of leftovers are two of the saddest things.
I recharge my batteries by taking time to myself where no one knows where I am or what I’m up to. I’m not doing anything scandalous and I’m not doing it to anyone. I just need that to feel like me.
I do believe that ghosting on people is the kindest thing you can do for them when they’re not going to get what they want from you.
I am a mutable grand cross. Saturn in Pisces, Pluto/Uranus conjunct in Virgo, Moon in Gemini and Mars/Venus in Sag. It was perfect for me when I was and actress. I think I was a professional shapeshifter. I entered and exited my life stage and for the most part am welcomed back when I magically reappear. Luckily at nearing 50 I have found the grounding I so desperately needed with my Capricorn rising husband. I work my Saturn and my Aquarian rising Saturn to nail things down and give me structure and discipline. Otherwise my life was one big roller coaster of whimsy and big dreams and talk. Lots of talk.
This was a very helpful post and will continue to review as my mutables help me cope and survive well…grow and move forward. ..
Spot-on 🙂 I’ve lost count of how many times my hubby has ( feeling so insightful – bless him), outlined my character traits – while I’ve stared at him dumbfounded and said ( feeling rather hurt that he’s not been paying as much attention as I think he should be …),’ … but that was me 3 years ago !’.
He does know that I disappear tho’ & frequently warns people not to push me too far 🙂
Neptune rising in Scorp, multiple Virgo inc. moon in 9th & lots ( mainly asteroids) in 12th.
Thank-you MM for helping me solve the riddle of my one trait that has had me truly stumped. What you have described is so amazingly accurate to how i feel and act, it is spooky. So glad to hear that i’m not a psychotic social misfit/retard.
Thing is, i never considered myself part of the Mutables – as I only have one planet (Pluto) in a mutable sign – BUT i do have my Moon and Sun in the *9th House* – so i guess that would do it, huh?….I just never realised till recently how really important the Houses are…..honestly, so relieved…. not a psycho …not a psycho….thank-you!
Multiple planets in Gemini and Virgo. Tres true when I was young but I grew out of the disappearing act as an adult. Despite our flaky reputations even us Gems can grow up and take responsibility for our actions.
Brilliant. As a pisces this resonates regarding every job, friendship, home and relationship. I either get a moment of singular clarity (WTF am I doing with this toxic or outgrown person/situation) or a slow build of increasing discomfort, neurosis or disquiet that literally manifests, mostly as a sick gut feeling. These days I am more comfortable speaking my truth in some circumstances, but I wasn’t always. My past is littered with the ghosts of frienships past.
This explains why I have never been able to keep a diary even in my teens or early twenties. I found it just so excruciating to have to read back over what i thought a few months ago and so seriously jotted down thzt I had to tear it up or burn it. It wasnt the fear of having someone else read it as much as me being confronted again with how I was or thought back then. Nutty I know, but that must be my Sag rising and Gemini sun.
yes! This. 🙂 Saggo moon, Gem NN. Multiple Virgo planets
Goddess your good
Some of us are not just mutable; we are the Mutants of today and tomorrow.
This must be true! When things ended with a Gemini quantum researcher a few years ago, I wished him well but prayed that I would never see him again even though we work in the same part of town. I only saw him once, last year, when I was way over him! Don’t know if his mutable energy made him migrate to another dimension, or my Neptune rising helped me manifest my dream scenario…
Thank you for understanding. People who expect consistency from me are basically setting themselves up for disappointment.
Loyalty, different however. I can’t explain what makes me swear blood oaths for some friends.but I do. Selective fickleness. Loyalty from a distance. I suppose that my dearest friends live in cities scattered across the planet does not help.
huh. that’s twice i say dearest friends. maybe i use them as balance for the fade
“I am inconsistent, even to myself” – Bob Dylan, Master Mutable
Merc, Venus, Sun in Gem
Sag Asc.
Mars Pisces
NN, Neptune in Virgo
The whole song (Tangled up in Blue) is a mutable tale. These are his words about it: ” There’s no respect for it (time). You’ve got yesterday, today, tomorrow all in the same room, and then very little you can’t imagine not happening”… time witch poet.
Mutable Mantra. Just saying it doesn’t necessarily make it so. But it works a lot of the time 🙂
The problem for mutables and I do this myself, is that they weave together the info for a beautiful idea and quickly process the wonderful consequences of this spark right till the end, feeling the sensuousness of the possibilities as they trickle over the synapses.
Mutable mental orgasm can occur at this point. And in so many ways it is superior to a base chakra chemical one. No fuss, no muss.
Putting that idea into action ? Why bother ? It’s done.
This. Once I have thought it, it’s like it s happened, so I move on. If I were to build an empire I would need to involve personalities who do the detailed design, manufacturing, sales, etc cos I have moved on already.
Magick, yo
Spot on!
“Putting that idea into action ? Why bother ? It’s done.” Bullseye!
I always mourn the run-up to that “mental orgasm”, you can’t ever get it back, I’ve tried. What’s even crazier is the people you’ve whipped up into your frenzy patiently waiting for practical actionable plans, or for you to continue talking about said brilliant idea past 2 hours, let alone 2 weeks.
i am laughing reading this and all the comments as it is so real and it really hit me hard to realise it. i definitely focus too much on my fixed qualities – especially cos of my leo stuff – but i have a sag asc and gem moon for cryin’ out loud, and YES i am a time witch. what a great abstraction to have put into words! thanks!
i enjoyed reading this .
It explains my movement . My life story. My energy.
Gemini rising Pisces moon, mutable T cross Sagittarius on my South Node.
Sometimes we just vanish to another dimension . Another life . We flow like water , a riverflow doesn’t look back and regret and hold on its too busy rushing ahead. It’s pure magic. And my saving grace .
Many people don’t understand this and I find it hard to maintain friendships with others who don’t have a mutable bend.
And when it happens to me from another mutable , I just sigh and keep on flowing . Because I can’t help but understand .
Wow! This was excellent! You summed up Virgo so aptly and so effectively, with just that one sentence: “…Virgos strive SO hard to pass for normcore on the outside, their eccentricity is concealed by veils of protocol.”
I am a Sag, and I have to say, you hit the nail on the head describing us mutables. And you did so very poetically 🙂
Virgos and caps are the kookiest signs of the lot I believe. They love it when you see it in my exp
Lol – yep. I’m a Virgo with a Capricorn moon. I’ll do everything I can to keep my crazy well hidden. People remark on how calm I am, which makes me laugh – how can they not see I’m an anxious mess?
I repress things like it’s my job. I don’t know how to healthily express my anger and negative emotions.
Oh god, I’ve said too much. *disappears, leaving no trace*
Yep. Gem, moon & Mars sag
Piscean mother, Gemini step father, Virgo father … all super legit but flaky as!
I come from a long matriarchal line of meddlesome, quarrelsome Pisceans who’ve done me wrong in all manner of meddlesome, quarrelsome ways, & despite my having a Pisceas ascendant (& a Virgoan descendant) it is me who’s done the disappearing act. These malevolent types still manage to operate from behind the scenes, resorting to such tactics as subterfuge, baiting, ambush, manipulation of the facts; thank the stars for my objective Aquarian stellium & the parallel universe in which I dwell
and as for being single? love it-who needs the drama of dragging someone else around? (or again, having them get upset because they want to stay home watching tele when there’s a world out there to be explored..)
oops, sorry, that was meant to be part of the reply to The Baroness
lol I wondered what you were talking about! 😀
Really? I have yet to meet a Sagg that can be single or stand their own company They always need an audience. Ditto for Gemini. Pisces are cool, but underneath the still waters neurosy runs rampant but I just love those little fishies so I am happy to watch them swim in circles and let them leap over my horned head. And all those signs are crazy emotional to me. When they run into me they want a whole grand reunion and I’m the one who is all ‘who are you and what do you want’? Once folks are out of my life, they’re out forever. I was born 3 hours before the sun went into Gemini but nah, this post reeks of wishful thinking and myths, not how it REALLY is ;P *wink* <3
you kidding me??? As a sun + 4 planets in Sagg, (+Mars Pisces and Gemini Saturn) I spend most of my time doing fade outs just so that I can avoid other people and get back to where I’m most comfy – with my own company. Unfortunately I seem to be surrounded by people who get upset and take it personally when I disappear . All my long term friends are the ones who don’t bat an eyelid when I vanish with out warning and then pop up again a couple of years later…
Hiya Baroness 🙂
I’d like to introduce myself as one of those myth busting mythical Centaurs…
Long time solo, loves own company and chill time and balanced audience captivating but yeah, from a performance pov an audience helps. In the regular world I don’t need it nearly as much as my solo time tbh.
Have so many groups/scenes that are all behind and sometimes around the corner that I don’t run into and ok the odd one can surprise me and it’s like a scene from the outback… startled brumby attempts to flee the stockman’s rope… hehehehe…
Primary diagnosis for long time solo… where’s the person that doesn’t get their freak on when asked to continue to live their life/goals and create space for themselves, me and us with equal importance? Usually draws a blank or confused look and may result in clinging or stalking or worse.. lengthy debate with the manipulative view of changing my position in the end lol. None of those are worth compromising freedom, even for a great romp!
Yes, Toro is also good at moving on when it finally gets pushed to or has to. I have Earth asc/moon as my name indicates so I can be stubborn and fixed as well… and I just might be with this stand 😉 x
Do you not have any planets in mutable houses?
Centaurus 🙂
“Have so many groups/scenes that are all behind and sometimes around the corner that I don’t run into and ok the odd one can surprise me and it’s like a scene from the outback… startled brumby attempts to flee the stockman’s rope… hehehehe…”
That is a wonderful piece of writing. Says Mars in 9th, Venus/Neptune conjunct in Sag. I was nodding madly.
Chuckles.. it may be my Mercury in Saggi for random inspirational downloads.
I should mention that it may at times result in some clumsy chair overturning manoeuvre thus drawing more attention than desired. Why are Sagittarian’s prone to clumsiness I wonder? Actual horses are not.
Thank you for your lovely comment 🙂
Mystic’s description did that for me too.
heheh…Sag North Node on Ascendant here….I am *always* sporting a bruise on some part of my body! My friends have a joke that if I haven’t spilled a glass of wine at your house then I obviously have never been there!
heheh…Sag North Node on Ascendant here….I am *always* sporting a bruise on some part of my body! My friends have a joke that if I haven’t spilled a glass of wine at your house then I obviously have never been there!
oops! didn’t mean to post twice!
Lol! Yes!
As a Pisces, I can fully attest to this. Anything stale makes me physically cringe.
You mean the ‘i will take whatever i want and then disappear phenomena?
or the “whatever, now fuck off ‘ disengagement . .
Sagittareans . . ugh . .
You’re a genius Mystic. A real knack to articulate what appears impossible to express.
Oh wow! I thought that was just me. Although my Sun is Capricorn, my moon is Gemini, Sagittarius ascendant(with Venus, Neptune, Uranus in Sagittarius 1st house), I thought I was one of the only ones it happened too. I would forget exes and enemies so quickly it was like they just DISAPPEARED. It was scary because I thought something was wrong with me. But I get it now!!!
The dead feeling is totally true. Its like that commercial for some cell phone company(here in the US) where this zombie on the bus says to some guy talking “Oh my God, you are so boring you’re boring me back to death, and Im already dead.” That’s how the dead Qi feels. Medusa, you hit the mail of the head of the proverbial coffin. Great article!!
LOL.. that ad sounds hilarious!!! 😀
I don’t know if Virgos are crazy but I fear we (or I) do the above. I don’t mean to cut people off or pretend they were never there (unless I do). But I try to stay focused on the Now and this may narrow my attention span to the highly relevant.
dats me above Da groove
Mutables also specialize in basic time witchery – once they vanish from your life, you will be amazed at how you will basically NOT just run into them. They’re still there. They may even live around the corner from you.
This so happened to me with a Pisces rising ex. I bought a unit 2 doors up from him and when we broke up I never ever saw him for years, Mind you I did put up a fortress of paintings on the windowsill that looked over his backyard so I could not physically see him. They stayed up for years, We are mates now but I am still wary of him through my kitty cat /Leo instinct.
nailed it
Gem/Libra rising, virgo moon
Oh my.. SO true!! It helps tremendously when you have detached and can watch from the sidelines. Yes, I am a Virgo but I feel like the other mutable signs right now not giving a flyin’ flip about what they are doing!. Both (toro)/gem and the current pisces dude. Same exact scenario from them both dealing with divorce-itis!
On a positive note there was so much flirting this passed w/e. Met a guy from the UK in an airport bar (Scorpio) who’s birthday was on 11/7. FUN guy. we had so much fun chatting.. but he’s married. Will NEVER get into a love triangle again. We did exchange numbers but I knew I would never see him again. He looked like Hugh Grant and obviously sounded like him.
Back to the mutable signs. They are a good lesson!
xo!
Doing the time warp as I post peeps. Mutables put the warp in speed after all 😉
Yes! I always wondered about my Sag planets (Asc, Mars, Neptune)… Once it’s dead to me, there is no more effort, no more optimism, no more anything… My scorp moon feels guilty for abandoning things so quickly. Perhaps there’s a more haute way to move on. Much needed post, thanks MM!
Wonderful. good to know my nature is being kind of vindicated, even lauded, a bit. Telling I think from mutables they are saying things like”poety” wonderful” blissful” I feel the same way, and a kind fo mutable feeling too.
Huh? I zoned out. I was busy perfecting the ecosystem of my imagination. Are you sure you want to eat/wear/do/think/say that? Virgo/Virgo-rising
PS – I always knew it would end this way.
lol!!
Just, fuqing perfect, Lol!
Yes! This.
Mutable rising & mutable MC + north node
Not the mutables, just Saggos. I grew up with em. No thanks.
Virgos have this habit of thinking nothing is really their fault because they’re just so damn perfect (*sarcasm*). It’s not healthy behavior to be around :/
I have a ton of Pisces in my chart and yeah, that concept of time is majorly skewed sometimes. But for me, it’s only for my own good and to cope with life. If I blur, it’s because I need to–NOT in the egotistical sense that Saggos and Gems tend to do.
“Sticking around to talk out the obvious or a dialogue with dead qi is not efficient.”
This is exactly the conclusion I came to when deciding how to handle leaving current lover situation. I’ve decided to just disappear and not say anything, not even goodbye. I don’t think it’s too cruel because, honestly, I don’t think he’ll care. Even though we’re fixed sign Suns, me Aqua, him Taurus, and with me Aqua Mercury and him Taurus Mercury. So I’m sure we could have had some at-loggerheads, impasse-type discussions…..fun, fun….not! We really don’t have anything to argue about, just not ‘wanting the same things’ in a relationship right now….ugh….that’s always a dead in the water situation, right? What can you really say to each other at that point that could change anything? Gotta walk away….
I have Pisces Moon and Mars. My moon is in the 9th house, mutable on mutable.
He has Pisces Venus, exact conjunct my Mars. So sad, our beautiful Pisces Venus/Mars conjunction dissolved…….. 🙁
Will be interesting if this ‘works’ because he actually does live around the corner from me! Let’s see if we ever run into each other again……I hope not. I want to be in that other dimension…….hopefully his Venus won’t find me there…..
God me too. Same situation I want this, he wants that. I pulled the pin then tried to put it back in again, being a multi Libra. Luckily for both of us he said no. We live in the same small town except he’s 10 mins out. Am hoping never to run into him
Aaaaaahhh! It is almost a relief to see our truth written down…another piece of beautiful, poetic clarity by MM.
Yep. Multi-conjunct Pisces here and I have always been brilliant at this. For a while in my 20s I was hanging out with a particular group, had been with them for a few years. One night we met at my (then) bestie’s house before going out to the pub. I stood in bestie’s living room and had one of those ‘OMG WTF’ mutable moments.
One or two drinks at bestie’s house then it was everyone into their cars to head to the pub.
“See you there,” I breathed, then promptly drove off in the other direction. I never saw any of them again. Didn’t bump into them, didn’t call them. I live in a small city and have never seen a single one of them, ever. I consider this my best fade-out work.
Apart from all my Pisces, I have Aqua Venus. Once I know it’s over, I can’t un-know it. To persevere actually harms me emotionally…. I know this because I’ve tried it.
I know another Pisces woman who does this with a sociopathic level of brilliance. We were work colleagues a few years ago. Dinner at each other’s houses, all that. Then she got a new job and vanished into thin air. How funny that in my tiny town we are once again associates. No mention of our previous collegiate friendship has been made, no reference to mutual friends or ‘do you remember when’s. Two Pisceans playing duelling fade-outs 🙂
“Apart from all my Pisces, I have Aqua Venus. Once I know it’s over, I can’t un-know it. To persevere actually harms me emotionally…. I know this because I’ve tried it.”
You’re singing my song Chrysalis. I’m doing the avoidant with a couple of qi vampires atm and even when I see the phone ringing and it’s one of them, I get instant anxiety.
I have zero intention of taking that call and just sit there thinking ‘go away, go away’ like I’m warding off bad spirits.
I was, however, trying to follow MM’s weekly scope suggestion of standing on principle so am entertaining the idea of having ‘the talk’ with them. But the thought of the flack I’m gonna cop is off-putting to put it mildly. May just do the fade away, after all *sigh*
Why don’t they ever feel it’s over too???
I hate needy people 😛
Yes! *Channels Barbra Streisand*
“People….. people who need people…. are the neediest people in the worrrrrld” 🙂
Reminiscing is one of my all-time pet hates.
Me too! With Kataka rising I battle with this trait in myself at times too, which is always fun! But I push myself mentally to move forward from things that have run their course, or ended, thinking I have to avoid getting stuck… but it amazes me when I’ve run into people from scenes I’ve moved past who are still stuck in the reminiscing rut, telling the same stories they were reminiscing over years prior.
duelling fade-outs. Love it !!! 😀
I also like that your Cap moon comment:
“I consider this my best fade-out work”
Job well done. My Cap asc, Saggo moon approves 🙂
My ex is Pisces Cap-rising with moon in Aqua and he won’t go away! Specifically, he won’t quit trying to friend me on Facebook. He randomly sends me pictures and likes my public profile and background images, which, of course, I change frequently because – mutable, duh. I don’t know how I can make him go away forever and ever. His arrogant stalker behavior does not suit his astro signature at all.
omg chrysalis! you just made me realise. the work colleagues and housemates I remain in proper contact with … are mutables. probably because we get along like nothing else.
oh ok Aries as well, maybe my venus aries 10th house = lucky. plus aries sort of pick up wherever you are and keep going, they don’t hold you to stuff from whenever you last saw them 4 years ago
well ok scorpios too, scorps are kind of ‘whateverr’ like that (or at least they act like it). scorp and aries why are they so similar? the despisal of fluff, clutter?
despisal did i just make that up
awesome
gerund-imo!
haha scorp is like that, maybe they are just naturally aware of even the most mundane power dynamics and can’t willingly just let someone have the one up on them for no reason, or maybe they can respect the need to change or move forward
Aries is like that cos they simply assume the other person has been busy living their life too.
But we remember the friend has been a good one, and are happy to see them and always interested to see where they are at with life
Aries & Scorps both share Mars as ruling planet. Mars was ancient ruler of Scorp before Pluto was discovered.
It’s why they both have that Martian get fuqed, whatevs attitude. 🙂
And Altho Scorp is fixed Pluto is all about transformation. I’m 50/50 fixed mutable but Saggo moon trine Venus libra in Saggo 9th house trumps the fixed planets.
Ah love the Kenny Rogers philosophy Myst x know when to hold em know when to fold em know when to walk away and know when to run !
I’m usually nailed to the cardinal cross but when it’s time to play I seek out the mutables. My gem asc gem moon and jup sag can always keep up with the jumpers.
Time jumpers! By Golly that’s it!! We are the original Tomorrow People!!
Time jumping now are we ! How’s the 5th dimension going for you ? 🙂
Oops it’s me
is my theme song – for real!
“There’ll be time enough for counting when the dealings done”.
Maharishi Rogers 1974
Chapter 15, line 6, page 437. The Book of Kenny.
ahem brother
They used to play this song at the end of the night at a strip club I worked at. Never failed to be appropriate.
“Pisces has slipped into another dimension of time – one in which you are not there, were never there.” yes
This.Explains So MUCH! WHooooooooosH – Outta here in a blazing flash. (my astro is Mutability central. Virgo sun & Sagg moon + mars & Pisces rising).
Problem: when you feel like you live in a whole ZONE (town) of dead feeling qi – makes for a withdrawn and very anti-social critter of oneself indeed! Communing with nature becomes a necessity. GREAT post Mystic! x
I love this. It’s so true. My Sag moon is prone to emotional time witchery, once we’re/I’m done I want to never see that person again, ever.
Speaking of mutables, I watched the Nick Cave documentary 20,000 Days on Earth last night (beautiful, masterpiece) and he oozes all these mutable qualities, super stellium of Virgo and Virgo rising, I think for the most part they do a good cover up job though.
Oh, SO EXCITED to see that docu! I’ve seen Nick Cave in concert the last couple years in a row when he’s passed through, and it is always a full on soul-blasting experience–never to be soon forgotten. Seriously, I think going to see him live is one of my most favorite things in the world.
Aries Rising/Sag Sun/Leo Moon
It’s really wonderful, I think it’s enjoyable even if you’re not a fan because it’s so beautifully done but if you are (like I am too) then you will love it! He’s the best.
OMG the physicality of the “if I don’t leave this awful, awful scene (that you all still seem to be loving?!?and btw who ARE you people?!?) I will literally drown.” Perfect. And running into old friends is so awkward. The person they want you to be- who was that person? Three years ago?! That’s like 27 selves ago omg avoid avoid avoid. Though that implies existence, and you’re right, m, we were never here. 😀
I seethe inside when they think they still know me. They knew someone else. They may see me, they may talk to me, they may have memories of me, but they don’t know me.
Yes. yes to all of this. So hard. I cringe at MYSELF thinking about my past selves, even as recent as a year or two ago. It always feels much farther away. Warp speed, indeed.
So strange, I pretty much said those exact same words to my soon to be ex over the weekend. I don’t recognize the me I used to be even six months ago. And as he continued to insist that he loved me, I was thinking, you don’t know me so how can you love me. Sigh. Quad Gem here with three outer planets in Virgo. My Libra rising attracts men who only see the outer “package.”
Ha. My ex said i was perfect the first time I slept with him. I was thinking the same “how can I be perfect if you hardly know me??”
Then later on he said he fell in love with me that night. Major love zombie – ( he has Neptune square venus).
And of all the people I’ve dated he’s the one that never even got me. As in, understood what I was all about.
Dumped him after 6 months. It was all projection on his part.
Oh Yeah! I’ve basically grown up moving towns many times and have noticed that a change of attitude it is not even a conscious decision – when I move, I tune in and change to accommodate my new environment. Going back to the past is a difficult transition in conversation especially. I have also discovered if I don’t move every now and then I start to feel like I’m being set it stone. The move doesn’t have to be to a totally new town, sometimes it’s just a move in employment. It has the same effect. Mystic, you are spot on!
moved on: I totally understand where you are coming from!
somewhat unsurprisingly many of my dearest friends are stable, (sort of) sensible types who still have big hearts and inventive, wise minds… maybe that’s my earthy 11th and 3rd houses being good to me. and the saggi 7th house for some fun 😉
pi 🙂
Yes! Keep moving!!! (Merc virg,- moon mars Jupiter in gem) adapt adapt adapt.
I bought a vintage airstream during the previous zaps- because I NEED a HOME (Venus in cancer) However!!! I must NOT be SeT in Stone!!! Brilliant! even tho Scorpio rising makes me a total icy persophone so to speak…. The mutables rule me…but where will the home be? What if dreadful neighbors show up? I’ll be stuck in their twilight zone? No no no….buy and pimp out vintage travel trailer- find horse ranch with hot ranch hands 😉 and park my booty for as long as it feels good. IF I ever get a relationship again -single three years basically; I plan to keep it as my secret hideaway to escape hubby/BF and metamorph. Also if I ever et pissed off I can just gas up a truck and pull out for a few months- it’s a portable log cabin sorta-like my secret Thoreau place to write. Yes. must not get stale!!
OMG. Yes. Now I have just realised this post applies to my Uni/ post-Uni friendships. In fact I felt this so keenly when I say a few of those people recently. I just felt SO out of place in that scene. Stale qi indeed.
I better not say more, but it amazes me how people continue to fetishize the same dead scene long after anyone continues to enjoy it.
No zombie friendships. Thanks for the reminder, MM!
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Holy wow… this resonates so much but I couldn’t have articulated it. It’s just a natural feeling.
Multiple conjunct Gemini w Pisces Rising
Haute Mutable is attuned to the flow of the Tao.
Lo Mutable simply takes the easiest route for better or worse.
I am wondering if the chart axis has a lot to do with the mutability emphasis? My Gem is an Ox with moon in cancer, but he has Sun/Mer/Ven/Sat/hekate(!). He is AQUA Rising and he is very tenacious – though he will never be where he’s not wanted. He could fade out if wanted.
Truly I am seen as the more ‘flaky’ one with my mutable axis. Or perhaps we are the odd ones out!
Sheer brilliance
Ha! Ha! SOOOOOOOOO true!