“Manifesting Love” Sounds Nice But What If It Malfunctions?
Hi Mystic,
I have an extra weird current with someone and I just don’t know what’s going on here.
I had this on and off thing with an older guy in my early twenties and around the same time got really into manifesting love. And I thought I was consciously choosing to have this no expectations, no strings attached, purely physical thing with him.
He didn’t seem like “dating material” to me. But over time, of course, I developed feelings for him. Maybe as I had low self-worth at the time, I took his ghosting style of random hangout-hookups as a challenge to my ability to manifest one of these calls/texts/random encounters when I wanted to see him but didn’t want to initiate too eagerly.
Anyway – for some reason, I was really good at it. Like better than I wanted to be. I had all kinds of ways but basically, I’d just vividly think of him, his bicep, his crooked nose, olive skin or tattoo or whatever and hours later he’d pass by me on the street, at a party or in traffic. We lived in a city, not too big but not too small either.
After love zombie-ing to the max about it, I got over it and moved on. In fact, one of the days I felt fully moved on and was talking to my friend about it, I said out loud: “if I bumped into him today I would be totally fine with it.” I walked back towards my school alone and two blocks later he drove by me in his truck.
He pulls over at a light and tells me to hop in. I think this is too weird/funny so I do we and we talk for an awkward minute or two and I tell him to let me out at my school. Spooked.
It’s been years. I have mixed feelings about manifesting, esp in this way as it always felt like the “universe” or forces at play were trying to take my request too literally to teach me that people could be manifested right in front of you. But their will could not be affected. So I could manifest crossing paths but not the type of reciprocal feelings & healthy relationship that I wanted. This felt like a smart sarcastic gesture from the forces at work.
Now, ten years later, I have been reintroduced to the concept of manifesting love from a new more psychological-subconscious angle and it just brought back up all my experiences with this guy. Two days later he contacted me with a cryptic text.
Typical. I engaged back but neutrally as I don’t really have any interest left for him. I felt I needed to ghost this convo. Petty, maybe, but I didn’t want the pattern to continue. Maybe say no to the universe or something.
Then, maybe a month later I’m giving a guy friend of mine advice about a girl and it happens to make me tell a story about the guy. It was a happy memory, he is a goofy guy and it was a good story for the moment. I got excited about telling it. Maybe 4 hours later he texts me. So, may I ask, wtf with this energy?
I’ve had psyche connections/phone call synchronicity with best friends and boyfriends before and so much so that it’s not too surprising when it happens with deep connections. But I always wonder why certain people have this residual thread of energy to me or me to them. Especially since I’ve been over him and through other relationships since that became far more meaningful.
I guess I just want to see behind the curtain to know if there’s some reason I can magnetize situations so strongly with this particular person? Karma? Can I redirect this energy towards things I actually want in my life?
Any ideas / similar experiences / Astro influences / out there theories? I welcome any of it –
Sincerely,
Triple Air Gemini
Dear Triple Air Gemini,
Out-there theories? First, an “in here” theory. “Manifesting” men is super-easy in your early 20s. You just have to exist. And, he sounds like a douchelord. They’re also easy to manifest. In fact, the real challenge with these guys is banishing them. He would probably keep on showing up if you dedicated your life to Cat Worship and strode around with a “fuq off men” t-shirt on, trailed by your familiars.
He also sounds like a fuqwit. Random hangout hookups? I am not a huge fan of manifesting, as such, but if you are going to do it, only try with your self-regard at a high vibe. It will repel these types of characters. And never try to manifest love when you’re feeling needy or must-have.
But we can have an odd energetic connection with some people. It can be a soulmate link – not necessarily an indicator of good relationship material – or an essentially invincible Mars-Venus connection.
Or maybe, horrifyingly, he re-appears whenever your self-worth drops below a critical level. You mention the concept of ghosting a few times with this gentleman. I say exorcise him properly.
Shun people who aren’t offering you what you want. Literally refusing them a moment of your focus or proximity to you sends a more powerful signal than any amount of intention.
Thoughts?
Image: Virgil Finlay
Axl stayed at the hotel I was working at a number of years ago. He was in the bar (I had a great view from the open kitchen) and was kind of holding court in the bar, letting people approach and talk to him/autograph whilst Very Closely Attended by a lady/wife and a number of bodyguards. Totally strange. He also had super odd riders in his hotel contract (freshly squeezed juice at all times, 17 cedar hangars for the closet, no mini bar in the room, etc).
I get that! If you’re doing juice for quick energy on tour or whatever, it HAS to be freshly squeezed or enzymes evaporate and you may as well drink cordial. Wire coat hangers can emit static electricity and do very strange things to the Uranian aura and if he’s got some sobriety up that he values, getting the mini-bar removed so that being in a strange place, not grounded does not lead to temptation is an obvious move!
well, this is not about an ex but a neighbor turned stalker. I moved away to get away from him and his crazy gf.
Then they appear a block away from me. They befriended a neighbor after I moved.
I don’t live in a small town either. The chances of this are really rare and weird.
I drive by and they are over at the neighbor’s every night drinking til wee hours of the morning.
strange synchronicity.
I really honestly do not know what to make of this odd coincidence either.
Hey that’s a spooky story, sister.
Hello everyone 🙂
Long story short, I attracted to me a delicious man who turned out to be the left version of myself: his Pluto-Moon conjunct was square mine; his Sun Venus Mars in Aquarius were square my Sun Venus Mars in Scorpio… Oh yeah: hot as hell. It ended a month later with complete nuclear fallout. And honestly, I saw the end coming the whole time like a train coming at me through a tunnel. I did not leave the tracks.
Our unconscious, or higher self, always knows what we need to progress during this lifetime. Sometimes to evolve & create newness, destruction must come first. Our higher selves know. Our conscious selves try to logic & reason but let those mental gymnastics come & go. Abraham Hicks praises the utility of “contrast” as an soul-evolutionary necessity, and that resonates to me. Appreciate the contrast of what you don’t want vs what you do want, through your experiences. Maybe it’s the whole point. Let that observation/feeling guide your intentions going forward.
ANKH!!!!!! Hon, i missed you & your words of ScorpWisdom so much on here! Welcome back.
Sounding well, wise & wondrous as ever. Hope the nuclear dust has settled. X
Skarab!! ♡ Much of the dust has been sucked up & sent to CERN, yes (excellent dark matter fodder, they told me). So good to connect with you again! x ♡ x
Pf! ♡ We are fickle yet constant as the moon… Good to connect with you again x
Hi gorgeous Ankh! So great to hear your voice (sotospeak), missed you, mwah!
{{{ sphinx }}} So good to connect with you again ♡ xx
Sweet baby cheeses. Where the hell have you been?? No don’t answer that. Pisces missed you. Nice work with the train trax. Xoxoxo
♡ Pi ♡
I was hanging out with a paranormal investigation group & met an incredible woman who I could’ve sworn was you. I loved her immediately & still do. You too xx
I have this kind of connection with someone. He reappeared at profoundly critical moments. Like the day before I was supposed to move out of his neighbourhood; the day a potentially life-changing funding application was due in; at a nightclub out with friends when I was praying not to see him. Now the test is to feel less & less each time he yanks that cord/ we see each other. I have literally moved to the other side of the world (ironically, to the country he’s from) but we are part of the same small scene so doubtless we will see each other again sometime. I would say you’re still corded, and I think Mystic’s exorcism idea is an extremely good one.
For me I really had the chance to grow from the connection when I recognised that I was in control of the vibe, and not to give him any of my energy. We even parted on relatively good terms. But those good terms rely on me not being drawn in by any of his attempts to revive the past or make me jealous. Likewise, I would try to get to the point where, if you ever see him, you just shrug & think no more about it. The special meaning of ‘karmic’ connections is to learn to let them go. Thanks for sharing your story, by the way – glad to know I’m not the only one who goes through this kind of weirdness 🙂
I don’t know. Last summer I had a very trippy experience with what was and will be a relationship with a man. I’m in my 50’s he’s a little over half my age, both of us found ourselves drawn to each other, just to be near. When we would spot each other in the small town we live in time stood still and it shook me to the core. He was just here for the summer and it tripped me. When I heard different styles of music (the most poignant was American Civil War Era – the movie/book Cold Mountain popped in my head), I knew at that point as images swept into my head that we were LOVE, and then more came from an unidentifiable future. I knew at that time we were timeless but not meant to be together here on this plane and most we could do physically is hug. It was pretty amazing.
Wow! That’s beautiful & intense.
It was deeply intense and still have moments where I wonder ‘did that really happen?’ and then question ‘what was the purpose of THAT?’
wonnnnderful… I would pay to have such an experience…and man, do I love cold mountain!
Is it manifesting or being psychic? My name was called out to win a prize, if I could hit a nominated number on a dart board. My eye was drawn to 12 and I threw in that general direction. I got it and was congratulated with a bottle of vino and everyone saying I was fab at darts. I replied I can’t play for nuts I must be psychic.
Karma baby – pure and simple!
You could just delete and block his number. Not very otherwordly advice but then I have a Cap Lilith-moon conjunction with whom Pluto has just finished, paving the way for Saturn any minute now.
I do get it though, about people just showing up, obvs. I had some kind of ongoing connection with the Weatherbeaten Virgo of yore. I would just think about him seemingly out of nowhere and there would be a message within hours. I had to realise that I was invested also on some level in keeping the connection going. It was only when I really truly was able to let go that he stopped contacting me. I felt it, energetically. I have loads of stories like this but that was the most recent.
I also think as women that the entire culture teaches us that when people won’t leave us alone or respect our boundaries that there could be some ‘higher’ power at work, like Fate or whatever, when the truth is somewhat more toxic. These kinds of constructions have the potential to keep us bound in our own powerlessness.
*with which. I do see them as actual people, *wry laugh*
Thank you for writing this! I really think you hit the nail on the head, esp with the fated encounters scenario! I definitely needed to hear that in regards to my own fuck bois still contacting me..
I couldn’t agree more. I had an on again off again thing for years with a guy I met hours after I had literally thrown up my hands and ask the universe to send me someone hot who wasn’t in a relationship or gay. Due to the instant manifestation of our meeting and subsequent moments of him showing up or texting me at significant moments, I told myself it was the universe at work. And really it was just unhealthy Chi vampire energy.
I agree. Maybe this guy is actually stalking you and you only notice him sometimes? It’s kinda weird he shows up around your school often. He knows it’s your school right? Why else is he there? Live close by?
Yes: your last paragraph.
Similar Story” he re-appears whenever self worth drops below a critical level” and too funny Mystic. . “ send him off. . To the pink neon light of the nearest bar with strippers and a half price happy hour!”
Key statement: “he re-appears whenever self worth drops below a critical level”… OMG… so true. Like some guys have the sense as to what is going on with us.
I have experienced similar manifesting of lovers…
I believe it’s a case of be careful what you wish for.
What was your subtext mantra at the time.?
I made the TERRIBLE mistake of asking incessantly for the PTBs to make
My abusive (in all ways possible) ex fiancée to miss me every hour of every day and every hour of every night ( in the vain hope he would get therapy!)
So EVERY time I went to a big local shopping centre he either was on the pedestrian walk (so tempting!) or arrived milliseconds after me.
This of course traumatised me and the PTSS revved up and I also had to protect my 91 year old father from him on occasion.
Why why does he also turn up I screamed at my therapist????
The shops open from 7am to 9 pm weekdays and I am very brave sometimes to go, I often have to tell myself I am entitled to be here, I am safe etc etc
So therapist says think about going to other places as you leave the house.
Unfortunately my ex and I had a very strong speak to each other’s mind thing happening…
Set up Guardians, doors, shielding, Archangel Michaels sword to sever chakras etc etc
Finally realised that I WAS doing it by asking that he missed me.
The only way my incessant mantra could be answered was by us ALWAYS arriving at the shops in synchronous orbit!
The arsehole apparently had to see me everyday to miss me!
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!
Stopped that wish real quick and slowly, once the resonance dissipated, we don’t meet up much anymore
The situ and all the comments are so interesting. I seem to have the opposite: once someone is out of my life, they are Out Of My Life and this isn’t just me being ice cold cap moon, I’m talking the other connections and sweet vibes, the ones I’d be happy to cross paths with again and chat, and look at their nice face, you know. But nope. It’s like they’ve crossed a threshold never to return. Maybe that’s Venus on my south node. An exchange of hearts (or not), and then a goodbye. I do still think of them – as you can tell, ha – but it’s like it only exists at a psychic/cosmic level and occasionally flickers across my mind. Maybe that’s when they’re thinking of me too… Or not.
Aww.
I also have this “manifestation” skill and according to my experience it always happens when there are aspects to Pluto (The Unconscious, the oposite of the consciousness(the Sun)). Usually a trine or sextile to my natal Pluto(which is in Scorpio and the ruler of my Sun, Saturn and South node). Or even an aspect between transit planets and transit Pluto. Like the trine between Mercury and Pluto which we have today.
Sounds like a Pluto haunting, with a dash of Neptunian Love Zombie-ing, to me. He’s a good bit older than you, could his Pluto be on your Venus or some other inner planet? Is there a Neptune-Mercury connection? He sounds horrible. I’m not sure if this is so much you manifesting as much as it is you are likely dealing with a psychic stalker. Maybe his Pluto is on your Mercury, and you being a triple Gemini means he’s got YOU dialed in, and not the other way around like you would like to think? I’m with Mystic: exorcise this fool, tout suite.
As a Gen Xer who saw GNR several times back in the way back – LIVING for this picture! May go listen to “November Rain” or GNR Lies on spotify now….
Funny– as soon as I saw the pic I thought, WHAT did she ever see in him?!? Especially when he beat her.
A few years ago, I had my first crystal healing with a very talented woman. She sensed a conflict with a brother in law. I laughed and said there was nothing, maybe she meant my deceased brother.
Within the year, my husband and I had a bonfire and my eldest brother in law went home with a friend of mine of 20 years. The flirtation that night was weird, they kept talking about how awesome my relationship was and the brother in law told a story that made himself sound like a hero but the story in reality happened to my husband (involving my father in law having a drunk accident and needing emergency brain surgery).
Then began a bizarre ‘game’ of the friend being pushy about how important her place was amongst the relatives. Things spiraled and I realized this person had been vamping me for years, adopting the things she liked about my personality and life. Saturn crossing my Sag Moon Neptune conjunction – boundaries learned the hard way.
One thing boundaries do not fix is the damage from the past. That needs deeper and longer work. Well it does for for me anyway I have Chiron in Taurus on my descendant. I have learned a lot and become stronger, but this person continues to lurk in my life and in my dreams. I think I have expelled it but then the anger resurfaces. Since she’s now living with the brother in law, she’s deep in the mix. I also suspect her chart is flip-flopped from mine, my Scorpio rising juxtaposed with her (assumed) Taurus rising. We were born a month apart so very similar charts.
Working through this is where the deep healing happens. Sometimes it’s a gash that needs immediate attention and other times it’s a wound that lasts for years, getting infected and such but much easier to ignore.
Well work on manifesting absolutely amazing people and things eh?
Synchronicity is awesome and everyone kinda has their own style.
Wow Mystic, I just saw Steven Adlers band last Thursday . They are currently on tour is Aus doing the songs from Appetite for Destruction.
I’m a bit goo goo over the bass player swooning mooning and gone all zombie on social media.
had similar experiences with someone I thought was the man of my life. even after breaking up (mutual disappointments and many other issues), him moving to another country, purging the house, throwing away everything that reminded him, etc, at least once a year I would bump into some mutual friend who would update me on what he was doing – ie making a family of his own -aaarrrghghghghgh…and all of this without me asking about him at all… it took TWELVE YEARS of these signals & updates until it ended with a bang: one evening I parked my car and noticed that on the building next to which I had parked they had used some free press magazine from a place I used to go on holiday to (the place he lived in, even though I never met him or his friends there) to protect the windows from paint while redecorating. I looked closer as soon as I recognized the free press, thinking with a smile “hey, these people have just been to ibiza like me this summer” and right in front of me, at eyes height, there was an article CONGRATULATING HIM ON THE BIRTH OF HIS DAUGHTER!!! he was a well-known club pr at the time, so it made sense that this piece of news was in that magazine, and had always been obsessed with having a daughter, and after two boys he had finally had jasmine. why the universe had to let me know I have no clue. sorry about the caps lock but I wanted to convey my amazement. there was another freaky unexpected meetup with him as well, but I don’t want to bore anyone, so I’ll skip it. another one used to turn up out of nowhere into my life every four-five years or so, but this too seems to have vanished for good. I did karmic cord cutting twice re these two: the first time it didn’t work, while the second time was effective.
Thanks for sharing Isa, I had a similar experience too with the so called love of my life. For a good ten years or more everywhere I would go I would stumble into ‘reminders’. The most upsetting time was a necklace I had made him which once he would have never taken off had obviously been donated to a charity shop. I unfortunately for some reason crossed town to visit an eye specialist and after the appointment I thought I would visit this op shop across the road and there was the braided necklace with its red coral hanging in the shop for sale. Another random time was I strolled through a market and a girl was selling his entire wardrobe (which I had mostly picked out or bought him) – when we lived together. Years later, I picked up an out of date mag in a coffee shop and read about the birth of his first child which made me tear up. I think looking back I attracted it all due to never being quite over him.
I’m speechless. this is QUITE something, belle… poor belle, it incessantly brought back the pain (I guess, at least this is what it did to me)… well, I probably wasn’t quite over with him either, regardless of all the pain involved and of the obvious failure of the relationship. but I was well aware, at least from the second year afterwards, that in fact it would have been a catastrophe if I had stayed with him, given him children, etc. I even felt repulsion. so, I don’t know… the spookiest moment though was meeting him just hours away from finding out that the boy I had just started going out with had died :((((. when at last I thought ‘well, here’s a chance to move on, I’ve met this boy and for once the attraction works both ways, so there’s hope for me’, this boy dies in a car crash, a friend drags me out of the house so that I’m not alone and who do I stumble upon? him, who’s back in town for the weekend (of course I had no idea). my interpretation was ‘well, for you there’s nobody yet’, but that tragedy was the start of a beautiful spiritual journey for me. thanks god it’s definitely over 🙂 (the reminders, I mean). xxx
Brilliant! Pure Mystic.I totally unzombied myself with your wise words.
About 8 years ago I was dropping resumes off at a school/TAFE when I wandered into an exhibition that an “out there” conservative space cadet was in. We chatted about the works and our hopes for the future. Our parting conversation between strangers went like “well I’m getting a job at T school when I finish studying” and I said” well I’ll be your supervisor” Boom 7 years later the penny dropped and I remembered meeting her before. Totally bizarre.
I used to pine for a complicated ex and finally wrote his name on a piece of paper and burned it with a candle releasing his energy to continue without me or rather me without him. I had to do it three times before it felt complete.
I do love synchronicity, its like a wake up call. An Aboriginal elder at work said it shows your on the right track.
Sounds ike he kept popping up for you to learn a Life Lesson. Until one says “No” to the same person or same type of person/relationship, the Universe will keep serving them up. I’ve been rereading some good manifesting books by Genevieve Davis
loving that photo.
i’m soo hoping the rumours that gnr are gonna do an ‘appetite for destruction’ tour are true.
takes me back to being 14 again.
and Duff is gorrrrgeous. and sober, just like Slash, yeahhhh
Yeah, but Axl is looking like a cross-dressing Meliisa McCarthy.
I used lurk at groupie sites and word on that street was, Axl’s into scat. Gawd, can you imagine if the world kept spitting Axl’s at you? {{{shiver}}}
yeah axl’s justa walking ego!
is that Axel Rose?
yes
karma or just drama? lol
Yeah. Never ever saw the appeal.
The way to understand a situation like this is complex, karma forms astral patterns and astral patterns create their own ripples.. but none of this matches the power of your intent. Though karma can drag you through the mud and your life’s purpose can be meeting that monstrous tangle in the web of Maya, I still believe in personal power as it is channeled via Higher Power, called on with intent by you.
Like, that quote a post back or so about the word of a medium/shaman/witch being concrete. The mind can also be full of happenings concretised as soon as they pass over your inner vision if you are in the way of the Tao.
Seems like this guy and you have lots of links, shared energy etc he is easy and receptive to being manifested by you. Doesn’t make him worthy! It makes me feel like you are looking for reassurance. Or a part of you, an energy portion you gifted to him years ago needs to come home. Yeah what MM said 😉
I so love your phrase ‘karma can drag you through the mud and your life’s purpose can be meeting that monstrous tangle in the web of Maya’!! My life’s feeling a bit like that at the mo. It helps to laugh about it.
Getting that energetic piece back is part of the work, right? That line says it all, sphinx.
Wise words – these are resonating with me
You carry some of his energy or vice-versa from a past life. Maybe one of you was the parent in that edition, and the energy – possibly some kind of undealt-with trauma that reattached at the time of birth, maybe why you kept letting him back in? Obvs you enjoyed the time you shared, despite his play. He must be carrying some of you as well to be responsive to your psychic strokes.
I’d go see a reputable energetic healer and have those lingering morsels removed or bricked up, or whatever magic they do. Have a total professional cleansing done, maybe even get to the bottom of what the past life issue is, so that it doesn’t come back up again next lifetime around.
Pretty cool though.
This really strikes a resonant chord – especially now with Neptune at 15 Pisces trine Jupiter at 16 Scorpio. And Mercury opp Jupiter.
I never knew what ghosting was until a few months ago and then I heard that in Buddhism there is a realm called the Realm of Hungry Ghosts and now I guess they can be found embodied or disembodied, to play with our fantasies, dramas and karmas. Or we can play with the energies too – magnetism or just too Swiss cheese with our boundaries.; or old Piscean Age rescue mentality. And so on.
Then I came across a neat saying:
“Yin without Yang is a corpse;
Yang without Yin is a Ghost.”
This has given me much grist for the mill and whenever I am feeling inert to the point of being corpse-like, I get the Yang moving by wiggling my big toe. It’s a great start and always leads to something else in the way of personal integration of the Yang energy into the Yin. This is good therapy for me, as I have mostly in my life been the Yang without the Yin – firing off into the world without bodily relational connection. I guess it’s always a balancing act – what one needs to initiate in one’s own being at any one particular point in time. But probably not a good idea to load half of it on to someone else, being as we are in the Age of Self-Actualization.
Love this.
Side tracking here but your toe wriggling reminds me of Tesla’s brain cell stimulation by squishing his toes 100 times every night.
That’s a great quote! Ghosts are so yang in their grief and rage too.
love it. thank you cynthia for the yin-yang quote & reflections.
Wonderful, thank you
The node issue is interesting. I don’t know if I manifest or just pick up telegraphs but I frequently do this with my clients. They’ll just pop into my head and I spend a fleeting 10 seconds thinking about them then the line goes dead. Next hour or so they call me. It’s bizarre. I’ve an old lover I cannot think about as he texts directly back. I’m sure we have connections that don’t require voda phone or O2.
This reminds me a lot of a guy I’ve known for about 10-11 years, since college. We’ve never dated or even so much as hooked up, but it’s similar. He’ll pop into my head sometimes, and it’s not long before I hear from him. Sometimes it’s the reverse, I’ll message him, sometimes after years of not talking and he’ll mention trying to find me (I am certainly the one who disappears, albeit not intentionally, more often). We’ll inevitably hang out, remember the disinterest, and then mutually ghost for a month, few months, years at times. It’s bizarre.
Needless to say his Mars is near exact conjunct my Venus. His Venus is also opposite my Neptune, and his moon is opposite my Saturn. Each of us have a bucket load of stuff in Leo that’s all conjunct one another, it feels crowded. My Venus and Sun squares his Pluto and Saturn respectively. There’s actually a ton of aspects between our charts that could explain the mutual draw and disappearing acts, but those all stand out the most. It often feels like both of us are too similar in many ways, but the differences are too disconnecting to be interesting.
yeah, the same goes for the one that appears every four-five years. in my case it’s a scorpio overcrowding, mars-venus and venus-neptune do it, and his pluto on my sun, but then in my case it’s mercuries squaring with each other, and him having uranus opposite the moon (really unstable and easily bored), and the fifth in aquarius – dammit, really ahead of the game, invented ghosting over twenty years ago when the word hadn’t even been invented yet 😀 . you say it so well: too similar, but differences are too disconnecting. particularly the mercury: not enough topics to talk about or shared interests.
Amen