The Business End Of Venus Retrograde

This is the business end of Venus Retrograde in Capricorn – the phase when every single Venusian issue* intensifies, just as the planet is on the verge of turning Direct.

Like any Venus Retro, you can anticipate an amped-up focus on the past. You contemplate the paths not taken or the paths you took but now think you should have dynamited.

But this is not a goo-goo gaze back or even something to address with a yogic shrug/chakra cleanse/ritual. It’s in Capricorn, remember. So the mind naturally turns to harvest, crops, and gardening metaphors – soils, the season, invasive weeds that arrived via weird winds.

You don’t want closure: you’d like to invoice – for the time, seduction money, cul de sacs presented as freeways, rigor-rictus from bright smiles when your psyche was resisting and well, a hefty ‘sundries.’

Are the wisdom and gravitas represented by this particular Venus Retrograde worth the angst-tripping? You’ll know by March when Venus re-encounters Uncle Pluto.

Thoughts?

*Love, Art, Sex, Body Image, Intimacy, Pleasure, Creativity, Relationships, Sensuality, Decor, and Money Attracted, rather than Earned, as such.

Image: Dynasty – the Eighties version.

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Invicta

How gorgeous is this comment thread?
🤗

firecow

I’m a venus type – taurus sun, venus, jupiter all conjunct and a libran moon – and my word for this year is harvest, or bounty. Makes perfect sense now!

Invicta

I adore this post and that graphic from Dynasty is honestly The Best Thing EVER.
The Venus Rx has been outrageously intense and I don’t fully understand how yet or everything that has changed. The involvement of Pluto was powerful. I feel like there’s some completion of things that happened when Saturn was in Sagittarius. As if something destabilised me back then, something plutonic and vital to my identity which has run its course or healed stronger now. It’s all quite nebulous still but evident at a sensory level.

Carey

MM your image accompaniment for this one is hahaha!!! so perfect. Can’t stop lauging.

Brunnie

“The paths not taken or those taken that should be dynamited”. This is very important. The eternal argument between free will and fate. I believe there is both. To move into the depths beyond conditioning and our filters is not an easy task. I have seen perhaps six people who have been able to do it and stay grounded and there is no mistaking them. They emit the “glow”. I wish they would teach but, of course ,they don’t because it is a process that no-one can teach. It has to be a journey that you wish to undertake with… Read more »

Tetrahedron

I am thoroughly impressed with Mystic’s ability to describe astrological events and time passages in poetic prose, which, I think, shows things in entirely new perspectives, so kudos to her, and may they keep coming. Anyway, to stay on topic, I have found that, yes, I have “attracted” money, but it’s got some kind of major karmic debt associated with it, which, at first thought, has to do with deceptive practices and disloyalty, but there’s something a lot deeper going on, so I decided to just go with it (Pisces rising). But there is a (secret?) part of me that… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

Best Wishes for your rebirth.

And please do publish your work.

5thHouseCap

Also off topic, and maybe part of Feb Monthlies. The full moon in Feb is a direct manifestation portal of August 2021 Leo New Moon. Does anyone have experiences of things waxing and waning with New Moon and Full Moon cycles in various signs?

Tetrahedron

Re: August 2021 Leo New Moon “Lion’s Gate” As a moonchild, I feel all manifestations of the moon, but with the APPROACH of the Leo New Moon at 16 degrees (natal ascendant at 16:33 Pisces), squaring Uranus in Taurus, it brought me shocking realizations about my health and a stark reminder of the shortness of life; that I was wasting precious time, which I now realize (Venus retrograde in Cap) was a blessing in disguise because it was the perfect time to set a new intention for my life, or to prepare for whatever comes next (Saturn transit conjunct 12th… Read more »

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Wish Upon a Star

Yes I understand the concept of wasting precious time. I’m sorry you had to go through that pain.

Go Well Mystic Rose

x.

Wish Upon a Star

Off topic: Sorry.

I just wanted to reach out to emg. Jupiter will be crossing my Ascendant Pisces Feb 8 – 17.
I have just read the blog: why is the lead up to this transit so hard? The blog and the comments are very helpful.

The comments also talk about the Jupiter transit through the 12th house. Very enlightening.

Emg I’m just wondering if this Ascendant transit will be happening for you soon?

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Sam

Jupiter in 12th is big, spiritually huge. There’s just no bandwidth for the outside world. Rest, dreaming, creation, prayer of your preferred type. Eat simply and sleep. You’ll be back soon enough. For now it’s about your soul x

Wish Upon a Star

Gee I wish I knew this before it started Sam. Your comment in that post was especially helpful. I totally get the no band width bit. Anywho I still had chemo brain for the most part of it so no point beating myself up.

Saturn is in the 12th now so I will take notice of that. Any tips?

As a Pisces Rising, Gemini Sun and Taurus Moon can you tell me which Transits I should be aware of? Anyone? Mystic?

Wish Upon a Star

Specifically house transits. I have my 7 year ahead report.

Sam

Hmm, they do say (mystic was it you who said this?) to do the transiting planet, work on the house opposite. So for saturn in your 12th this would be your 6th house. Health, paperwork, sending emails in time, due diligence, attention to detail, pet-sitting, vacuuming, nutrition.. those kinds of things. In a way you can manage, not flogging yourself. I think saturn / chronos (not the same gods? But I am blending them here) in your house of mystery and hidden things would appreciate these kinds of mundane offerings and libations. An elderly man of few words keeping the… Read more »

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Calcifer

Beautiful thoughts, Sam, love these words. ‘An elderly man of few words keeping the temple floor swept and the gardens tended, even though the people of the city preoccupy themselves with daily life and might not come to worship’. 🕊

Wish Upon a Star

My sentiments exactly !

Wish Upon a Star

When I read this comment a few days ago I got a beautiful visual and I was comforted. You lit that sandalwood stick for me and I was centred and at peace. Thanks Sam. And yes I was already doing the 6th house health thing with a liver cleanse and am slowly tackling paperwork. That’s my kryptonite.

Oh well I used my pendulum today to choose some bach flower essences to start on the new moon tomorrow. Hornbeam came up to tackle procrastination.

Thanks Sam. Don’t be a stranger and don’t hide that light under a bushell.

🙂

Sam

Uranus cj moon would be good to confirm. And check your progressed moon sign and house (and inner planets) and what it is aspecting x

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Wish Upon a Star

My progressed Sun is in Leo, late 5th house , Moon in Taurus,3rd house (also natal), Mercury in Cancer, 5th house (also natal), Venus is Virgo, early 7th house along with progressed Uranus conjunct Pluto (oh boy do I feel that) and I natally have these 2 conjuct natally, Mars in Scorpio just entering 9th House. Uranus was on my natal moon some time ago. And I felt it. Then had a reprieve but it will be coming back again, not sure when? I’m not too good with aspects yet. And I have just finished a liver cleanse and my… Read more »

Tetrahedron

Jupiter is crossing my Pisces Acs starting March 11th, and Jupiter’s been in my huge 12th house for quite a while now, almost a year. Halfway into 2021, I literally retired from a well-paid teaching job, living the life of a recluse. Jup in natal 6th house Leo, I took care of animals while others went on vacay, then I discovered a brain health issue, which made me focus more on my inner life. 10th house Cap Venus saw me rekindle en old friendship with a Cap female that I thought was over and done with (not romantic – girlfriends… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

I am confused. Not sure if you are emg? But I don’t want to blow your cover. And I’m sorry I don’t remember the brain health issue. I’ve forgotten things pre, during and post chemo.

I also reconnected with an old, very dear friend from my 20’s. She’s still in Melbourne and I’m in Qld. It’s funny: you don’t know what you have till you lose it.

emg

Hey hi 👋. Yes both jupiter and saturn in my 12th. Neptune on my asc as I type. 21 degrees. So it’s arriving very soon. It’s all been rather fraught, Italy etc and now my mother has just broken her ankle so I’m heading back to the uk to help her out. Not that comfortable about that but 12th house Jail ??? But I have felt that I’m about to find my next vocation !

emg

Wish how are you ? Feels like I’ve been neglecting mystic site as other issues have over taken my time.

Wish Upon a Star

Hi emg it is so good to hear from you. Sorry to hear about your mother. Will it be a nice change to go to the Uk? I too have Jupiter (just about to merge with my ascendant) and Saturn(starting out)in my 12th house. I am prepared for Saturn as I have read up on it. I actually like the effect it is having on me. I just finished a week of liver cleansing with quality herbs etc and using the last quarter wane of the moon. I am ready for the Lunar new year. And the new moon in… Read more »

emg

Fire horse here. Haven’t looked at the tiger year yet but bring it on. 12th saturn for me last time was a reckoning and a removal and I can feel the same thing coming. Jupiter always takes before it gives so that’s removals too. Then Neptune is great deceptions or delusions but I’m seeing them and no longer doubting myself. I just have a feeling I’m growing ever more authentic. Plus I’m now very very adept with my animals plus people whispering. Health not amazing, weight awful but I’m just going to have to go back to living on sunshine… Read more »

Invicta

Of course you are a fire horse!
That makes sense 🔥

emg

Neigh! Yes exactly. Utterly non conformist sovereign and has to go experience it to learn anything and that involves tumbling off cliffs and swimming seas and bucking the trends.

Invicta

❤️🐴🔥

emg

Glad to read you Invicta. Hope you are thriving !

Wish Upon a Star

I understand the bit about becoming more authentic. This also means removing the people who don’t appreciate my authentic self. And strangely when I am authentic around these people they just want to take. So slash and burn time. Fire horse. Yes I can feel that. Just give me a neigh and flash your mane when this little goat is climbing the mountain. I don’t think you should go back to sunshine and vitamins. Fire up that horse metabolism by nourishing your body in the right way. Do you know what I mean? Something interesting happened to me a while… Read more »

emg

That’s the stuff. That’s the exact stuff I’m experiencing. Subtle synchronistic things that are blatant now. You dream this person they pitch up. You tune out only to have your daydream appear in your lap. And I’m now realising all the stuff previously witnessed was leading me here. Oddly enough I’m in my best health on sunshine and vitamins. I’m one of these people who thrives when fasting. So I’ll find the right balance for my next chapter. You have a strong instinct and sometimes it can be your calling to give. But only give when that action feeds you.… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

I Dream of Genie. Remember that series. I reckon you are alot like her, charming and warm. Thanks for the advice about giving. You’ve got the nail on the head. I had a nice moment today. I bought a beautiful teal diary for the start of my New Year. Thought I would try my luck with a scratchy. Was it me talking to myself or someone else pointing out the ticket.” It’s a gharish Hot pink but you will win”. And I did. $8 but the thrill and confirmation was the jackpot. You’ve got to smile and laugh. And let… Read more »

emg

Congratulations. You are on the right track obviously! Woo hoo. Exactly that. Confirmation. And with that you can move on knowing exactly the voices to listen to.

Wish Upon a Star

You make me sound a bit cray cray. Lol.

Mmm that’s why I should keep my stuff to myself. I’m a sensitive fish.
Thanks for the reminder to protect myself. Less the babbling brook more High Priestess energy.

emg

not crazy at all.

Wish Upon a Star

Oh emg I was doing a liver cleanse when I wrote that so I was a bit sensitive. And as of tomorrow it looks like I will be doing a no screen detox for 9 days as I couldn’t pay the bill. Oh well, shit happens. I think it will be good. Can you feel all the magical Pisces stuff happening. The conjunction, the New Moon in Pisces. Wow ! I also wanted to check in with you as I watched the news and saw the current weather in the UK. I hope you and your mother are ok? Be… Read more »

emg

Actually I see myself more as the Robin Williams Blue Genie of Aladdin!!!! Hahahaha

Wish Upon a Star

I had to google that blue Genie. That’s you. You can’t be duplicated. lol.

Calcifer

Love this emg… ‘Only give when it feeds you’. And the genie in the bottle visual too
✨🧞‍♂️✨

emg

Exactly. You magical creature you !

Wish Upon a Star

I have just reread this comment now. And thank you so much for the advice re: feed my soul.

Yes the penny has dropped. When it feeds my soul I am supported.

And fire is a big part of you !

Centaurus

Speaking of all things Venus – the Saggo scopes for the coming week feature Joan Didion – vale. I wasn’t aware she’d departed but the the article link is on self respect a timeless theme and I think, apt.

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Invicta

God yes. Joan Didion’s influence has been so enormous it’s as if everyone now is either derivative of her or …maybe her opposite archetype, party girl. That on self respect piece is insanely good and that it was penned for a vogue article even better. She had such a wonderful, precise way of holding back. Such minimalist prose and so conservative in all the best ways. The way she stood in the midsts of all that bohemian decadence and documented it so cooly. Surgical precision and pared back style. The way she wrote about grief after losing her husband and… Read more »

5thHouseCap

Can I also use this space to say how much I am looking forward to MM’s return from vacay and restart of dailies. 😁❤

Centaurus

Seconded.

Invicta

Been putting thought into what colours I will wear this year and which fabric I will use. Really spending time sketching out the designs and being more mindful about what I want to make myself. I’ve made some beautiful bags since I started this journey and will make a wallet soon. Sewing underwear and pyjamas and day robes for drinking tea and reading in. Since lounging is a thing Im doing such a lot of lately I might as well be dressed to enjoy it. Dresses are currently all I want to sew and I have to really convince myself… Read more »

Invicta

This made me laugh (biz end of Venus retrograde)
I was asked to participate in a market research event being held on zoom which I was paid handsomely for and enjoyed being a part of. It was the company that I buy my hair colour from and they were interested in how shopping behaviour has changed pre vs post pandemic. There’s nothing a Sagittarius rising person loves more than being earnestly asked for their opinion.

Centaurus

Yes, there’s a definite willingness to contribute if asked earnestly.

Calcifer

There’s nothing a Sagittarius rising person loves more than being earnestly asked for their opinion’ That is so true, I have Sun in Sagittarius and love to be invited to share my opinion 🌞

Centaurus

Sagittarius sun here and Mercury 😊

Invicta

Being paid for it was the most validated I’ve felt in my whole life 😂

Skarab

Business end of Venus Rx in Capricorn? Just found out that we won our class action suit against the government at the EU Court of Justice. We will be repaid the whopping great fine our government *illegally* imposed on us. The injustice happened about 5 yrs ago (i bitched a lot about it here) when Saturn was in Sagg & transiting my 2nd house (finances). I’ve had a major gripe against the planet ever since – considering i play legit & take meticulous care over my finances & taxes, while zillionaire crooks & corporations stash their mostly nefariously earned money… Read more »

Invicta

Congratulations Scarab! I love a David & Goliath – justice prevails kinda story.
Im particularly pleased that it’s you. ❤️ Well done.

5thHouseCap

Yayyyy!! Such a wonderful 3 of cards energy. Celebrations and felicitations! 🤗

Centaurus

I recall and 5 is a Venus number and she can also be related to fiscal matters. 2016 was a full Venus in Gemini and the Saturn square Jupiter era. Saturn was also opposing the 8th. Taxes, alimony, other’s money versus your money and how you would choose to spend it. That was a challenging time for me as well and not without it’s costs that are still being born in one way or another. Interesting (and random) I’ve just been given money owed from incorrect salary from a job from that era. The process started in October and has… Read more »

Skarab

Thanks for your sage advise & astro round up, Centaurus, it really fits. Plus I just realized that Uncle Pluto rules my 2nd & he/i wasn’t gonna let go of the issue till resolved, one way or another .  I also remember you & I having a good ol moan during the Saturn in Sagg era (in Mystic’s Astro school – I miss that) even before my financial fuqery, and how shit that really was. It had deep repercussions for quite a few people in my sphere, too. Anyways, Nature , beasties, & building good home base(s) are keeping me out of… Read more »

Invicta

Saturn in Sagittarius was the actual Worst. When I think it’s rough I just cast my mind back and, yep, not so bad.

Skarab

It was the pits. I know people who actually lost their minds during that transit – like gone, went awol, gave up.

Centaurus

I think the reason I mention Venus is that she’s perhaps underestimated at times or seen too literally as popping out of a clam shell all doe eyed and willing to be loved and give love. She’s hard too, ruthless if need be and I’ve begun to watch her a bit closer (my chart ruler) as I haven’t always pinned her for some outcomes initially. Some of the retrograde action of the last decade might have seen Saturn or Pluto as guilty but wasn’t – it was a retrograde or linked back to the Venus star pattern – observations I… Read more »

Skarab

I’ve heard you mention tracking Venus before, funnily enough around the same time when i was paying more attention to her (she’s my chart ruler too) But i must admit i only tended to remember when my creative juices were being stimulated or having particularly enjoyable experiences; or when spending money on beauty & art didn’t bring on the guilts. However, your words sent me trawling through my diaries & legal documents & lo & behold, when the sneaky & illegal Royal Decree was passed through by the government, Venus was in Capricorn & exactly opposite my Sun (Pluto was… Read more »

Skarab

AAAAND for more Venusian action, when i was actually fined which was just over 2 yrs after the illegal decree was passed, Venus was conjunct natal Saturn in Cap (while trans Merc-Pluto in Cap were opposite my Sun) ….all exact….. sheesh.

Centaurus

I don’t recall Venus as your chart ruler. This changes everything. Yes, watch beyond those themes. Could be quite illuminating. Venus direct station yesterday.

I’d count 4° for Pluto, particularly with the Sun and check Mars – what you will defend – given the 2 and a bit years.

Holy fuckaroomy – hehe love this!

Skarab

My Leo Mars has been trine Eris (under 1ºorb) for years & it doesn’t take much tinder to light my fire. Funnily enough, trans Mars was ON natal Saturn at the time of the ruling. Probably why i’m still seething & feel like doing something painful to the mofos responsible.

Centaurus

Transit Mars Saturn doesn’t surprise me. Lol Mars Eris comment…is a taming of fire over a sustained period whilst keeping it from going out or running rampant no doubt.

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Calcifer

Venus/Aphrodite is also a goddess of war, according to Liz Greene… And can be ruthless indeed ⚔️

Centaurus

Yes she is definitely that in antiquity. Hera, Aphrodite and the trojan war. I’m personally a bit loose on this interp though as I see those themes as indirect or having roots in other reasons eg as a protector of love, a lucky or victorious symbol to bear on a shield, a prize to be fought over or the polarising outcomes of love gone sour and jealousy. That said I do respect Liz Greene and value her work 🙂

Calcifer

Hi Centaurus, nice to hear from you!
As I understand it, the mythic Aphrodite wants what she wants and will go to great lengths to attract it / make it happen. She is quite egocentric and focused on her own pleasure…

Centaurus

Yes she is. All the gods do such a great job of illustrating low and high characteristics dont you think 😀
I don’t disagree with that at all – I just don’t see Venus archetype as Goddess of war in her own right as it’s not the motivator even if say.. winning is. The drivers are more as you state.

Always nice to to chat with you Calcifer 😊

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Calcifer

Returning the compliment, Centaurus! 🌞

Centaurus

xx 😊

Chrysalis

I remember some of this too, Skarab – kudos to you, so pleased for you. xx

Skarab

Thank you all for your support. Can’t believe those of you who remember my bitching about it at the time – it’s been so long! I must of been rampant🙄. It’s just that while the government was nailing small fry innocent people, it was actually at the same time granting amnesty to massive fuqers who had pilfered and swindled millions. It also transpires that the king himself was embroiled in huge scams at the time with his mistress, who’s since turned on him and spilled some beans, so he’s had to abdicate in favor of his son and now he’s virtually… Read more »

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Invicta

Ah you’re in Spain!

Skarab

Si.

Invicta

The woman who was the kings mistress was the ex wife of a guy I dated for almost a decade. She was this impossible ideal I would never live up to and he was still so in love with her. When I saw the articles about it all I had that PHEW “dodged a bullet” shudder in gratitude to my 20 something self. Walking away from people like that was one of the smartest things I ever did. At the time it felt like a huge loss to be dropping out of the circle socially and romantically. I was hugely… Read more »

Invicta

And how interesting that the timings of those peoples shady shenanigans surfaced at exactly the same time as I got my funny old broken down house. That was in many ways the beginning of my real life (is how it feels) I remember being in a homeless shelter and chatting to Centauris and I think you Skarab and someone else who’s name has changed about the north node south node switchover of the railway tracks. Something I still don’t understand the theory of but it’s practical application seems to have taken okay. It was a terrifying, harrowing time which I… Read more »

Centaurus

I remember Invicta. It was quite a journey for you but look how you’ve phoenixed. Kudos to you. The SN and NN are one of my favourite aspects to explore in a chart. By switch over do you mean the SN was transiting the NN and vice versa? I imagine it allows a different glimpse into the set and forget approach that can happen with SN to have a NN focus and also a way to extract the things still of use in the now from the SN. Michael Lutin describes the nodes as the bottle and the meeting. I… Read more »

Skarab

i think Invicta means that the NN & SN switch places if you were born in the Southern Hemisphere, according to Mystic’s theory. Maybe you missed that post? Should check it out: “Announcing My New Takes On 21st Astrology – Part One”

Centaurus

Yep !! Forgot about that idea and haven’t given it a thought in yonks. Will revisit.

Invicta

No not that. It’s a transit related thing. Will see if I can find the language

Invicta

I eventually found a way to understand that post and the idea M was sharing. At first it confused me mightily but I see it as an axis now with a gravitational force or similar, like a see saw holding two hemispheres of the brain together.

Invicta

The south node was transiting the NN and vice versa yes.

Skarab

Oops, Centaurus was right then.
Yeah, i loved Mystic’s take on the Nodes, it made more sense to me than any of the other explanations i’ve read.

Centaurus

Haha we can implicate Mercury retro. Maybe cold too…but happy new digs too xx

Centaurus

It’s still the lunar nodes right… lunar language is of the subconscious and not always a clear mission statement lol. Definitely about holding both energies imo not pulling more toward one or the other…what I’m thinking of writing is the future and once I’ve typed and posted it’s past. We’re always holding both. Its how we hold an energy and even that isn’t a static approach. I see it as constantly moving even when it’s appearance is fixed…I mean is it really or is that a perception? No energy is ever fixed – it’s always moving and what was or… Read more »

Invicta

This is insanely cool and you’re so casually dropping it but it makes my brain explode every time I read it. I kind of understand bits of it.
I think 🧐

Invicta

Lols. Last paragraph went so far over my head I laughed it off. Bottle? Meeting? I dare say you might? will Google Michael lutin. but yes. Exactly. It was a small but distinct window of opportunity for me to climb out of my life and switch a few crucial things around and get them in alignment with my values. None of the decisions were logical or well thought through or even conscious and I was very afraid I wouldn’t get it done in time. I went beyond the usual hubris of hoping for the best and had the chance to… Read more »

Centaurus

The surface v the substance of a thing or person.

Skarab

I do remember part of your trajectory from what seems another life. I have much to say but not gonna waste time discussing these privileged chancers, as i am in the middle of moving AGAIN & am exhausted, cold (power company got the dates wrong) & surrounded by boxes. Sorely tempted to start burning our belongings to keep warm. So anyway, all i will say is count your many blessings because you’ve come a long way, Invicta. xx

Invicta

I can 💯 relate to that. Pluto squares my ascendant and I’ve been burning bridges all my life to keep warm

Invicta

I still have to watch my tendency to sneakily get rid of stuff. I hate to hold onto anything but it’s a quality I so admire in others. The ability to curate and maintain things of the earth (even if they don’t feel like they relate to who you are currently) is wonderfully Capricorn and grown up. I’m childishly brutal and always tearing things down and pulling them out at the root. Its highly compulsive behaviour and I suspect it will always be a part of my creative process. Fortunately I have friends who live more conservatively to temper my… Read more »

Invicta

Thank you. And I hope you find home comfort asap and get to unpack your boxes and really enjoy the nesting experience of your new place.

Skarab

Thank you! Power is now on, it is a light and airy place & i can hear the seagulls laugh. It is on my Moon/MC line & feels like home.

Centaurus

Remembering is a kind of validation and an honoring to the journeys shared.

I think we’ve all been a bit rampant at different times – nothing like a hard transit meeting injustice as a catalyst.

Pluto in Capricorn and the broader strokes of redefining power balances and the structures that hold them. Sounds like it’s all been played out in the realm of kings and politics like a modern era GoT. No doubt religion has played it’s part as well. Yes – sometimes there is justice!

Pegasus

Can i tell you about the joys of isolation? About not having lovers anymore. The liberation, the ability to totally self actualise & contentment it brings. Of not putting yourself out there. Where Tinder is not part of your reality. Such ‘toss away’ relationships of now you see it now you don’t. Have seen 3 wonderful relationships in my entire life, when you know the energy of those 2 x 3 align in every way. Of the 3 couples, 2 of them worked side by side 24/7. The other couple were in complimentary professions. The ‘opposites attract’ thing often doesn’t… Read more »

Pegasus

12th house Venus in Capricorn as an explanation = fantasy lovers. Add Cap rising =never settle for less.

Narelle

I have Venus in Leo in the 12th-I actually have a Leo 12th house stellium.
I have spent most of my life single amd most of my dating life in long distance relationships or relationships where we see each other only a few times a week at most. Never married or cohabited

Scorpleocap

A wise post and a pleasure to read as always, Pegs. I have been feeling this too, actually. For the first time in a long time I’m genuinely not interested at all in any form of romantic relationship/dating, and you’re right, it really is so liberating! I’m not sure if it’s due to the transit in my case (I’m a cap moon) or due to being incessantly stalked for the past 6 months since ending my last relationship (it’s sure been a journey!), but I’m genuinely loving being single. The “process of elimination” relationships…oh how that resonates! I’ve also done… Read more »

Invicta

Aye.
sighs wistfully

Invicta

As much appeal as the couple idea will always hold, I only ever feel like I’m being my genuine, authentic self when I’m single. I wasn’t given the blueprints for functional romantic behaviour and as much as I try to positive think and reprogram my way out of it, life is unquestionably more stable and honest without the sexual and emotional neural hijacking that happens. I’ve never been able to see the objects of my affection as clearly during as I do after. It wouldn’t matter if they didn’t wreak such carnage. Beyond any tragic cliches however, I’m enjoying living… Read more »

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5thHouseCap

So, so interesting to hear your perspective, Invicta. I am the converse. I live my natal birth chart’s highest energies when I DO have a partner. I take chances on adventures (Sun sq Mars), express my funny mom caring+cool side (loaded 5th House, incl moon), experience ethereal luxury and art (Nep+Jup+Venus conj in Cap). Most of my single life has been self destructive or lazily indulgent, but I am now trying to actively change that post a series of outer transits to personal planets. Though I would agree that I see my partners in clear light only after its over,… Read more »

Invicta

Pisces IC here and Neptune in the 4th which is in exactly the same place. That’s an interesting reversal of fortunes we share. I’m trying to change my patterns too and definitely feel I might be veering in the other direction now. I’m stuck and going nowhere in my single life. The thought of being in a romantic relationship is something terrifying tho.

Centaurus

Relatable – the long distance lover and the disinterest in the dance of veils (of truth) to discern something more enduring. Amused by the online versions of this tbh as it’s infinitely harder to see through veils when the energy of another isn’t able to be felt in it’s own right -not coupled with wifi rays, many projections and edits. None of the games appeal, they never did but even less so in these times. Values have shifted. Clarity has been distilled to it’s pure essence. That ground won’t be given away – not negotiable. Venus Cap does not settle… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

“Values have shifted. Clarity has been distilled to it’s pure essence. That ground won’t be given away – not negotiable”.

Beautifully said and very inspiring.

emg

Oooooh I can relate. I’m craving my time. Simply to be me and not have to create the facade or win the Oscar every day. Or make sure everyone else is functional. I’m longing for a longer period of isolation and space. Actually it’s what I need most currently. Lots heading into my 12th. Hermit days are a coming and I feel very open to them.

Centaurus

I would happily have more space myself these days and snatch every opportunity to do so unapologetically.

Wish Upon a Star

I am realising that it is ok being self contained and reliant. This is a huge realisation and writing it down is gold. People in the past have tried to make this an issue for me. But now I realise it is their issue and there was always an ulterior motive involved. God Damn. What a fantastic Jupiter on my Ascendant transit this has been, still is I think. I want to invest my energy in getting my finances in order and doing the things I want to do for myself. I want to really get into yoga, Learn more… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

I also feel the need to simply be me and not create the facade. I’m glad I came across this comment as it expresses emotions that are stirring but I did not know how to express. These stirrings happen a lot and I mostly let them fall away. I now understand what I am doing and will write these thoughts down in a journal. Thanks emg I am thinking out loud now as I need to make a point of this to myself. I have just gotten rid of a group of friends that was no good for me. And… Read more »

amaranthisme

Absolutely feeling this. How do I invoice an Aquarian male for accidentally making me his friend instead of his anticipated lover ?

Pegasus

Aquas make EXCELLENT friends i’ve found, not sure about lovers though, you may have missed a bullet?

Clavdia C

Venus R has been hovering near a trine with my natal Venus and square my natal Pluto. Been tough but productive—not so much w the exes (though the “sundries” made me lol) as with myself. Realizing for hundredth time that I put too much E into fretting about romantic connections. But working hard w my therapist on it, reading articles about love with non attachment. All About Love by bell hooks is tying it up and putting words to churning glimpses of clarity. She distinguishes between “cathecting,” investing emotionally in a person, and love, the verb of wanting to help… Read more »

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Invicta

I can relate.

Sam

Well, the therapy is certainly helping.

scorpiodawn

wish i could afford it, i would so have it

Sam

It can be an expense yes. Skipped it for a long time for that reason too x

5thHouseCap

Try online versions, if they work out a little cheaper? Some home insurances have 10 therapy sessions built in. I am not saying conmit insurance fraud, but commit insurance fraud and get access to therapy if you really, really need it. Huge hugs!

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Lize

This post -esp the graphic- made me laugh out loud- cheers Mystic!!! Is ridic accurate as always: last week I went interstate and had an ex flame (from 27 years ago wooo- that I’ve kept contact with as friend) wanting to occupy every minute at one point I actually hid & only this morning laserbeamed my son’s Dad (also ex by 7 years, also solid friend but aka the cul de sac) via.text at 6am for well, ahem, everything! Holy cow-it was highly unusual- no font unturned! When does Venus ‘gardening’ fin?

Clavdia C

Ha! Yes. LOVE the graphic

Centaurus

Yes I’d like to invoice – retrospectively and current. Perhaps even futuristically – this time line and all time lines that have, or will, intersect with this one. Factors under consideration- standard rate / universal payment terms / interstellar invoicing postage costs amongst others.

Native Venus Cap. Transit Venus conjunct Mars 8. Transit Uranus trine Mars.

Pegasus

Venus Cap in 12th. Lovers look more appealing in movies and in my imagination than in day to day life.
Invoice the exes for my time and attention? …fuqing you bet!

Centaurus

My Neptune 7 can relate Pegs and Venus is 8. My comments said more satirically than seriously though as several have come back via th SN/Sun portal there are grains of truth and perhaps the invoices have been written and paid. But – the extra time and attention coupled with a lack of integrity (another Venus Cap trait imo) um – yeah and make it weekend rates 😉 Venus Cap would invoice more broadly too don’t you think but not indiscriminately. Discerning and measured. Second rate service for a suboptimal product as one example where I’d easily flip the invoicing… Read more »

5thHouseCap

Hahahahaha! I want you in my corner if I ever get a second divorce. 🤣🤣🤣

Centaurus

LOL. I think I can thank my Cap Mars 8 for the detatched view and air of ruthlessness. It still mystifies me at times as my nature is very warm and compassionate mostly but if circumstances demand I can flip to tactics with ease.

surlatable

Rechecked my progressed chart,oh right moon in capricorn. It will be matched up with pluto when I have my chiron return. All the people who “talk to their spirit guides” tell them to tell mine it’s not funny anymore.

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GalaxyHiker

One ex- whose North Node was at these sensitive degrees did not get back in touch (caveat: there’s still the shadow zone after the retrograde). Since there was zero contact over the holidays, which are known ‘reach your ex’ times, I’m assured the nails remained in that coffin. I did hide out to get much-needed rest over the holidays instead of avoiding paramours; I was too drained to avoid! Another ex- got back in touch and wants to work things out. This one isn’t at all skeevy as the first one. He was lovely, but I guess this time is… Read more »

scorpiodawn

where do i fuquing well start…dumped before christmas, ghosted two wks ago, discussing possible dom/sub set up…no no no, its off to slaa i go….

Pegasus

So many more around deserving of your time & energy. ‘Babies to kiss hands to shake money to make’ is your new mantra.
Ghosting is disgusting immature discourteous behaviour, hope they get spooked!

scorpiodawn

thanks Pegasus x

april

Is this why I keep visiting & revisiting my fashion/style?! Ugh. Help, my wallet is dying.

Damndspot

Transit Venus conjunct my Saturn and transit Saturn conjunct my Venus right now… do I win a prize??*

*Saturn’s response: YES! More cardio, more vegetables, more therapy! lol

5thHouseCap

I honestly envy you. No shade.

Damndspot

Thank you for saying that—makes me
hope that my isolation and work might bring me somewhere good eventually. Right now it is a slog!

5thHouseCap

Life is at its most beautiful in those periods of intense concentration, when reality disappears in that particular moment – ‘the flow state’. In our post-pandemic scatterbrained world, what you have is golden. Cherish it, instead of considering it onerous. 🙂

Damndspot

this is lovely!! The mindset I will try to get into! <3

Invicta

Hells yeah. Saturn Venus is the most brilliant combination. I’m just coming out of a year long Venus conjunct Saturn transit. It is the definitive LZ cure.

Damndspot

Re: LV–Saturn walked up to my Venus and went retro when the love of my life and I broke up in May (Saturn in exact square his moon!). He wanted to try again in Oct. We love each other but I am an addict in recovery, he no longer is in recovery. He pulled things together through Nov but by Dec things went bad. In the past I would have stayed, but this time I said goodbye, with love. No contact. No internet stalking. No going to our shared haunts. Nothing left to say. I cry about it every night,… Read more »

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Invicta

Eish Damnspot, that’s painful. All that crying is deep healing though. It’s a cliché now because it’s true. You can’t heal what you don’t feel.
As someone who habitually, involuntarily numbs out all the time I am honestly a tiny little bit envious. Only a bc I get that it’s hard. At least you are tangibly releasing that grief. Held inside, besides all the unconscious destructive acting out it causes that stuff rots you from the inside. Better out than in sweet. ❤️

Damndspot

Thank you for your responses! It has been so hard and so painful but you’re right–it means I’m alive and I’m feeling, and there is something precious about that. Numb was my very favorite way to be for so long (not involuntarily for me, quite voluntary), so this is all new to me. I’m sorry you struggle too, but know that I so appreciate your thoughtful words to me today <3

Invicta

I kind of miss my life being so vivid. I remember feeling like that and obviously I don’t **really** miss it but I wish I could feel that degree of intensity without being triggered.

Like instead of it being painful and intense couldn’t I get heroines journey vibes and that level of clarity around other choices in life?

Cecemesee

Venus Rx is such a vibe for me, I’ve had more progress and fertile thoughts during this period and I’m leveraging off it!!
Venus Rx in my chart (12th house) sees every extreme of relationship, usually RomCom type meets (cloud parts to see the sunshine before an intense meet-cute) on steroids then nothing lol.
If it’s debt collection time on energy lost to time/energy suckage from dysfunctional relationships, everyone I’ve ever met and had a connection with should be scared haha 😂

Stella

Hey, this is pure eloquence:

“…You don’t want closure: you’d like to invoice – for the time, seduction money, cul de sacs presented as freeways, rigor-rictus from bright smiles when your psyche was resisting and well, a hefty ‘sundries’…”

Straight up vibes right now.

surlatable

“i love you”

“you keep using that word.I do not think it means what you think it means.” –Inigo Montoya

whitewave

Mmm Hmmm to invoicing! Put paid to all that bullshit! What does it mean for new relationships? I’m a Leo phoenixing from the last relationship, I have a great solicitor helping me with the invoicing. In the meantime, I met a Cap man on the Dec 19 full moon. I was walking my dog, he was at his car in his sports gear, I said hi to be polite, and I asked if he won his game. We got talking, he asked me if I’d like to catch up (we’d both sworn off Tinder), and we had a drink that… Read more »

Damndspot

I love this. Giving me hope!

whitewave

Did you read the part where I’m a Leo woman and he’s a Cap man? 🙃 I’m patiently cleaning and decluttering while waiting for Venus and Mercury to turn direct.

cynthia

Leo/Cap – that struck me. They are signs in quincunx to each other. I find a quincunx an awakening aspect, like through its being an irritating disjunction. Just checking in on my natal Leo Pluto quincunxing transiting Pluto in Cap. This ain’t no power trip at the moment but yet it is, as well being as a battleground. Thanks for the grist (Leo/Cap) for my mill. Maybe my invoice is for me – my losses and gains on the battlefield with Uncle Pluto.

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whitewave

Thanks Cynthia, that’s interesting to know about the quincunx. Awakening is definitely some kind of vibe here. But as you observe about the invoicing being to yourself, perhaps my random meeting was to initiate an awakening in myself. Learning so much from the interaction – not about him, but my own responses, realising I’ve been conditioned to expect love bombing, and to learn patience. Having a look at Mystic’s latest updates and all the recent scopes for Leo, Gemini (my rising), and Cap, I’ve got a much better perspective and some valuable guidance. I don’t know his rising. He’s on… Read more »

whitewave

Note…. This was also the day Venus went retrograde!

JacQui

March the 3rd is Pluto, Venus and Mars conjunction AND my North Node return plus lots of natal transits eg Juno AC, Hekate IC… watch this space
?? is young Rob Lowe adorable

Scorpleocap

Can Venus’ influence be extended to other connections such as friendships? Suddenly been feeling super angsty about a particular friendship and the amount of time/energy that is getting zapped by it. Which sounds like such a horrible thing to say. But, that’s how I feel. Ready to send an invoice, basically! And wondering why I’m in such a bitch mood.

Could Venus in Cap be less Dionysian and more about getting our schizz together re how we relate to others?!

Wish Upon a Star

I am feeling the same big time with friendships. So I am slowly but surely withdrawing energy.

You are in a bitch mood because you are getting no return on investement. It’s blunt but it’s true imo.

And thanks for confirming what I am feeling.

Scorpleocap

Thanks, Wish! Oh it’s good to see I’m not alone.

Wish Upon a Star

You are not alone.

GalaxyHiker

Sure, Scorp! Venus can also point to our sense of self worth and what we value, leading to how we feel about we give to various exchanges.

Scorpleocap

Thanks, Galaxy! That’s so how it feels, especially regarding values.

Irenna

Yep, I just dumped a group of friends last week that I’ve been apart of since 2020. Didn’t expect this Venus RX to be so dramatic for me (usually Venus RX in Leo are historically the most kooky ones)

Scorpleocap

Some transits are unexpectedly dramatic, aren’t they! Hoping for positive new connections for you.

Wish Upon a Star

Yes I agree it is dramatic. But it doesn’t mean your withdrawal has to be dramatic. For me anyway. I just prefer to fade out. Maybe it’s my Pisces Rising speaking.

Scorpleocap

Pisces Rising! Didn’t know that, Wish. What’s your sun sign again? The friend I’m having issues with is Pisces rising. I’m thinking of doing a bit of a fade out…

Wish Upon a Star

My sun is in Gemini and moon in Taurus. And in saying that I now realise and understand why this Venus retrograde is having such an impact on me.

isa

I’m feeling very estranged from one particular female friend. finally realized that she doesn’t get me. I wonder if she ever understood me at all. or if she makes an effort to put herself in other people’s shoes. I’m not let down, just doubting my feelings, meaning, I thought the world about her but was I dreaming? or seeing things about her that were never there? bah… she’s aqua with venus in capricorn btw.

Narelle

I’m a Leo with Virgo rising and a lot of astrology talks about Virgo doing Virgo rescue relationships. I have been like that.
I actually find Aquarius very hard to form genuine relationships with, as they are known to be detached anyway, but I also find them flaky. They are definitely polarising

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Scorpleocap

That’s interesting, Narelle. Virgo north node here (and Saturn) and can relate to that rescue relationship thing.

isa

yeah, I agree. 99% of aqua people give me the creeps = my scorpio values are quite strong, but I do get along with aqua women (they like the fact that I like their weirdness). men, no chance ever. I find that in their own way they are genuine, yet they are often embarrassingly out of touch with your own reality, in spite of having known you for ages.

Scorpleocap

Sounds a bit similar. Sometimes it can take awhile to see things as they really are for a number of reasons. Don’t beat yourself up. Here’s to friendships where they CAN put themselves in other people’s shoes.

isa

thank you <3

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

HAHAHA THIS: you’d like to invoice – for the time, seduction money, cul de sacs presented as freeways, rigor-rictus from bright smiles when your psyche was resisting and well, a hefty ‘sundries.’

5thHouseCap

I would spend more money invoicing, than getting anything back from my effin karmic past. Write it all off as bad debts and restructure the ownership of future rights.

5thHouseCap

Just as MM published this, started getting dreams about exes, now two nights in a row. The dreams are as different as the men themselves, but the common theme has been me realizing how unsuitable they all have been – in reality and in dreams. Bad debts, alright. Good to know that my inner accountant agrees with the outer one.

Is there any hope for Virgo risings powering up to their true potential AND finding an equal, loving partner in this incarnation?

Aqualeo

I’d like to invoice Pluto. Big time. For the insomnia, near death and death of everything I love, trauma that’s taking years to heal. And now looking forward to the opposition of my Sun/Uranus. I’m gonna be rich.

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