At What Age Should You Stop Factoring In “Great Sex?”

At her Uranus Opposition, Hormonal Sea-Goat asks a poignant question. At what age or during what transit should you stop factoring in great sex?

Dear Mystic and Mystic Followers,

At what age, stage, or transit should you take “great sex” out of an equation? I ask because i am closer to Uranus Opposition than Saturn Return and i am about to have Saturn roll over my multiple Capricorn Sun, Moon and planets. I know enough to understand that this is going to demand maturity on my part and yes I have read every single post on Saturn here. Seriously, I am on board with Saturn values. 

However, after a hiatus between relationships, I have recently taken up with someone who probably does not fit the Saturn template. He IS sane and solvent but we have nothing in common, no conversation that does not bore me and presumably him as well, completely different political values and well, he is like a Luddite with computers – he opens his snail mail with a hunting knife, and i am a vegetarian who works in mechatronics. You get the idea.

Uranus Opposition And Life-Affirming Great Sex

But the sex is life-affirmingly beyond belief incredible. I am reasonably sure that this copulation experience is worth ten thousand times every single treatment or healing I have ever had. I have a new hormone system operating thanks to this man or it sure as fuq feels like it. My doctor asked me what I was doing as my cholesterol and blood sugars were WAY down, and all the good things way up.  I no longer need to wear make-up, my shitty knee fixed itself, i have a fantastic sleep.

But i am i living in a fool’s paradise? I can introduce this person to none of my friends – they are left-wing, and he is like a right-wing conspiracy nut. I would never live with him – he is a hoarder and collects technological relics. Should I get out of this before Saturn gets to Capricorn and think about someone more suitable?  Or as he is Taurus (I know, I know) can i assume that Uranus into Taurus might make him different? Can you change a Taurus?

Hormonal Sea Goat.

Uranus Opposition Often Equals An Unconventional – For You – Affair And Well, He’s Perfect!

Dear Hormonal Sea-Goat,

Factoring it out of the equation entirely? Never. Saturn does have a lusty angle to it, you know – think of Pan and Dionysus. They’re an aspect of Saturn. And Capricorn IS an Earth sign. It’s not all cerebral. There is a Saturnine tone to the idea of just pragmatically prioritizing your real physical needs and spreading the other desires around your broader friendship circles.

It brings up an age-old question that is probably perfectly evident in ancient scrolls excavated from old temples and so on; can you have it all? Can you get it all in one relationship? Or is that Madonna-Whore schism just hard-wired into humanity, regardless of the gender or the relationship themes?  The psychotherapist Esther Perel explores this theme brilliantly in Mating In Captivity.

Can Mars-Venus Hormonal Heat Last The Distance?

Also, what is the Taurus Luddite’s opinion of this? Does he think you are Ishtar reincarnated and he is already secretly studying treatises from your side of the cultural-political spectrum to find more common cognitive ground with you? Or is he compartmentalizing you/this thing as a “great root,” as we say in Australia?

The Conventional wisdom is that a Mars-Venus sex-based affinity cannot last the distance. If you want a significant, enduring relationship, there need to be other factors in play – strong Mercurial rapport, shared values (which is very Jupiter), comfort and ease together when not hard-at-it generating new forms of alien pheromones. Could this be wrong? Could Uranus in Taurus help to bring about new arrangements?

But with Saturn influencing a heap of your natal astral energies, yes you will no doubt desire a growth alliance. Can this deliver it? If great sex is ALL this is going to be, and there is no joining together to form a greater-than-your-parts whole, will it satisfy you under the steely lilac rays of Saturn? Or was it more of a Uranus Opposition blow out?

Now i have raised more questions than i have answered – what does everyone else think?

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A'NLEIFR

I am curiously watching this one, since we are getting ready to enter Uranus in Taurus, can the poster update us on this?

Sally Wilde

This is the relationship I’m leaving. Got all the benefits, but the right-wing conspiracy and hoarder shite drove me around the bend.

Taryn Tantra

It’s sex. It’s great.
Park this in you “Alive Today’ basket until it’s ..dead!

Seriously, having been there done that with a view to romance I can tell you from experience & teaching others – don’t make a relationship dingy anchorered out of a sexual luxury yatcht moment!

We’ve come too far to base our primal needs on a long term prospect.

Take him deeply and with passion! Get pregnant even – have a baby If that’s a desire and if he’s submitting…

There you go; that’s today’s woman – empowered.

Taryn Tantra

..should add; have cap rising was whacked by Pluto when I had these experiences… so you can cap-Italise big time especially when and Uranus goes awol in juicy sensual Taurus. Enjoy!

Chrysalis

Wow what a brilliant thread, so much wisdom and experience here.
I’m assuming you don’t know his rising or other placements, HSG? It would be good to get an idea of his Mars/Venus/Moon…
Anyway here’s my take.
His Toro will be pinging your Cap which is currently enhanced by Pluto in Cap and all the Virgo planets.. and you are having wonderful, earthy, healing sex. Fantastic! Toros, all the appetites – they can teach the rest of us about properly inhabiting our bodies. The transformative aspects of this suggest Pluto or Chiron could be involved – what house is your Cap stuff?
I wonder if with so much Cap you are also hardwired to have half an eye on the future and ‘ticking all the boxes’. Perhaps you are being shown another kind of relationship, another dimension of yourself is waking up, and some of your ‘givens’ are now up for negotiation. Sounds like Uranus in the mix too!
Interesting that in our culture we are conditioned to be suspicious of great sex and put it lower down the list.
I married a man who ticked all the boxes except for, ah, that one. Surprise surprise, it ended horribly and the stuff that was missing in the beginning was the reason we ended. I guess that can apply to other values also. Someone once told me that a Saturn transit often manifests as a hard choice – you want both things and making the choice either way would cause pain and sadness. But making the choice is the only way you can more finely hone your true needs/self/desires.
It may be too early to call. Whatever happens it’s going to play out the way it will play out. Settle back, enjoy the experience and let the universe figure it out. x

12th House Virgo

Sage advice!

VenusianVirgo

Im following this whole discussion intensley, but what you said Chrysalis just struck a cord with me. I am in a relationship that has no Mars-Venus chemistry and I am a Venusian woman. Venus conjunct ascendant in Libra. I also have Moon in Aries, and strong Mars squares. I have no trouble pursuing or going after who I want.

I love love love sex, this guy has Saturn square Mars and had a lot of sexual issues when we first got together. Pretty much the first year I was infuriated sexually 24/7. But I stuck with it as I felt at home with him- our Moons are conjunct.

Most issues have sorted themselves out now, and sex has been amazing (His Mars is in Scorpio afterall) but sometimes the attraction is so OFF. And I am very finicky about who I give myself to- I am a triple Virgo- Sun/Merc/Jupiter- as well. He has Venus in Virgo. Good for our shared values, but yuk for him being able to flirt or doing anything remotely appealing to my airy Venus.

But as a couple we work, we trust each other, he had opened my life up and for the first time ever I feel comfortable and myself. I 110% want it to work.

I have Saturn coming up to square my Moon and Venus… I am so fricken afraid. What do you think? A psychic also gave me bad news in a reading- heartbreak.

But can you have it both? Sex and love? Maybe I feel i have to choose as my Venus is opposite my Moon.

Advice please!!

Chrysalis

Sounds like our situs were a bit different…my ex-hub was Neptune rising in Scorp, so who knows if I ever really knew the real him. He had Mars in Cancer (lo not haute – pass-agg to the max) and like me, Venus in Aqua. He had issues deep and troubling way beyond what I could deal with. I suppose the troubles began about sex but ended up being a clusterfuq of mistrust and dislike and the weight of so much unspoken. He was unwilling to even discuss my real pain at so much rejection, and worse, he hooked into my insecurities as a way to control me. I actually think he got off on turning me away, on my pain. It was controlling and abusive and nothing like the lovely relationship you describe.

The only advice I’d feel qualified to give you is ‘don’t listen to the psychic’ – I’ve paid a fortune to them over the years and never has a single thing played out as they said it would 🙂

Saturn square Mars would, I imagine, be someone who has learned the benefits of a applying a fantastic work ethic, and he has applied this to your relationship too. That’s brave and wonderful. You trust him, he’s opened your life up…it sounds pretty good from what you’ve described.

VenusianVirgo

That’s nice to hear, and exactly what I have decided with the psychic scenario. People can be wrong, and besides life is in my own hands.

I think your right about Mars square Saturn. Although at first it was like trying to love someone who was cold as ice, and just a WALL.. Afer working on it, he has relaxed considerably. Now I am seeing the work ethic and how composed he is as such a positive. Always reliable, and he does apply this to our relationship. Thanks for the reply!

marsbar

Well unless they spelled it out, “heartbreak” can be just about anything..like finding out he is a Lakers fan when you are a Spurs fan sort of thing too. It doesn’t always mean break up. Give the relationship your best shot and hope for the best!

Sam

“I wonder if with so much Cap you are also hardwired to have half an eye on the future and ‘ticking all the boxes’. Perhaps you are being shown another kind of relationship, another dimension of yourself is waking up, and some of your ‘givens’ are now up for negotiation.”

This so much right now!

I’m glad you commented, xhrysalis – was wondering what you were thinking with the triple Toro and all.

Chrysalis

OMG the Triple Toro is a lot like HSG’s guy.
In my situ he has money issues (Mars in 2nd opp Neptune in 8th), a hoarder, politically not on the same page. But I really like him and the bedwork is fabulous. My friends like him, as long as we steer clear of politics lol
We are still together, I am still trying to figure it out. I don’t want to make a wrong decision. Part of my problem is that I yearn for something more creative, more romantic, where we talk about ideas instead of fulfilling appetites. Yet at post-Chiron return I don’t know if it’s naive to want ‘romance’ or whatever. Perhaps I am still in the wake of Neptune fuqing up my Venus and sun for the past aeon. My IRL friends in whom I confide tell me that those feelings are for the young. Perhaps what I have with Triple Toro is good for me in some ways, and I should seek the other things from different people – maybe I need to join a band or sing again or start a blog or some other creative outlet.
I have wondered what it is realistic to expect, post-50. I’m old enough to know you can’t have every need met by one person. I feel washed up, to be honest with you, like I don’t even know where to begin loving someone again. It’s embarrassing. I feel like my heart just stopped back then and I can’t wake it up. Meanwhile there is this really good guy looking at me wondering what the hell is wrong with me, and considering his options.
I really liked what davidl had to say earlier in the thread, actually. It gave me some heart.
Wow this has turned into a long response. Gem NN banging on, overthinking lol xx

Sam

You are not banging on. Take it from a gem rising Sun mercury person, haha
I completely understand about the need to talk about ideas. There’s only so much of the mundane and small world personal I can hack before my brain starts looking for gaps in the fence seeking greener pastures. I think it’s why I find higher ed so satisfying. And on the short occcasions where I dated (or hey! Just hang out with) men who are on the same page intellectually /conceptually (like with anyone we have common ground with i guess), I initially do a double take because I’m just not used to it hahaha

Sam

This isn’t snobbery, by the way, some ppl seek a mutual love of fetish gear and studded vinyl, others look for whatever , an interestingly stocked bookshelf or something.

Chrysalis

I reckon your 9th house sun needs a smart guy, Pi…staying up ’til 3am talking about important stuff. Clever banter.
My first love was a bloke I stayed up all night talking to. Left at 6am and walked home, buzzing on convo and coffee. A quadruple Gem.
it’s not that the Triple Toro isn’t smart – he’s postgrad qualified, street smart, and he reads people better than anyone I know. I just miss a more spiritual/creative/intellectual connection.
It was great when it was about eating and drinking. I’m moving away from that towards a simpler and cleaner life. I ditched the Blue Devil weeks ago and haven’t looked back.
Sheesh I could say loads more. Really I need to woman up and get honest with him and myself.

Sam

tough call. it’s hard to know at what point we get our fix from outside the relationship vs desiring it from the partner.

JillLoftis

Or maybe there should be a dating service for those of us with sun in the Eighth House.

JillLoftis

Never never never never.

Never.

Catherine Cox

I think the Uranus live transit tends to be what the hell am I doing but doing it anyway

Sam

Question for the question: all the comments above are like “sex whenevs” ok cool, but I was just wondering if it might actually be a personally significant Chiron transit that significantly muffles libido? If one is sensitive to existential stuff? Or Neptune transit? (Nothing is real). Maybe that depends on availability of sex I.e. if one is already in a relationship or not. I just think that the yin factor of Chiron isn’t exactly the kind of vibe for heading out on the pull

dark star

There’s a mystic article I remember on Neptune transits trending somewhat dry spell..you’re too delicate psychically to disassociate during sex or it has to be soulful so finding a rando on tinder will not work always? And Chiron has been trans the same area recently

quintile

neptune transits can lead to confusion and delusion in relationships – high neptune aspects can be mystical but low can be very delusional.

Sam

so true about Neptune!!! Hahaha / argh
I have come to believe the key with Neptune is to take absolute and all encompassing, embodied cosmic responsibility for everything we say, do and feel. If we are a universe unto ourselves projecting outwardly, this is the deal maybe? I’m saying this in the context of how much I now value a practice of “acceptance” in giving me new degrees of both emotional freedom and the capacity to love freely without … expectation? . Not sure. In this way we can take the universe into ourselves. If that makes sense? Saying “s/he made me feel X” etc is a big sign to look within at whose lap we are dropping our hopes, fears and expectations into. It’s not nec a bad thing, until we don’t get that thing we want and have not quite stripped back to the chassis to understand how it’s built.. Only we can fix ourselves. Maybe with the help of paid professionals hahaha
(Maybe my aqua mars or Uranus in scorp holds more sway than I thought? All this talk of freedom now lol.)

marsbar

Ha! You just reminded me of the controversy with that “look what you made me do” taylor swift song. Because those are the words of a narcissist or abuser potentially. No one can make you do anything.

marsbar

So do you love this guy? If you do, I am not sure it shows in this post. And does he love you? We know very little about this man except superficial stuff and that he is a Toro. Because ultimately this is one of the things that decides if you will last or not. I knew of a couple who had the worst synastry i had ever seen. Totally different interests and personalities. I don’t know how one would even get together except it was arranged. They lasted 10 yrs together! Because they were determined to! But as soon as one gave up, the whole thing turned sideways. So how you both feel for each other trumps astrology any day of the week. I have met men with amazing synastry that didnt even manage a first date.

I say enjoy your wild bed chemistry, but don’t count on it working out. I have seen all sorts of “rock solid marriages” fail this time period. The couples who manage to keep it together have to BOTH have a grip of death on each other, neither one letting go no matter what happens. So if one person cheats the other will still keep gripping. I have alrady been through Uranus Opp amd for me that meant no couplehood or sex at all, but hey…i got to find out I am asexual/demisexual so that may not apply to you. That means i NEED a friendship connection as foundation or nothing real will happen. Not eveybody needs that. You sound like one of those lucky normal people who don’t! Celebrate that! You can find friendship with other people. If you think about it, most women married men they had no friendship with prior to the 50’s and they managed to last and make babies. So liking the same music and politics is not a pre-requisite for a stable relationship.

Don’t count on Toro changing his core values. He could change many things when Uranus hits but i doubt anything core to him would. And if it did, would you still love/like him?

A lot of my post U-opp friend are all dating these sorts of mis-matches. One of my friends is in a suprisingly stable but boring relationship with a bland guy who likes rap music and is a lyfestyle penny pincher, when she is a goth foodie world traveller. She is embarrassed to show this guy to her friends or family. I’ve met him and he is as bland as she says. But i am like this man does not abuse you, he is faithful, and stable. There are lots of reasons to stay with this man, but sucks you can’t show him off to anyone.

Post U-opp, even my man with which i do have friendship and good sex, i can’t show off. Yet again i have to attend a party by myself because he will be travelling again for work. You can’t have it all! ( or as my meditation friends say …yes u can if u rewire your brain to accept current situations as ideal) . My core group of friends has met him already. I am ok with that, but my friends who have not met him (after 2 yrs) are like who is this Mr. Snupalupagus?

Sam

It’s funny isn’t it how were totally into someone for uranian reasons but we’re ashamed of it/them in some way. Even if they are as u say kind, decent, respectful, yummy in some way humans. And thank u mars bar for the reminder that Uranus Venus transit is not necessarily coup de coeur type stuff, It can just be ‘the unexpected’..

marsbar

Sometimes “social shame” as in my friend’s case is more from ego because she is an FJ and a Libra so she wants him to match her. In a way that makes sense from the outside. But yes she is uranian as well! Good guess!

I am more wow-im-too-weird-nobody-exactly-like me that finding an exact match would be close to imposs so why try? Just be happy with close-enough. In my case people have been wondering where i have been.

marsbar

Even your marriage had the stamp of Uranus!

sphinx

I like what Pi said above about body having it’s own language. Your intellectual mind and consciousness is very self-important to think it can rule your life with an iron fist!! But the body knows, the body remembers.

There are universes inside you populated with inner constellations longing for expression, with loving memories of joyous times with this soul. Maybe you were red insects in the Amazon together having a ball of time? Or pink river dolphins? No one cared about your political affiliation then, it didn’t matter.
Perhaps if it feels right let your inner stellium of characters speak in their own way.

There is a kids book called ‘the Tomten’, he would speak to the cat in a silent little voice that only cats could understand. He would speak to the sheep in a silent little voice only sheep could understand. It might be scary to let it all go and watch your body dance ahead of your mind and speak in a silent little language only bodies understand!

Maybe contemplate the iceberg, a small part of which faces out to the Sunlight of the Conscious Mind while the far greater portion exists underwater yet fully present. 😉 loving the above comments and the conundrum you are having, it seems so positive from your letter.

Sam

Aww red insects in the Amazon!! <3 #2getha4eva

Sam

Love the way you talk about a silent little language.

Aquasunrise

I have the Esther Perel book and think she is rather pragmatic. You can listen to/ view her via Ted Talks, which is quite interesting.

Once upon a time I think pragmatism was a good ploy as far as incredible sex was concerned…it can be in endless supply… an heighten and alter ones state, in knowing, yet I’d say that the dignity that is unspoken of, in modality of erotic movement may not be enough…

Your resolve has to be relative to your current circumstances; you may be open now and yet it may pass as you access other insights in experiencing this…

I’m having a Chiron return on my mars, which is in exact trine to Neptune in Scorpio however I know sex is a poor escape from certain hard realities. Yes it is wonderfully restorative however escapism for me in my situation means I’m not investing my energy in other ways that are more genuine and meaningful.

Lastly I see that with the current Jupiter uranus opposition and Jupiter about to go into Scorpio that self discovery arising in deep intimacy experiences with another brings much to contemplate & face…

kriblack

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Why do you have to give up a good thing or alter it if it works the way it is. Keep on enjoying your life altering sex. Who needs conversation when the chemistry is that good,

Good conversation can be had with anyone, great sex is harder to come by. Enjoy while it’s working for you and relax. When the time comes that you need more and it’s not working for you, you’ll move on. Or, maybe it will grow to become an amazing relationship that broadens both of your life experiences and builds something completely new out of your different perspectives.

The entire universe is balanced on the idea of Yin and Yang, two opposite forces coming together to create a greater whole. Why shouldn’t your love life be the same?

marsbar

Good conversation can be had with anyone?
LOL! You don’t work in any job that requires customer service, because I can personally vouch that is NOT true. Most people are lacking skill when it comes to convos.

Chrysalis

That’s interesting because my experience has been the exact opposite. Easier to find decent sex than mind-altering conversation. Perhaps as Venus in Aqua I tend to detach and compartmentalise sex somewhat.
Merc in Pisces 7th house trine Neptune – I need good convo like a drug haha

davidl

So you’re early 40s ? Hello ! this is just the beginning of YOUR life. Before that you’re still in the fittting room trying on different you’s. Welcome to the time when pleasure doesn’t have to be muddled up with aspiration and old dreams. This period between 40 and 60 is about what makes your heart mind and body sing. There is a simple rule I follow. Is this making me feel better ? Is this making me feel higher ? Is this growing stronger each time ? If so carry on. There are many of us who have similar lifestyles and beliefs, very few who we can share the heights of sexual pleasure, BLISS. It’s bliss that’s healing you. It’s not him. He’s just showing you bliss. Bliss resides like the water in a well in our bodies. Each of us hopefully learns that the greatest pleasure is GIVING pleasure. How is this ? I’m not sure 🙂 but it’s the reverse of how most people run their sex lives. As he fills your well with bliss he fills his own. The bliss cycles between you becoming inexhaustible. If either party stops giving and only takes the well runs out really quick. Enjoy x

Ariel

Fantastic comment, perfect. He’s putting you back in touch with your power – the experience is healing you. I bet you have a Chiron transit going on, never mind Saturn’s need to draw clear boundaries. My thoughts exactly. It’s great sex, enjoy it while it lasts, no need to make it into something it isn’t, and appreciate how huge the power of a ‘purely physical’ connection can be.

dark star

I love this re: bliss cycles and 40-60…I do feel before that a person is usually more self involved

12th House Virgo

This is beautiful.

12th House Virgo

This is beautiful.

Sometimes I get blissed out for no reason and I want to put a mask on it. Turn it into romance and love zombie out on it – but nothing is there. It’s still love. I’m in love. Just with no one. Sometimes it’s so sweet it stings.

No sex tho. Not opposed to it. I must be living the no-sex transit.

Sam

Yes this. Once you detach from the need to apply it to a person, it’s like finding the holy grail, or a secret? key to lasting joy or lightness …that sort of thing.
Sometimes I experience it towards or received from another person, it seems to function best by just letting it exist in me and sending a cosmic note of gratitude to the source. (I think I have The Capricorn to thank for a big part of this process)

12th House Virgo

I discovered it as a result of a love zombie relationship. It’s so strange to me now that I ever thought it had to do with him. Just like you can’t give someone hunger, you can’t give someone love.

Sam

YES wow that’s a really interesting way of putting it. Love zombieness, it can really deliver hahahahaahah xx

davidl

I’ve said it here before but I do feel the ‘beings’ are the planets themselves. We are more like sex spores, male oriented or female. So when 2 sex spores are doing it right we get a taste of what it is to be a whole being, the power and the glory of that universal status. I imagine the planets, star systems and galaxies as being in a constant state of transcendental bliss and that this is the the state that truly powers the multi verses. Aside from sexual union I’ve found bliss in devotional mantra.
Something I am forever thankful to the krsnas for teaching me.

ScorpintheSky

I’m turning 40 this month so thanks for giving me something to look forward to. I believe you.

Tauroscorp

There is no such thing as ” just great sex”.
There is always something to really amazing wild chemistry although it may not be obvious to you.
I believe you are overthinking the situation. Listen to the wisdom of your body.
But then,
Im a taurean as well.

Sam

yes. Bodies are a language too. we should not make this inferior to other stuff, *as long as* the other dynamics are not generating hurt, resentment, or other feelings of ‘something’s not right and i am not myself here’.

Tauroscorp

Exactly Pi. And if something is not right it usually is reflected in the physical and shows up in the form of illness, low energy etc.
the body is more directly connected to the subconscious and expresses things directly.

current

Nothing lasts….the sex will fade you’ll get bored

davidl

That’s not necessarily true. You can find something that grows and continues to grow. Sexual pleasure can induce spiritual bliss. In fact it’s been understood for thousands of years as the doorway to a deeper understanding of spirit and true happiness. Hey, and it’s free ! Maybe worth keeping the door open on this one current.

current

I guess I’m more middle way than tantra.

marsbar

I am the same. But for me to have something stable that makes me happy long term, friendship needs to be present. I was in a relationship for 6 yrs before realizing i would never be friends with said individual if we weren’t mashing organs. But at the time i was oblivious to being a demisexual!
Know who you are at any age!!

emg

Oh no it’s the sex for me ! Neptune in Scorpio my 8th. Live and die for the sex!

emg

I’m a cancer moon mars in 4th cancer sun Jupiter in 5th but I need no emotional warm up or connection to really enjoy a sexual connection or act. Granted a long term relationship needs a connected quality but without incredible sex it’s just so tough for me. Pisces rising with Neptune in Scorpio 8th. And of course with Jupiter just hitting Scorpio and my 8th the work is going to be about finding great quality experience in this field. Or bedroom or kitchen or stairs…

current

Nothing lasts…

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

HA! I thought Taurus as soon as I read “opens snail mail with hunting knife”. I know a few who do this.

Great sex/chemistry at ANY age, obvi.

The fact you “can’t introduce him to your friends” sound problematic. Does he do political ranting 24-7? Or are your friends the ones who just dive straight into politics?
Surely you could have a quiet word with both–these are my friends their politics may differ from yours but please treat them with respect?

Could you develop some common ground? Organic gardening? The environment? Sustainable living? These all vibe Taurus/earth sign

I would not suggest living with this person–clearly the feng shui would be way off….

If you really see no middle ground, you could suggest an “arrangement” and keep your eye open for someone more compatible on other levels…but beware…taureans are creatures of habit and breaking it off is bound to be painful.

ScorpintheSky

Good on you Lux. This is what I think too. Lust comes from a place deep in the subconscious that I don’t think can be easily rejoined with “learn the lesson/move on”. Can you find common ground? Lust CAN put us in a place of humility and openness that more easily allows for mental integration and wholeness a la Dan Siegel.

dark star

The title of this made the Scorpio in me recoil…and the thought of changing a Taurus made me laugh. Id agree enjoy the sexx for what it is and manifest someone with Everything

Medicatrix

Ha. Ditto. And I also agree with Mystic that there is something terribly saturnine about pragmatically attending to your physical needs. (At least that’s what I’m going to tell myself from now on- lol!!)

Christine

Having just been through a Uranus opposition, I’d say you guys will break up after Uranus is done transiting that area of your chart. Your beliefs and approaches will change, but I predict that the Taurus guy will get lazy and you’ll get bored and move on, having learned whatever you need to learn or work out whatever you needed to work out with him.

I have a strong Uranian signature in my chart (Uranus square Sun) and although I am already wired for the unusual, the opposition shook my life up so much that I found myself doing things even I would have never considered.

Regarding sex: I dated a Virgo who was lackluster in his efforts in all areas of the relationship. He also had ED that he never dealt with, until I got tired of it and started dating other men — then it mysteriously cleared up without me uttering a word. By then it was too little too late.

I also totally changed my views/strategy on sex — I stopped with the “no sex before commitment” thing, which seemed manipulative and sucked considering it meant I’d never get any action either. It turns out that NOT waiting worked much better for me than those old patriarchal beliefs about withholding sex.

I released a lot of self-judgment and worn out beliefs about the things I’d been taught were “wrong.” However, now that Uranus has passed over 24 degrees of Aries, everything that was shaken loose is now coming back on line and the unusual things I learned/did to get by are falling away.

I couldn’t earn enough money in my own businesses at that time, so I started driving for Lyft. I learned a LOT but my own projects are picking up again. It’s hard to understand the interruption — the lessons are there and I’m different, but things are essentially going back to normal.

I hope that helps!

ScorpintheSky

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

leoliza

Do you like this man? There is no conversation or any talking? Just badda bing badda boom? I don’t think I could be with someone I was embarrassed to introduce to my friends.

CleverUserID

I’m having the best sex of my life at almost 54. We might even be soul mates, but if we weren’t/ aren’t I’d still be all in for the sex.

I say just enjoy it, but stay open to other opportunitues. This could be a primer for even greater things to come.

Sam

this gives me hope

OMG LOL

I had actually typed
“this gives me hoe”

CleverUserID

and thus therein lies hoe-dom bwaaaahahahaha !!!

i gotta tell you as soon as i utterly gave up. boom.

the universe is a weird place.

Sam

😀

Gemyogi

Thus gives *me* hope!
Still celibate and still looking… in between phases where I look at my mostly unhappily partnered friends and think ‘why do they waste their time on that one?’ My single life is good

CleverUserID

single was/is awesome. when you own wherever you’re at and rock it, it’s all good. i was absolutely happy being single. and then this. who knew!?

Sam

I don’t actually understand the question. I agree with both Mystic and LV!?!?
why would you even ask that?

Most of my relationships were founded on a solid but untenable basis of really sexy sex and a monumental mismatch in values, beliefs and lifestyles/ recreational pastimes. The sex (and some other mercurial cool conversation stuff, they were all air signs rising) kept the liaisons going far longer than they should have

He is a taurus. He is a man. He won’t change. Just suggesting that now. Particularly if he is over 40ish and has an absence of mutable energy in his chart. He – and you – is deriving great pleasure from whatever this tryst is. you’re experiencing Actual Health Benefits as well as the actual amazing sex. If you’re feeling aquarian, introduce him to your friends just to shock them, hahahaahahaha
Or, make like a man, and designate him as numero uno Shagmanic Healing Session Guy and let it be what it is, until it isn’t. IF HE IS A TORO though maybe you will actually effect a transformation upon him a la uranus – when is the transit to his sun coming up? Don’t hold out for it, but (as us mutables like to say) – “allow for the possibility”

Sam

mostly what i like about this whole scenario is that mind blowing bed (wherever) work does not harbour prejudice unlike the rest of our silly minds. It seeks only one thing… mutual satisfaction 😀

dark star

Shagmanic lol dying can you tm that

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

IKR?!!

Sam

#shagmanic

Chrysalis

Multi-layers of genius in this word! Let’s try to get it in the dictionary. xx

Sam

have to admit though. it’s nice to just rock up to brunch / whatever people do these days without having to develop a PR manual or use social kid-gloves for loverboy / frends

Sam

Natal moon square Venus is a real hassle sometimes, lol

Catherine Cox

My solution has been to have a great lover who I wouldn’t want to live with as he’s too hectic for me, and a wonderful gay man who adores all the same things as me. I lived and travelled with the latter for a year in a vehicle no problem. I don’t think its a strict rule that you get everything from one relationship though I am sure some people do. So long as its all in the open and all parties are happy then why not? Taurus ♉ with Aries moon and Venus and a Uranus that says freedom!

Catherine Cox

P s am 62

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Ohh that is genius

kriblack

Agreed. I believe my gay best friend is my soul mate. We have almost 100% interests in common. We always get each other, we never have to explain ourselves, we speak nearly every day and we haven’t lived in the same province for almost ten years. We don’t even see each other every year but I never feel like we’ve been apart. And none of the men I’ve dated are remotely like him nor would I want them to be.

marsbar

LATs are trendy right now! Acronym for “living apart together”. A lot of older couples post 40 y.o, because of complicated living arrangements like parent or adult child living at home AND housing costs do NOT have room for a live-in lover.

LiberatingVenus

NEVER!!!

Great sex can happen at any age; it’s about the chemistry and connection between two people. As for your man, though, just don’t try to make a main course out of decadent dive into a bag of potato chips, OK? Although on one level I am sighing with wishful admiration/longing at your description of its wonderful rejuvenating powers, personally as far as I am concerned if I don’t actually *like* you that will kill all desire dead cold. I just can’t fathom bedding a right-wing conspiracy nut. But I am super selective about who I allow into my boudoir and always have been. As great as the sex is, I think it would be good for you to keep your options open, especially with Jupiter about to enter Scorpio in < 5 days. This transit should be a fortuitous for more/better intimacy in every sense of the word; not *just* the physical stuff.

LiberatingVenus

I think what concerns me most is this: If you get into any “relationship” – and IDC whether it’s an actual official relationship or just a “thing” w/ someone you’re shagging – with the desire to change someone, it is a giant red flag to just stop right there and check yourself. Accept the situation as-is or let go – hoping for/wanting someone to change for you is an exercise in futility/disappointment regardless of incoming transits. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Uranus over his Sun could just as easily mean he gets, like, *legit* crazy BTW :-/ Are you sure you wanna stick around for that on just a wing and a prayer? If you’re a Capricorn it is likely that you are in Pluto’s thrall – you’re compelled (because of the sex – hello, Pluto!) but ultimately you know it will metaphorically be the death of you. Pull up, now. Or out, as the case may be. 😀

The Lion & The Centaur

Ah. Now I get it. Thanks LiberatingVenus! I’ve been wondering if my hormones are out of whack lately because now I’m horny even when PMS’ing but it must be the Jupiter into Scorpio!! Because even though my hormones are humming, I’ve actually spend long times in selibacy, embracing tantric approach even to sex with myself. I feel like that is Haute Scorp. I have Jupiter in 8th house (+Virgo Mars lol) so I haven’t always been very ‘haute’ when it comes to sex but yay I must be growing self-respect and that all!

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