The Twelfth House People

When You Have Three Or More Planets (plus Sun/Moon) In The Twelfth House

Twelfth house people discover how the world works early in life – mapping it out and knowing all the rules. It’s just not the world everyone else lives in. Paranormality is their norm. They move through life as if it was a shamanic journey, and they’re sleeping somewhere else. Their cosmic consciousness is innate, an organic awareness that others go crazy trying to attain.

One person’s “and then I spent a year at a retreat/did Ayuahuasca again/took up sacred chanting” is the 12 house person’s peak spiritual experience at the supermarket/saw Buddha in the bathroom at the club/astral-traveled-by-mistake-last-night experience. They assume everyone sees ghosts or visions and then stop talking about it once they realize it gets them in trouble. Twelfth house people often get more camaraderie from animals and deities than they do from fellow humans.

Supernatural things occur to and around them all the time, and no, they can’t place it in a religious context. Nor do they need to join a magical group, memorize chants and start summoning things up. The 12th house in astrology is your esoteric roots. It is the soul sector. Classically, it’s also the domain of concealed enemies instead of the open ones of the 7th house. It can sound terrifying, as if people with a concentration here will be stalked night and day by mysterious foes.

Paranormality Is Their Norm

But let’s break this down a tad. Certain characters envy the 12th house person’s aplomb with magic and astral realms but they’ll never admit it. They’ll behave perfectly – even obsequiously – to someone’s face and let rip with the slander when they’re out of range. 12th housers are not usually brash or confrontational, so they’re unlikely to have overt enemies. Hence the importance of trusting vibe over words.

If you want to go full throttle with this, say the person with a loaded 12th house has a strong spiritual lineage, cosmic guidance, and subliminal recall of occult powers/supernatural experiences from other times. If you’re all that, then, of course, you’d have a few grubby low-life entities lurking around still stinging from a spat in another era. Twelfth house people naturally gravitate to aura and space protection, but excessive use of drugs, including alcohol, leaves them energetically unguarded.

Leaving aside the fact that they don’t really need mind-altering substances as their mind is already alt-dimensional, some 12th house people see themselves as psychonauts, exploring the edges of consciousness or narco-philosophers: Terence McKenna, William Burroughs, and Allen Ginsberg had huge soul sectors, had a massive capacity for drugs and agreed on something they called “the syntactical nature of reality.” Too intensive to go into here, it drew in chaos magic, synchronicity, hallucinogens, and hieroglyphics.

Post-Saturn Return, Frank Ocean seems to be embodying his 12th house Mercury, Sun, and Pluto conjunction more by the day. This is from the Rolling Stone review of Blonde.

“dreaming a thought that could dream about a thought that could think of the dreamer that thought,” he half-raps — then eats some mushrooms and, in a lovely poetic flash, watches “light hang-glide off the moon.” (Ocean’s dealer should put this verse on his business card: His product is clearly phenomenal.)

As I said in The Truth About 12th House Transits, this sector of the birth chart has a bad reputation because of how alt-consciousness and magic were punished in the past 2000 years or so. It’s not so much that the 12th is associated with ‘confinement and prisons’ etc, as that people were routinely exiled, imprisoned, or executed for awareness of other realms.  Deep in their bones, the 12th House person interprets that “you’re weird” glance as a danger alert.

When free, they’re philosophers, shamans, healers, artists, and visionaries – regardless of their official identity or vocation.

“The truth is, indeed, that love is the threshold of another universe. Beyond the vibrations with which we are familiar, the rainbow-like range of its colours is still in full growth. But, for all the fascination that the lower shades have for us, it is only towards the “ultra” that the creation of light advances. It is in these invisible and, we might almost say, immaterial zones that we can look for true initiation into unity. The depths we attribute to matter are no more than the reflection of the peaks of spirit.”

Pierre de Teilhard Chardin, the Jesuit priest-philosopher-scientist who wrote the words above, was a rarity. Naturally, the Vatican condemned and banned him, but he would have fared far worse in any previous century. He had the Sun, Moon, Venus, Neptune, and Pluto in the 12th.

Artists with prominent 12th houses don’t simply do work that ‘lives on’ – their movies, music, and literature haunt people. It is as if they wove a beautiful ghost into it that would keep operating after they transferred dimensions. Watching, listening, or reading feels like a spell. This is the realm of Iris Murdoch, Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Agnes Varda, and Leonard Cohen.

Even allowing for the fact that many well-known people don’t have their birth time on public record, there is a shortage of 12th house-dominant celebrities. Think about it: they’re reclusive by temperament and have a refined, poetic psyche that shrinks away from publicity junkets and their coarse interrogations. Bad lighting fries their aura. They’re also scarily attuned to frequencies, find solitude rewarding, and guard a multitude of secrets. It’s not the innate profile of a publicity-hustler.

Bad Lighting Fries Their Aura

The ones who are mega-famous – Charlize Theron, Keanu Reeves, and Joe Biden spring to mind – are stringent with privacy, regardless of media exposure. As GQ magazine observed, “Keanu Reeves has managed to pull off the nearly impossible feat of remaining an enigmatic cult figure despite having been an A-list actor for decades.”

When Twelfth house people are involved in a scandal, mystery, or leak, it’s ultra bizarre. Examples include Julian Assange, Christine Keeler, the ‘call-girl’ at the center of Britain’s government-quaking Profumo Affair, and the heiress Sunny Von Bulow who died after nearly 30 years spent in a coma that may have been initiated by her husband, who was charged with her murder but never convicted.

In 1967, Harold Holt – then the Prime Minister of Australia – disappeared off a beach, prompting Australian history’s biggest search. His body has never been found, and many conspiracy theories are attached to the unsolved mystery. Holt had the Sun, Mercury, Mars, and Jupiter in the 12th house, all in Leo.

Even when they seem ostensibly ‘normal,’ they’re not. The person with the most crowded 12th house in history is Ann Margret, a Swedish born actor best known for her iconic Easy Rider bike scene and starring in Viva Los Vegas alongside Elvis Presley. Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. She’s been working non-stop in the entertainment industry for six decades, despite being maligned as a bimbo and written off countless times. Even allowing for her multi-Taurean robustness, that’s hardly the stunt of an overly sensitive empath. What are her 12th house credentials?

Reality Is A Possibility They Cannot Ignore

Well, she was raised in a funeral parlor, sleeping alongside the caskets at night, her mother having secured them free board, in exchange for cleaning. She was one of the first celebrities to talk openly about her ‘secret battle with booze,’ as well as the psychotherapy that helped her give up. Dr. Ruth – Ruth Westheimer, another 12th houser – has a similar knack of bringing taboo topics into popular consciousness. Ann Margret literally never goes to restaurants or events (and never has unless she is under contract to attend something) but still rides her motorbike around the Hollywood hills at night.

She was also the secret lover of Elvis – “we were indeed soul mates, shy on the outside, but unbridled within…that we both possessed the devil, nobody knew.” Ann Margret was later devotedly married for ages, but clandestine love affairs intrigue many 12th house people. They like the built-in privacy, lack of obligatory social events or wifework, and automatic personal space.

They come across as trippy, half in one dimension, half in another, and then stun everyone with their pragmatism.  As Leonard Cohen (Sun, Venus, and Neptune in the 12th) said, “reality is one of the possibilities I cannot afford to ignore.


*A Twelfth house person is someone with three or more of the following points in their natal 12th house:  the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, Chiron. The ruler of the birth chart counts for two.

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Wendy A Rhodes

Thank you for this validation. Have 3 Virgo placements and one Leo in the 12th, but have hasd so many experiences that were hard to explain.


Sun, Moon, Mercury in12th all in Taurus. Still learning what this means!! Since so many astrologers who’ve done readings for me try to skim over this area, I don’t feel I’ve had a lot of validation and/ or it’s some kind of anomaly no one wants to chat about. This article cheered me and makes me want to know more. Thank you!!!!


Hi I have the Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn, Mercury and Chiron with planet ruler Venus in the 12th house. Because of these things – and being Taurus – I can’t open up but this is new to me plus the insights. Like to know more about the chart

Samantha Giraffo

Hi i have the sun, moon, saturn, mercury and venus in the 12th house. Could you recommend me to a reputable chart reader?


12th house Sun/Mercury/Venus/Mars/Pluto, Venus being my chart ruler. 12th house in Libra. I appreciate this article, it rings true. As a child, while other boys wanted to astronauts and firemen, I wanted to be a minister. Studied religion in college and found too many grains of truth and too many rules in all religions to confine myself to just one. Got into drugs instead. Grew up to be a performing artist, became a visual artist after Saturn’s return (10th house Saturn). Pondering is my favorite hobby. I spend my happiest nights sitting quietly at home, away from my family, and… Read more »

Embee Again

That’s so funny you tuned right in to forensic accounting, that’s exactly the branch I would be interested in!


Wow- this is the best thing I have read about 12th house people! I have Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, and ascending in the 12th house. Bizarre things happen all the time but get so lost in translation…I have felt that real threat in my bones about being ‘weird’. Which makes being alone or keeping these parts hidden very appealing. Thank you for this, I feel very seen.


Mars, Neptune (my chart ruler), and Uranus all in my 12h in Aquarius and I am an actress! Like I want to be known/recognized for my career but like not ~too known~ I also noticed that I could have some crazy, random dreams. But I do find that I’m a pretty creative individual!


My daughter has Sun, Mercury and Saturn in her 12 house, also in Scorpio. Reclusive artist? Check. Also, I am convinced her subconscious is linked to mine, where she can pick up on my thoughts and emotions. I also can’t tell if she has some weird access to another reality, or a spirit places things for only her to find. There are things we have looked for for MONTHS sometimes, that she finds under my bed. Even after I’ve spent like, 15 minutes vacuuming and cleaning under there, or multiple people have confirmed that there is nothing under the bed,… Read more »


That’s so funny – not that you were crying obvs, but the familiarity of the story. I’m a 12th houser and i am great at finding things, including for my mother who will get herself in a tizz looking for something “EVERYWHERE” then, exasperated will finally give up and ask me for help, and i’ll ‘tune in’ to it and go straight to where it is. Last time it happened she was so relieved that she was less concerned about my weirdness. Previous times i’ve had to make up some story about how i knew where it was because she… Read more »


Totally relate to all of this with Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto in my Scorpio 12th house. Makes me feel seen, which is kind of an elusive thing for a 12th house person.


I have Sun, Mercury and Mars in my 12th! I loved reading this, it hit so close to home, especially the parts about relishing solitude and staying quiet from an early age about paranormal happenings/having strange covert enemies.

Mike mike

Scorpio sun, moon , rising and Pluto in 12th house scorpio. Oh and my street address is ….1212 12th st😂🤣😂WTF?


This is really nice to read. I’m a 12th house person of Jupiter & Cancer Moon, Leo Venus. I love and am proud of being of the twelfth, but I know and feel the degree to which ppl aren’t on the same “thing.” The other night, when the moon was getting to be gibbous, I had a walk with my great-grandmother and she told me about her great-grandmother and what she thought of all the women she knew or had observed in our line. Right now, I’m dealing with a love scenario and use secrets and work to navigate it… Read more »


**my great-grandmother as a spirit/ancestor


You need to get someone you vibe with more than any credential

Mosei R

Be careful with your writing. I’m an artist, 12th house heavy with some similarities of childhood trauma with an eating disorder. When I write from the heart or illustrate, those things manifest in reality. For instance once, at a low point, feeling isolated and unloved I wrote pages on pages detailing the best way to leave. I decided at that time, the “best” way that would spare my loved ones would be a car accident. I spent the next two weeks dodging cars on the freeway…narrowly escaping situations on several occasions. When I reached out finally to a friend…I told… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

Dance me to the end of love !


The mega mystic had me looking at Walt Whitman’s chart, also in my research I came across an amazing quote from Walt. He was described as belonging to a time yet to come, not just ahead of his time but from an era that has not yet arrived, a political philosopher and feminist as well as a poet. This is the quote: Of all dangers to a nation, as things exist in our day, there can be no greater one than having certain portions of the people set off from the rest by a line drawn — they not privileged… Read more »


Dear Mystic, I am in awe of your ongoing astrological insights but can you really drop the term ‘wifework’ into commentary without referencing Susan Maushart?
Sincere regards,
Saltwater Bec


Dear Saltwater Bec, yes, you can drop the term without referencing anyone, especially as the word has become part of the vernacular. But it is interesting – for linguistic purposes – to see who coined it.

Wish Upon a Star

I’ve never heard the term wife work. Probably because I’ve never been married.

So I learnt something today.

Wish Upon a Star

But I have seen the term “wifey” on coca cola cans at the supermarket.

Derogatory and condescending.


Best take on 12th house I’ve read. Although I’ve only got Mars in the 12th, and Jupiter is read as either 12th or 11th, alot of the post made sense. Weather any storm; poetics and other worldly vibing; fiercly private… And I thought that had to do with Pluto next to my Sun. Turns out I didn’t give my 12th house enough credit. It’s the 12th house that I go to, to help me manage and deal with challenging times. Perhaps that what led me to astrology, runes, and most recently, distant energy healing. And my mum has the same… Read more »


Well i mention my 12th astro heaps in relation to other posts on this blog. Along with some astral travel tales. So shan’t need to repeat here. Mystic has taught me much to rejoice in, rather than fear about the 12th. Though one must cultivate awareness of one’s own illusions. The clandestine enemies/resentments part is intriguing. Felt like that has been playing a crazymaking thematic tune for almost a year. Tried to address certain gaps between the energetic current/behaviours, and the words of others. They give denials. 12th house begins at 0 Scorp; the conjunctions in Sage. All i want… Read more »


Yes. So so true this


Yes, i know you get it. Wish you didn’t have to! xx


Moon, Neptune and Lilith for the win
Feeling understood and accepted here 🙏🏻






This post resonates for me, though technically only the Moon and Chiron count (though I also have Eris and Ceres there. Maybe it’s because my Moon is so connected to the rest of my chart? I have an intercepted sign on the cusp so my 12th house is 47 degrees. My privacy is ultra important to me, and I feel like my life is majorly shifting and I’m coming ‘online’ in terms of my clairs. Neptune’s also getting ready to transit in the 12th for what will seem like the rest of my life. One of my earliest memories was… Read more »


Perhaps you and others who experienced such were the inspiration for Raymond Chandler to write “The Lady in the Lake.”

Pearl Icicle

My Virgo 12th house is filled with Venus, Sun, Mercury, Pluto, and Uranus. My Virgo 1st house is my ascendant. I have nothing in Aquarius. The past few weeks, moths, years have been rough. Thanks for this, also reading everything you’ve written about the 12th house…now. Thank you!


I only have jupiter in the 12th in cancer, but I found this a great read, completed by fabulously otherworldly artwork – it speaks to my gazillion planets in water signs <3… who is it by please? am I blind or there are no credits?


No credits, you are seeing nothing correctly x


thanx, how apt that it will remains a mystery <3 …


Feeling seen… A rare thing for a twelfth houser! I feel like most astro commentary about the 12th house, and its people, is written from outside the 12th trying to see in. Hence the usual ‘jails, asylums, institutions’ reductionism. Like we’re all locked up, incarcerated, insane… I mean, perhaps it looks like that to others from the outside, or they’d like to see it that way to validate their own dowdy lives, but when you’re truly living in the 12th house, mostly it’s a bit a of a dream..! Tho you can’t often let on as some people do get… Read more »


As someone with a Leo 12th house stellium, and first house moon in Virgo, I can do without so much isolation. Living in a dream can make you insane and stop you from living with achievements, which may seem wordly, but we are here on earth for purpose.
As mystic said, 12th housers aren’t flakes, we do have a pragmatic side and it necessary to keep our sanity at times


Also, the 12th can mean a lack of boundaries for the person, which can be ruinous if taken too far


‘Ruinous’ can always mean deep hard learning, and rebirth. It’s not always a goddamned fortune cookie of despair, though it may feel like it, look like it, taste like it. And we may have to experience it to taste the recalibrations necessary, all along our lives. Can we be kind in our words to our own selves, then bring that outwards, maybe?


Losing your actual life because of no boundaries or being taken advantage of severely won’t give you a second chance, in my opinion.
A lot of astrologers, including mystic, warn about not having firm boundaries and the consequences and why it simply isn’t worth it

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Living in the 12th house does not have to mean having no boundaries, and living life as a dream does not mean living without achievements either..! Quite the opposite, imo. ‘Living in my own dream’ to me means being able to envision a life and bring it into being. Perhaps that’s from having a Taurus moon in the 6th, or Saturn conj MC to help with manifesting things, but the manifestations always begin as “dreams”. The worst aspect of being a 12th houser, in my experience, is the feeling of being misunderstood by others, but when i stop focusing outside… Read more »


Pisces asc with Saturn and Chiron in Pisces although technically my first. But big grand water trine including Neptune in scorp in the 8th with my sn. So I feel I dabble my toes in this the pond. But then I bathe in the 8th I’m just so watery. But all these planets now lining up in aqua are going to be one huge 12th house transit for me. Have a feeling this time it’s a case of get on with it and bring forth your goods or get off the planet. I wait and watch


Thanks Mystic for posting this. I have my ascendant, moon, mars and true node all in the 12th house and never been satisfied with the description. This helps.
Can anyone recommend further reading material on this topic?


Mystic has written a lot about it over the years


My father is Pisces Rising with Sun, Mercury & Jupiter in Pisces in the 12th, along with Lilith, Eros, Vesta and other friends in Aqua/12. Dreamed of being an artist, always in art galleries and painting. Made painfully aware of reality early on, including living in a wealthy Nazi house as a 4 year old where, as the child of foreign servants he was relegated to the attic to spend his time in silence, drawing in the margins of newspapers. Still eats like his meal will be the last for a while, wishing it over as he subconsciously remembers eating… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star

Your father is a sweetheart.



Thank you for sharing these beautiful observations of your father. So often I read posts on this blog that I feel could be the opening lines of a great novel, such are the amazing lives led by this community. This is one. But mostly, your love and admiration shines through. xx


Thank you! I increasingly avoid being personal on the internet, which has muzzled my commenting, but I love writing and understanding my loved ones via the lens of astrology. I think about why I was born to parents both with Aries Moons and how that impacts my siblings etc. I love reading your thoughtful contributions Chrys, xx




Oh wow. I feel this so much. I was just saying the other day that it feels like I live in the upside-down from Stranger Things, because I’m constantly perceiving things that others have no idea is even happening. And yes to “peak spiritual experience in the supermarket,” lol. If this could be an aesthetic, it would be mine. I definitely felt like I was losing my mind all the time until I started digging into my 12th house. Mystic definitely helped with that, and also Your Secret Self by Tracy Marks, which helped me more than therapy ever did.… Read more »


Weird, I have only Saturn in my 12th, but this all rang some fierce bells with me anyway. But I guess my Neptune in Scorpio and Moon in Pisces contribute to feelings of submerged mysteries and solitude?


What is “the ruler of the birth chart”? Is that the planet that rules the Sun sign of the person in question?


its the ruler if the rising sign-my rising is taurus, so my chart ruler is venus




Only Circe, Fortuna, Salacia, Aesculapia. I must investigate. Love the special effects when scrolling ❤️

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Yes, the special effects were cool!


Another 12th Houser is Camilla Parker Bowles with Cancer Sun, Moon, Mercury & Venus there. These people are nothing if not tenacious in weathering any storm, it seems. Had to rewatch Viva Las Vegas last night after reading about Anne-Margret. She’s dynamite! not to mention the sexual energy between she & Elvis is bonkers. She has one more planet in the 12th than the Anti-Christ apparently. According to Jeane Dixon – a famous psychic & astrologer to presidents Nixon & Reagan, the Anti-Christ was born in Al-Barsha (Egypt) on February 5, 1962, at 7.07 a.m., which makes him an Aquarius… Read more »


interesting re Camilla Skarab…encouraging u think we can weather any storm…i’d like to think thats true…x


Well the evidence is there – they just seem to go on forever. I’m having fun with this lot. Hugh Grant is another 12th houser (Sun,Merc,Pluto,NN) who weathered a sleazy sex bust in the 90s only to gain in popularity after that. Then getting his comeuppance by fighting Murdoch’s press in the phone taping scandal & winning. Plus he looks like he’s just getting into his stride regards acting the older he gets.


oh thankyou, theres hope for me yet lol x


i wonder if the 12th hse is linked to chronic illness / unexplained illness…


Mystic, I love this. So can I clarify, I have Venus in Cancer, and Sun in Leo in the 12th and my chart is ruled by Leo. So does the rulership count as two planets?


yes to clandestine love affairs, though thats ended now coz he died
need to get julian vayne’s books…


could this be more scorp & 12th !? xx


‘inserts laughing emoji + sad emoji at same time’ !!!


well, we were both scorp-same birthday, diff yr, so…no!!!


ohhhhh i have been waiting for this!
moon, jupes, chiron & loads of asteroids here
loving the article, although never seen ghosts, think i would freak. maybe i AM one????
absolutely LOVE that image of the sea, gonna stare at it
yes to solitude, although my 7th hse sun would like a partner
still cant get over the fact madonna is a 12th hse sun….


Stellium in 12th here. Can’t be in a conventional, earthy relationship no matter how much I love the other person…. But have had amazing relationships when distance is somehow built-in… Separate houses, different cities, other continents…. I need solitude at least 50% of the time… Too much intimacy for extended periods of time feels like torture.


I remain optimistic that *someone* out there can meet me where I am and honor my needs for solitude. More optimistically, perhaps even someone who appreciates that magic needs space and grace to recharge. (12thH Scorpio stellium/ 10thH Libra stellium)


Venus in 12 house, earthly lovers not for me, fall in love with stars of the silver screen only. Dream lovers only. The reality of ‘household’ love & romance too real for my taste.


Same here


Just the last line however as my Venus in the 8th


Harold Holt was ’67 & i was at Portsea staying at the time, a little shack on the beach selling necklace beads for $1 each in the ‘Turn on Tune in Drop out’ era of Timothy Leary (Terrence McKenna came much later). Saw a sand shoe washed up on the breach & joked ‘it may have belonged to Harold’. Many a true word said in jest as it MAY have, the point is that i REMEMBER the date & was there! The Summer of Love Victorian style.


That was the day that my parents and I arrived in Australia by ship, so it’s well etched in my memory too. It was a surreal beginning for our lives in a new country. Must say that for a Leo 12th Houser, Holt made the perfect grand exit, lol.


What a wonderful story! I wonder if this mystery will ever be solved? (Maybe “they” already know but aren’t telling us)


Hey yall! Pluto, my chart ruler, plus south node are in my 12th so I consider myself a 12th house ally at least. The Frank Ocean mention, specifically Blonde, specifically White Ferrari, like calls me out. Astral travel is my ultimate vaycay.


Unaspected 12th house moon opposite the GC – I’m a space cadet most of the time, but it explains the magic 🙂


Jupiter and Saturn in Cap in the 12th along with a Cap ascendant places me firmly, in the 12th, tho’ ‘firm’ is probs not such a great descriptor in a 12th house existence!


Oh this is so me! Thank you for articulating it so well. It’s a challenge walking in two worlds and I am getting a reputation for my ghost sightings and medium abilities. I’m never alone! But I love it and instead of questioning it I am learning to embrace it. I’ve sun, moon, mercury retro in Aquarius and Venus and Lilith in Pisces all in 12th. Your post has lit up my day, with good lighting.


This is so interesting! I have a friend who is a Leo sun and does not vibe Leo at all. Turns out he has a huge 12th house Cancer stellium. He works in aged care – he literally helps people cross over to the other side. Astro, huh?


THIS!! Reading your article gave me goosebumps straight from my soul sector which has the Moon, Venus and Mercury. Moon in 12th I never quite understood the significance till I joined your site, but I always felt I lived between worlds but couldn’t quite figure out which world would have me *tear lol. I’m only lately starting to embrace the magic of the 12th, and learned from an early age that the paranormal IS my normal and nope nobody else finds that normal lol. It definitely can feel extremely isolating at times but I’m learning to let the people who… Read more »


I always like your articles on the 12th house. I have a stellium in the 12th, including the sun, in leo, which waters down the potency.
The pragmatic comment makes a lot of sense to me, I feel I walk the line between pragmatism and being an empath.
We are used if we aren’t careful though.
I have a massive aversion to substances too, so I guess I understand how they dissolve boundaries instinctively . I think a 12th house lesson is very much about learning boundaries and why.


What a wonderful article! When I discovered that I have 5 planets in the 12th House, and what that means, my entire life made so much more sense. Venus, Mars, Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and I’m a Libran. Spiritual awareness, esotericism, synchronicity, alchemy, dream work, hallucinogens, and the collective unconscious mean everything to me. All of this informs my work as a psychoanalyst. Even though there’s much frustration and anxiety around big ticket items in life, I absolutely love being a 12th Houser.


Do you get triple points if you’ve got Neptune in the 12th? I’ve got that and my Ascendant in Sagittarius but that’s it and a lot of the above felt pretty familiar. Maybe my grand fire trine amps it up or something…

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Neptune in 12th and Sag asc also xx


Lovely writing and that quotation from Chardin, wow – it’s like a crossover of shamanic and Platonic. I’m just Neptune and NN in the 12th, which is probably quite enough for me!


My chart ruler moon is conjunct Chiron in the 12th. I have sun conjunct Neptune as well though in the 6th where my stellium is. While not entirely a 12th person some of this definitely resonates. People who don’t know me well assume I’m high most of the time and I just laugh and think to myself : “I AM drugs”. I fight the escapism battle all the time finding it painful at times to exist in the mundane world and very misunderstood by others. Sensitive to societal bullshit. Mostly just wishing I could dissolve into aether. If I didn’t… Read more »

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Oh man, I can relate. “painful existence in mundane world/ misunderstood… dissolve into aether.” As a child, I can remember sitting outside staring up at the sky, begging to “go home,” feeling somewhat confused by my own request, yet deeply knowing it was accurate.

Chiron is my only earth placement and it directly opposes my Sun/Moon. I rely heavily on consciously grounding myself through cooking, the sea, scent, and nature. Once settled, I command my Mars rising in Sag to find the brightside and cheer myself up.


I had that feeling too as a kid! Still do in fact. Beam me up.

It is lucky to have other elements to balance us out that’s for sure.


Thanks for this love letter, Mystic. Reassuring to know someone out there gets me. xo – Sun, Moon, Uranus conjunct in Scorpio

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