Mind-Blowing Time Tripping

Forget Ophiuchus and arcane arguments over the Zodiac. Is your time zone even real? Embarrassingly, I never gave this much thought until now.  Thank you, Saturn in Capricorn.* So, as you may know, our world is divided into time zones and they are standardized according to longitude. Eg: Pacific Standard Time is 120 degrees West. And Australian Eastern Standard Time is 150 degrees East.

Or, and this is the equation I just Virgo-ed out on like crazy, in New Zealand, where I was born, the standard time zone based off 180 E. But I was born at 174.47 E. – so the NZ time zone (stay with me) is GMT + 12 hours but unless my arithmetic is deranged (possible), being born 6 degrees ish to the East of that time makes my true time half an hour earlier. And yes the chart fits. Eg: Sun in the 3rd house, not 2nd.

So I am going to get a calculator made for this and embed it on the site. Yours may be nothing – a mere few seconds difference. Or, the time you think you were born at is merely based on the standardized time for your zone.

The Time You Were Born May Not Be Accurate

But in the meantime, fifteen degrees of longitude is approximately an hour of the time difference and 15 minutes is about four degrees. You can get an approx idea of your personal time zone via dividing your longitude by 15. And make it East or West depending on which side of the Greenwich Meridian Line you live on.

This is where it gets gloriously nuts. See World’s Stupidest Time Zones for some great incongruencies. Before October 1884, everyone kept their own time – you could go from one town to another and it was a different time. People had sundials, made loosey-goosey arrangements, didn’t gad about that much – at least definitely not where they were trying to connect with someone in another state in real-time on a frequent basis.

And there were thousands of train timetables. The time the train thought it was leaving in one place was different from the time in the place it was going to. This is why ‘getting the trains to run on time’ was not just a tinpot dictator promise, it was important.

An Aries Standardized Time

The idea of splitting the Earth up into 24 standard time zones was invented by an Italian Aries – Quirico Filopanti. Politically active, an avid Republican and author, he wrote books with names like God Exists, God Is A Liberal, and Entitled Souls. 

Note: A New Zealand butterfly collector – also an Aries – invented daylight savings because he wanted more time to catch his prey. Anyway, in 1884, shortly after Pluto went into Gemini, the International Meridian Conference set the whole thing up. It took them a month to thrash it out – Mars was square Neptune in the middle of this – and the time zone lines that were supposed to be based on elegant numerological lines were bent all over the place because of politics.

No women were present – at least not as delegates – but there were members of the Navy, several aristocrats described as “Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary” and people from the newly formed Astronomical Union arguing with the presidents of Railway Time Conventions committees.

The setting of Greenwich – as in the Point Zero and Mean Time was squabbled over but finally agreed on for “logical” reasons. They’d probably drunk the city (Washington D.C.( dry and were getting urgent telegrams from back home: “Return immediately – stop – Nobody gives a bugger what time it is anymore – stop.” 

You have to wonder if Neptunian Life Coaching were there, drifting in and out of hotel rooms, suggesting adjustments of eight minutes to align with Arcturus or wondering if midnight was really a thing. Yes, there was a heated debate over whether Noon or Midnight began a day. I’d like to think they threw the I-Ching to decide – it’s such a Yin-Yang question, but probably not.

So if you don’t want to tax your brain calculating this, wait for the calculator but otherwise, is your personal time zone the same as the standard one?

 

Images:
Metropolis – Fritz Lang
International Meridian Conference
World Time Zones 

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Pegasus

My very first astrological chart was drawn up in ’88 by New Zealand astrologers, now called Creative Cronies.Beautifully written by hand with my rising as Aquarius not Capricorn. The astrodienst said Capricorn..The Cap love of quality and looking younger matched but felt connected to Aquarius(everyone wanted to be Aquarian:-)So yes True Time may make me Uranian after all.A Saturn rising is hard for a multi Sagg, study versus dance, tricky doing both together.
Have only been to Auckland airport but LOVED it, the people the vibe, felt they were waaay ahead of the game.

seawitchmermaid

1000% here for this content🙌

davidl

This is the 3rd hit to my chart over the last few weeks. First was the 13th sign thingy followed by someone doing my chart using whole house and now this. As someone with planets in each house at very early or late degree each method changes my chart quite dramatically. One thing remains firm. I am an Aries ♈️… well I’m pretty sure I am 😬

Librarius

Love love love the description of the International Meridian Conference and all the antics!! Hahahaaa
Must have been such an exciting event to attend

Invicta

this is incredible
I am OMGing

Universali

Haha this could be the most fabulous film!

annafras

Recalculating all family members and persons of interest. Mind utterly blown, Virgo madness incoming!

Multiair

What a fascinating conversation! Can’t wait for the widget and the revelations it brings. Go Mystic!

JacQui

I’ll wait Melbourne looks to be in the middle of its zone. But 15 degrees is 1 hr and 15 minutes is 4 degrees Eeeeh? I’ll wait cause my Pluto conj Uranus isn’t thinking about time it’s busy dreaming about other things

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jepreston

crazy.

S

I’ve been down the rabbit hole of research too. What a time warp indeed. Love reading this one MM. Takes me back to that old chestnut of funny “Ma’am, what time is noon?”…I thought to myself thank god your pretty kid. Well apparently they don’t teach time in the elite private schools, oh for the love of phonetics. The dean of education said “We don’t teach them time.” His in senior school WTF is he being taught. This adolescent didn’t watch Aussie classic education on the ABC ie Play School. I’ve been wondering for ages about the conceptual aspects of… Read more »

indicaloganloves

lol

surlatable

I now have a rocking chair. That person you drive by who sits in a rocking chair all day waving? That’ll be me.

Because my brain is too big to even carry anymore.

gvolution9

awesome!
pushes me out of late degrees capricorn ascendant to aquarian.
no offence caps.. but …
i’m buyin!

Shoshannah

That is mindblowing.
Each degree of longitude is a 4 minute time difference from GMT so for me the time difference is 9 hrs 47 rather than standard AEST of 10 so not a huge difference but it still pushes the ascendant by 3 degrees and changes the house position of Mars and Jupiter. It was fun to do because I could go back and use the exact position of the hospital too rather than the standard city coordinates.

Saturn in Pisces

AMAZING!!!! I can’t wait for the calculator. I divided my longitude by 15 and came out with 4.9 (I’m West – NYC). Help?

SusanE

I’m going to wait for the calculator. Love your Mars in Virgo brain!

VenusRules

hmmm, so if I read this correctly … I was born at 5:54 pm in Edmonton, giving me 28 Taurus rising. But Edmonton is 113′ West and Mountain Time Zone is 105′. So eight degrees to the West … it’s like I was born a half hour later? That would make me 9 Gemini rising if I’m doing this right. Hmmm, I do love my books, and I’m a writer, but I feel VERY Venus-ruled and definitely look Taurean. Though I like that it would break up my heavy sixth house emphasis and move some of it into the fifth… Read more »

Saturn in Pisces

Love love Koch houses! I was born at 40 N where a lot of folks were and I love them for even that latitude.

VenusRules

With Placidus I am ALL sixth and twelfth house and that’s just bleak

Saturn in Pisces

And if that makes my true birth time a half hour (?) LATER (going West), that makes SO much sense. (I have a range of times anyway within about a 30 min period – I know it makes astro sense to guess earlier is more accurate but it just does not work out with my transits which ALWAYS seem to confirm a time on the far late end of my mom’s guesstimating) also this would make sense if Saturn was actually on my Ascendant currently as I’ve welcomed in Virgo season with an… unplanned intestinal cleansing courtesy of my autoimmune… Read more »

dbananza

This matters to me because I am 0 degrees in my sun sign! I would love a widget. Also my personal time is oriented in confusion, I wake at dawn but am moving from West Coast to Midwest time. Gonna be ballz trying to sleep for a while.

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