When Your Jupiter Pluto Transit Looks Like This

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Some Greta Thunberg Astrology Notes:

A lot of us are cynical beyond belief these days, stalking the dystopian streets in a low-key rage, too busy to muster much more than scorn at the latest missive from planetary admin. But Greta Thunberg’s speech at the U.N. raises my hope levels. It was Jupiter on her Pluto, an enriching transit that activates concealed power or resources. Of course, it is easier to succumb to desiccated apathy, impassive in the face of the latest fuqery. But what if epic rants like this did something? How cool are the Pluto in Sagittarius Gen Zs?

They’re the children that grew up with mobile phones and post-September-11 consciousness. They’ve never known a time without terror watch. My daughter is this generation and she watched it from her high chair, not because I thought it was suitable viewing but as it took me a while to parse it as happening. While these children were grown up, climate change, animal extinction, and inequality accelerated. The most connected generation in history has less allegiance to political parties or dogma than any before them.

Greta Thunberg Astrology Fact Number One: She’s Born In The Middle Of The Pluto In Sagittarius Generation – 1995 until 2008.

Presented with a barrage of opinion, political mantras, and noise, they’ve tuned into the signal: save the fuqing planet already. And no, it’s not about churning out pious suggestions to your citizens to have shorter showers or organizing yet another costly committee or study.

So, Galaxy King Jupiter on Greta Thunberg’s natal Pluto in Sagittarius when she made that speech is significant. Jupiter activates and enhances. She’s an influencer in the true sense of the world. I don’t care to hear any negativity about her or her choice of self-expression. She would have to be caught dismembering baby penguins for me dislike her. So what of her astrology?

Hobbies: Over-Achieving And Flamboyant Goal Stalking

This chart below is her Astral DNA – i need to remove those “dignified” and “detriment” notes. I don’t even believe in them, as such.  So, it says Taurus Rising as I had to use the default birthtime of noon. But I would hazard a guess she has her Mars in Scorpio Rising, making Pluto her ruler. Her Mars is square Jupiter in Leo and Uranus in Aquarius.

These are the Astral DNA definition FYI

Mars square Jupiter

Over-achieving is like their hobby. It’s the signature aspect of people like Roger Federer, Indira Gandhi, Elon Musk and the Quantum Physicist, Jian Wei Pan. They are every bit as ambitious and “let’s big it up” about everything as the other Mars-Jupiter alignments but their flamboyant Goal-Stalking can set others offside. Want to alienate one? They can be details averse. Just don’t mess with their ‘bigger picture’ flow by carping on about some compliance matter.

 

Mars square Uranus

Mars square Uranus is the agent of provocation, the iconoclast…the s**t-stirrer. These people are rebels with or without a cause. Their boredom threshold is so low as to probably qualify for some sort of a personality disorder diagnosis but guess what? Running their own show works just fine. They tend to stir up enmity without even trying, polarising people left, right and center. Courtney Love has this aspect, as do Madonna, Conor McGregor, Dhivya Suryadevara, Steve Bannon, Iggy Azalea and Alanis Morissette. They genuinely don’t care what other people think of them and in fact, disapproval fuels their unrelenting drive. Sometimes they don’t just court controversy, they move in with it. Steve Jobs had this: “Your time is limited, don’t waste it living someone else’s life.”

I am going to add her into these definitions so the next update will include Greta Thurnberg in the astrology mix. By update, I mean re-download from your dashboard, not purchase again. 

She is also Jupiter trine Pluto and opposite Neptune. So Mars fires up Jupiter and Jupiter revs Pluto.

Jupiter opposition Neptune

Jupiter takes everything totally over the top and when Neptune is at the other end of an opposition from Jupiter, situations can spiral out of control at Warp Speed. But it can be an upward spiral! These people have the same magic as any Jupiter-Neptune alignment; their ability to practically apply high-magic to their hustle is enviable. But they have to establish strong controls in their life — regimes, not just intentions — for Jupiter-Opposite-Neptune to work to its best extent. Marilyn Monroe had this and all the attendant glamor + demons. So also do Lenny Kravitz, Chris Rock and Courtney Love. It was also the signature aspect of James Hillman, the renegade psychologist and author of The Soul’s Code. It should be required reading for all Neptunians: “Each life is formed by its unique image, an image that is the essence of that life and calls it to a destiny. As the force of fate, this image acts as a personal daimon, an accompanying guide who remembers your calling.”

 

Jupiter trine Pluto

They would probably not put it like this but on some level, the Jupiter-Trine-Pluto person feels religious about their hustle. Every damn day they’re up and at it, generating lucre, counting their pentacles and feeling — somehow — guided. When they get money — and they usually do acquire decent amounts of it, they’re generous and not in a naïve way. Their prosperity beliefs demand that they give back. They often have surprising charities or secret histories with money.

 

And, she’s a Triple Capricorn! Sun, Moon and Mercury Retrograde! I want to comment on her Moon when/if we get a birth time. It could be in Aquarius. I need to stop here but she also has Saturn trine Uranus in Aquarius. But Saturn and then Pluto are heading for her Mercury and Neptune is trining her Mars. I know she is young and I am sure she is a zealot but want her in charge of more things.

Thoughts?

 

Greta Thunberg Astrology Chart

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maeveMM Member
maeve

it’s a bit late but i could not have put it more direct, while you try to convince us working people that your broken ways of making money leave most of us and the planet struggling. We are not as blind as you think.

prowlncrabMM Member
prowlncrab

Personally I don’t think a 16 year old girl who has experienced an eating disorder and mental health issues from a young age, should be thrust out on a global platform as a poster child for climate change. My daughter has always been relatively well balanced, but even then so, I would’ve strongly objected to her putting herself at risk both physically and emotionally at such a vulnerable age – fuck whatever the Terribly Important Issue might be. If the adults are that inept at carrying a message that they have to resort to a child to do it, then… Read more »

Neptunia
Neptunia

Being on the autism spectrum does not equate to mental illness. Please educate yourself. Just because you may not have had an enquiring mind and deep social and environmental conscience at age 16 does not mean all 16-year olds (especially female teenagers) who dare to speak up for a voiceless planet, are “disturbed”. Different is what we need. Stop crucifying young women for being different. Thunberg has made it clear: don’t listen to her — listen to SCIENTISTS. She is not making it a leftist issue. By chance (by brains), climate change has been championed by people who are socially… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

I totally agree with Prowln, what kind of a parent would allow their child on to the world stage with this plethora of vulnerabilities? Maybe acting families are used to this kind of behaviour, they have certainly made bank off public discontent and their child’s ability to channel that. Greta has said she has mental health issues, as well as ‘autism’, so the wording here is correct. Prowln to my knowledge is highly educated in and I believe has worked in this area. ASD is a set of symptoms, so other symptoms will include mental health issues most of the… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

I don’t know if you actually went beyond Prowlin’s first 2 paragraphs, but the rest of her comment is totally political and the sort of thing you’d read in the comments section of a Murdoch tabloid. It’s a beauty of a comment though – first time i’ve read that this is all the fault of the “screechy, pompous, preachy Left….. with a rather hysterical point of view on these subjects” – but this opinion is not political of course, lol.

sphinx
sphinx

Ok a generalised depiction of the far left is a screeching, micromanaging, fascist harpy nanny beast in the same way that a far right depiction is of a Murdoch-style obese, cruel, salivating, CEO in a pin stripe suit. Beyond that is where we all want to be was what I took away from this!

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

I’m just gonna come out and say it. Using my Gemini logic and Taurean moon common sense. Most of these climate deniers and 80s infused fat cats are a certain age. In about 20 to 30 years they will leave the planet. So we won’t have to put up with them anymore. And as they leave a lot more little people will come into the world fresh with no baggage. What we are seeing now is the old fat cats hanging on with dear life to stupid old ways. When they lose their grip it will.make it a lot easier… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

I really hope so. It’s just I don’t think we have that long to put the brakes on.

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Yes we don’t have long to put on the brakes.

But at least the new kids on the block have this to look forward to.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini

There was indeed something electrifying about her speech, but the whole background of her situation (stage mother, celebrity PR manager, Soros somehow involved (!) etc) makes me question a lot of things. Obviously, she is an intelligent person and seems genuinely passionate about climate change, but there is more to this story and I will wait to see how it unfolds.

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

I think a lot of teenage girls throughout time have had her passion and single-mindedness, but now is the time for them to have a voice. She’s unlocked something that’s been waiting for an outlet.

And another part of me thinks that Gen Z’s revenge will be them never moving out of home.

emgMM Member
emg

Now that’s very true !

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I agree! Many never received a platform to be heard. I’m glad she is being heard!

Double StelliumMM Member
Double Stellium

I am deeply grateful for Greta and all the school students speaking out on this issue. Hopefully politicians will wake up and listen to them. They haven’t listened to me or other Gen Xers.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

They won’t listen to anyone unless it makes them $$$.
If it hurts their profits then they’ll listen.

emgMM Member
emg

She really is acting out this Astro of hers.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini
joolzMM Member
joolz

Even if it is orchestrated ***** WHO CARES??******* I work in advertising. Shit is orchestrated and paid for every second of every day for far, far worse ends. Same in politics, business, the justice system. Please. We’re going to demand complete purity from a kid speaking truth to power but Amazon doesn’t have to pay federal taxes or health insurance? NOPE.

flashfireMM Member
flashfire

Love this response. You’re so right, Joolz

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Agree 100%

PicalilliMM Member
Picalilli

you’ve already lost if you’re relying on the daily mail to flesh out your argument

Neptunia
Neptunia

Quoting Daily Mail with a straight face… my word.

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

“When haters go after your looks and differences, it means they have nowhere left to go. And then you know you’re winning.” Greta’s Twitter response And absolutely fuqing correct I spent my 20s apologising to people at dinner parties when, after I backed them into a corner logically, they attacked me personally. I used to say I’m so sorry that you feel inadequate or wrong, but I do enjoy a good debate, and sorry that you felt so vulnerable you had to attack me personally. I am also SO happy some young women are shunning the social media/obsession with their… Read more »

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

I like the way you think G !

x.

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Read that attack well HOW DARE THEY!
Actually that phase was one of my most used mouth sprouts in the 80’s. Mostly aimed at men in positions of power. The other was ‘men have died for less’.
(not a man hater at all just in those years they were in charge of everything).

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Am stunned at the flack she is getting instead of accolades.
Can there possibly be so many unaware of the science…o dear what am i saying of course there is as they don’t read or feel……anything, anything at all.
What a champion AND she has the energy to keep the flame going now she’s lit it.

emgMM Member
emg

I’m sort of not surprised by the flack. If you vibe intense there’s nowhere else to go in response if you disagree and that speech was confrontational and damning. Granted I’m all for honest expression but then you’re simply going to get it back, so be prepared.

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Greta’s influence is threatening the whole capitalist system and the rich elites making even more money. There is so much bribery and corruption behind coal, gas, production, obsolescence, the ‘growth’ economy system that if people wake up and realise we have to change to renewable energy and a sustainable economy, the super rich won’t be able to profit as much and this scares the hell out of them. That she is a young *woman* daring to speak up, and is being listened to, enrages the rich old men so much they resort to abuse and bullying (and conspiracy theories). F*ck… Read more »

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Hello dear Yogi. WELL SAID. How delightfully threatened the system of greed are going to feel now this girl has the ball rolling. It will gather speed, it HAS to. It’s being said that adults are giving her the words. Do not believe that at all.

PiMM Member
Pi

Really interesting to see her astro. We’ve tried everything else, why not try an intently focused teenager giving voice to our collective frustration?

(Also, while I def get it, further studies, costly or otherwise, are still relevant.. sometimes in order to take corrective action at the best point, we need data to support the decisions, the public policy making (and accountability for spending public money) , and a way/benchmark to measure the effectiveness of our actions..)

emgMM Member
emg

The earth will survive it’s the humans who won’t

PiMM Member
Pi

Aye.

gbsMM Member
gbs

She is electrifying. Galvanizing. I can only assume that Jupiter in Capricorn next year—transiting her Sun, Moon, and Mercury—will only help her to amplify her message.

AstroGeekMM Member
AstroGeek

A casualty of her being of that generation though, is that now she’s a target for all kinds of social media hate b/c of the look of loathing she gave our Orange prez. 🙁

PiMM Member
Pi

I feel that she may use this as fuel?

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Orange or Peach ?

LOL !

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Peach as in
Impeachment

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

ha ha !

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Just watched it. Brilliant.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Yes. The first time I saw a picture – no actually it was a video, it made me jump a little- like the hairs on the back of your neck type of shudder- a kind of psychic response. She makes me so happy. The fact of her existing and everything about her. The way she carries herself, the Jaan of Arc meet Martin Luther King coolness. Wonderful contrast to most of what we see and yes, hope and a reason to keep watching and stay engaged. There’s something so important and also ordinary or perhaps natural is a better word… Read more »

Crystallised futureMM Member
Crystallised future

I dunno. I’ve lived long enough to be bored with the latest dictatorship/end of the world movement. Human bad behaviour will bring death to mankind via God’s smite, women’s rights to equal men, end all the wars, the anti-nuclear hysteria (completely reversed now with it being pushed as our energy dilemma saviour), anti-tobacco, save the planet but I’m not going to change my way of living – the latter must be almost spent now aye? We’ve got a rising tide again of all men are bastards and all women are innocent. Anyone else think human kind is geared to believe… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

To be fair, the anti nuclear movement was more about weapons. It is still a problematic energy source.. The women’s movement has been happening since the 1700s, I’d like to think we’ve made a bit of headway in some parts of the world there. Without civic action, the powers that be would still be at status quo. Climate change has very real impacts on food security, human health, water supplies, complex ecosystems and more. It’s frustrating because many people are not interested in evaluating how their behaviour (and significant business decisions) contribute to this bigger picture. The issue is that… Read more »

Crystallised futureMM Member
Crystallised future

I agree, and I think the passion in the current movement would be better directed at changing the way suppliers force us to use their product rather than throwing barbs at people who don’t have a choice or don’t want to be part of the argument. Politicians have power to change legislation but suppliers will do their utmost to keep a profitable situation going as it is to keep shareholders happy. There is a much bigger picture that needs to be addressed and I’d probably fling myself into the whole feud if it wasn’t about who can demonstrate the most… Read more »

Suzi EMM Member
Suzi E

Hey Mystic J, please check Lynda Hill’s page on Facebook. A birth time has been given for Greta… from another astrologer… as being 8.53am. Check it out and see what you think. 🤓

crisannmMM Member
crisannm

My daughter was also born at 8:53 am, and is Gen Z. Fun synchronicity.😀

melcMM Member
melc

I’m so excited for Gen-Z 💓🙌✨

dark starMM Member
dark star

I saw a 6 am birth time somewhere and hence a cappi moon conj pof conj transit pluto
w sun conj Saturn. Regardless, how rad and inspiring a person!

Striped HorseMM Member
Striped Horse

“We will never forgive you” – is this a classic unleashing of Mars in Scorpio or what?

Double StelliumMM Member
Double Stellium

I can see climate change deniers being burned or their heads placed on spikes if they continue to deliberately lead the world into disaster.

flashfireMM Member
flashfire

Yes! I will join the chorus chiming their adoration. I am so glad to see the fire burning in this generation! Yes to turning up the heat on the generations that came before and redirecting attention to the number one priority… the survival of the earth. Interesting also to see how these squares and oppositions operate in her fierce being. I read an interview with her yesterday (in The Atlantic I think) where she talked about her Asperger’s Syndrome and how that helps her stay focused. Listening to her impassioned plea yesterday certainly made me reconsider my own culpability and… Read more »

flashfireMM Member
flashfire

Utterly Brilliant! Check out her staggeringly genius reply to Trump trolling: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/24/greta-thunberg-trump-twitter-bio

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Yes, I love that she represents the formidable power of the aspie. Go Greta!

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

I literally asked the ether today for you to do her chart. Thanks Mystic. Had to lol at the *dismembering baby penguins*
More power to her

ShazberryMM Member
Shazberry

I love her!!!! I also share a couple of her aspects!! Yay.

LexieMM Member
Lexie

You read my mind. I did my own astro sleuthing on Greta just yesterday. The girl is a power house, and Goddess do we need her. More like her? Thank Source! The might just be able to save us all.

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Thank God/dess for the Pluto in Sagittarius generation.

The earth needs them !

leotaurusscorpMM Member
leotaurusscorp

love her. she gives me hope too. and these guys are gonna be of voting age next election…i wept watching her.

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

My favourite little person was a Pluto in Sag, A Sag with Scorpio Rising.

I first met her when she was 3. She was so fierce she scared this Gen X er.

She was my muse and life coach. I miss her dearly. She saved my life in a a very profound Scorpionic way. I miss and love her dearly.

x.

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

Greta is amazing – she commands attention & she certainly has mine!

MightyShellMM Member
MightyShell

She made me weep. Just the hard-core “how dare you!” sums up everything we want to say to gazillionaire fat cats who dine at the White House together and discuss going to Mars and how to keep others out of their country and away from their money. The saddest thing is: I was like Greta in the late 80s/ early 90s (minus her world fame.) I was the weepy, terrified, enviro-aware Gen X (Pluto in Libra) kid who tried desperately to inform everyone of the horrors of global warming that were starting to accelerate. I remember at 13 telling the… Read more »

cynthiaMM Member
cynthia

Yes nicely articulated. Thanks. What makes evolution so achingly slow? Me, myself and I !!!

Leamacka
Leamacka

Oh me too. And I keep saying this isn’t a hoax, we knew and the predictions were for now, and they’re coming true. I love her. I was her. I am her. She is incredible and I stand beside her.

Leamacka
Leamacka

I just also want to say that action did happen. We created whole movements that lowered the cost of recycling, amazing new technologies have been created that pull carbon out of the air and make water drinkable when it isn’t. Electric cars and hybrids wouldn’t be here if we hadn’t fought for them. So we just need to keep going.

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