Leo Self-Limiting Syndrome

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Most Summaries Of Leo Personality Traits Leave Out The Most Important One

Any rundown of Leo personality traits will mention their creative psyche, love of glamor and fully-primed ego. But few descriptions feature their Self-Limiting Syndrome, although it is probably the primary challenge for people with Leo Sun, Moon or Rising sign to overcome. Think also Venus or Mars in Leo people.

Nobody begrudges Leo their love of dramatic entrances or high emotions around music and cinema. And if they want to delusionally identify with a celebrity, so what? Their A-Lister spending on a D-Lister budget? If anyone can use expensive tastes to motivate a technically impossible career trajectory, it will be a Leo type personality.

They don’t need to be taught creative visualization; they know it from birth. Leos have impeccable style instincts and authentically adore culture. Every move they make comes from a creative impulse and even their aura is telegenic. They make scenes, hog stages and only keep touching their hair so they can adjust that invisible crown or tiara.

They Only Keep Touching Their Hair To Adjust Their Invisible Crown

These Leo personality traits are not usually a problem. The world is full of people happy to cast Leos as their leading lady or man. Or to be cast as the love interest/villain/best friend in a soap-operatic Leonine rom-com.

But the Self-Limiting Syndrome will clobber them if they don’t vigorously combat it at all turns. What is it? Essentially, when the Leo Sun, Rising or Moon sign person sets a goal, they subliminally feel that their innate chutzpah should be enough. That it is their rightful realm or due.

And that they won’t attempt something if they are not already demonstrably good at it. Exaggerating to make the point, they don’t want to show up at the local council meeting because they’re not Angelina at the U.N. or convening a trial at the Hague. Or they’re not Wimbledon ranked so screw that friendly tennis match. They want to act but don’t want to list themselves on a casting site because, well, name recognition should circumvent that sort of thing.

Leo Self-Limiting Syndrome doesn’t come from lack of courage or belief in themselves; it happens because to be Leo is to be perpetually haunted by the best in and of everything.

But luckily, they are immune to Phantom Deficit Syndrome because they are, at least, inner-directed.

Thoughts?

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jonesthewriterMM Member
jonesthewriter

Yep. This is completely and one hundred per cent me. This line… ‘And that they won’t attempt something if they are not already demonstrably good at it.’ Oof! You got me. Can you read my mind, Mystic? 😛

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I have Chiron (natal) in the 5th House, and a Leo Midheaven. I too suffer from Phantom Deficit Syndrome (sometimes).
I am happy until I start comparing myself with others. Normies and their normie goals.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

My sun progressed into Leo about a year ago. The ego boost was a life saviour to boost resistance to muggles. Ego used wisely is not a dirty word.

Oh and I’ve always had fabulous hair. And my Jupiter is in Leo natally.

Me ooow and Roar !

PiMM Member
Pi

Ah now I get it. How lovely. 3 decades of progressed Leo sun.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

I’m glad you got it. Bring on the roar.

Or maybe start with a me oow !

leoleoMM Member
leoleo

I feel seen, thank you. Now cue all the anti-Leo comments……..

PiMM Member
Pi

How about Self-Absorbed Leo syndrome? Seems more common in my circle right now. Ive stopped feeding the closest one’s Gemini moon now that I’ve learnt that my genuine support and whatever for the latest drama is simply run through the filter of Me Attention Now and thats about it. Thanksbutnothanks.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Because the SAL syndrome has been done to death. Not that i would notice *tosses fabulous fuqing mane of a leonine stellium & Moon*

PiMM Member
Pi

Believe me I understand. Normally I would not write something like this. But I’m currently v much dealing with a leo at close quarters and am experiencing the gulf between the leo and Pisces mindset. So this fish has carefully withdrawn her support pending further intelligence.
Either way with Saturn in leo, this post is extremely relevant for me too love, as was mystics other one a couple of years ago. Now I have progressed moon and ASC in leo and something’s def changing.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Hey Pi, transitioning into Leo Sun and Moon is huge. I think subconsciously you realise that this support should be going to your fledgling inner lioness not to a fully formed Leo. I’m glad you are getting distance from this person. Going into Leo feels like coming out of the cold and feeling warm sunshine on your back. You need the space to feel this positivity. Me too Neptune ruled and the transition stage can be confusing. So eliminating anything that gets in the way of this is understandable. And you may notice that as you settle more the negatively… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Thanks lovely. This is valuable words. X

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

I’m so glad it helped. And thanks for your appreciation. We fishies have to be discerning with who we help. If it is not appreciated : feel the sting and move on. There is an art to finding fertile ground. I think the current Neptune vibe is helping me. God knows I remember times of casting pearls amongst swine. It leaves you feeling empty and jaded. But at the time I had no boundaries. Now I try to deploy my Taurus Moon more. I use my gut instincts and cautiously sniff around before I engage. And believe me this is… Read more »

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Just to add. I may seem like I have it all together and have wise words

But my psychologist said to me quite pointedly.

Gee you are very good at giving compassion to others but not to yourself. I was left speechless. It was a profound moment.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

mmmm. This thread has got me going. Excuse me while I think aloud.

So that empty place that feels uncomfortable and skittish I deflect with giving compassion and wisdom outwards. Whereas I need to be present with this cavern, feel the pain, release and redirect the compassion and wisdom inwards to heal.

Thank God I’ve written it down. Now I have a point of reference I can’t run away from.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Joy: self discovery. This outward compassion trait manifested so easily in this forum as I love to write and be amongst intelligent people.

Thank you Mystic and peeps. And I think this thought process is the effect of a Leo Sun feeling a bit resentful at times to be honest.

So I need to shut up the compassion shop for renovations and to work on myself.

I wonder what the new place will be like? mmmmm

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Gee what a day. After the last comment I spiralled into an emotional abyss for no reason. I eventually did the Uranus in Taurus and Pluto meditation. They worked. My departed.mum had to come thorough to comfort me. That doesn’t happen often.

Then I check the moon diary and the moon was conjunct Pluto in Capricorn at 22 at about 3.55pm today.
Suppressed emotions coming to the surface. No kidding. This was spot on.

I feel much better now. But what I wrote earlier today is shadow stuff I still need to work on.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

I’m much better now. In bed all day sleeping. My sacral area has been shifting old baggage. How Plutonic.

Did anyone else have deep, suppressed emotions come up beside me and Lightening Butterfly? Maybe it was a Gemini thing. We both wrote about it in today’s daily horoscope.

Anyhow look how much space I took up above. I feel like I have gained this space with my sacral emotional area.

Anyhow thanks for putting up with my monologue.

PiMM Member
Pi

I’m glad the monologue helped you figure out something important x

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Thanks Pi.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Sorry to hear you’re having a hard time of it, Pi.
Fwiw, I understand the gulf you talk of only too well. I grew up with a Pisces mother & a Leo father & I’m still trying to get over it.

PiMM Member
Pi

It’s better now. I liked the mane toss btw ;p Cancerian Leo energy is nice because of the addition of water. I keep forgetting you’re a multi leo. The leo I’m at close quarters with has many good qualities obviously. I think she’s part of my saturn through 7th house transit. Managing other people, managing myself, defining myself. There’s that useful rule to remember , to do a transit, work on the opposite house. First house for me.

AJMM Member
AJ

how I wish upon all the stars that this wasn’t precisely true…stellium in leo here and leo sun in my 6th house. We don’t want to be an extra, we want the lead role right off the bat…yes, somewhat unreasonable but to think of ourselves any less just doesn’t feel right in some regard. AND If its not the lead role, we don’t want it at all…going virgo on my goals is the only remedy to this situation which helps me bring the “realism” of the world back in focus.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

True point–Going Virgo on the goals. My Mars and Sun are in Leo and I’m only just beginning to harvest the best parts of having a Virgo stellium.

Tam
Tam

Yep sun12 house, rising, Venus, in Leo, but whatever, all I know is pettiness and whining piss me off

Secret SaggMM Member
Secret Sagg

Thanks for this insight, Mystic! My Leo Moon, being heavily afflicted (all squares and opposition) can relate……..situation not helped by Libra Ascendant indecisiveness either. The only solution I’ve ever come up with is (secret) practice makes perfect.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Ohhh I am WELL aware of this one, with Mars and Merc in Leo.

*makes film*–But I didn’t win a Oscar–failure!
*loses weight*–But I’m not a Vogue covermodel–failure!
*writes novel*-Where is my Pulitzer?

ScorpleocapMM Member
Scorpleocap

Ping! Another light-bulb moment. So true. A big lesson for me has been understanding that I must stay grounded, that I must take small concrete steps from the ground up to achieve what I want, as this is a universal truth, regardless of how much chutzpah! Also, that it’s okay to be just ordinary and rejected at times – it’s better to be out there having a go than to get to the end of your life without regrets. Still very much a work in progress though. There’s a base tendency to want to swan around in a swamp of… Read more »

TaraMM Member
Tara

Interesting post!

I have very early virgo rising – with a stellium in late leo ( mars, north node, Jupiter ) and my AC at 2 Virgo. When people try to guess my sign the always guess Leo – and it always makes me laugh because I see myself as the opposite of confident . I’ve always had the self limiting behavior which I mostly blame on virgo ascendant and first house Saturn. Trying hard to change it all…

gemini catMM Member
gemini cat

What’s the cure? I’ve had this problem all my life — chart-ruling Saturn-Mars in Leo with 5th house Sun and Mercury. A quote from Picasso has helped me a lot: “Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working.” That has encouraged me to try things and have faith being great will happen if I keep at it. But it doesn’t hold out long enough if I don’t get some kind of validation, and I’m reluctant to show my work unless I think it’s great. (Also too shy to have anyone to show it to.) At times it has helped… Read more »

amazonalisonMM Member
amazonalison

I have a loaded fifth house and this made me feel seen.

prowlncrabMM Member
prowlncrab

I would also say that 12th house Leo sun is far more muted and introverted than a Leo sun (or planets) in other houses. My mum is a 12th house sun, mars and pluto in Leo so you would have no idea she was one until you really get to know her …. mum’s ego, plus the legendary Leo stubborn pride comes out with her Moon/Venus in Gemini and the trifecta of 9th house Taurus Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus – travel, education, books have been her lifelong “thing”. She occasionally succumbs to pageantry …. like hating religion but going to… Read more »

narelle
narelle

I have that placement too, I was a very extroverted child, but had issues as I got older with insecurity

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

OMG me. Leo rising. Plus Cap moon for always being aware of where/how one is not good enough.

ScorpleocapMM Member
Scorpleocap

Aah yes, Leo rising Cap moon here too, Chrysalis. And then Saturn in Virgo squished into my first house too for an extra “aargh I’m not good enough” sort of vibe.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I forgot to add that my moon is 5th house so it’s all the Leonine stuff for me. My big life challenge.

Stella PolarisMM Member
Stella Polaris

Doing Sun, not Saturn.

AntaresRisingMM Member
AntaresRising

Hang in there Jokerman. Remember that you are loved ! x

Hey Pi, I hope you are feeling better? x

MightyShellMM Member
MightyShell

Ahh, this explains a lot! I was dating a Leo guy last year – early 30s, cute in a Michael Buble kinda way – and he was heavily into theatre. As in, he didn’t work (rich parents) so he spent his time being “an actahh” in amateur theatre and fringe productions. He lived in another city (we had a long-distance, shag buddy type of relationship) but I got the gist he was quite good as he was always getting cast in decent roles and solid reviews. The strange thing was, whenever I insisted he get an agent and try to… Read more »

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Ever get hired to do a cheesy commercial? Some are quite embarrassing. 🙁 It sounds like he has an idea of what he wants to do exactly and doesn’t want to do the paid tv commercials to work up to other/better roles which most agents will push so they can get paid. I have friends who are shameless, ( no judgment) they aren’t picky and did commercials to get better roles. They were very flexible easy going types too didn’t take life very seriously. It gets a great sense of humor/self-confidence to not take anything too seriously! Other friends and… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I absolutely am this. My Leo sun is squared by my Uranus Scorpio ascendant. Just in case that wasn’t ouchy enough, I have Saturn Leo in the tenth. I have chutzpah but sometimes it can’t come out because it feels like a liability.

lindapetersMM Member
lindapeters

True. As a child I was so sensitive to criticism. Still am. My mother told me she thought I’d be an artist because I spent so much time drawing/painting but a male art teacher in high school wiped the floor with me and I dropped art the following year such was my humiliation. And that’s occurred all through my life. I still recall bursting into tears at primary school because I couldn’t understand a maths problem. My mother once commented to someone with derision that I had to have everything of the best and be the best. Self-limiting syndrome. I… Read more »

ScorpleocapMM Member
Scorpleocap

This reminds me of my childhood so much!

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Sensitive artist type? introvert? Don’t despair. Don’t let a blocked artist stop you from being an artist now.
Set yourself free. REBEL!! and then CREATE!
All acts of creation/art is a form of rebellion.