Karma Cop Saturn And Uncle Pluto

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The Saturn-Pluto conjunction feels more weighty on a Dark Moon. They’re both on the South Node of the Moon, unearthing hidden truths or memories. Mercury square Pluto makes it easier for thoughtful insights on dark topics. Secrets and somber realizations slither up from the labyrinth in your psyche. Vaults are opening.

It’s the sort of astro where you’re drawn to do anything that might muffle it: Neptunian substances, e-stalking, suddenly implemented big projects, emotional shopping, sugar, mindless devouring of irrelevant media.

But, if you confront whatever is slithering around it is, of course, so empowering. Practically everyone you meet this Dark Moon, every dynamic, evokes a Shadow Self, secret, or psychic bruise.

What’s more, Karma Cop Saturn and Uncle Pluto have company! Arawn, a Trans-Neptunian object named after the Celtic Underworld God, is between Saturn and Pluto. It’s a chthonic Dark Moon when all Mars-Jupiter wants to do is banquet, score loot and be witty.

But remember; Mercury square Pluto means that this Dark Moon is highly informative. It’s potent until the New Moon.

So, how are you reclaiming your shadows?

 

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Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Happy New Moon in Taurus to all you Taurus natives. Sizzle in your Sensuality.
Enjoy every morsel of your fine food. Hey why not go all out and order a brand new sofa cover.

And for goodness sake have a good belly laugh.

Love and laughter to everyone !

Lotus AMM Member
Lotus A

2 months ago my ex husband, friend and father of our adult children, passed away unexpectedly. I had been helping him out as he had been unwell. Due to all this I quit my job and relocated. ‘I have been house hopping with family and friends since then. I am now in my childhood home town as my father is in palliative care. The ghosts of my childhood are everywhere in a place with strangling conservatism. It’s like experiencing a past life that you’d rather forget about. I always feel relieved when I leave. I am at a loss of… Read more »

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Of course you’ve lost your mojo. You have lost someone very dear.

Take it easy Lotus. Be kind and gentle with yourself.

Lotus AMM Member
Lotus A

Thank you AntaresRising

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

I’m empathising and commisserating with you here. I too lost someone close to me a few weeks ago – the funeral back home is this week. And I also feel this sense of having lost some little part of myself recently and my feeling of joy, creativity, mojo. These are major stresses and de-presses that you are going through. I have no answers (other than digestive bitters – they help, I discovered this winter) and am just sending you a hug or a hand squeeze through the ether x

Lotus AMM Member
Lotus A

Thank you. I will check out the bitters. Hugs to you on your journey xo

Jokerman
Jokerman

You are a special person to do that. What you’ve been thru is sapping, not just physically, but your very being. I recognize a lot of what you’ve said. I hope you can soon find solace.

Lotus AMM Member
Lotus A

Thank you xo

Sally WildeMM Member
Sally Wilde

This is happening on top of my natal Saturn; my second Saturn return is almost exact. And natal Jupiter is there, too. A little nervous… I just took a job with an organization for aging and dementia issues. It’s extremely exciting, with new discoveries and heartbreaks every day—the stakes are high. My Capricorn ex, an addict, conspiracy freak, and a tad narcissist, is dying—and he still looks so good and charming that women from our pasts are lining up on social media offering to jump his bones. I’ve certainly thought about a last hurrah, but self-preservation intervenes. Did I mention… Read more »

RubentMM Member
Rubent

Also, just found this in my bookmark:
https://mysticmedusa.com/2018/11/this-is-relevant-for-every-pluto-transit-ever/
Regarding shadow selves!

RubentMM Member
Rubent

On a Taurus New Moon I am even more against the idea of ‘fake it til yuh make it’ Becoming is slow, but I already am what I’m becoming, just refining and having to trust with fait more than ‘see’ the end result and thus try and emulate it. Dismantling Ego in order to make space for the more tender and vulnerable bits of me to come down and into life – that parts that the ego once upon a time protected well, but has come to imprison them. I am capable of being addicted to my fantasies just as… Read more »

rambullMM Member
rambull

Is this why I have been having more lucid dreams than usual? I’m starving hungry all the time, day dreaming about the next meal, beating myself up about being lazy, feeling sorry for myself ? Lol my realising who negative I am !! But unable to see a way out of my funky funk)

neptuniaMM Member
neptunia

Hee Hee! By ordering a few (too many !! Apologies to the Mystic Dream team..you must think I’m nuts by now!!! lol!) Soul Mating Reports from the Mystic shop of past loves and even one for my true soul mate/spirit animal, Max, who passed away in January !! It has been a strange time….a neighbourhood dog (who sounds uncannily like my boy, Max) has been howling here and there since Max passed….last night he was howling all night …i really wanted to comfort him but don’t know where he lives so comforted him sending him love through my heart. It… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

You and I both, Neptunia… a Saturday night home alone on a dark moon and I finally took the plunge to look at the soulmating charts for the two most significant men in my life to date. I can’t believe how bang-on they both were. Years ago I might have fuelled up on blue devil to read them and feel sorry for myself but it’s a lot different now. They really helped me get some new perspective. And sorry to hear of the passing of your beloved doggo. I believe the bonds between animals and their humans are unbreakable, and… Read more »

neptuniaMM Member
neptunia

I totally agree, Chrysalis, A very different and new approach for me too. I am looking forward to gaining a new perspective when I receive and read them. I used to say I had trust issues and then a wise person told me that it wasn’t my issue if others have betrayed you…..it is okay to take time to trust and if it sits well with my own sense of reason. Thank you for your thoughts for Max the Doggo …and I totally agree that they choose us which was very much the case with Maxy and the circumstances surrounding… Read more »

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Mystic I’m just listening to your super fab Saturn Pluto audio and keep stopping to do research on my chart and houses etc. How does CERES and Mercury contribute to this conjunction? I have both 2deg apart in Taurus 4th. AND when will you start producing the Year ahead for 2020 bc I think your going to be in big demand!

birdMM Member
bird

Like many others here, my relationship with my mother has come into the spotlight again, like an old sports injury. Lots of focus on healing the maternal ancestral line.

And my joints! WTF? I have a robust physical body but in the last 2 weeks I’ve injured my shoulder, which was intensely painful but healed remarkably quickly, and now I have hip pain. Limping around. Left shoulder, left hip. Saturn-Pluto conjunction – the action is in my 6th house.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I’ve had hip stiffness as well. Never had a problem with my hips, so it’s such an odd sensation after laying down or sitting for a while.

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Same here! Very weird for me. I kind of abandoned yoga in my enthusiasm for weight lifting… I think it’s time to go back.

seawitchmermaidMM Member
seawitchmermaid

I could really use a restorative weekend but that seems impossible right now. However I woke up sick this morning and have been in my pajamas all day and am trying to not feel bad about everything I’m not getting done, so… close enough? Lol. This astro right now is whack. New Moon in my 8th, Saturn/Pluto in my fourth, Saturn heading back to my IC.

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

Saturn and Pluto have been transiting my 12th house for awhile now, along with the South Node. So… I have actually been living in this sphere or is it the Abyss? Just imagine, Pluto, Saturn and the South Node are conjunct as everyone feels this.. now stick that in your 12th house! Only thing worse would probably be if it were in the 8th.

Jokerman
Jokerman

It’s the worst when it’s in the house of your chart ruler’s residence. I may have mentioned mine once or twice.

narelle
narelle

I have natal Saturn in the 12th

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Me too narelle
And in the middle of my second Saturn return
Patiently awaiting my good Karma

Jokerman
Jokerman

If I may ask what house is Saturn and Nodes and Pluto in for you?

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Saturn in 12th, Pluto in 9th, north node in 10 in Libra

Jokerman
Jokerman

So is all this Saturn Pluto NN happening in your 12th?…I imagine.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Super dark moon here. One of my best friends died at the tail end of the void moon in Pisces. She had been fighting cancer, a rare one that was difficult to diagnose and even harder to treat. She didn’t have a chance, really. Super sad but at least her pain is over. Pluto is opposing my 8th house Moon. Have you seen the previews on HBO for the new miniseries about Chernobyl, where the title letters are disintegrating like the results of a nuclear fallout? That’s kinda me right now. If anyone knows of a nice fire ritual I… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I dunno about no fire ritual but grief takes time, arrive in your own time. It’s what I’m learning.

birdMM Member
bird

I’m sorry about your friend’s death. Sending a blessing out to her. Regarding your ritual, I just seal the space with light, specify that I only work with those aligned with love, call in the guides, ancestors and star families, and request a gateway for transition be set up. Usually it appears to me as a vortex or column of light, but sometimes I don’t “see” anything, just feel peace and freedom. I talk to the person who has crossed over, and reassure them if they feel agitated or upset. I say prayers of love for their continuing evolution, and… Read more »

SheRatMM Member
SheRat

So sorry to hear about your friend. Was she a fire sign? I’ve mentioned before how I spent the zap zone with a bunch of my friends dying…one of the great things about rituals being, well, ritualistic, is that inside the form they allow for creativity. What would your friend want to do if she were with you? Can you imagine talking to her about the fire ritual?

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

She was Taurus with Cancer moon, Cap rising, she passed two days before her 51st birthday, leaving two children under 14 behind. Uranus had just crossed her IC. I’ve connected with her, she knows. She’s gone. There’s no need to usher her anywhere. She ran as fast as she could I think, no lingering. Hightailed it outta here and can’t say I blame her, she’d had it rough for the last few years. Was diagnosed with a rare cancer the last week of March and was gone by April 30. The shock of it is beginning to wear off a… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Smoke is nice. Incense or smoky leaves, as a message or a pathway to the heavens (and the stars). Hugs. X

neptuniaMM Member
neptunia

Very sorry about your friends passing….sending you love and light xxx

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Rituals are beautiful releases. And release comes in layers. You may have one ritual with a number of elements in it, as the first one. This first ritual may then sprout other rites over time. Sounds like smoke and flame will be part of many of them, maybe all in some way. Blessings on the path of your friend making her way to essence, and for you in your love and mourning xx

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

By telling I have previous arrangement for saturday night (DM peak) when in fact I don’t and screew my Saint Virgo paranoia.
Jokes aside: every interaction is very potent now. I wish I could sleep. Damn Dark Moon.

LibraLilithMM Member
LibraLilith

We have a bank holiday weekend – I’m planning a 3 day retreat. Eat vegan, yoga, meditation, silence, limited tech. Going to drive up to the brecons for a walk round the waterfalls. Consciously trying to break some very old patterns in relationships.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Such a beautiful part of the world, great memories from childhood x

SheRatMM Member
SheRat

My bike, CharlieWatts, got stolen *again.* I think it might be for the best as I was planning all sorts of things I probably shouldna been planning instead of focusing on a massive deadline. Along with annoying tech issues, this seems like some merc Rx to me. But it is still a heartbreak; I loved that bike. I feel like going into hibernation until this deadline, in actual fact (end of May). Something to remember: Guess who is at 18 Capricorn right now? Persephone. Maybe it’s time for this moon cycle to join Saturn, Pluto and Persephone in the underworld… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

She at 18°!!! Midpoint opposition to my Sun and Asc, just another iron in the fire. Confluence incongruence!!!

And you don’t call your bike “Charlie Kilowatts”? Did you get it back?

SheRatMM Member
SheRat

I know! She’s squaring with my Uran/Moon/Lillitch conj.

CharlieWatts MAN!!! He was stolen already back in January–I am not so sure I’ll get him back this time–from right in front of my house but in the wrong neighborhood….have no juice where I live to find out who or where like last time.

Why can’t I find a nice Honda NT650 88 – 92 in the UK?

Jokerman
Jokerman

I wished you liked BMWs and Ducatis.

SheRatMM Member
SheRat

I think the compromise there might be Guzzi or Triumph?

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ok, I could tolerate a Guzzi.

ponycat
ponycat

Dreamt my shadow self popped open the window in my house and came in telling me she couldn’t believe I hadn’t noticed she did this all the time. Couldn’t I tell by how happy my cats are? I like her.

StarinspiredMM Member
Starinspired

Actually it feels like they’re doing the reclaiming…

stargazerMM Member
stargazer

I’m being compelled to look at money, resources and relationships…but I know it’ll be ‘healthier’ eventually. Re-joining employment outside the home (hopefully) after years of parenting and caring for dying/dead family. So reviewing income sources and capabilities, what I owe etc etc. Cap is my opposite sign (relationships?) – Scorp brother (verbally abusively) projecting his choices/regrets re caring for our mum on to me that it’s my fault he doesn’t want to be there any more. He seems to go through the 7 year cycle leaving his partner in 2012 and looks as though he’s at another review stage…I’ve told… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

Rags to Riches- My late Virgo/Gem son accepted to law school on a full scholarship. Years of busting it out- rewarded. For me-Saturn Return2 pension after years of struggle.

Revealed under the blue light- true qi vamps- and true friends.

Struggle- planning grad party- with qi vamp mom/daughter duo. See under true friends vs…

gbsMM Member
gbs

Seeing so clearly what a horror show my relationship has been with my mother, all my life really.

This is absolutely not a new realization, but before I’ve always tried to rationalize away the hurt by talking about the ways I’ve grown from having the mother I do.

This time I’m just feeling the pain of it.

ScorpintheSky
ScorpintheSky

Congrats for sitting with pain. You will reap the rewards even though it just sucks now.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m a Cancer man and I jettisoned my mother. If I can, you can too.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Well done – I’m silently cheering you on from the sidelines. I have been through similar. After decades of working to get her approval, doing thankless emotional labour trying to figure out the reasons for her behaviour, being angry and self-sabotaging then getting therapy when Pluto transited my 4th, I finally – too many years past Chiron return – found acceptance. It doesn’t matter about the why – she is a mean, manipulative, narcissistic woman – not to mention drug-fuqued. (I have Neptune on the IC – go figure.) I don’t love her, I don’t even like her, although I… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Yes. Just because the person is not physically present for some reason, doesn’t mean the relationship goes away with them. That is the part we always remain in dialogue with.. but even that can change, with time, and sitting with the emotion of the moment is a brave thing to do, sometimes the feeling we need to sit through sans avoidance can take years for us to feel strong enough to face, to be in company with..

LiliMM Member
Lili

A Cautionary Tale- Uncle Pluto’s Enforcers meet Saturn’s Imperial Tax Service For years our local lion exec reigned, with his minions. He is dying and as his power wanes, Uncle (Sam) Pluto rolls up with his nephew, Saturn, The Tax Man. The prosperous kingdom owes millions in taxes/penalties to Uncle Sam-Pluto. For decades the kingdom ignored a tax rule- on waiting before re-hiring. So simple. So Saturnine. So expensive. Just retired deputy sheriffs double collected public pensions- and their new salaries. Twas a new pension manager that changed the game: In disbelief- “You do WHAAT?” And he blew the whistle.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

No shit!
And personally Lilith opp my Mars cj Pluto.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Lilith opp my Venus-Pluto.
I feel both serene AND ready to snap someone’s head off.

Jokerman
Jokerman

It’s an internal male-female thing I’m feeling. It was on our Chiron too so very agitative, at least from my perspective. Also I’ve been aggressively, fuck assertively, assessing myself.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Was eating choc as i read this…but soooo bang on

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Well…having a banquet Saturday night with 3 respected friends.
We have known each other for eons, collaborating in the 80’s & 90’s with visual music, quite a concept then and only meet ensemble every now and then. I was the financier//promoter/manager, they the genii artists worth the investment. A Pisces, Aries, Virgo and Sagg are we 4.
With the astro as is couldn’t be a more interesting time. Twill make for quite an eve methinks.
ARAWN? Ok that energy is welcome to participate with us and probably WILL 🙂

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

I am realising that my drinking is a problem. I can’t solve this problem on my own so I am seeking help.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Well done on having the courage to tell the truth to yourself. Someone on this blog once recommended Hip Sobriety, you may find it an interesting read. Blessings to you xx

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks Chrysalis.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I wished I could ‘hairy eye-ball’ you and, benignly, verbalize an affirmative “No!”

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Hey JM , not sure who you are talking to or what you mean. Please Explain?

Jokerman
Jokerman

Just some friendly exhortation to help you get off the drink issue…sort of meaning my eyes say more than my words.

Sometimes I lose where the tread is going to

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Oh I get I now JM , Thanks.

Jokerman
Jokerman

A bit like a Steve McQueen ‘death stare’ but with a benevolent softening as if to impart seriousness with love. But I had excellent health news today. I went to see an Ayurveda Health lady in Byron today. She gave me a good practical eating regime, herbs and such, for cancer and what causes it. She was excellent and said biopsies are not recommended as there is a real risk of spreading negative growths futher in the organ concerned and it’s surrounds. It has been the best news and I feel so much better. Esp as the Moon nears the… Read more »

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks for the death stare. And again thanks for the Uranium bolt of lightning that woke up this Taurus Moon. Ayveda is great. I remember seeing a lady in Maleny when I lived there. I remember she gave me an essential oil blend to burn at bed time. Never in my lifetime have I ever experienced such an emotional journey with essential oils. It was suited to me especially. All about the heart. The herbs she gave me really relaxed me too. They reach places that western medicine doesnt. I find their eating routines a lot gentler on the soul.… Read more »

birdMM Member
bird

Someone else here recommended reddit – the stopdrinking group. It’s a great resource of support, info and motivation. And MM put me into the book – This Naked Mind. Game changer. Good luck to you xx

Wish Upon a StarMM Member
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks peeps. I am in the process of getting into a good rehab program and then transitional housing. So this is a very thorough process – Saturn style it appears.

JanMM Member
Jan

I’ve been going to physiotherapy during these transits for a shitty knee. An injury that recurs every year or two. My work is highly physical and my boss recommended this crazy good physio clinic. It’s an experience; I’ve had tonnes of scans, testing, massage, taping, accupuncture, cupping. Picked up a great deal of info – diagnosed with joint hypermobility disorder, most of my pain areas are all connected, and today they finally uncovered the cause of the shit knee. Abnormalities in the femur / hip socket throwing everything out. Thanks to the hypermobility I don’t have any idea of which… Read more »

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Isn’t the body fascinating. ‘Neurospeak’ is a THING.
By Robert Masters. It works a treat.
Best of luck with your new and upcoming body alignments.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Totally Pegasus.
I also loved his book on The Goddess Sekmet: Psychospiritual Exercises of the 5th Way.

LiliMM Member
Lili

My Mergirl had great PT for hypermobile knee joints. (Is this a Neptune-fluid phenom?)

Kat
Kat

So THIS explains the current mood and feel!
I am Capricorn rising with Pluto and Saturn on my ascendent so it feels heavy AF lately.
Reflecting upon a friendship that has ended and the relationship with my mum which has become toxic and it’s time for me to cease contact.
My Taurus sun needs some relief right now. Bring on the new moon in Taurus ✨

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

This saturn rules Cap rising has ended a close toxic relationship as well. Sad and relieved.
Strangely the person in my karmically inclined but unsettling friendship had to divorce her mother due to distress it caused her. Sometimes it just has to happen between mother’s and daughters, that beneficial separation in the hope it can be healed in a decade or two. Or another lifetime-timeline.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Weirdly enough, the weather is just flicking into an overnight change from sunny to future rain, and the odour of a drain just wafted strong. I was thinking of all the Earth and Underground in your Taurus Sun, Cap Rising with Pluto Underground and Saturn (re)structuring. And now as i type it the odour has passed. With my own complicated once-close female friendships and mothering in mind, i couldn’t quite express what i wanted to pass on in solidarity, but then came this rather earthy sensual experience. I guess the old old bacterial toxins are recognised and releasing for you.… Read more »

StarinspiredMM Member
Starinspired

I feel ya!… A bit over the heavy really.
Saturn, Pluto & Sth Node on my Asc too & squaring my Libra Sun & stellium in 10th..
Also Chiron conjunct my IC & opposite my Pluto…
Fuq, I could go on, but it all starts to sound like white noise after that lot .
Currently observing myself singing songs spontaneously with themes of ‘home’ (wherever, whatever or whoever that is), about being a gypsy, & about taking flights/buying plane tickets etc.

PiMM Member
Pi

Well, my therapy sessions always seem to be timed on the dark moon, so that’s a thing..
Also the past couple of days kind of finding the feel good factor in straight-up giving people meaningful compliments. Appreciating them. Like, colleagues and friends, not random strangers necessarily haha

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Sometimes we are so absorbed that we forget the simple value of a compliment and the uplifting buzz it gives to both receiver AND giver.
Note to self: Give more appreciation to peoples close to me……and one always to you Pi.x

skarabMM Member
skarab

Love it – and you’re creating a feel good chain of positive reactions that expand like ripples across the planet. Even just a friendly smile does it.
Like the saying goes: be the change you wish to see in this world.

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

My shadows and memories have slipped into the underworld like a silken cloak falling from my witchy shoulders as I rambled towards a grounding sensibility or you know a light at the end of a tunnel. Would like some memories back just to clarify what the hell happened. I will just have wait and dream them.

PegasusMM Member
Pegasus

Believe memories are what we are made of when all is said and done. AND dreams aka night movies.
My nocturia gives me 3 remembered ones nightly, tho’ i’m sure you don’t need to pee that frequently to remember yours, Jacqui. 🙂

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