Venus Conjunct Neptune Vs Sun Square Saturn

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As per the Daily Mystic email for Wednesday’s today is cognitive dissonance to the max.

We have Venus conjunct Neptune (dreamy, surreal and romantic) versus Sun square Saturn (hard-edged, power-focal ambition.)

Venus-Neptunian Vibe is idealistic, conjuring up magical realism. It’s inspirational crushes, whimsical messaging, marshmallows, ghosts, perfume, art, and fantasy,

Sun square Saturn is ready to exile anyone who gets in their way. It is expedient and hyper-aware of time/money concerns. Choose one or opt for a weird hybrid version.

If it helps, here is a concise summary of my baseline Saturn tips. They’re particularly pertinent with an Aries Sun agitating Saturn for the next 40 hours.

Sun Square Saturn Tips

(1) In sex and money matters, anyone saying “it’s complicated” is mistaken. It’s not complicated, it’s simple. It’s just sleazy, flaky or illegal.

(2) Beauty is an inside job. For example, you can smear as much high-class gunk on your scalp or brows as you want but your hair won’t grow if your ferritin levels are low.

(3) Tax is an obligation and not worth the stress of resentment, even if you think the politicians are part of a corrupt corporate kleptocratic Ponzi scheme.

(4) Self-deprecation is an unaffordable luxury in this era. Don’t devalue yourself.

And, lest you think that Saturn aspects are a buzz-kill, no they are not. Below is the Sun square Saturn delineation from my natal Astral DNA birth chart report.

Focus and a keen sense of fighting against adversity is an inbuilt feature with this lot. They’re here for a long time – not necessarily a good time. They specialize in rags to riches and doing whatever the hell it takes to come out on top. They’re likely a hell of a lot more insecure about their innate worth than their super-together appearance suggests. Starhawk – the prototypal eco-feminist-Pagan and author of The Spiral Dance is a Sun-square-Saturn person: “Unless I have enough personal power to keep commitments in my daily life, I will be unable to wield magical power.”  They often feel alienated by their very stoic powers of focus and ability to thrive in solitude.

 

Sun square Saturn

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babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

“Self-deprecation is an unaffordable luxury in this era. Don’t devalue yourself.”
That should be on a bumper sticker

skarabMM Member
skarab

Well i just witnessed – AGAIN – a moron phone addict walk in front of traffic & get hit by a car. Looks like he’s got a few broken ribs according to the paramedicos.
Is this Venus-Neptune meets Sun sq Saturn?

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

yes, especially if they were texting a former love interest

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I’m one part sugar-haired pinup girl, one part strong-arm security wrangling angry thuggish men.

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

Brilliant

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

OMG I can’t even with how bloody bang-on this is.

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

As I protested yet another bloody inflammatory flare, crippling back ache and complaining ovaries again this month/week, my landlord said to me today, “yes but a stitch in time..what are days now, if ignored will take weeks, months or, years to fix”. So I now sit in the (available) UK sunshine and have begun to track my Vit D levels precisely, via an app. Whilst I dream of the veg patch and summer days spent in it. Tracking vit D whilst daydreaming. Current Astro feels like a fitness assessment prior to a universal call to arms. We need to firstly… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

I know all about Vit D deficiency. Olive skin, sunscreen conscious and living in sunny, sub tropical Qld Yet my body was craving this Vitamin. It took a smart doctor (many years ago)/to find this for me. It’s amazing how a lot of health, both mental and physical, can be caused by a basic lack of nutrition and sunlight. These ailments affect all aspects of life. And I can’t believe how many naturopath’s I’ve seen that totally miss these basic things. I’ve given up on them. A voice in my head was always niggling me to get basic nutrition checked,… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

That’s great! Maybe also, there is room for all of this support, internal and external. Finding others to work with and alongside is really important. Hell I once had a dream I took my own blood, birthed a baby and completed my own stitches. I am an utter control freak even in my subconcious but I recognise now this is all about trust. Insight, empathy, communication and trust. x

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Your dream brought a flash back of the dreams I have been having lately but not recalling on waking up.

Me standing on the sound ground then levitating a few feet and gliding about.
I could do it with my mind by letting go and it was effortless and blissful.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Oh WD. The vital bit of info I stumbled upon the other day is take your VIT D in the morning. I read that if you take it at night it can keep you awake. I was taking it at night for many months and my sleep cycle flipped for many months. Just stopped it yesterday, yes I’m awake now, it takes time to adjust.

I will let you know how I go.

Also as Vit D is fat soluble, it is good to eat some good fat or oil with it. Smashed avocado anyone?

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

And just to add: be careful you don’t overdo the Vit D. Being fat soluble this can be dangerous. Its not like Vit B you do not urinate excess out of body. it gets stored in your fat.

As with any supplement be careful. If you don’t need it it is just causing extra strain on your liver, kidneys and health.
Always check for contraindications with medication
If in doubt ask your doctor.

I don’t know how reliable that phone app is. My doctor suggested blood tests at 3 and 6 month intervals

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

It’s based on a math calculation of timed exposure, cloud, skin type and it is linked to some valid research at a university. As I am (over 80% of people are) highly defficient, I simply do not have the time to spend lazing about catching enough rays but it helps. It seriously helps. The app has a geographical timer too, letting you know burn rates. I find this is vital because frankly I am sick of shitty suncreams puttingmore chemicals into my system so this year I will be using ‘a gentler screen’ with clothing and a hat. See how… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

I think it needs some form of nitric acid or, something generated as a hormone ‘friend/companion’ yes. The best way for vit D absorbtion is through the skin. I believe synthetic versions just dont work in quite the same way. Hence perhaps why your melatonin levels affect sleep and you ave tapped into an oddity of synthetic support? I don’t know but I know it’s all valid as long as we remain aware. Smash that av. DO IT xx

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

When you mentioned synthetic it hit an intuition nerve. Geesh I’ve been consuming this synthetic stuff on and off for many years without even having a follow up blood test. I’m not fond of them. I will get retested and reconsider my approach. A while ago I kept seeing a golden oil clairvoyantly like it was meta from the Gods. Just now realised it is pointing me to cod liver oil. I am a Pisces Rising after all. This oil from my cousins supplies natural vit d amongst other goodies. I’ve spotted a good version with no crap in it.… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

I think it’s ok. We all do our best. i have top ups off the shelf occasionally and i do it with love. Keep up the self care WishuponaStar, it all has a place xx

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

x.

TeardropMM Member
Teardrop

Oh man is this pertinent. All this week my brain has been locked in an epic battle of wills between high-stakes academic deadlines and a verrrry pleasant but unexpected (and inconvenient when it comes to focus) epic crush. I just want to lie around and daydream about this person, but my academia can’t spare the time. Dammmmit.

syrynxMM Member
syrynx

Get better soon Mystic!!
I saw the mention of ferritin in the post and thought oh, here is someone in a similar position to me, unable to absorb sufficient iron and so dependent on supplements.
Wishing you a speedy return to good health.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Talking about cognition: I feel great. Feel like I have found the missing Link

I am Taurus Moon and Pisces Rising and stumbled upon the fact that I am low on Iodine. Added yummy kelp salt to my food and hey presto my throat loves me.

I feel better, think better, not tired, feel strong again and very centred. The throat has a lot to do with intuition. I love the fact that the sea salt and kelp (Pisces medicine) is healing my Taurus Moon.

Sweet Mermaid/Goddess of the Sea! I love you. Thank You !

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pisces are quite susceptible to iodine deficiency.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks Jokerman. x

Jokerman
Jokerman

I left msg for Max but he hasnt got back.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks again Jokerman. Don’t worry too much, I know a few alt therapists I can call for a referral.

dark starMM Member
dark star

sun square backpain….weighing chiros v pts v bodyworkers

skarabMM Member
skarab

osteopath!

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

Chiron/vesta opposite m87.
Saturn suddenly feels like when my dad was carrying me through the water to a sandbar. I had no idea how that worked at three but I’m sure he was not super thrilled to be neck deep with a toddler but it might have been with it to him once I did the squeaking with delight walking on water meters from the shore.

Who knows how I got back.

Maybe I was brave enough to float.

Pi
Pi

being brave enough to float is a good thing, in life and in water 🙂

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

It’s all I can do these days. Like a raft through other people’s trips.

A_J_MM Member
A_J_

The Muggles are in full effect today. 4H/10H

kriblackMM Member
kriblack

Co-worker and I eating marshmallows, sugar rushed, and hysterically giggling over juvenile nonsense while we watch in fascinated horror as the faster we work, the more work comes in.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

actual marshmallows, I love it

Rubeedoo
Rubeedoo

Ha ha ha ha! Marshmallows! My partner/co-worker and I were doing experiments in the kitchen…microwaving marshmallows and stretching them into funny shapes then made ourselves sick tasting them. All for a story that we didn’t end up using…

Jokerman
Jokerman

Venus Conjunct Neptune Vs Sun Square Saturn V cj N : 0.1 (1) S sq Sat : 3.9 (27) Living and dying at 3/4 time (apols to J Buffet) (Itsa a small self-deprecation) I’m also having Chiron squaring my Saturn which has really intensified what is a long long long contact. And with Sun sq Saturn for added gloomnosity. I’ve been coughing my guts up for two weeks. Last Thursday it got serious. Its apparently a major chest infection. Then coughing up blood after a very convulsive coughing session last Thursday. Been coughing it for 12 hours at a time… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

This sounds rough, JM! Lots of people with throath/chest infections lately – Uranus in Taurus coupled with Mars in Gemini? Is your natal Chiron in Aqua?

Jokerman
Jokerman

26°31′ 8H Aqua. Its part of my 4 staggered T Squares focalised by my SD Jup in Scorp and opposed by my Merc cj Uran & Mars cj Pluto. “That’s a heck of a birthmark Hal” (apols to G Larson)

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Bloody hell Jokerman

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Jokerman if you don’t rest now it will just get worse and then you will have even more time off work.

Don’t be a bloody idiot. You can’t work and rest at the same time. Get your priorities right, health is more important than money.

I trust the doctors gave you medication and you are taking it??

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Just for *fun*, NYT today: “Black Hole Image Revealed for First Time Ever- Astronomers at last have captured a picture of the darkest entities in the cosmos. Astronomers announced on Wednesday that at last they had observed the unobservable: a black hole, a cosmic abyss so deep and dense that not even light can escape it. The image, of a lopsided ring of light surrounding a dark circle deep in the heart of the galaxy known as Messier 87, some 55 million light-years away from Earth, resembled the Eye of Sauron, a reminder yet again of the power and malevolence… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

“a reminder yet again of the power and malevolence of nature”

….. malevolence of nature????!!!!!!!!!!!!

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Poor choice of words, right?. He probably wanted to convey the idea of the Universe being inhospitable. Fyi, the author is a Gemini having his Libra Moon squared by the nodes, Saturn and Pluto.

Pi
Pi

I have the same objection Skarab! and ICP! we’re so quick to attribute “intent” to something that just IS, and because it happens to represent a total nothing or unknown, we go all wierd and fatalistic about it.
eyeroll
is this how pluto feels lol

emgMM Member
emg

Yeah awesome, right ? Astro physics sort of bends my brain a bit. But as an eight year old I had a vivid dream I was up in space and got pulled down into a funnel black trap and shot out of a tin can in the gutter same again. After that I stopped eating cheese !

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

Woke up with a bad case of Saturn neck and realized I had a call scheduled with someone re career directions. Feel like I can barely formulate a coherent thought but maybe this is what is needed for me to actually sit down and ask myself questions about what and where I want to be. Venus and Neptune are in my 1st house, while Sun is in the 2nd opposing my natal Mercury.

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

I did take some time to stretch and plan on seeing my chiropractor today. Confident it;ll help.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Sun square Saturn list: check, check, check, and check! I’m having this energy for my Solar Return, with the added *bonus* of having my Lunar Return as well – transiting Moon in Cancer opposite Saturn. I’m slapping people with one hand and offering them cake with the other – fair and balanced, since the empty leg of the t-square is in Libra. I scheduled a private bootcamp at the gym to celebrate my birthday, and then I’ll eat said cake to appease Venus/Neptune square Jupiter on my mutable angles.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

The cake sounds good!! Happy birthday for – tomorrow?

skarabMM Member
skarab

Hahaha! Looks like you’ve got all angles covered!
Happy Solar Return, ICP. xx

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Thank you, my cosmic peeps (autocorrect suggested “perps’ lol)! xx

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ll perpetrate a HB wish too…..hahaha

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

My favorite kind of perp! Ta! xx

emgMM Member
emg

Happy bday and boot camp.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Thanks, emg. xx

dizzarina
dizzarina

Happy birthday!

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Thanks, dizzarina! And to you as well, fellow Ram.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hey hey happy birthday!! <3

Let them eat cake… and then slap them if they move in for seconds uninvited 😉

In other breaking news my Venus-Neptune has resulted in someone reversing into my (parked and unattended) car and banging it up but being an awesome human and leaving details and it's all sorted and getting assessed tomorrow. Saturn Sun square has…
We interrupt this transmission for an important announcement…

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Happy Birthday to you IC Pluto.

Happy Birthdaaay!

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

Help me, I know I have the Astral DNA report but Starhawk’s comment there just rang so true. I’m Sun, Mars, Venus Square Saturn along with a further square/opposition to Chiron. Saturn and the SN are currently tripping this natal configuration into a grand cardinal square – and the Saturn-Pluto conjunction next January will be at the same point. I’m starting to view it as a portal or a key turning in a lock. Feels like there’s a door opening ajar a crack, casting some unearthly light around it. – – Straps in – sets up night vision video recorders… Read more »

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

Just discovered that the Sun in Cap will be conjunct Saturn and Pluto when they meet next January too. Kapow!

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

If it’s of any consolation, you’re not alone. Which houses are involved?

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

Ha! It does help (- sorry!). It’s the 9th and 3rd for the Sun pile-up and Chiron, and 7th for my main dude Saturn. All the SN-PL-Saturn transiting (the empty leg of the T-sq) is in my 1st.

Hello ego death. How many shedding of layers of wonky programming/self-image can there be? Ugh, many.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

‘Crisis and constriction’. The ego is like a mille-feuille, delicious but it crumbles so easily.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

I got crumbs all over my lap.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

It seems the world could go to hell in a hand basket and I couldn’t care less. Venus Conj Neptune meets my natal Venus trine Neptune and says my deep healing is priority. My jaw, neck and shoulders do their unfurling all day under a blanket of sleep. Meanwhile in the background I hear muffled abuse from my neighbor who I clearly see is now losing the plot. Sweet Venus keeps me warm and happy in myself while Neptune heals profoundly. So I maintain my equanimity and realise I have enough rope to hang the narcissistic. Get that voice recording… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

LOVE the pink panther!

Stella PolarisMM Member
Stella Polaris

I’ve also got Venus trine Neptune and Neptune trine Neptune in my chart. Saturn currently trining my natal Mars-Mercury conjunct in my 4th (Sun semi-sextile this pair) so it’s hybrid for me. Interesting vibe…a lot to do, but talking calm, measured approach and working in yoga and sleep.

Rubeedoo
Rubeedoo

Super accurate. Living the surreal hybrid. Major incoming info and decisions to be made about a career-changing project. Left work early to regroup in my star unicorn onesie – a recent gift from my stepchildren!

quintileMM Member
quintile

Yes I left work early but for the sun square saturn – need time to get my life IN ORDER! enjoy your onesie 🙂

Rubeedoo
Rubeedoo

Thanks! I love my unicorn onesie almost as much as my step kids!

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Tax, BAS and why don’t you use your sickies arguments. It’s crackling around here.

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