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April Monthly Horoscopes

Here are the April  Horoscopes!

The first few days of April are energetically an extension of March; the mists of Mercury Retrograde (albeit now only in the shadow-zone) and Uncle Pluto still parked on the South Node.

But from April 5, the atmosphere shifts and off we zoom.

Venus + Mars in Mutable signs makes for zippier relationships and communications. For some zodiac signs, the Full Moon will need to be a masterpiece of finesse and diplomacy. Jupiter in Sagittarius is still everyone’s influential, well-connected and fun new best friend.

But the big-time new player? Saturn on the South Node. Until (ahem) October.

Read your April Horoscope for more and don’t worry; we will unpack the Saturn Syndrome in the Daily Mystic emails + future Horoscopes.

 

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stargazerMM Member
stargazer

Oooohhhhh god nooooo! now Saturn in my relationship sector. I’m already sick of the generally unnoticed unthankful demands of facilitating other people’s lives, crumbling forced family alliances, and now the imminent loss of income. I just want to hide under a rock. Any ray of hope??

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

The image reminds me of that Cormack McCarthy book Blood Meridian or The Evening Redness in the West.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

With the North Node (always) opposite the South Node, external factors (NN opposition) force us to retreat to the South Node to test our mastery in the matters of the house where the conjunction is happening. South Node works like a repeat test, and crossing over a planet asks us to integrate this lesson in order to achieve the ultimate release (SN). South Node crossing over Pluto is alchemical – even if we’re breathing the deadly toxic psychic fumes. Also, in Vedic astrology, South Node -Saturn deals with unresolved relationships with the past, our multigenerational karma. A reconciliation with what/who… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Sitting on hold to a Telco mindlessly staring at the screen and this lil pearl of wisdom dropped in. Nothing gloomy at all from my 8th (also impacted) perspective. In fact it’s a rather upbeat and optimistic read and my soul just did a little happy dance and high 5’d the universe – yep, reckon you nailed it!

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

This 8H business is so important if we want to get to the *highs* of our 9H, right? Whilst in the 8H, we must not only bury but also properly mourn what/who is dead even if they’re still alive. One of the yogas that SN-Saturn brings is the “hungry ghost”, no surprise there. May we all be master psychopomps!

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

The hungry ghosts are in the house and the psychopomp theme has been huge for me this last year or so… either that or I feel like a bit of a death doula! May well all reach the high vistas and open plains of the 9th after the darkened rooms and dank dimly lit corridors of the 8th! Still – if I sound ungrateful or bleak there I’m not. I know the order of things and this must come before that so I’m doing this as well as I can. Still, one can’t help but hope that the calculations are… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

And yet the lunar nodal axis transits in retrogradation. It’s like we’ve come from a future to which we’re still aiming to go. Dimensions, timelines, consciousnesses – we’re connecting the cosmic dots.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yes – the no time and space continuum. We spiral, if we move at all hehehe… because y’know, maybe we don’t really move and everything just appears to move. The great mystery <3

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Centaurus, only now I read the picture caption ‘continuum’. Haha My Aries/Gemini impatience does me no favors!!!

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hahaha!! I only read it after reading your comment. I kind of glossed over the image this time. Too funny 😀

Jokerman
Jokerman

I am in AWE of you ICPluto. You have given me much to think about. SN, Saturn and Pluto in my 7th applying my Sun. The only thing that puzzles me is what do I gotta do next. Past relationships are well and truly fucked, gonski, nada and kaput. Not that anything really got past the stillborn stage since my divorce. When it comes to George Clooney, I’m no Brad Pitt. In looks or money, in fact, equally bereft in the extreme. “When you got nothing, you got nothing to Lose”. (a Hibbing Vagabond said that) I burnt a so-called… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Oh Jokerman, you have the ricochet transit. The 7H projecting onto the NN conjunct your Sun, I have no doubts people are seeing their own shadows through you, hence the still-born relationships, and the friends who should know better. “Dead leaves picked up by the shovelful”.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Usual, amalgam, respone is, “you’re a nice bloke but…..” followed by some nebulosity which then brings on gut wrenching rejection. The silence is I don’t have money or assets. Yet the hypocrisy is they all cleaned up in their divorces. This they volunteered themselves. Having a 2H Natal Mars cj Pluto, in their opposite house, means possessions are a fucked concept anyway. Anyway, in 2028, Pluto will perform the last rites over my Moon. It’s the year I die. “I’m sick and tired of hearing things from Uptight short sided narrow minded hypocritics All I want is the truth, just… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Fear of merging finances, taking care of aging (potential) partner, all very Saturn – Pluto energy in your 7H. Question is, if you had money and assets would you still be fishing in this pond? “And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yes I would fish in same pond: no heartbeat involved in that response.

Sometime ago Mystic said I should make sure of my material standing, ir some such ilk, and I didn’t understand at the time.

I am led by my heart. I know I’ve got an intellect. But, you know, a very heavily aspected Moon in the 7th. I dunno much about else.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

JM, if I remember correctly, in your natal chart Saturn is your ‘skipped step’ since you have the nodal axis square. Not sure if you’ve gone through your second Saturn yet. But, I’d say that all these bits and pieces have to be taken into consideration now, when the transiting nodal axis is activating your chart. Also, the way I read charts these days, I’d put your natal Moon in the 8H (sorry, it seems I’m obsessed – pun intended), which would naturally be a Moon that needs symbiosis. The potential partners you’ve been attracting are reflecting ALL of this,… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

So I’ve gone down the warren of the Moon in the 8th. I know some people are talking about Whole Houses and how they are a good starting point for chart reading. Moon in the 8th definitely resonates esp as l feel so obsessive and intense about my Moon’s expression. It has been with me since I was 6yrs old. (I seriously thought I was going to marry Sally Field). It has never relented, never abated. I live this intensity everyday. I have a lot of houses changing late in signs esp an aneretic IC / MC. It appears as… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Also Moon and Venus have been opp my Virgo Cluster so a real dk Moon downer.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Hey JM – just a thought – maybe you’re already doing it? Travelling, doing your own thing? In my experience Pluto sometimes works via the side door. (Clumsy metaphor but hopefully it makes sense). IE When Pluto went through my 4th my husband lost his job and I got really sick. In desperation I went to the free counsellor offered by my workplace and unexpectedly began my healing of my 4th house fam of origin issues.
Also in the words of Clint Eastwood in Cool Hand Luke, “sometimes nothing is a might fine hand to have.” xx

Jokerman
Jokerman

You quoting the ‘Dylan of films’ will get you brownie points. I vill think on theze things.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Love this Chrysalis, i really do – BUT – as a shameless film nerd i just can’t let this slide: it was (the gorgeous) Paul Newman as Cool Hand Luke that uttered those words: “sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.”…. hence his name.

Jokerman
Jokerman

It sounded good. Let’s pretend Clint did it.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Can’t.
(I have 5 planets in Virgo in my Progressed chart.)

Jokerman
Jokerman

So have I and my natal 4 (inc Vesta)

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

AH yes I have to confess I saw it decades ago and misremembered! Thanks for reminding – and yes Paul N certainly was easy on the eye back in the day! xx

skarabMM Member
skarab

Completely understand the mix up – that era was full of the cool dude movies. I only remember coz i loved Paul and this movie really affected me. Especially that quote which is similar in vein to the quote from my favourite song of that era “Me & Bobby Mcgee”: “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose”
……. Woops, looks like the Sun conjunct my SN-Gary is bringing back them good ol days. :-). xx

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

SN-Gary conjunction!! Do we call that the double-denim aspect?? Transiting Gary is in Pisces – *flicks hair* – and on my 8th house Psyche right now… no wonder I’ve been dreaming of Bread album covers xx

skarabMM Member
skarab

On your Psyche! N-i-i-i-c-e !! OMG, yes Bread, lol! (I’ve even been playing the Chisel for the first time since the 70s.) Double-denim aspect is spot on. Btw, did you know that the Canadian tux was originally made for Bing Crosby of all people? The Gary force was strong within him as you’ll see. Story goes that back in the 50s, he was almost barred from entering a posh Vancouver hotel because he was dressed from head to toe in denim (this is what alerted my Gary radar), so Levi Strauss got wind of this and made him a denim… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Oh wow that is the coolest thing I have heard in a LONG time. xxx

emgMM Member
emg

It’s not at all gloomy but I’m trying to consider it in the 11th 5th axis ? So pluto Saturn SN are in my 11th ? Trying to gain the best future, the best integration into a new environment, new community?

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Emg, I’d say this configuration in your 11H is pushing you to get rid of previous plans for the future, and in Capricorn, you probably feel like they are/were set in stone. Perhaps, you were thinking of taking X road, with X people, to get X in return (the 11H is what you get back from your tribe). You have been investing for a while in it, and now you don’t see anything or anyone supporting this structure? Opposing this, you have the NN in your 5H, a new way to express yourself, taking a gamble on nurturing (Cancer) your… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

Wow thanks. I’ve just given up self employment and practice of 31 years and am heading out into the wild blue to be authentic at last. Amazing. And yes no idea how this will pan out but i love the youth I now work with. It’s a very very young industry so I’m really the grandma of the bunch. We shall see

emgMM Member
emg

Oh and NN directly conj my sun right now. Time to shine

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

A 5H Sun!! How can you NOT shine?!? Pay attention to the Lunar Eclipse in July. The future has your name on it! 🙂

emgMM Member
emg

Yeah and it sits with jupiter ! I’m shy and retiring, what can I say !

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Shine on you crazy beautiful diamond

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

So good to “see you” again Emg!

emgMM Member
emg

And you. You’ve been gone too long. Nice to read your voice again.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Emg I have the same 11th and 5th house happening. I am feeling the 5th house and Cancer thing. Children are symbolic in my psyche. A happy little fella gave me the happiest greeting and connection yesterday.

They are llke a green light to my future.

And the warm fire of Leo house gives me a healthy perspective of tackling challenges.

Thanks for the interpretation IC Pluto

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

The Sun in this house has accidental dignity no matter what sign it’s in, so if one abandons the idea that a Sun in the 5H has to behave like a Leo, one may liberate oneself to express their uniqueness. Imo, a Cancer 5H Sun should always take a cue from their Moon placement, because if the Moon is being fulfilled, Cancerians tap easily into that emotional fierceness that transforms them into powerhouses.

emgMM Member
emg

Thank you thank you. Quite a fabulous insight.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Holy cow that comment gave me chills. I’m experiencing some interesting issues and Pluto recently entered my 2nd house and began grinding over my NN 22”Capricorn. My SN is all murky 8th house stuff so my being quite literally homeless and eating breakfast at the soup kitchen for a month and trying so far unsuccessfully to get a bed in a woman’s shelter feels extremely on karmic point. I’m recreating my childhood circumstances and each time it’s increm less awful because I have more awareness and better friends and more ability to listen to my instincts instead of denying my… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Invicta, imo, this is such an important evolutionary moment for you. You’re about to have a reverse nodal return, which means there’s a course adjustment that needs to be made. The railroad tracks are changing; actually, YOU are building the track structure now – you are railroad worker and train conductor! Regarding your Cancer SN 8H and your realizations about your mom; I want to let you know that another ‘yoga’ the SN-Saturn conjunction deals with is the ‘sincere act performed in a funeral’, which Vedic explains as the burden one carries as the result of not properly having mourned… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

OH. My. God.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

It’s so true what you’re saying IC Pluto and the amount of sense it makes is truly astonishing. I’m here entirely by choice. I could easily have stayed in a very comfortable cohabitation arrangement with my ex. I feel like the point of power being in the present moment has never felt more true. Obviously my reasons for leaving the relationship were valid on point (standards please) but it’s not that I was not loved or happy with him. It was almost a technical detail that pointed my way out in no uncertain terms. I’d have missed a huge opportunity… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hey Invicta – you are sounding clear and strong and like you’re really working some of this stuff and it’s feeding your strength and soul and that is actually good 8th house work and SN. It’s good to read you, I have been intermittent around here myself but I don’t think you’ve been around much and if you do change your name I’ll know who to watch out for! xx

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Thanks Centaurus. I’m feeling strong. I may be the only person lying on my yoga mat in my sleeping bag on this particular church hall floor reading an astrology blog and doing Jessica Snow’s Capricorn meditation on repeat but it’s feeling like the right thing to do for me right now. I’m not going to change my name on the site don’t worry. Only did it IRL but more than a few of the people who share this hall tonight live between the worlds and share the Mercury- Neptune conjunction with Neil Gaiman and this phase of the Astro Turf.… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

I’m definitely learning what value means to me and I had always associated my NN with money and straight up wealth but since the start of this Pluto transit I have begun to value people and relationships or to realise how much value they can hold for me. Obviously there’s a lot of work to do here still. The transit is quite new still but shifts are occurring and I am excited by the possibilities and the opportunities for change and expansion of my concepts and ideas about what I can have and what I can give the world in… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I just hear a crystal clear voice coming through when I read you and there’s no victim just loads of empowerment, generosity, self respect and wisdom. You are in a really powerful personal portal I reckon. The reasons we get brought to places are rarely clear in the beginning and that’s where we need to be able to trust our intuition and it sounds like you are doing exactly that! But, I still have to say be safe and look out for yourself. I’m sure you are and I mean no inference to the space or others but take care… Read more »

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

I love this take IC! Had not idea of this interpretation. It’s playing in my 5th, trine my Natal Moon and with the NN heading to be conjunct to my Natal Mars in 11th. It’s the exact reverse of my Natal Nodes. I’ve already come to terms with the fact that I am never having my natural kids and I am considering becoming a foster parent. My hope regarding NN heading to be conjunct my natal Mars in Kataka was love/romantically oriented. Like a fate played meeting or something. But Saturn / SN conjunct could be the “make the plan… Read more »

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

MissDee, you peeps with reverse nodal return coming up in Cancer-Capricorn need to apply a lot of elbow grease to make things happen! The image I have of NN in Cap is of people building cathedrals. SN-Saturn by transit on the NN will make you get rid of outdated techniques and tools of the trade. NN Mars will reignite this martian energy, being the hungry head of the dragon, you develop an appetite for it. Suddenly, you may find yourself less fearful and more assertive, less tolerant of nay-sayers who put a wet blanket on your dreams. A foster experience… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

This is exactly what my experience of this moment feels like. Wow. Exactly this!

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Reverse Nodal Return. Wow. Hadn’t a clue it was even a thing but it most definitely is. So my Hanna Gadsby meets Tony Robins nascent persona is not merely a fantasy projection or a delusion that I’m using to keep going. She is real. Since changing my name the clarity of my inner goddess or my trauma triggered parts has never felt more clear and the awareness that comes from not being constantly triggered by your own name is phenomenal

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Nothing to add re this very erudite discussion of the nodes, but just wanted to say how happy I am to see you back here Invicta xxx

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks IC Pluto. This makes sense and makes me happy as it confirms the conflict in my mind and steerse in the right direction. I can work this out intuitive ly and hear it goes. My south node(Scorpio) is currently transisting Capricorn in the 10th house and I am currently battling with verbally abusive neighbors( how dear they slander my status) Very Capricorn indeed. When I know deep down they can’t take anything from me. Staying here is a downward spiral. I glow and feel warm and lovely in my North Node Taurus in Luscious Cancer in my Joyous 5th… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

I mean South Node in Scorpio in the 11th house in Capricorn which explains the I don’t give a fuck what you say because I am individuated from planet Uranus.

But you are right about Saturn and the past
This abuse is about the bullying and abuse I got from my brother , it hasn’t been resolved so it keeps coming up.
I have to work on this. I have to make peace with these emotions.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Wish, a NN in the 4H always feels extra strong to a Cancerian. With the transiting SN conjunct your natal SN ruler, and applying a conjunction to the natural planetary ruler (Saturn) of the 10H, the power struggle IS real. The experience here, whilst you’re going through this ordeal mimicking conditions from your past, is to help you solidify your awareness/understanding of your self-reliance, and ability to build your own shelter. Just don’t forget self-care, and self-soothing. As an aside, wanted to add that a Chiron transit through a 3H may also be an opportunity to heal the wound that… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

IC Pluto: perfect timing for me to read this. I have closed the blinds and doors and on the air con. I just did the Pluto meditation. My energy is low today. Self soothe and self care yes. Housework has to wait. The power struggle is real. I am not a Cancer but have Merc and Venus there. Gem sun, Taurus moon, Pisces Rising. My natal Taurus NN is transiting 5th house In cancer not the 4 the house as you stated. But what you said still rings true. Yes I have self reliance and in the process of staking… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

My first house has Merc, Venus and Neptune transiting it. I’m a Pisces rising with Merc n Venus in Cancer, Neptune in Scorpio. .

I think there is a lot going on. What are your thoughts IC Pluto or anyone else,,?

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

I’m better now. I happened upon bindural bests for clearing my aura.

It was phenomenonal. Being a Pisces Rising this is essential for self care.
Simplicity and just using my intuition is best for me. Learning about astrology comes when I’m relaxed and its like aha.

But thanks IC Pluto you were right about the self care.

Have a great note everyone. I feel nurtured in this environment.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Wish, imo the best course of action is always the one that brings you back home to yourself. It’s not a route of denial and avoidance, and neither one of resistance to the outside pressure, but guiding yourself back to your core, your values, and fortifying them will make you stable. You’ll move, physically and emotionally, when YOU decide to – feel what you’ve got to feel, purge what you’ve got to purge. In astro, I noticed that folks with the majority of natal personal planets/luminaries/points in their ‘personal houses’ (1 – 6) have a tough time when confronted with… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

True. I’ve got Pluto applying opp 1st Sun where my Uran lives, Nep now separating out of opp my 2H Virgo Stellium (inc Pluto) and Uran applying opposition to my 4H Nep after it had done the shit to my IC/MC. (IC is cj Nep.)

Seriously, using oxygen IS A VICTORY when you have all Outers opp another Outer.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

JM, you have anaretic airy IC/fiery MC, correct? It seems like you can taste water and touch earth from not very far. Outer transits bring all these different gasses, different pressure, different temperature. One feels like an amphibian on the brink of an evolutionary shift.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks IC Pluto. I am getting body work at the moment and my jaw is releasing a lot and my neck getting longer. Purging. This requires a lot of sleep. Just woke from 17 hours of it. Oh yeah. I do have a favourable Pluto trine Saturn personal transit going on . Past memories floating past as the bones and muscles release the tension. Bye bye toxic armouring. But unfortunately before the release comes the despair and confusion. Grasping at straws before sweet surrender. On top of this I do agree what you say about the personal houses. Among the… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

I wonder if there is a connection between this dark moon in Pisces and abandoned dogs. I couldn’t sleep so I got up and opened the doors and did the dishes. I was thinking that I would like to offer to walk 2 gorgeous dogs for 2 elderly neighbors. I had Big love happening for canines, Venus in Cancer, Pisces Rising, Taurus Moon. Then I heard a simpering outside my door. Alas 2 abandoned dogs. One very arthritic poodle, very smelly and another dog of some fine breed. So I gave the milk and water and one a lot of… Read more »

SalaciousSaggMM Member
SalaciousSagg

Where are you Wish Upon a Star. Any good rescues that would take on these poor souls? The Pounds here in Sydney are full at present and many are fostering until they find homes. As you say though….it is crazy how many lost/abandoned dogs there are. Cats too and even a few goats!!

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Its a small town with a lot of bush so they hide and come out in the dead of nite. Surprising ly well fed, they hunt and survive I suppose.

I will speak to the vet. Eating the wildlife isn’t good.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

The Scorpio side of me knows I can’t report them. I know that black dog would be put down as she is in bad shape. I thought that she should be put down when I saw her but then I saw her sitting, smelling the air, looking peaceful as she watched the twinkling moonlight water. No I want her to have her dignity and freedom.

Sorry. I know the other dog looks after her.

Cardinal QweenMM Member
Cardinal Qween

So Pluto and Saturn are sandwiching my Cappy natal n.node placed in the 1st. (So at the mo the n.node is conjunct my natal south node in 7th.) Was hoping that perhaps I’d manifest something in my romantic life. All that keeps happening is I get into strange and qi-draining attraction scenarios with married/about to be married people that are all about mentally bonking each other (natal mars in Gemini, cough) but ultimately never lead anywhere. (Not that I’d want that for myself, I’m nobody’s side chick thank you.) my heart hurts, but taking sensible and chic steps to detach… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Nothing about what you’ve written reads like complacency, to me at least. Or a whinge. But to a cardinal it might be feeling out of your control which may be frustrating and maybe more so when you’ve got the your feeling self opposed your outward expression that doesn’t want to sit around waiting once mind is made up. Seeking out unavailable people could be a way of avoiding a relationship yes but it could also be a way for you to remain free of one if it’s not actually what you want deep down but you think you want it… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

But what if unavailable are the only ones available?

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Spin it around and take a good look…
The unavailable are available.
Why?

What’s the message in that?
Since you asked… I don’t think the answer is it’s “I can’t have what I want”

Jokerman
Jokerman

Maybe I’m stupid. I only go on what people say. Other than that I am clueless. And l don’t have a clue as to how to apply what you’ve said. That’s not a disrespect to you, more a reflection on my wonderful ability to be all at sea on the issue that is the most important to me.

“To be a rock and not to roll” (L Zep)

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Mate – you are not stupid but may I suggest when we tunnel vision on something the gain we can get from laser like focus is traded for the bigger picture and we can be at risk of missing out on other insights and approaches… I’ve been there and like some folk I can get real stubborn and fixed in my Toro rising when that happens, at times to my detriment. So the unavailable are available…. because… (am gonna just free flow this and assume unavailable means with someone else here) – They’re not happy with what they’ve got They’re… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks, thats thought provoking.
As I’ve said elsewhere it’s been a lifelong affliction. I recognized a lot of stuff.

When l got my divorce, I thought I was a chance at getting a partner. But the past 6 years have rolled quickly and the odds have gone up exponentially. Also getting a false accusation of student bashing hurt immensely.

So you can see I’m pretty well fucked up. Income is sporadic, I’m depressed, no chance of a partner. I can’t even grow silverbeet, Lake Eyre and all.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I probably have just as many thoughts in how to reply as you have obsessions JM. Too many and no streaming (think this could be a lunar portal thing). Uh- Oh: another long post warning! And typed on a phone. You better read it – this was hard work 😉 Why aren’t you still a chance for a relationship? Of course you are. Are you a cert for it and can it continuing blissfully be locked in? Probably not. Are you being fixed in the what, where, how, who, when and such? Or on type? If you’re getting the false… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I just lost a 25 minute reply. I will write soon. Give me an hour.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Take your time I’m out for a bit but thanks for the return receipt! Know I’m not comparing apples and oranges – just expressing a similar theme is all.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks for replying. I value communications on here. I got a long reply done and lost it. Anyways gist of it is this. Uranus did some psychotic Irish dance on my MC in 2017/18. False accusation l lose my career over some arsehole kid, parented by arseholes, and sacked by a useless Principal who didn’t like the cache I had with the kids. Fuck, I was a good teacher. Kids learnt stuff in my class without knowing they learnt it. It Grand Crossed my Natal T Square and Is still Grand Trining my Virgoan Mars, Pluto, Vesta and Venus which,… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

My day went off on a different trajectory but I’m now wondering what triggered that memory as I really haven’t given it a thought for a decade and more. Maybe it’s just Pluto’s catacombs for extended periods of time leading me to a dusty old chamber filled with broken relics and books with pages missing. It was a bizarre turn of events. Exonerated but still left to process feelings of injustice and patch up my own sense of self. I guess the biggest reason (aside from me occasionally 😉 telling a good tale) is that it was a left of… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Power Purging is what l gotta do. (I’m having racking cough and sinus2the Max atm) I’m not sure how to counter such an intricate matrix that is my obsession so matted in my make-up. I’m def an amalgam of Moon in 7th & 8th. Esp as my Psyche is conjunct my Moon and Chiron lives later in Aqua. Also my Moon opposes both my Sun and Uranus. And that Chiron opposes my Merc cj Uran AND my Mars cj Pluto. So a lot of 8th energy. “Now, where did I put the last thing that was taken away from me?”… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I’m getting a bit of humour in there… wry but present eh? Don’t counter it – it’s often said that our wound is our medicine with Chiron stuff and maybe generally speaking but that’s not a clear instruction is it. Scratching head, furrowed brow, body tense with resistance, eyes scanning for distractions, selective hearing program boots into life etc.. um ok, what was that you said… just so I’m clear… that thing I keep avoiding is going to be good for me… yerright, do you have any data to prove that? Um – well yes, totally due to my frequent… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

You know how they say Cancer’s are moody changing every day or coupla days, highs n lows. Well mine tend to come on a monthly basis or thereabouts. As you can tell I’ve been thru a real downer. A racking cough and super-compressive sinus issue, brought on by major major dental work, has compounded my outlook. Thanks Capricorn (how a sign can produce Susanna Hoffs, on one hand, and dental issues other, beats me). I just read a fluff piece on signs and how they devote themselves. I’m a ‘bear with a sore head’ without a partner. Now the NM… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

If it’s monthly then it’s likely a particular lunar aspect for you – I imagine you’re already across this.

And I can relate with some old bone injuries really burred up this last week or so.. but have been niggling me more than usual for a little too long thank you Pluto.

Sounds like you’re being encouraged to rest.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I sus the 7th / 8th transit.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

What do you think it’s pinging off eg squaring, opposing or conjunct? Well… maybe that’s not even important as I always know the moon has hit my 4th or 12th and the rules (shared dominion) are empty.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well as it goes thru the 7th and 8th it crosses my Dsc, Moon cj Psyche and, later, my Chiron and opposes my Asc, Sun, Uran, Merc, Mars, Pluto, Vesta and Venus – a 5 day span. It’s only just dawned on me. As it such a strong player there is a big impact.

Now the Moon has gone New l do feel better, still really crook, but not so weighed down. It sure was the darkest for a while though. All the Malefic action a bit past my Dsc. Great.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

There you go. For sure it’s going to be felt with all that action. Worth being prepared for I reckon and then you’ll find ways to work it differently.

Jokerman
Jokerman

So it really is a florid turbulent energy the Moon going over my 1, 2, 4, 7 & 8 houses. Activating those, there are 5, T Squares. Those houses do represent the issues I deal with.

Thank you so much Centaurus. That was my heaviest Dk Moon I’ve felt for a long time.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

You’re gong to benefit heaps from watching luna I reckon and because you’ve got an active and quick mind her pace might be a good match for your data gathering style.

I’m glad this dark moon wasn’t one of those for me. They can be tough alright but the new moon energy is always palpable – like a release valve switch is flicked!

And… totally happy to be of service JM 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ta. So l gotta get a Moon Diary. I saw on the other week. And I’ll be in that town tomorrow.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yeah good move – and don’t just use it for appointments lol. Use it for moods and weird and wonderful things that happen. Active dream runs, appetite up or down, insomnia, fatigue etc. Whatever is going to help you draw your own map but I’m high-fiving the screen because I think you’ve just given yourself an amazing gift!

Jokerman
Jokerman

You’ve given me something too. My heart gotta little smile in appreciation at your help.
I got some Chinese herbs for my throat which has been amazing. Still shitty but getting better.

I’ve been on here for just over 5 years and it’s amazing to still find new references to your life. I really am a Moon / Outre 3 critter.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Hey Jm, couldn’t help butting in here after reading about your ailments. As you know, there’s only 2 weeks between our birthdays – so our outer planets are almost going through the same aspects/transits. I too have just had major shitty dental surgery (last Monday) & only just got over a flu & sinus infection from hell and lower back pain. OK – so firstly – not only do we have Pluto-Saturn opposing our Sun which is no light frolic. This would induce deep psychical & physical restructuring (hence deep angsts floating up & bones & teeth issues) – BUT… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well your words were floating in my head. You were prob thinking, “my crazy brother”.
You’ve ruined my imaginary picture of you.
I’ve pictured you as some real-life “Brave” type of warrior.

Chiron square Saturn, goody, I’ve always wanted to go to that picnic. Sounds like Python’s “Anyone for Tennis?” skit.

I’ve been thru quite an emotional seppuku. NM has been a much-needed circuit breaker.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Funny you mention Python coz I’ve been identifying with their Black Knight.

Jokerman
Jokerman

One of my faves from that film. Which I saw 4 times in the first week and another 4 times in the following 3 weeks. “King Arthur: How do you do, good lady? I am Arthur, king of the Britons. Whose castle is that? Peasant Woman: King of the who? King Arthur: The Britons. Peasant Woman: Who’re the “Britons”? King Arthur: Well, we all are. We’re all Britons, and I am your king. Peasant Woman: Didn’t know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. Dennis: You’re fooling yourself. We’re living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy,… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

And I hope it passes quickly for you skarab!

skarabMM Member
skarab

Thank you! And loving your advice. X

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

🙂 thank you xo

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yeah I clocked that smile and sent one back.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Wounds being our Super Powers: Well said Centaurus.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

True story right – once we know how to work ’em.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Work em work em work em!

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

while there’s life, there’s hope.
lol… I’m 54 and have been single for the past 15 years but will never give up. hang in there JM

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks, l’m in shitsville.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I think so much depends on the stories we tell ourselves doesn’t it. A friend of mine in her 70s just met the love of her life and is also having the best bedwork of her life, lol. Society adds so much pressure. Plus I think we are the first generation of larger numbers of singles at this age so perhaps we have to invent it. I wonder if Uranus in Taurus will lead people to reject what seems to be the trash-bin model of online dating and lead us to something more stable and grounded? (I know plenty of… Read more »

Cardinal QweenMM Member
Cardinal Qween

Yes to this!!! Sure Uranus in Aries gave us the immediate gratification of likes/swipes/matches and a seemingly endless sea of options, but what’s left once the little dopamine hits wear off? If I go on dating apps for even a short while I feel like I’ve consumed too much sugar. Actually awoke at 1am from v spooky mugwort dream…I wrote a letter to the local paper to my “future phone” a person who id met before at a pottery class. then she replied as my “future girlfriend” saying she wanted to meet me. In order to craft my response, I… Read more »

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

lol… let’s bring back ‘courting’… taking it slow and chastely for a few months before even making it to the bedroom

Jokerman
Jokerman

I agree. I think people can be in a rush and, well, …… fuck it up.

“Try n tell the kids of today and they won’t believe you” (Michael Palin)

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Yes.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

We might have to invent it.. yes, we just might and perhaps it’s already begun but with Uranus in Taurus we’ll see it manifest more tangibly?

Jokerman
Jokerman

I knew my story before I could think it.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks for that goodwill GY.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Oh Jokerman so that is it. I have been wondering what has been holding you back. Thoughts about people come into my head for a reason. Like a puzzle I need to solve. Now I know and I can relate. Being accused of bashing a student has got to hurt especially if you are conscientious and sensitive. That stuff will do your head in. Getting g over that takes as long as it takes. I won’t go into it but I have suffered trauma and great loss in my life. It felt like I was being stripped bare. And you… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yes, patience is a hurtue.
I don’t believe in patience because the person at the other end of the line is incompetent! (Ha ha ha).

Irl, two ppl that’ve helped are both Gems.

I think Pluto, first into Cap, and then into my 7th (Dsc 8°53′), for ages, has been about the loss of good people (my former wife) and shitheads doing shithead things to me in a shithead way. But I’m learning how to do teflon.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

All things pass Jokerman and nature abhors a vacuum. I hope you learn a thing or two from those shit heads. Once you get through and over the loss I hope your rivers fill with gold.

Just make sure the river is fresh and flowing, not filled with bitterness and regret.

BTW what does IRL mean?

Jokerman
Jokerman

In real life.

I don’t hold grudges, they’re bad for your health. My Uranity rules there.

The travelling around and working, here n there, doesn’t sit well with my Cancer Sun and Asc. I know some wouldn’t understand but the travelling thing is not really me.

Just keeping an eye out for what is happening as the NM was my 10th. So something may appear.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve only played this song 12 times today “Talk to Me” (Stevie Nicks) (aren’t Geminis wonderful?) “I can see we’re thinkin’ ’bout the same things Yes, I see your expression when the phone rings We both know there’s something happenin’ here There’s no sense in dancing ’round the subject A wound gets worse when it’s treated with neglect Well don’t turn now, there’s nothing here to fear You can talk to me Talk to me You can talk to me You can set your secrets free, baby Dusty words lying under carpets Seldom heard, well, must you keep your secrets… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yes Gems are great and so is Stevie. Did you play it through once for each sign? Ooh.. now there’s a thought.. might have to give that a whirl sometime.

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Ha. NN Capricorn as well, but in my 9th/10th H. Saturn and Pluto hanging in my 9th which is Saggi. Tinder sucks. I’ve given up on online dating, over 40 it’s pretty toxic. As you’re 30ish you will have to meet lots of jerks and apply stern protcols on potentials. Write a list of deal breakers. Don’t think you can ‘help’ or ‘change’ anyone. Trust your gut instincts. Congratulate yourself on being happy on your own. (there are lots of advantages, I know). I’m 54 and single and its taken me a looooonnnnggg time to be happy being single, I… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Just yes to this Gemyogi!

Cardinal QweenMM Member
Cardinal Qween

Thank you so so much guys for listening to my inside thoughts and giving such sage advice, I really appreciate it. 🙂 <3 Be the rock and the metal, heh. Love it!

Think everything said above is correct, particularly what you said Centaurus about not being able to control all of this. For the past few new/full moon tarot pulls I've been getting the hanged man. As much as I want to control and speed up the self dev process maybe I need to just sit with it all for a while…

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Always glad to know Mercury hasn’t blurred the essence of the message too much! I was just musing over control and how it would look for each modality….with cardinal it would be about the outcome of the vision or plan initiated and the milestones needing to be checked odd in order like the project manager. Fixed has a mission to keep things as they are. Don’t fix what aint broke style or don’t be aiming to move me out of this space with your ideas of fresh and new and different and mutable….well I was struggling for a second and… Read more »

prowlncrabMM Member
prowlncrab

If April is remotely like March then that’s it … I’m checking out permanently. March was the WORST month of my entire life and I’ve had some pretty shitty eras, but that seriously won the gold star of shitful times. Mum had a heart attack and basically died and somehow got resurrected. Well she is a Leo. I was there on the day of the heart attack which normally I would not have been, otherwise she’d be dead. The day of the heart attack I had the best job interview of my life ever! Which of course I had to… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Oh goodness that’s awful. No trite homilies from me – kudos to you for retaining your sanity during such high stress. I hope you’re able to navigate the family situ and keep your mum safe xx

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

I’m so sorry to hear this, ProwlnCrab. All love and strength to you xx

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

You should not need to repeat that–ever. Your words sound strong and warrior-y. I hope that energy finds you and feeds during such a trying time.

prowlncrabMM Member
prowlncrab

Thanks guys … there were many days were I just hid under the doona, resorted to way too much gin fizz, screamed at the wrong people, basically coped in every maladjusted way I could muster. Somewhere in there I got turned into a coldly clinical, list making Vulcan. The Evil Aunt received an explosion of a tongue lashing that I think orbiting satellites and Google Earth may have picked up.

Despite the situation still being in the air and tenuous I feel determined, strong and I even washed my hair and shit. 😉

emgMM Member
emg

You can do anything with clean bouncy locks. Well done.

PiMM Member
Pi

Prowln, I love you

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Soldier on, GF. Respect.
p.s. there’s never ‘too much gin fizz’ 😛

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

That sounds like a total hell ride for you! Hoping for a speedy recovery for your mum and some peace and a hefty dose of Jupitarian luck for you PC xx

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Saturn on the SN, sheesh. I wonder when this last happened? I would be interested to do the forensics. This is all piling up on my Eros-Juno conjunction. Pluto on that point just lately brought the swamp monster from 10,000 fathoms, so Saturn has a hard act to follow. I haven’t had a clear-eyed look at swamp monster’s chart, I was too shocked to look closely when he first contacted me but here goes. I guess there is little wonder we ‘clicked’, if you ignore for a moment the fact that I was 15 when we met. He is a… Read more »

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

Why is Saturn on the SN supposedly a bad news?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I don’t think it will necessarily be bad news – maybe just news of some kind. Or more likely, just a consequence of some action (good or bad). This Pluto encounter wasn’t ‘bad’ as such, just a massive shock.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

It sounds like you’ve got your boundaries good and clear. Maybe Saturn following up Pluto’s act can help provide the structure to that so you don’t have to stand there emotionally holding up your boundaries all the time? A new fortress, within which you can relax and recover?

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

“A new fortress within which you can relax” is my current therapy goal.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I love this analogy, thank you so much. As you would imagine from the astro connections I find it difficult to resist him, even after so many years. But the door is well and truly bolted shut.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

I say shungite, black tourmaline and energy recalling mantras all the way. The dark moon is the ideal time for setting this intention in place anyway, so you got this

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

If he gained the name of swamp monster he cannot be any good. As Mystic once said: no matter the amount of conjunction we have with a person and the powerful synastry: some people must be avoided at all cost.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

So true. I really thought about going to see him, to get some closure on what happened. It was pretty murky – I was under age and thought I was “in love” – he was a predator who ended up doing jail time for offences against other girls. My relationship with him continued into my 20s. I didn’t know about the other girls until I found out he went to jail long after we had parted. So many layers of fuqued up. I expect I was hoping for some kind of admission from him but given the tone of his… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Could it also look like the credits rolling on a movie that you’ve been immersed in but are glad to see the finish of as you’re bones ache from sitting through it (you thought it’d be shorter) so you stretch, satisfied that you saw what you needed to see and the protagonist wasn’t the main actor after all despite the trailer indicating to the contrary and…there’s you, free from a past and moving out of the dim lighting into bright sunshine? I mean Saturn is also reward for work and effort too yeah. And I don’t know why I framed… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Lovely metaphor for this Leo rising! xx I’m in the middle of a difficult ‘stay or go’ situ in my current relationship and all this is happening as a backdrop. I’m really coming to understand how I have accepted so little from people in all my relationships, not just love. How I continually persevere with situs that are fundamentally not right, pushing myself to ‘work on it’. At my post-Chiron return life stage I’m really beginning to wonder if I’m just done with love. I remember reading somewhere that where you have Saturn is where you end up spending a… Read more »

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Done with inadequate, fucked up love, Chrys. We all should be done with *that*. xx

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Don’t go for second best, you’re better baby on your own
Express yourself… respect yourself (hey hey)
(Maddy)

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Glad it resonated Chrys! xx I’ve wondered similar things and I’m really not that driven by it any more, actually not at all at the moment but as I can’t see around corners I’ll leave some ideas loosely floating in space. I also see Saturn in the 7th as longevity in a relationship and a deep commitment where someone is prepared to work on the relationship or dedicated to it. The taking on/giving more and receiving less than what’s actually fair could also be Saturn if you’re vitality is diminished. Cap moon has some rank in all this given Saturn’s… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

i am seeing saturn on south node as a clean up ops of messy old relatinships (7th house). it’s been a bit complicated and wierd lately. regretting a few decisions where i let fear and doubt control me. I’m also getting more clear on my role in what has become a vexing relational issue in my life nothing some meditation and continued therapy sessions can’t help a lot with… and tidying up my own vibe. the new moon will be on my MC, conjunct Eris and opposite pluto. that’s a 100% vibe relaunch and go it alone indicator, lol. Not… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Can’t frame it up better than Mystic – do remorse over regret where you can Pi. Regret can open up space for self castigation. Cap moon already leans a little that way eh. In the scientific experiment of our life all (alleged) errors provide useful data in programming a better future and I have a feeling that’s exactly what you’re up to right now 🙂 xx

emgMM Member
emg

Oh please unpack Saturn on the SN. This Pluto on it has been bluergh. I just hope saturn will prove to be positive as in more to business rather than muck raking. I’ve a lot to be getting. On with.

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

Why would Saturn on South Node be a bad news (is it?).

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Not strictly yes and not strictly no. I don’t think anything relative to the nodes is a straight forward answer because we can’t know what happened prior to this life or in our own ancestral lines. My opinion only. Saturn also rewards for hard work or highlights where you haven’t done work so it may be that something from the past needs, some work, more work or no more work eg it is done. Saturn is structure and can also appear as authority etc so it’ll be unique to your chart I expect. However, I wonder what will play out… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yipee ai ee

emgMM Member
emg

Yippee eye A

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yipee-ay-oh
I went ghost riding in the sky…

… during last night’s dreams. It was so full and busy with so many people and events that I thought I must have been doing a life review but here I am and i think there’s some things well put to bed. Phew. Where’s that wipe the sweat off your brow emoji when you need it. Not done yet but definitely done with some things.

PS – the Concrete Blonde version is my fave.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m a sucker for “Joey”.
Such a song for a Virgo to sing.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

They have such a great catalogue beyond the Joey’s of the world and don’t we all know one of them eh.

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

<3

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

And BAM!! Here comes the past rushing in….Concrete Blonde!! Loved them so. “Still in Hollywood” was an anthem.

*She turns to peak at 1989 and figure out what she is meant to gather from that time…*

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

That was one of my anthems as well! Impetus for change whilst cultivating satire in being stuck.
I used to cover God is a bullet. I have all their stuff.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Yes! Nicely worded. Exactly that!
God Is a Bullet is so powerful, and damn–her voice!!

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