Chthonic: Pluto Conjunct The South Node

Pluto Conjunct the South Node

At first, Pluto conjunct the South Node for the next four weeks feels stuck. It’s leaden inertia. Psychically, it can be as heavy as hell.

But that phase is temporary. Pluto here unlocks a subliminal vault. Inside are hot secrets and shady aspects of your past.

Out they come and boy do they have a story to tell. It also, btw, applies more broadly to society at large.

Anything with an aura of shame can become a source of strength, like monsters in fairy tales which turn out to have been under a dark spell the whole time.

Monsters Freed Owe You A Favor

And whatever aspect of you that was bad enough to warrant lock-up in your vault probably has wildness you can use around about now.

Meanwhile, satisfyingly, Pluto conjunct the South Node will evoke a steady stream of sordid sex + money + power machinations bought into the light of day. It’s begun already.

The Ivy League admissions scandal, for example. The exposure of it was pure Mercury Retro square Jupiter, with Mercury symbolizing media and Jupiter being growth/aspiration/higher education.

But really, it’s signature is Plutonic. Secret financial transactions to secure your offspring power they were unable to generate via work, ingenuity the security of having sprung from wealth.

Secret Financial Transactions Are Absolute Pluto

At the moment, the emphasis is on the actresses involved, probably because the story is already an Aaron Sorkin vehicle in the making. But there are bound to be more exciting secrets stored in this particular vault.

And, just as Pluto conjunct the South Node was within orb, a senior member of the Catholic Church was found guilty of child sex assault. His current residence is a sharp contrast to the decades of regalia, pomp and vintage plonk swilled from golden goblets.

But that story has more to reveal.

The South Node in Capricorn is symbolically the patriarchy, and the origin of the name Pluto is “rich father” F.Y.I.  Vaults are opening all over Gaia.

So maybe it’s time to go and have a look inside yours? It’s undoubtedly the optimal astro for it.

Thoughts?

Image: Pasolini – The Witches 

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InvictaMM Member
Invicta

forwarding this to myself to read later on my phone
too much
and this was a month ago
yes
MM you are an utter genius

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Okay
wow
seriously
wow
Have not had access to a computer in MONTHS
reading this and OMGING
oh hello Saturn on my NN and Chiron on my Chiron and oh Hi True Node on my SN
Thank fook The actual moon is kind of on my Sun
err okay

cazimi
cazimi

This is uncanny, I recently met (very recently, just preceding the RxMercury to Neptune configuration when TVenus opposed my Uranus ) someone with a Venus – Mercury – moon stellium in Capricorn 10th hs; we have so much in common, shared interests, getting along like a house on fire. So Pluto & south node are right on his Venus right now, no open vaults to report just yet; I have to ask is this even safe? Or advisable? My Mars is at 26 Capricorn , my 11th hs resembles a moonscape & I wish Pluto would stop doing this to… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I am having a SN 7th contact like l could not imagine. Pluto / Asc conjunct one way, trine the other. Same with Merc / Uranus. Double GT in Synastry, Sun/Moon/Saturn GT in Composite that’s a long-term tie up!!! Blue lines 3:1 Red!

Her very late Leo Asc same as my Former wife’s Sun lighting up my Virgo Stellium. Every planet in major light up. Our Nodes opposite.

Maybe itsa Karmic, but maybe its more.

And Merc Rx in my 9th so therefore not in the continent of Australia, nor the island of Australia or the nation of Australia. Bloody Northern Hemisphere!

redondo.bleachMM Member
redondo.bleach

everyone is just mad at me for having needs of my own..

Double StelliumMM Member
Double Stellium

I think the mass murder in Christchurch fit this pattern and reveal the dark side of the xenophobic race bating patriarch we have been dealing with in open hiding here in Oz.

socialgraffitiMM Member
socialgraffiti

•Pluto is in the middle of my 7th house, and it makes a trine to my North Node •No love triangles or dramatic relationships. I have no interest. •I have been dropping friends like crazy. If I feel as though it is forced, I just leave. •I have launched my LLC and DBA. My company is officially registered with the Secretary of State as of yesterday. •I also got a P.O. Box. The number was #333, and the payment for it was also $333.33. I think it’s a sign. •I secured a large investment for my company. •Site is going… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

You inspire me re the deleting social media. I really need to do this. My Gem NN has a hard time being disconnected though

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hey Chrys – not only Cap Moon similarities but you’re also NN Gem. I’ve been barely on social media all year and took most of last year off. I’ve got a minimalist approach anyway but am completely disinterested in it.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Thanks for the encouragement, C. If I’m really honest I probably use it for numbing out. I’m at that point where I hate it and how it makes me feel, but haven’t taken the quantum leap to unplug. My Cap moon is always tallying up the wasted time and lecturing me about it x

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

It’s one of those things that is easy to distract on isn’t it. I think I was fortunate it was actually a disinterest thing and wish some other things fell away as simply as that! No right or wrongs.. and I know about that Cap Moon calculation and update scenario you speak of… 😉 x

socialgraffitiMM Member
socialgraffiti

I would really suggest it. It can be so toxic. I have NN in 3H, so I can relate. I’ve taken to writing in a journal daily.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I have NN in 3rd too.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

I, too, have NN in the 3rd. (In Pisces.) *mutable* 😉

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

lol… I’d like to drop social media but instead limiting my exposure because i’d miss out on lots of events (art opening, gin tastings etc.) and news from American and overseas friends via our secret page if I wasn’t on FB, I post my art and nice photos on insta and enjoy it, use Twitter for politics and news updates (but have intermittent breaks) when I get tired of trolls (but have been blocking left right and centre lately). Can’t see myself giving up any of these, but can see myself having breaks of a few days or weeks when… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Ride that productive way and all the bet with your ventures. I sold a number 33 a few years back. It was totally a great number/place/space. Yep. I’d be taking that as a positive omen as well!

socialgraffitiMM Member
socialgraffiti

Thank you fingers crossed.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

All the *best* (sheesh – no need to bet or cross fingers) You sound like you’re in the strike zone to me 🙂

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

“I have been dropping friends like crazy. If I feel as though it is forced, I just leave.” of all the accute shedding right now, this is the hardest for me. In both ways, I feel the loss of this. I’m still experiencing a heaing crisis and as these feelings intensifuy, the weight of the planets sits within my hardest truths; to move on.

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

Pluto at 22 Cap is in my 9th house; square my Mars at 22 Libra. And Saturn is just arriving at my Cap moon at 19. It all feels super crunchy. At 61 I’m lucky to have a job that pays well but it’s a frustrating job in which all my power and autonomy feels continually stripped away, mostly by people 30 years younger than I am, or more. I’d love to go back to grad school (9th house!) but can’t figure out a way to make it work, or where. But I didn’t make great long-term choices when I… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hey VR, that’s around where my 9th starts and Saturn will be approaching my Moon soon enough. Pluto in residence. Feelin’ it.

Different transitions we can go through in life can feel limiting particularly when a new wave of energy starts to grab the wheel but I reckon you should follow your heart and do some study if you’re called to it.

magnoliaMM Member
magnolia

Aah yes, Pluto!! still MORE dreams of a past, very long term relationship that I finally left ten years ago for much needed space and to reclaim my own life .. .I am not being allowed to pretend that I can have any type of friendship with him, he is the father of my fully adult children, as whenever I even think this way the dreams start and the ” No Entry” signs go up. It was Pluto in Cap (7th house) that finally shoved me into leaving…and it’s still doing it’s powerful work. This long transit was much needed… Read more »

Andy
Andy

i had some thoughtful insights into denial, fantasy and the dubious love zombie ..! we shouldnt be so harsh on even the most undesirable parts of ourselves <3

kerryGMM Member
kerryG

Personal vault opened – long ago – but apparently blocked til now – beyond belief Brazilian relationship debri flowing out and down the Ganga – opening space
For something new 🙂

Alouetta
Alouetta

I wonder if Pell being jailed and Leaving Neverland airing is stirring some personal demons for people. Might be a few more monsters coming to light yet.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I don’t get why people defend em when there is credible evidence out there
Entertainment folk have been doing things wrong for years. So have religious people. No career path is impervious to doing wrong. However some careers, seemingly, attract these wackos.

Alouetta
Alouetta

The only thing I can think of is that they’ve over-identified with them and it feels like a personal attack. But yeah. It makes no fucking sense.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Charisma and glamour, being pr-machined always in to the consciousness of folk. Those folk relaxed in being entertained or placing faith in authoritative guidance, awed by talents and powers. Now their own trust is abused, as well: it’s shock. Denial. Ain’t the longest river etc but sure talk-babbles in shock like a long long river.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

And that is shock of the Shadow. If people they thought amazing can have such darkness, they have to wonder what is lurking in their own Shadow. Most say they can’t understand what drives people to do such things, or that they cannot imagine doing such. I’ve noted over time how this is first response verbally to others.

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

((Abuse of power))

astraeagoldMM Member
astraeagold

I get it. Don’t share it, I but get it. If the person (Pell, Jackson, whoever) has been/is central to your identity, if you have been inspired by them for years, put them on a pedestal, then such terrible truths will make you question yourself, your judgement, your choices. If you have been wrong about this, what else have you been wrong about in your life? how could you have idolised someone who has done these things? So if there is a chance, however slender, that they have been wrongly accused and especially if there are others who believe that… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

So these people are not able to separate their virtues from their vices. I like Dylan and Picasso but l know they have done less than virtuous things but their art is still valid. But who is perfect. Denial tips it into really difficult territory.

LibrariusMM Member
Librarius

I’m experiencing a consipicuous lack of plutonic insights right now! But probably because a lot of them happened almost every single day of January-February. Crucial letters were exchanged just before the Mercury Retro shadow deepened, and important matters were settled. Wondering if, just maybe, all that effort bought me some peace for a while, despite the current astro – because all is quiet on the Pluto front and I’m enjoying – yes, actually enjoying! – an unusually smooth M. Retrograde so far.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

does this mean secrets will spill on the personal realm?
been seeing my ex with my brothers ex…dur dur durrrrr!
and the jealousy has been horrendous. they deny theyre sleeping together. ok.
they have mars/pluto exact conjunct, both in their 6th hse….please dont tell me theyre having a mega passionate reship! ive read it could mean violence too.
i AM getting over it…slowly but surely…but my god…didnt think i was a jealous person! ha!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pluto in the 7th is a shit. Having the SN there just adds to it. I wished my erstwhile Pisces a happy birthday. She finally put her massive mutability to one side and admitted that me having little in the way of assets was the issue. Being on a good wage (100K) was not enough for her. She had her Sagg Moon exact the 2nd Cusp. This Moon is a focaliser in 7 T-Squares all with the generational Virgo conjunct and a Pisces Stellium with an Aqua planet assisting. Note to self: never chase a person with the Moon in… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Yeah I’m I second house moon and I’m just starting to come to terms with how much the house placement affects me. I’m totally not that bad though, if I was I would never have married who I did. My “I refuse to die of tedious conversation and boredom” Venus in Gemini conjunct Jupiter trumps any materialistic hoo-ha.

Jokerman
Jokerman

As you’d know those T Squares were her difficulty. We had a wonderful Virgo/Water Kite. But this hidden thing was never revealed. I did suspect it but she claimed there was no issue. My issue is to believe that, afterall this, Pluto will do some Raising. Believe me she has done a heck of a lot of Razing. But all this stuff in Capricorn has me morose. And, oh joy, we got 2020 coming up. And I’m punch drunk with Uran just done wrecking my career by opposing my IC and now coming up to my Neptune and Jup. Neptune… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

T-squares are tough on the individual, and if one thinks one has it sorted, relating can shake loose more fundamental (ie, not fun, quite mental) native energies in holding patterns. Can only work if one is willing to evolve enough to take that on, and if the two have real loving honesty for the four (or more) of them

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Triple Toro’s moon in 2nd house Toro is opp his 8th house Neptune in Scorp. Always giving money and resources away to no-hoper friends and family; doing business with mates “who just need to get back on their feet” and getting bitten every time. Useless with money. A big deal-breaker for me.

Jokerman
Jokerman

You should try Pluto in the 2nd.
“The Croupier will now clear the table…”

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Snap! ‘I refuse to die of tedious conversation and boredom” Venus in Gemini conjunct Jupiter trumps any materialistic hoo-ha.’ That would be my Gem sun in my case! Moon Mercury and Mars in 2nd Toro — I would very much like to be financially secure, but couldn’t marry for financial security 😀

Jokerman
Jokerman

Stand alone values, I like.

Britta
Britta

My partner has a tight moon, mars, Neptune conjunction in the 2nd and they need that financial stability too

Jokerman
Jokerman

That’s some heavy astro right there.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

What does that say about an 8th house moon tho? “emotional security (that keeps getting yanked away from you, because 8th house “transformation”) from other people’s money” lololol

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well, in defense of the planets and their house and sign placements. there is good and bad expressions. Her 2nd Moon is debilitated by the fact it Focalisers seven T Squares. Of course l love your Moon’s placement. And you’ve been through shit creek with what other people have done to you. And l have similar to yours in having Pluto in the 2nd. “Poor Boy” (Supertramp) “Can you believe me when I say, there’s nothing I like better, Than just to sit here and talk with you. Although I’ll rant and I’ll rave about one thing and another The… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Ok, can I be a bit thick and ask what I’m
Looking for in my chart?

South mode, yep found that.
Pluto, yep found that.

Or
Is this part of transits? (absolute beginner baby)

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

If you go to astro dot com and click the extended chart options you’ll see a drop-down for ‘natal chart and transits’. Click that, and also in the display and calculation options tick ‘descending node’. Then hit click here to show the chart. You’ll see your chart, and around the outer edge the symbols in green showing where the planets are right now. You can then see how the positions of the planets today are situated in relation to your natal planets. ‘Transiting’ just means if the planet in the sky right now is making any connections to your natal… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Thank you Chrysalis. Can do this for sure. Will do this later for evening fun times but also have mm’s year ahead too. Had both out last night. I’d really love a decent intro book to planets and houses in fact. .. at some point. I love paper, screens are quick and modern but sometimes I just want to read about planets and houses. Would also really love to print them.. I’m a printmaker on a soul level x

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks for asking the question WD. It’s information I really needed to know but I just didn’t know how to formulate the right question. Neptune dreaming found it elusive and mysterious. I thought it was meant to be.

Now I can get out of the dream and move forward with my astrology.

And astrology is like tarot. I felt that when I looked at the transiting chart wheel. Have fun exploring.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Oh and I’ve got Pluto and my south node Scorpio in my 11th house. I like it because I can be around people and still feel I have my own space and my essence is nicely contained. That’s a nice change for a Pisces rising. I was in a shopping centre today and had the visual of me with my head above water in the sea. It has been a long time since I have felt like this. I was at peace and could take in the view. Also probably a testament to a deep healing I have had recently.

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

I have a ton of stuff in the 11th house. Surround and environment is super important when we are hyper aware. It’s so lovely you feel like you are feeling not quite so overwhelmed by it. Shipping centres are next level environmental stimulation on steroids so that’s amazing x

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

I mean my 11th house is natally empty but currently it is being transmitted. It gives me a filter I don’t normally have so it’s great. Only the good, friendly, happy comes in. I wish I could pause it

Its an opportunity to strengthen boundaries as I forgot to mention Saturn is there. Saturn is my friend.

ScorpleocapMM Member
Scorpleocap

Oh don’t you love mercury retrograde – just typed up my longest comment ever to date only to have it disappear on me! Anyway, to summarise – fantastic post and very thought provoking. I’d been wondering your take on recent events, Mystic! Secrets and truths seem to be spilling out like never before, (and with Cardinal Pell it started on the Sagg moon too, just after Mystic said “wait for the truths and secrets to emerge”), and to me it feels like there’s such a shift in consciousness now where people are suddenly caring a lot more about behaviour, ethics,… Read more »

firecowMM Member
firecow

Interesting – I’ve been pondering the way I was sent out into the world (the old fashioned way – almost zero support you’ll be right) and how I want to provide more support for my children so they don’t have to struggle as much as I did. Definitely feels like the cap/cancer axis.

A_J_MM Member
A_J_

I had a past life reading that confirmed what I long suspected: I am my maternal grandmother reincarnated.

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

Intense

A_J_MM Member
A_J_

Totally. I’ve had a volatile relationship with my mom for most of my life. This knowledge around my grandmother and I explains so much.

rachellionMM Member
rachellion

Conj my natal SN, Opposite my sun, merc and NN. Sigh.

Ellie MMM Member
Ellie M

I’m a bit scared about all of this. Pluto did a job on my Venus Mars 20 Aries in the tenth house all last year. Hoped that was the end of it! I also have draconic sun at 20 Capricorn which I feel is sensitive to transits. Will also have progressed full moon next January around the time of Pluto sat conjunction, and descendant 26 cap. Solar return moon is 20 cap too. God help me

LibrariusMM Member
Librarius

I had, you could say, an analogous situation (at least in terms of intensity if not the specifics) last year and survived (am tempted to say “just barely”, because contemplation of doing myself in was a daily practice for some of that time). What I think saw me throug all these very dense transits was (1) enormous curiosity how it’s all going to look when that period is over and (2) adamant belief (I conveniently didn’t stop to examine that belief) that all the changes, even the absolutely devastating ones, are actually… if not for the better in the conventional… Read more »

Ellie MMM Member
Ellie M

Thank you for your thoughtful and kind comments Librius. And yes you’re right. As scary and tough as certain chapters in our lives can be, a big part me also understands that there’s a reason for it all, ie destiny I tend towards a positive interpretation of astrology and whatever happens in my life and that even if things seem dire at the moment, it’s all leading me to where I’m supposed to be

Emis4magicMM Member
Emis4magic

This is my entire life right now. In November my ex husband was charged with (and confessed to) molesting his 8 yr old step daughter. Our son was in his custody, across the country for his school year. The court let him transfer custody to his parents FROM HIS JAIL CELL, never notifying us. 5 months, 4 CPS trials, and an ocean of tears later this man is STILL WALKING FREE. And his parents have held on to custody of our son because of technicalities- it’s a Plutonian atom bomb. My ex’s father is super influential in this teeny tiny… Read more »

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Omgoddess I’m sure you are about to lose your mind. I went through a similar situation with my ex (no child molestation but definitely child-sharing issues while he was charged with felony agg assault w/a deadly weapon – against me) 6 years ago and I’m now writing a book loosely based on those events. The book writing is cathartic for me, for sure (and I expect to get a lot done in this next month). I wish you all the otherworldly assistance that is available to help you and your son get away from this fuqer ASAP. Peace and love… Read more »

Emis4magicMM Member
Emis4magic

Thank you, thank you for sharing that. It’s healing and grounding and connecting. It means more than you know xx

Ellie MMM Member
Ellie M

May I ask what your astrology is? Anything around the 20 ish degree cardinal? Progressed or otherwise…

Emis4magicMM Member
Emis4magic

I’m Gemini Sun, Taurus Ascendant, Aries moon. I have Neptune at 19 degrees in Sagittarius. Do you think that’s significant?

MJPL
MJPL

I hope so too.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Ger the media involved.

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

I have Pluto, Saturn and the South Node all in the 12th currently. Sun and Mercury are conjunct the South Node, Pluto is sextile the South Node, Jupiter is square the South Node oh and South Node is conjunct my Ascendant. Not sure wha tall that means but seems like a lot going on LOL

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

My natal SN is at 14* Cancer, so kind of flipped from this conjunction. I did pay down a substantial amount off debt this week thanks to an unexpected refund for a business deal gone bad.

Other than that, no clue what else this could mean. Any ideas?

LilithLoveMM Member
LilithLove

Ohhh in my 7th – smelly smelly and in close orb opp to vesta in my 2nd … maybe some spiritual power to be gained when I take on a more vestal virgin priestess vibe re my relationship and sexual history

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

YES! I did this towards the end of my last relationship with a particularly manipulative Libra-Capricorn-Leo who used sex to manipulate me by denying any sexual contact any time I was doing something he didn’t like…or calling him out on his bull*%&#…or being more professionally successful than him…. I decided to flip it on him, started a meditation practice and told him I would be remaining chaste for the time being since we weren’t enjoying our sexualities anyway. Add some more nonsense about it being sacred, after all. The relationship imploded soon after, all in my benefit. His secrets and… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

“Like monsters in fury tales” is what i saw. So i know people who could bring sh* down further, given the court exposure at higher levels, and i ran into my own stoopid abooser in the summer, and i know i could bring it down on him in some way, too. But we are all living our lives in unprecedented successes (considering the failed lives of the abused, and so we get told). How those successes taste bitter to us, with the acid of loss and grief, ok. We are not giving those up. We will not be party to… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Feeling the power emanating from these words.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Oh Mille this has really given me food for thought, thank you for writing so eloquently and fiercely as always x

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

I wish for you both and anyone who feels anything of my words there, that you find your inner circle, and keep remembering who and where each of them/us stand in love and wise fierceness, not just combat. I wish for truth to be healing, even if for a moment it is confronting. We were confronted, and we also have the space and right to confront that. And we do really need peace with who we are, part of our actual worlds, not damaged goods who need to hide and excuse or explain the damage.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Totally get that it’s cool due to working the venom and heat offline. And yeah, it’s my kind of normal but you frame it in an entirely different way. Genius! xx

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Been feeling the “stuck/oppressed” phase for about a week now. Pluto/SN is close enough to be deemed in opposition of my 27 Cancer moon (in the 8th). I’m gathering the plunge into the dark abyss will come with a large helping of “fuq it” and “if you can’t beat em, join em” resignation, especially for a Plutoid like me. Planning to write as much as possible during this next month – Mercury retro with Neptunian influence is helping re-spark the old imagination. Perfect timing as the book is about to take me into the darkness.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Oh and transit Pluto/SN (transiting my 2nd) is exactly trine my natal Saturn at 22 Taurus in my 5th, and my natal Pluto at 27 Virgo in my 9th (which is conj my Sun at 1 Lib and MC at 4 Lib). So powerful grand earth trine. Manifesting money out of creativity and the higher mind?

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

This is juicy! A balsamic 8th house moon and Merc in Scorp live for this kind of astro. And I love the term ‘chthonic’. Segues to Ursula le Guin’s The Tombs of Atuan. Ahh..

Have been working more with lunar cycles and womb clearing (that’d be spirit womb as opposed to actual) – happy to have help unlocking the secrets and shadows that gave been lurking/parasiting in “the vault”.

ReikologyMM Member
Reikology

So I woke up this morning, and in my commute thought of writing to you to ask what is going on in the south node. Came to the site, and this! Spot on as always Mystic..

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Transiting Pluto/SN trine my natal Pluto/MC conjunction. Approaching exact Chiron return. Bodily systems powering down for reboot. This hurts–emotionally & physically. Resonating with Centaurus’s words about the gnarliness of standing over a cauldron. Would love a hearty & self-satisfied laugh. That comes later I suppose. Mercury Rx is just some added juice, but like battery acid, not lemon juice and definitely not orange juice. Muscles twitching. Sharp twangs and pangs. And a constant lookout for the one or ones in the community who are sending me the bad vibes…because this constant ill-feeling is not just me-generated. One day at a… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Oh boy, you’ve got Pluto Pluto and the SN – on the MC so what’s hidden is in full view… Yeah baby, it’s gnarly, hot and grubby work eh. Roll those sleeves up and wipe your brow. We ain’t done yet and you will find that laugh but it might be like most of mine lately.. self depreciating, satirical, dry.. today was a few seconds of hope and optimism which is a tonic for fire. Don’t spend your good energy on looking out for those types though I get it’s super simple to say. Armour up and just know they’re… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Thank you for the support and direction. All the best laughs are self-deprecating. Indeed.
Re: bad vibers…was grateful to get confirmation from an intuitive friend that I might want to do just as you prescribe–armor up and generate love from within. Having hunches acknowledged is helpful.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Mate, anytime and it was also a bit like a note to self at the moment as well. I’m taking my own medicine and hoping it’s the right dose.. adjusting as required. I don’t think this comes under self medicating… does it? 😉

Yes having your own intuition validated is totally helpful. And it’s great to have good friends who can do this isn’t it.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Meee toooooo…. sobs. And I have Chiron on my IC. You must be a 1970-ish born person. Is your ASC near 20 Sag? That’s what mine is. Pluto at 27 Virgo conj MC at 4 Lib. I feel like I’ve been sick/injured/hit by a cosmic bus since Thanksgiving. And yes, my muscles have started twitching along with horrible insomnia (prob due to time change last weekend actually – my circadian rhythms have not yet adjusted) in this last week or so. I am one issue shy of being miserable.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

” I am one issue shy of being miserable.” This line makes me want to laugh–there’s that wry self-deprecation–and hoist a frothy drink in your general direction. I hear you! I feel it! Sob/laugh/snort.

Early Sag rising with a 21°Virgo Pluto on the MC.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

One issue shy…. yep.

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Passing over my Salacia which trines (? blue lines) my Neptune and South Node, Sun and North Node, and Saturn. Opposite Vesta (haha) and finally squaring moon. Is it getting hot in here?

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Today I had a particular thought that resonated – I’m a genius. Not egoic, not at all.. just a super clear recognition of bringing myself back into spaces that evoke early life and past lives and doing it intentionally to clear whatever needs clearing because I’m a coal face kind of human. I do my best work facing things head on not from a distance. I have been quite ingenious in setting up the stage I have. I couldn’t have done it any other way and I couldn’t have allowed myself to see the plot in advance.I had a moment… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Usually if someone proclaims themselves a genius I’d jump down their throat for being so bloody arrogant.

But in your case I’ll make an exception. I have a picture of you on my wall.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Usually I’d be the same and I hesitated to make that comment in type where context is so blurred. It downloaded driving back from a shift in the broader crap that is an ongoing and relentless series of challenges that keep rising like the tide every time I manage to get my foot into something solid. I don’t share much of the day to day and remain understated in my descriptors because I contain energy and work with it in what I suppose would be alchemical process but that can sound cool and kitch and simplify the actuality of the… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Better to be at the Mercy of Mercury
Than the Mash of Mars.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Mars transit conjunct Asc – I’d definitely call this week the mash of Mars. It has totally been a scorched earth week. Is Mercury merciful? I’ll let you know when he squares off my natal retro soon enough. Pluto on Moon/Venus still rules the game like the power behind the throne…

Are the planets spinning and I’m standing still?
How can that be?
I’m dizzy.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pluto applying opposition to my Sun.
Like the “Neverending Story” my biological real estate is disappearing and my Moon is atrophying.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

NN conjunct Sun?.

Biological real estate – you’ll need to give me a definition on that one.

Maybe your Moon is undergoing a metamorphosis… look for the life forming beyond the decay.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

omg “look for the life forming beyond the decay” is brilliant. Love love love this, had a zinger of recognition in this. I think I need to listen to some death metal, lol, and let it all diiiiieeeeeee.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hehe… doing some metal fingers and trying to scan for signs of life amongst the bones 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

My Sun is 27°. NN has gone past it. I can honestly say it was a big fat nothing.
I’ve lived in Dresden for 6 years now.
Clean air, food and shelter is what l do in a 1st world setting.

Pluteau had Plateaued and will be opposing my Sun for the next 5 years. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing (to steal a line from Billy Preston). Its a zero sum game.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Interesting how some transits don’t reveal themselves clearly immediately. With the nodes I would probably be thinking about the south as well and whether that has brought something of a former self or other back, challenged a future path or vision and so on.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Seriously, I have no idea, about anything. The only bit of my astro-dna in operation is my Merc-Uran in Leo and Aqua Moon funguy. I am depressed big-time. I struggle to do a days work in a week. I live rejection, SN in my 7th with Saturn and Pluto. I haven’t bothered to look at what other bastard may be lurking there. Uran has taken away the only thing I enjoyed. I was that rare teacher that could empathize with them. (I came from white-trash). That loss has hurt me and hurt me deeply. I can do other people’s charts… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Ok… forgive my inability to keep yours (anyone’s) info in my mind but here’s a few thoughts that are coming up… Chiron has just landed in your 10th yes? What is he here to show you? In saying that I don’t mean specifically ‘wound’ related though there’s evidence in what you wrote and I know what you’ve been through. I also mean what you have gained mastery of. Chiron might be the wounded healer archetype but he is also mastery and probably a bit like the hermit archetype as well. Is it too early for him to be aspecting Uranus… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ta, I’ll sleep on it.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

One final thought here – you might also consider Saturn. That feeling is applicable with his transit as well.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks CT, as usual, sound advice. There is no bone left in my head to bash. But I’ve been here before. Maybe one day my ship might come in. Saturn in my 7th. My 7th is Capricorn. Scorpio dominates my 4th but rules my 5th. Pisces’ rulers are SD Focalisers in Scorpio. I have USS Nimitz type desire. I cruel myself with desire. And where does it manifest? In the house where your chart ruler lives. My 7th that I endlessly bang on about. I was absolutely convinced, as a 6yo, that Sally Field was going to marry me. Stationary… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

…. just a ‘few’ thoughts hahahaha

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

This was meant to come below my looong comment

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Ooohhhh when i was a kid i thought Atreyu was a Kataka!

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

YES, YOU ACTUALLY ARE. So, of course you couldn’t feel it when the Work takes humility. But confidence and humility are parts of the power scale. You ride that scale when you have true power. That’s in JM’s first comment, and i KNOW that comment from the inside 😀

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

It’s the culmination of banging my head that resulted in spinning situations to give me more mojo to keep on keeping on ;D Genius felt better than idiot. And as I’ve sat with that it’s actually kind of left me. It fuelled the tank and bolstered a tired soul and served it’s purpose I guess. The solution hasn’t magically manifested but Mercury is still retro so I’m ok with that. I truly think there is a kind of genius in the way all of us can bring ourselves to places to grow and evolve but we don’t catch that part… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

All in my 11th. Flying off tomorrow to my new life which is bound to unearth more real me.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Safe travels! xx

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Happy travels and new beginnings emg!

emgMM Member
emg

Merci !

HilarygherkinMM Member
Hilarygherkin

Just discovered that my uncle has an eye condition which only affects those of Maōri descent (always suspected we were anyway), which means that my great-grandparents wete probably not my great-grandparents.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

This is quite the pile-up! Pluto-SN is on my Vertex, Eros and Juno. I’ve also got Lilith on my Venus/Dsc and transiting Jupiter just finished with my natal SN. I had a sleepless night seriously thinking about outing the lover/abuser who got back in touch with me, and outing the other lover from years ago whose secret I kept, and informing officialdom about some info that’s recently come to light about a toxic office higher-up’s tax evasion. It’s like the secrets absolutely will not be contained within me any longer. And why should I keep them? – I ask myself.… Read more »

fishgirlMM Member
fishgirl

Jesus. Resonant, much?
Feeling plutoed…