It’s Metaphysical – The Eighth House In Astrology

Astrology Eighth House

The Eighth House in astrology is classically the domain of Sex, Death, the Occult and Other People’s Money. People with prominent eighth houses in their birth chart have experience in these areas that would scramble the synapses of non-Eighth Housers.

They’re Slytherin. They’re armchair metaphysicians. They are psychic through smell. They’re brilliant in a crisis. In an emergency room environment, the Eighth House person will be a towering force of calm strength and positivity, making cheery small talk to lighten unavoidable waiting times and taking care of must-dos. But you cannot rely on them to behave “normally” in a mundane situation. They’re like the sergeant in The Hurt Locker who was super-chill when defusing a bomb under enemy fire but severely anxious in a mall with muzak. They’re comfortable with what the F.B.I. calls “complex terrain.”

They have all-access passes to places others don’t know are in existence. Their boundaries are borders, heavily guarded.

Everyone Misunderstands The Eighth House in Astrology

Classic Eighth house themes include the ‘chosen loss’ of pregnancy terminations, sex and mercenary work (especially with Venus or Mars in the eighth house), super-acute instincts and sensitivity to power dynamics. This lot don’t need seances or mediums. They’ve got other dimensions on the cognitive equivalent of speed dial. Subconsciously or not, they feel all relationships are transactional, and that true merging only ever occurs with Source Vibe/God/Qi. They’re driven obsessives who can succumb to paranoia, but you can bet it will be well-researched paranoia. Their spook skills are exemplary.

People accuse them of being aloof or taciturn, but half their hobbies are taboo topics and the other half are secrets. Their presence and anti-fragility come from things they’ll never tell you about. At least you know they’ll never leak your private information. They don’t care if people think they’re boring or lead a quiet life. Their specialties include pulling off massive makeovers or transforming things. Eighth House people like people, situations, and companies that are in transformation mode. They’re caustic when around stagnant energy; it’s probably a protective mechanism. Complacency brings out their snark.

Stale Energy Stalls Their Hustle

What makes a prominent Eighth house? Generally, the Sun, Moon + a personal planet there but the person’s ruling planet counts three-fold. If it is a stellium in the eighth house, congratulations. You’re supernatural, wealthy via strange means and most of your romances are paranormal. Just joking. People get spooked at the “death” aspect of the Eighth house, but really, it means that Eighth house people can confront the prospect of their mortality with the same pragmatic composure they bring to any end. They know every ending is a beginning somewhere else and that there are two billion galaxies in the universe.

‘Other People’s Money’ is an archaic term that you can understand more easily as resources gained through other people. Eighth House people are not usually attached to status or the perception of being wealthy, but they’re emotional about money, especially shared $$$ in relationships – always a flashpoint, taxation, and debt. Stale energy stalls their hustle. They need to be actively evolving something to earn. The ‘Sex’ factor doesn’t mean that they’re high-libido, sexually driven people. Of course, they can be. But Eighth House people’s high awareness of sex and power dynamics does not necessarily translate into an active sex life.

Occult Means Concealed Or Hidden

The ‘Occult’ that makes up the classic litany of Eighth House concerns is also misapprehended! Many people think “occult” means scheduled esoteric rituals, particularly involving nudity and giant pentagrams.  But the word comes from the Latin “to conceal” and alludes to hidden dimensions that we cannot see. Eighth House people are into learning about the occult the moment they move beyond their early reader books. As kids, they swarmed straight to the 130s section of their local library: parapsychology, religion, astrology, religion, dream analysis, etc.

Thoughts?

You can see what you’ve got going on in the Eighth house via an Astral DNA birth report OR if an Outer Planet transit is activating it with the Year Ahead Astral Passages.

 

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Yann Bradburn
Yann Bradburn

Interesting. Ive a comment about the death aspect you mention above.You state that they ” can confront the prospect of their mortality”.. As a uber 8th person.. Sag ascendant rising Jupiter with 8th house sun mercury Jupiter and Uranus.. does that make me stellium?..anyway.. Im older and wander a little..my life has been exciting is an understatement but the main thing I attribute to my 8th house learning is that I die every 9 years or so and completely remake myself. Im in the start of another adventure now. Im like the cat with 9 lives..Everything is going or has… Read more »

lindapetersMM Member
lindapeters

Been experimenting with house systems on and off for some months. Now using whole sign system which puts Taurus stellium in 8th instead of 7th and Sun in 7th instead of 6th. Moon and Pluto in 11th instead of 10th. Neptune/Saturn in 1st instead of 12th. Whole sign is making a whole lot more sense in regard to lived experience. Ceres now in 9th. Food for thought.

julie m.
julie m.

Stellium in the Eight House –Sun in Virgo, Uranus in Leo, Pluto in Virgo, and N. Node in Leo. You can imagine how I was as a child. ps. Pisces moon.

Alex
Alex

Wow! I have my ruling planet Taurus there plus my moon, too! But maybe, when I was little, the people around me, suppressed me because you know we were heavily were into church, no t.v., no radio, no nothing, just studying the Bible all Saturday and going all day on Sundays so, everything was a sin. I was like hostage in my own house, with my own people. I couldn’t have any friends. Nothing. So I didn’t develop my own personality until now, I’m rediscovering myself.

Serena
Serena

It all rings true to me. I’ve got the Sun and 4 other planets here.
Reading grimoires and casting spells at 10 yrs old, I was a real baby witch – to the horror of everyone around me. 😀

rachelMM Member
rachel

Fuqing screaming inside–8th house north node in Aqua–everything is so on

JupiterRuledMM Member
JupiterRuled

With all my Scorp placements (Sun, Moon, Merc, Uranus), in the 12th house no less – I feel like a bonafide 8th house person. … but my 8th contains my NN (Leo) (which is square my Sun). Mars rising in Sag just keeps it on the up-up-up!

I don’t go very far outside my inner circle to broadcast with my physic knowledge or secret desire to be an undertaker/Private Investigator/ Erotic novelist. I feel like this is something I should understand better.

birdMM Member
bird

I’m finding this post and the comments very soothing. I don’t have any 8th housers in real life. It’s lonely! Thanks everyone. <3<3<3

A couple of weeks ago I heard about a death doula who runs courses in Byron. Death doula?! I would be SO GREAT at that! I’m in!

amaranthismeMM Member
amaranthisme

Me in a hand basket
As always very refreshing to turn the page and roll with the dice.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Interesting day and weekend ometaphysically. Not so much about the materialistic but connecting with older people and viewing the cycle of life. Chatted to a lady born in 1945, really with it. She told me her life story., all good. It was interesting. we exchanged numbers. Then ran into my retired Gemini real estate agent. Chatted a long while. When I got home after a few beers I realised he was losing his memory a bit. I felt sad, he was a linch pin to my now stable life. He is an eccentric, spiritual man. We are good friends He… Read more »

lilopinpinMM Member
lilopinpin

Wow! Spot on! I have stellium and ruler in 8th. And the cutest thing I did as a 10 year old is waste my families printer ink to print 100 something pages of every demon and angel alphebatically.. since I’m 12 I’ve been asking everyone what their astrological sign is, no clue as to what prompted me to start doing that lol.

Emmett
Emmett

Yep thanks – I have both Jupiter and Uranus conjunct in 8th house- it’s always about the 3 Amigos Sex Death & Taxis

maeveMM Member
maeve

Hi Mystic,
Just a quick question, what if you have no planets in the 8th? No sex?? lol lol

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Or death or money lol

emgMM Member
emg

My aqua man has Saturn in his 8th which is aqua and I must say sex is not important to him or has any real deep meaning. It is pump grind and shower!

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

I am a man and I have Saturn in the 8th.. but I also have Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Capricorn with a Fire Sun and Fire Moon lol.

emgMM Member
emg

He has Venus in cappi too !

HelMM Member
Hel

Look to the sign you have in that house 😉

skarabMM Member
skarab

If a house is empty, it doesn’t mean that that area of life is non existent to you – it could very well mean that you don’t have complex issues to work out in that area, or that you don’t focus your energies there as much as the houses where your planets are. Empty houses can also be viewed through their ruler as well – so look at the cusp sign and see what its ruler is doing. You could also look at where Scorpio and Pluto lie in your chart. I’ve found that the empty houses in my chart… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I love a haute 8th houser. Low omg run

skarabMM Member
skarab

Talking of 8th House flavour, what about Jeff Bezos and his cockfight at dawn with David Pecker (couldn’t make this sh*t up) re the dick-pics? Bezos has Pluto sitting on his Sun right now. I mean, what’s a Pluto transit for the world’s richest man if it doesn’t involve sex, blackmail, politics and power games? And just for the heck of it (and coz i is on a cocktail of opiates), i checked for asteroids Dick and Pecker (#17458 & #1629 respectively). So he’s got Dick on his Neptune – now that was never going to stick. And Saturn lit… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

Good grief, my Lilith is tightly flanked by asteroids Dick & Dong …… this explains so MUCH.

PiMM Member
Pi

Remind me to check for these asteroids transiting (or progressed, Lawd) when I have made some questionable decisions.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Im dying. What.?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

OMG genius! I have just checked my Dick and Pecker placements. I have Dick on my Jupe in Toro, pinging my grand earth trine and making it seem bigger than it really is. I have Pecker bang on my Gem NN. Transiting Dick is on my Neptune/ IC, which is technically my Dick opposition. Is that a thing?? Transiting Pecker is on my Leo rising. Thank goodness for transiting Gary almost on my Sun-Saturn, bringing some sensible to the table.

skarabMM Member
skarab

😛 😛 😛
I knew you’d … rise to the occasion.
(And goddess bless Gary – always the rock in any situ.)

birdMM Member
bird

Skarab…LOLOLOLOL!

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Thanks skarab for setting it up, lol – a nice antidote to the heavy merde I’m going through at the mo x

LightningButterflyMM Member
LightningButterfly

I’m confused as to whether or not I have a stellium….I have 3 planets in the 8th House (Uranus, Moon & Pluto), but they are not all in the same sign. Uranus is in Libra, the other 2 are in Virgo. I was certainly fascinated by occult stuff by an early age and even “talked to God,” but I didn’t hit the 130 shelf at the library til I was a teenager. Then I introduced all my friends to “Love Signs.” 🙂

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

You can have a stellium by sign and by house. You have a house stellium.

LightningButterflyMM Member
LightningButterfly

Thank you! It’s exciting to know this about myself.

LiaMM Member
Lia

Wow! You really nailed it. I have the sun in Aquarius in the 8th house, and Mercury – I was totally reading about witches and poltergeists when I was little. Still keeping things hidden in the realms of sex and death. Cool!

pennyluisaMM Member
pennyluisa

8th in mercury, venus, and lillith all in Aries. Started doing white magic around 8 or 9 and stopped in junior year of high school. I also stated learning tarot and all other things astrology you mentioned at a young age. When I can’t sleep I’ll just read my natal chart and learn more about my aspects ever though I read about it 1000x over. I also love listening to true crime and mystery podcasts. To me life is all about learning and living both good and bad. Its all about that the human psyche and the why. It’s about… Read more »

JacquelineMM Member
Jacqueline

I’m loving this discussion, and learning soooo much. My 8th house is Scorpio, with Mars at 17 degrees and Neptune AND Vesta both at 14 degrees. I’m Aries Rising. It’s only recently (I’m 55) that I realized I’m Mars ruled. (Always thought I was Venus ruled because Libra Sun, also Venus in Libra). Anyhoo, I always thought of Neptune being detrimental to Mars, as in the Warrior God shows up and Neptune gets him drunk on some dreamy elixir of big possibilities. As I’ve grown older, I’m getting more comfortable with being one of what Mystic termed “visionary people with… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Your face shouts Mars(very strong) with watery spooky charm under a veil of Libran soft beauty.

Don’t waste your energy trying to placate people, its written in your face. At least I think so.

And I’m not hitting on you, I’m female and not gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

JacquelineMM Member
Jacqueline

I didn’t think of it as hitting on me at all.
I was just relishing the lovely compliment. I appreciate it madly. thank you.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

That’s the pithiest description of Mars conjunct Neptune I’ve ever read – thank you!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Oooh, I love an eighth house discussion. Scorpio rising with Mars/Lilith and Venus/Jupiter in Gemini, I have twins in my twins. I love Plutonic/Scorpionic/8th housers, it’s something you just get and it can be rough when people misread or misunderstand the intensity. It’s a mode of being and useless to try to muffle or mask. I have Pluto in the 11th so I don’t expect to win any popularity contests but you can be damn sure something ‘on the scene’ will transform. In first grade I was an advanced reader and blew through the curriculum so my teacher gave me… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

“it can be rough when people misread or misunderstand the intensity” —heartlanders don’t get the intensity. *I* didn’t get my intensity…as a teen and most of my life until, nearing 50. My best frenemy in high school gave me a book for Christmas our senior year, “The Misjudged Mushroom.” The story of an edible mushroom mistaken for a poisonous one…She told me it was about me. Ha!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I get that! You get used to being misjudged after a while then give up and let other people sort it out for themselves. That’s my experience anyway.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

So it’s confusing when you grow up being gaslighted, raised by narcissist or other fools…once you grow your super power boundaries, it’s all good…for the most part.

AcqualunaMM Member
Acqualuna

Saturn in Pisces eighth houser with magic Pluto giving a boost from the third. Thanks Mystic! I will rethink what I thought was a deficit.
Great comments!

Also, married to a sun (Gemini) mars and Uranus (cancer) eighth houser. He is the ultimate mystic, so fun!

SMM Member
S

Oh my stats this vibes so well. No wonder I worked in Government and could see the power structures at work. My sex life is a topic that’s most misunderstood by conventional interpretations. Private and stealth. With any sings of paranoia based on the running of my trauma interpretation spun through the communication obtained from profiling and understanding primal instincts and humanity.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Your humility is most welcome S

SMM Member
S

Thank you Jokerman. I’m Pluto in the 8th House after all, that has been a revelation.

SMM Member
S

With my Sun, Moon and Mercury squaring Pluto.

Jokerman
Jokerman

“Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than those who are most content.” (R Zimmerman) S, it’s always more inspiring to learn off others, who have experienced shit, than to hear recommendations from a theoretic understanding. In footy, and other sports, the best coaches appear to be players who weren’t feted as champions but rather the journeyman/woman types. Ones who, with little natural talent, made the grade thru setbacks and obstacles. Kevin Sheedy comes to mind. Pluto in the 8th is constant reinvention. Razing and constantly raising. I have both Scorpio’s rulers, Mars AND Pluto, opposite in the… Read more »

SMM Member
S

Thank you for the quote. I love the Bombers coach reference too.

My Mercury is Cancer (5th house). Thank you Jokerman for your explanation they resonate with me on a deep level, that I really appreciate.

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

118 comments. 8th house popular much? 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

Because the astro is deep dark subject not given to all to know

HelMM Member
Hel

Takk you Mystic, and discussion below. This has been helpful to read. I am Virgo rising taurus sun, and i have a stellium that covers taurus from 4-29 degrees. Sun Mercury in 9th house Chiron Mars and Venus ( mars Venus same degree) 8th house, Mercury and Chiron in opposition to scorpio 3h Uranus. Sun in very happy aspects to Leo Jupiter, aries moon, and Virgo AC. I feel like i am starting to understand my chart better after reading about both the meaning of a stellium, Chiron and now 8th house. In both the posts and discussions here. In… Read more »

davidlMM Member
davidl

Chiron in Aqua 8th house. Sexual practice can be a powerful healing modality. It has other functions of course, but the way it can be used to heal the body and mind has been lost to most cultures, hidden from view, a little taboo. As individuals we can do nothing more for our health and happiness than to explore our attitudes and behavior around sexual practice, Raise its priority in our daily lives by first disconnecting it from all other priorities. It doesn’t belong in a subset. It’s more like source code. Look at the time spend talking about eating.… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

Oh praise be!!!! A guy who understands that sex is one of the energies on the planet that is source code to some. I am ready for the discussion any time. Agree with all said here.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Sex is a a double edge sword. It can lead one to the ultimate source of bliss or suffering. And while women remain subjugated by the patriarchy and its religions, it will continue to be the major cause of suffering on this planet. (Lilith-Algol in Taurus 8th H)

Jokerman
Jokerman

And not just women.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Bless your cotton socks Joker man?

Jokerman
Jokerman

I only wear cotton, hemp or, in shoes, leather. Venus cj Mars, et al, in Virgo.

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

Venus and Jupiter conjunct un Virgo. I cannot understand why people buy leather items in colors that are not the animal’s original tint.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Yes a good sexual union is a portal to healing, creativity, joy, innocence, nourishment , whatever is needed.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ll report it if l see it.

emgMM Member
emg

Ive seen it smelt it and tasted it. It’s awesome !

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well that’s good. I’ve tried everything inc not trying. It’s as if they’re wearing Cockblock SPF 7,821,673 Rating. All this internal conflict, I’ve given up mass debating myself. I actually am a better than average cunning linguist. Tasmania is a fabulous place. I can’t even stop making fun of myself. Anyway it’s a thing in my chart. Chiron still resonates as the wounded healer and the martyr thing as well. I remembered that my Moon is cj my Psyche. I have empathy, by the truckload, and I’m an innovative cook. I really am a 1, 2, 4, 7 & 8th… Read more »

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

You’re made me cry laughing

Cunning linguist indeed

emgMM Member
emg

I love your SPF cockblock! Hugely funny. I would love to see your HD chart as you sound like a split definition but the gates and channels would be a real blast to know.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Human Definition? What is your recommended site?

emgMM Member
emg

Jovian archive.com

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Sometimes I love being dyslexic. I didn’t read it as “cook”

Jokerman
Jokerman

I am a paid up member of the National Dsylixec Association, the DNA.

I do like to cook up a storm.

emgMM Member
emg

Neither did I !

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w “Well let me tell you something About the Maharishi camp In Rishikesh There were one or two attractive women there But mainly looked like, you know Schoolteachers or something And the whole damn camp Was spying on the ones in the bathing suits And they’re supposed to be meditating And there’s this cowboy there called Tom Who plays cowboys on TV And my, did the Beatle wives go for him in a big way I wondered what it was – It was his tight leather belt His jeans, and his dumb eyes They seemed to love them eyes (What’s… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I didn’t know of this ‘little’ ditty. And it’s relation to “Sexy Sadie”. He had a number of songs that smoked of iron fist / velvet glove.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

And he was Aries rising with an Aqua moon, square Merc in Scorpio. He could see through bullshit and wasn’t shy about speaking up about what was right. A Peace/Justice Warrior.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I knew he was Aqua Moon (my fave pop culture ppl) but Aries Asc l was unaware of that. It’s been so long since I’ve seen his chart. I know he was no full-time saint but I’ve loved his cut thru. He was my first music hero.

skarabMM Member
skarab

I read that the original lyrics to Sexy Sadie went: “Maharishi, you little twat/Who the f*ck do you think you are?/Who the f*ck do you think you are?/Oh, you c*nt.”
This was before George made him put on his velvet gloves. Imagine…

Jokerman
Jokerman

https://youtu.be/2g_xaVNY9P4

When he comes across Dylan is pretty funny too.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Top quality clever/funny !

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks so much Pluto Moon.

I learnt TM when I was a naive 22 year old. I could never go any further because there was a very loud voice in the back shouting : GO NO FURTHER , all about money and sex !

Thanks for the confirmation.

emgMM Member
emg

I also dabbled in TM. I did not get it at all. Nothing happened and I just couldn’t get serious. Not one of mine !

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Oh I got it straight away that’s why I was so conflicted. During my initiatoon meditation I saw the visual of me resting my head on the warm belly of a dove, then it panned out to the dove in full flight. I took to it like a duck to water. I did it for about 12/years. It increased my creativity, synchronicity and good things just manifested. On the dark side it opened up my Pandoras box of abuse and I had no skills or guidance to deal with it. Too young and not ready. Could you imagine if I… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

I can’t meditate. I tried hypnosis and that was such a waste of time, I try the guided meditations and I just sit there waiting for it to be over. I do however do a little bit better with tones and chimes, so vibrations (well that speaks for itself!). So I can stand that for longer and actually find myself going places with that. But as to sitting still and letting go. Not a chance. Can’t take alcohol, don’t do drugs. But I have crashing know things happen out of the blue. So I am built to just have it… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Yes why guild a lily. Other people are so full of shoulds, they project onto you what they think. Not good . Age taught me this.

A few years ago I heard that music is meditation. God it’s something I’ve always loved like dancing.

Anyway TM worked for me.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I did AM but it turns out that smoke, acid, mushies & alcohol all at the same time will do that. (Accidental Meditation)

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

emgMM Member
emg

tee hee. hee hee hee hee

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

Because religion hates sex for some reason LOL. Actually, religion should be teaching us about it, why do they hate sex so much?

skarabMM Member
skarab

It’s all about power & control. Religious leaders know that there is great power & beauty in the mystical union through sex. They just don’t want the plebs to know about it, or empower ourselves through it – or they’d be out of a job, LOL. I mean if one had to choose, who wouldn’t rather spend their mornings celebrating life by making hot beautiful lurve somewhere & connecting to Source bliss – rather than kneeling on a hard pew/floor and listening to some boring & repetitive fart of a man in bad drag rant on about some vengeful god… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

“I mean if one had to choose…”
I’m ROTFLMFAO

Religion fuqed my marriage. Idiots with delusional thinking powers.

skarabMM Member
skarab

I’m sorry to hear that, Jm.
Religion has brought so much misery & suffering to this world.
It does exactly the opposite of what it claims to do.
Power mongers who feed off human frailty.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I stayed as long as I could (my Can/Scorp) but the stupidity I could no longer bear with a sore head (my Uranity).

I loved her very much but I said I’m taking a walk in the snow, don’t come looking for me.
She is happy there and I understand why. I say this without condescension.

Metaphorically, I’m sitting on a polypropylene fold out chair with a parasol looking out at the pervasive whiteness of Lake Eyre. Sipping Nectarine nectar.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Wow … so, so tough… can’t even imagine.
All i can say is that you sound like a fabulous human with a massive heart & that’s why you bring so much joy and compassion to this place. I really hope you find your mermaid Jk. But you ain’t gonna find her in a dry bloody lake, are you?! xxxxxxxxxxx

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

I disagree, I swam in it in flood in 1973…

But I’m no mermaid lol

Jokerman
Jokerman

Currently dry unless there is a pending current from N Qld.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Hear, hear.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Thanks Scrab and PM

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

I’ve had such an awakening that past year or so and religion was one of my themes. One of the many things I started to despise, was the constant feeling of guilt from constantly doing wrong (thoughts, actions, words, etc) and constantly asking for forgiveness over and over many times a day. I’m sick of it, I am sick of the guilt over nothing! I cannot even imagine how many relationships have been torn apart because of this guilt and fear. I am done with oppression.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Good for you, ÁNLEIFR!
Imposing guilt on one is how they tie you to them, it is a degrading form of oppression. You must feel so relieved.
I am truly happy for you. <3

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Enjoy your freedom and your own free will. Prosper.

lindapetersMM Member
lindapeters

Ceres in 8th in Gemini close to Sun/ Moon midpoint. Day. Forceps. Day/Night. Daydream, walk, nightdream. Soy no, and mean it. Ditto, yes. Be prepared to die or start again. Child death/birth is life changing. Prepare for the worst/hope for the best. Keep the best, forget the rest. Yes, all relationships are transactional. All life is interconnected – the web of life – therefore defend boundaries assiduously. A healthy immune system aids survival/transformation to next level. Stagnation is defeat. Get a good night’s sleep.

so_danceMM Member
so_dance

Just a guess but as 8th house peeps are naturally drawn to metaphysics and esoterism, this will resonate with pretty much every Mystic member… we are the 8th community! Who’s wearing their octarine cloak?

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

I had to Google Octarine. My scorpio son invented a colour just like this when he was 3. He called it Chimptee, a pinkish purplish green.

so_danceMM Member
so_dance

Awesome!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

WHO DARES TO SUMMON ME AT THIS HOUR? Jk I was already up. Yeah 8th house. Mine is 24° Libra thru 25° Scorpio. In it is Uranus-Mercury, Mars, & Sun-Venus. My Moon’s in my 7th conjunct Pluto, so it too has a very 8th feel. WITH ME IT’S ALWAYS PERSONAL BB. (Note. Feeling compelled to use caps a lot lately; suspect it has something to do with transiting Jupiter currently aspecting my Jupiter-AC. Do not adjust your sets: these spontaneous outbursts, like astral bodies, are transitory.) Re the personal & the 8th house: it takes two (or more) to tango.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well, I did think of you.
Interesting read

PiMM Member
Pi

*looks up from book* with whom we feel safe.
(mercury in pisces) x

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Yes we can turn shit into GOLD !!!!!!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Hi, Ankh..xo.

skarabMM Member
skarab

This scarabaeus’s sensibility confidently concurs re shit=>gold paradigm
Greetings Ankh, <3 !

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Whom. (Mercury cj Mars in 9th in Virgo, lol.) Yes, we 8th housers have one foot in this realm and one foot (or sometimes the whole rest of us) in other realms. Only other 8th housers understand, it seems. Or maybe 12th peeps.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Ooo, someone called!! “Whom” — your “whoms” are in all the right places…as the other Mercury in Virgos have related. Would you like a diagram? With sigils or not?

birdMM Member
bird

Ah… Yes. Thanks Ankh xxx

MutatisMutandisMM Member
MutatisMutandis

I have sun, pluto, lillth, moon conjunct in the via combusta libra + saturn (chart ruler) and jupiter conjunct (sextiling uranus, other chart ruler) all in the 8th house and the above is Extremely Accurate

edit to add: I had to have a consult with Mystic over a tax bill that was making me crazy, I have a visible tattoo that says ‘we die’ that freaks people out but i find hella comforting, i work in a really high-stress and high-paying job that has a crisis element, etc etc etc the above is SO ACCURATE

lisa guestMM Member
lisa guest

A astro friend of mine told me about my 8th House over a decade ago. It’s a major part of the focus of my chart. My dad died 3/9/18. My mom is 84 and clueless about money. She signed off as trustee 12/6/18. We are waiting for the TRUST to take over my LEO older brother’s risky TDAmeritrade gambling with my folk’s money. A financial elder abuse case was lodged against him last year but Mom denied he was doing anything wrong. Her therapist, an ABUSE specialist LCSW says he’s now being abusive and she’ll have to report it. He… Read more »

Laura
Laura

“As kids, they swarmed straight to the 130s section of their local library: parapsychology, religion, astrology, religion, dream analysis, etc.”

…have you been spying on me??! Sun, Pluto in the 8th, with Pluto in Scorp.

MegsMM Member
Megs

So I guess I qualify, if I’m Pisces rising, and both Jupiter and Neptune (both in Scorpio) are in the 8th. I’d say about 65% of the above applies to me. I am super calm in a crisis, and I’m trying to become more comfortable with discerning various energy. I am emotional about money, but I think most of that has to do with blindly accepting my parent’s feelings about money. I do know that the universe always has my back, and I’ll always be taken care of.

kellieg77MM Member
kellieg77

Ha ha have you been spying on me Mystic??Absolutely SPOT ON!! #loaded8thhouse

JacsterMM Member
Jacster

My 8th house is currently activated by Pluto, Saturn and soon to be joined by Jupiter… I am really feeling all these 8th house themes – and just quietly I am revelling in the anti-fragile reactions I am having to life at the moment… Thanks Mystic for the positive spin !!

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

My 8th is Pisces and Aries – Neptune ruled. I have Chiron conj the house cusp and transiting Neptune on it right now. Psyche at 23 Pisces in my 8th. Chiron is opp my Pluto-Uranus first house conjunction. So I guess it’s all about boundaries? Honestly, I think these Neptune transits are going to finish me off. After Neptune through my 7th house I don’t even feel like a person anymore. I feel like a cloud or something, like what remains of the alien after being vanquished by Dr Who (1970’s version). I just can’t decipher the incoming on any… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Like the Denzel Washington movie, I’ve seen it before. I also am sick of the Outre 3 opposing my natal Outer 3. Partner Wasteland.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Keep up that YOGA you !

RubentMM Member
Rubent

oooofph I feel so much of this resonate, but I only have Lilith (actually the lilith corridor as mine is quite narrow) in the 8th and in Leo. which opposes my sun.. and my south node in virgo is also in the 8th the transactional bit i totally get…but it’s a huge conflict in myself…on the one hand i would love to work this tendancy, to own it, but then that leaves me feeling like i can only ever have casual flings (or if I was more audacious making sex for money work.). The desire is to merge and I… Read more »

SasaMM Member
Sasa

Genius. What an amazing dissection of insight into the 8th House, thank you.
Scorpio Moon in 8th House, here.
Everything rings true. Xxx

HowdyhihiMM Member
Howdyhihi

Haha. Yep. Sun-mercury-south node in the 8th. Definitely right about all of the above, from the 130’s library reading habit as a kid, to the emergency room hustle. The hardest thing about being an 8th house person is living with the innate knowledge that under the thin veneer of normalcy in any given moment there is a seething vortex of primal power, entropy and…well… magic. The veils are exceedingly thin for us. It makes it difficult sometimes in relationships with people who try to manufacture interpersonal intensity be being drama queens. When for us, making coffee or driving to work… Read more »

NothoMM Member
Notho

Bravo! Absolutely perfectly articulated. Well done & appreciated- a comfort to relise that there is someone/others out there….doing it…having it….you know what I mean….

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Yes. Energetic exchanges and intensity, I get this.

Clavdia C
Clavdia C

Well put. The seething. Also I don’t have a ton of patience for ppl who can’t see it or don’t care.

Have the time I want to scream “we are all dying!”

Clavdia C
Clavdia C

*half the time, obv

SomnambulistaMM Member
Somnambulista

This is so me. Virgo Moon and Pluto in the 8th house. I feel the thinnness of the societal veneer waiting in line at the grocery and ponder the strangeness of over-egoed monkeys hurtling themselves in metal tonnage on my drive to work

dark starMM Member
dark star

lit fuse relationships. Growth or bust

Clavdia C
Clavdia C

Yessss

This is so me. Also it usually freaks people out bc I am so intense (8th house Sun Merc Saturn plus very tight Sun sq Pluto). When I think I’m close I tend to sabotage it.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Thanks for this. About to have Pluto cross into my 8th trine my natal Pluto in the third in the next seven days––and holy moly I am feeling it. It’s like something is coming home to me and it’s resonating across a number of levels. I have a Scorpio moon, which incidentally a lot of muggle orientated astro people have often given me grief for over the years. And yet, it is starting to feel comfortable, as though I have this new understanding that is cosmic and other-worldly. I keep seeing things out of the corner of my eye and… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

The way this post is going, it’ll make a century before lunch, and get selected for the upcoming Ashes tour. Phoenix rising.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Fuquing brilliant PF as always. Please bring more cricket analogy to astrology!
I have a vague memory of Greg Chappell having that terrible run in the mid-80s then finishing up with a massive hundred. Wiki says he made 182 in his final innings, which I think I remember. Although it’s prob not a great example of 8th house as he was already at the end of his career by then.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

How about Rick Darling and Graeme Wood opening the batting as the embodiment of Merc retro? (Soz not on topic but as I’m currently in denial about all my transits I’m going for levity and wit – Gem NN)

Jokerman
Jokerman

Those two missed their calling.

And you scored the 100th run!

R Benaud: the lass from the West has been a bit patchy lately. But she has put her head down and got in behind every delivery.

I Chappell: well its what I’ve come to expect from the 7th Hauser. With difficult field placements she has found the gaps with increasing alacrity.

R Benaud: this augers well for an Ashes return especially as the ball moves around in an English summer.

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Joker man

Crows and now Cricket!

Jokerman
Jokerman

I have 17 obsessions. I can do others.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

This is brilliant. Love your work!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ive just dscovered that my Merc is SRx, my 3rd natal planet that is Stationary. I feel Stationary energy very strongly. Esp as Merc SRx squares my SD Jupiter. Something l used to great advantage as a teacher.

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Ooohhh
I had such a crush on Rick Darling when he played Shield cricket for SA

Haven’t thought about that for 45 years!

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Haha he was a good looking boy!

ElizMM Member
Eliz

Mystic i needed this!! i have been trying to understand my mars in the 8th house in cancer and for a long time and often what i read about just confuses me and scares me. One thing i want to ask about this isyou wrote that eighth house people view every relationship as transaction and while i do notice the intensity of power dynamics in relationships and how hard it is for two peole to be vulnerable FOR REAL, I also want believe in true love and want to believe in the possible of a true loving partnership. Can this… Read more »

LibrariusMM Member
Librarius

This resonated for some reason (reading about philosophy/religion/magick since 8 y.o. when I got my library card; keeping a surprisingly cool head in emergencies and grave situations but often being casually useless otherwise etc).
My natal Gemini eighth house distinctly lacks any planet placements but maybe it’s my Scorp-Pluto first house.

RisingWater
RisingWater

Agreed, especially about that early reading. I also have a certain levity in otherwise dark situations (particularly medical ones). Natal Gem and Merc in the 8th, and Scorpio rising.

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

Always been a little nervous about my eight house – the way most astrologers put it, I’m doomed for a violent death at a young age, plus added suffering and incarceration. They’ll also casually add that my $$$ situation will never be solid. Ugh. I have Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pallas in there (always up for a mystery!) as well as a Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto. Uranus rules my chart, and I’m a Libra. Sun is Squaring Uranus and Neptune in Cap (am a lightweight for all sorts of alcohol/substances/medications) and Mars is squaring my Saturn at 0 deg Aquarius.… Read more »

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

Bonus add-on: transiting Pluto currently squaring my natal Sun. It’s a party in my local graveyard!

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

3 in the 8th I have Pluto in Virgo, Venus in Virgo and Uranus in Leo Amazing Meet you in the Dewey 130s… lol Actually had a big non fiction budget when I was Aquisitions Librarian in 100s Dewey area – loved it! Downside The esoteric books were the most highly stolen collection – all my Wicca, Shamanism, I Ching, Runes, Astrology books would either be stolen from the Library ( not checked out) or checked out and never returned! GRRRR You would think they would know about book karma! We had our secret Librarian spells and bindings we cast… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Good to know there are witchy librarians out there casting protection for the reading material.

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Thank you Fire…

I always wanted to go Ninja and knock on their door at 2am and just go and retrieve them!
(With my face covered and my crossbow)
Unfortunately my Manager wouldn’t approve the plan…

Don’t steal books from a Public Library please, someone pays for them initially.

Just because they are free to borrow, they cost money to acquire!

davidlMM Member
davidl

You can discuss it here. I for one love to hear of other people’s adventures in consciousness. Using these portals and doorways shows your intent on raising your awareness and overcoming fear. The current model for these types of explorations (gateways, portals, wom holes, parallel universes ) allow us to remain in our binary character while we explore the oneness, We still see it though as travel to ‘the other’ we are still somehow separate from it, I was taught once, that the ultimate purpose of these journeys is to discover that we are already residing and acting in all… Read more »

GwendolynMM Member
Gwendolyn

Thanks so much David, I have always known about doors, gates, portals, wormholes etc Unfortunately possess all the Clairs And it took until I was 25 to integrate them all into my psyche (stopped the haloperidol lol) Apart from my 8th and 12th stacked houses… I have vocational blood in my male line of “doorkeeping” I sadly never travelled in binary, I knew I existed in all planes, in all space and in all time, concurrently Try telling that to a Shrink After many decades ( sitting in my second Saturn return in Capricorn at the moment) I have finally… Read more »

xMM Member
x

Brilliant! You nailed it!

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

I have Aries in the eighth house. Also, my south node.. thoughts?

Maybe im bulletproof?

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

I have Aries in the eighth house. Also, my south node.. thoughts?

Maybe im bulletproof or, just love talking about taboo?

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Well your magician outfit suits your south node. Do you have any recall of past lives? I’m a Scorpio South node too.

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Not consciously, no. My mum did, clear memory of several.

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

One ting I do know for certain I can tell you, I did NOT want to come back this time.

#resistanceisfutile

RubentMM Member
Rubent

also have south node in 8th, but in virgo. in that liminal space between last life and this one I was adamantly against coming in. ‘ive done the work! c’mon no more i’ve done the work, not again!’

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Resistance was precisely why I was brought back. It actually felt painful and heartbreaking to be pulled from that consciously universal space and I fought escapist behaviour my entire life. I’m much more balanced now of course but I could not be more individualist if I tried. Now learning the process of healthy partnership … if I can find someone to cope with my dark bits, my light bits, my electric super charge and my psychic, well….. we will be winning

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Just realised the synchronicity of last 2 days. I asked the oracle what part of my astro chart I should discover. Pandora it said. Well I have it in Sag in the 6th house. And this morning I was guided to find an acupuncturist. I called someone and she turns out to be a Maori Spiritual Healer. Moon in Scorpio lady. Her history, spiritual skills and spiritual interests are so similar to mine. We had a long chat. So I feel she is the right lady to help open my Pandoras box (blocked memories and move on. 6th house: healer.… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

OMG. My Chiron in Pisces 29 degrees is today. That’s when I was guided to pick up the phone and call this lady.

PURE Synchronicity. Thank you.

libraquarianMM Member
libraquarian

I’m doing something similar. Got a Saturn sq Sun this month so I found a wonderful chiropractor and am working on the bone-foundation, learning that I have to release and strengthen. Hope your acu-witch is amazing!

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

Thanks, good luck with the chiro.

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

Well my ruling planet is in my 8th house… I am a Capricorn Rising I have Saturn in the 8th, along with my North Node and part of Fortune.

LibrariusMM Member
Librarius

Strong stuff! In what ways has it manifested so far?

ÁNLEIFRMM Member
ÁNLEIFR

Librarius, I’m not really sure to be honest. I am new to astrology (the past year) and I am 40 years old, divorced and there are so many transits and things going on all the time I can’t decipher what is affecting at which time. I’ve got Pluto and Saturn transiting my 12th house right now but from what I can gather the North Node is what I am supposed to accomplish and the 8th is about merging/transformation so I am supposed to find someone to merge with sexually and spiritually?