It’s Metaphysical – The Eighth House In Astrology

Astrology Eighth House

The Eighth House in astrology is classically the domain of Sex, Death, the Occult and Other People’s Money. People with prominent eighth houses in their birth chart have experience in these areas that would scramble the synapses of non-Eighth Housers.

They’re Slytherin. They’re armchair metaphysicians. They are psychic through smell. They’re brilliant in a crisis. In an emergency room environment, the Eighth House person will be a towering force of calm strength and positivity, making cheery small talk to lighten unavoidable waiting times and taking care of must-dos. But you cannot rely on them to behave “normally” in a mundane situation. They’re like the sergeant in The Hurt Locker who was super-chill when defusing a bomb under enemy fire but severely anxious in a mall with muzak. They’re comfortable with what the F.B.I. calls “complex terrain.”

They have all-access passes to places others don’t know are in existence. Their boundaries are borders, heavily guarded.

Everyone Misunderstands The Eighth House in Astrology

Classic Eighth house themes include the ‘chosen loss’ of pregnancy terminations, sex and mercenary work (especially with Venus or Mars in the eighth house), super-acute instincts and sensitivity to power dynamics. This lot don’t need seances or mediums. They’ve got other dimensions on the cognitive equivalent of speed dial. Subconsciously or not, they feel all relationships are transactional, and that true merging only ever occurs with Source Vibe/God/Qi. They’re driven obsessives who can succumb to paranoia, but you can bet it will be well-researched paranoia. Their spook skills are exemplary.

People accuse them of being aloof or taciturn, but half their hobbies are taboo topics and the other half are secrets. Their presence and anti-fragility come from things they’ll never tell you about. At least you know they’ll never leak your private information. They don’t care if people think they’re boring or lead a quiet life. Their specialties include pulling off massive makeovers or transforming things. Eighth House people like people, situations, and companies that are in transformation mode. They’re caustic when around stagnant energy; it’s probably a protective mechanism. Complacency brings out their snark.

Stale Energy Stalls Their Hustle

What makes a prominent Eighth house? Generally, the Sun, Moon + a personal planet there but the person’s ruling planet counts three-fold. If it is a stellium in the eighth house, congratulations. You’re supernatural, wealthy via strange means and most of your romances are paranormal. Just joking. People get spooked at the “death” aspect of the Eighth house, but really, it means that Eighth house people can confront the prospect of their mortality with the same pragmatic composure they bring to any end. They know every ending is a beginning somewhere else and that there are two billion galaxies in the universe.

‘Other People’s Money’ is an archaic term that you can understand more easily as resources gained through other people. Eighth House people are not usually attached to status or the perception of being wealthy, but they’re emotional about money, especially shared $$$ in relationships – always a flashpoint, taxation, and debt. Stale energy stalls their hustle. They need to be actively evolving something to earn. The ‘Sex’ factor doesn’t mean that they’re high-libido, sexually driven people. Of course, they can be. But Eighth House people’s high awareness of sex and power dynamics does not necessarily translate into an active sex life.

Occult Means Concealed Or Hidden

The ‘Occult’ that makes up the classic litany of Eighth House concerns is also misapprehended! Many people think “occult” means scheduled esoteric rituals, particularly involving nudity and giant pentagrams.  But the word comes from the Latin “to conceal” and alludes to hidden dimensions that we cannot see. Eighth House people are into learning about the occult the moment they move beyond their early reader books. As kids, they swarmed straight to the 130s section of their local library: parapsychology, religion, astrology, religion, dream analysis, etc.

Eighth House In Astrology Thoughts?

You can see what you’ve got going on in the Eighth house via an Astral DNA birth report OR if an Outer Planet transit is activating it with the Year Ahead Astral Passages.

 

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Derrick Esmond
Derrick Esmond
June 21, 2020 7:10 am

Yeah all this is dead on for sure. I have Venus, Mercury, Mars, and Pluto in 8th house in Libra/Virgo…Virgo Sun and Aquarius rising…I feel like I’ve had a crash course in manipulating energy…I’ve also had very interesting experiences with partners in relationships and have always been put in situations that I have no control over whether that be involving money sex/ relationships although I can see the truth in all my experiences I had no control over my circumstances other than my perspective about it and whether or not I allowed my energy to be drained due to worry… Read more »

klmorgen
klmorgen
June 6, 2020 10:58 am

👋🏻 Sun & Mars in 8th house (Virgo – Aqua Rising) : YUP

my Neptune in 12th House Cap aides this, as does Pluto in Scorpio

Marzmuze
Marzmuze
December 28, 2020 4:58 pm
Reply to  klmorgen

We have a very similar chart! Swap birthdays?

Rebecca
Rebecca
February 10, 2020 1:33 pm

I have my moon, Jupiter (the expander) and Uranus in the 8th house. I am Aries rising so my chart ruler is Mars. Needless to say I have helped a lot of people cross over…mostly relatives on hospice, etc. My life is full of sudden gains and losses. Very intense circumstances. I am intuitive. I tend to attract lots of Scorpios or people with strong Scorpio placements. I also have a stellium in my 10th house in my Sun, Mercury, Venus and Black Moon Lilith.

Belinda Gonzalez
Belinda Gonzalez
December 23, 2019 1:44 pm

Sun Moon Merc Venus Mars Neptune 8th house Scorpio…Havent met 1 person yet that has more in this house than me. Ruler of my chart is Mars and my Sun in Sag is above all the other planets Neptune in Sag too, which I believe saved me from being a lunatic. I was also born on a black moon. My Lilith is also here but in Sag… Jupiter is in my 10th and Pluto in 7th with Uranus SN Cancer NN CAP. Saturn 3rd Chiron Ari 1st. I am a Medium. I study Astrology and practice Tarot, Numerology, Crystallomancy and… Read more »

Savanah Johnsen
Savanah Johnsen
March 25, 2020 1:40 pm

I have my sun, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, Neptune and Uranus all in the 8th house all in Capricorn I just learned this a couple days ago and would love to have you look at my chart

Jeff Logan
Jeff Logan
January 2, 2021 8:08 am

I have six planets in the eight house too.

Jeff Logan
Jeff Logan
January 2, 2021 8:11 am
Reply to  Jeff Logan

in scorpio. The sun, mars, pluto, jupiter and mercury sorry five planets

Celeste
Celeste
October 31, 2019 2:54 am

A lot of this is dead on. Cancer rising moon in 8th house of Aquarius. Have been into Astrology since I was 12.

Jamie
Jamie
October 26, 2019 8:29 am

Sun, Moon, Venus, & Jupiter in 8th Leo. Pluto & South Node in Scorpio

Ehlie
Ehlie
October 26, 2019 3:09 am

I have Aries Sun/Venus/Saturn in the 8H together with Pisces SN which is also in the 8H. I have Pluto conjunct IC and my IC is located at 29 deg. in Scorpio. My Chiron is at 0 deg. in Scorpio. I have Virgo Rising at 0 deg. and it’s conjunct my Virgo Lilith which is at 1 deg. I have Virgo Mars in my ASC too. I have Moon conjunct Neptune in Capricorn in my 5H. My Mercury is at 0 deg. in Taurus in the 9H and is square my Moon and Neptune.

Aaron
Aaron
June 17, 2020 1:03 pm
Reply to  Ehlie

When/where we’re you born lol you’re very similar to me…. I was April 4 1997. Aries sun saturn Venus in 8th house but I’m Leo rising. IC 28 deg Scorpio. Mars conjunct Lilith 1st house Virgo.

Katrina
Katrina
October 3, 2019 3:46 am

I have Cancer Vertex in my 8th house, sagittarius moon and pluto in first, aquarius uranus and neptune in 3rd

Virgo 8th House Stellium
Virgo 8th House Stellium
October 1, 2019 11:33 am

I have Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury in Virgo/8th House. Leo Venus in the 7th. This article was very interesting and I’m learning a little more about stelliums as I go along. But yes, very secretive. Not intentionally (sometimes), but I just don’t like to put everything out there. I smiled when it said, we’re “…brilliant in a crisis. In an emergency room environment…” because I am an Intensive Care Unit (ICU) RN, studying to practice nursing anesthesia. Thanks for the info!!

Mistress of Mirrors
Mistress of Mirrors
September 25, 2019 10:20 pm

I have Mars, Jupiter and Chiron in 8th house and I loved reading this. Yes I NEED People and situations that are morphing, and me myself had kind of a mental breakdown, where I cut contact with all my friends and family and moved abroad to reinvent myself. Then I came back and started from the beginning as 2.0 or More like a whole New person. I classify myself as an extremophilic flower because I thrive and Bloom under extreme conditions but can’t handle everyday life. I’ve been in contact with death and birth a lot for my age and… Read more »

Rose of the Mountain
Rose of the Mountain
August 28, 2019 8:55 pm

I am dating a beautiful deeply spiritual man from India. He got my birth date and did the Vedic Astrology which governs much of Indian matchmaking. He didn’t get back to me and I left it until Monday when i asked him what he found. He was evasive and said nothing good or bad. So I like the Scorpio with eight water signs that I am did some digging. I found an Indian astrologu site and went for it…. and found that we were a terrible match based on the fact that my Saturn in the Eighth house (along with… Read more »

nika
nika
August 29, 2019 4:22 pm

are you sure he is telling you the truth? i believe you may be non-indian, indian men tend to create random stories for not committing to someone their fucked moms won’t approve of. just a thought, woman to woman

Rose of the Mountain
Rose of the Mountain
August 29, 2019 8:49 pm
Reply to  nika

Thank oyu so much for your care much appreciated. No I am pretty sure he is telling the truth. Trusting in the universe with this one!

Lulu
Lulu
August 28, 2019 6:58 am

Female with Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Uranus, Pluto, Lilith, NN, and Psyche in Leo-8th. Neptune in Scorpio-10th. Jup/Sat. conjunct in Cap-1st. Venus in Cancer-7th. In this world but not comfortable about it.

Rebecca
Rebecca
August 23, 2019 6:28 am

My moon, Uranus and Jupiter are all in the 8th house and all in Sag. This hit the nail on the head.

Yann Bradburn
Yann Bradburn
June 16, 2019 4:34 pm

Interesting. Ive a comment about the death aspect you mention above.You state that they ” can confront the prospect of their mortality”.. As a uber 8th person.. Sag ascendant rising Jupiter with 8th house sun mercury Jupiter and Uranus.. does that make me stellium?..anyway.. Im older and wander a little..my life has been exciting is an understatement but the main thing I attribute to my 8th house learning is that I die every 9 years or so and completely remake myself. Im in the start of another adventure now. Im like the cat with 9 lives..Everything is going or has… Read more »

Lucia
Lucia
May 28, 2019 9:45 am

Been experimenting with house systems on and off for some months. Now using whole sign system which puts Taurus stellium in 8th instead of 7th and Sun in 7th instead of 6th. Moon and Pluto in 11th instead of 10th. Neptune/Saturn in 1st instead of 12th. Whole sign is making a whole lot more sense in regard to lived experience. Ceres now in 9th. Food for thought.

julie m.
julie m.
February 28, 2019 5:54 pm

Stellium in the Eight House –Sun in Virgo, Uranus in Leo, Pluto in Virgo, and N. Node in Leo. You can imagine how I was as a child. ps. Pisces moon.

Alex
Alex
February 28, 2019 3:34 pm

Wow! I have my ruling planet Taurus there plus my moon, too! But maybe, when I was little, the people around me, suppressed me because you know we were heavily were into church, no t.v., no radio, no nothing, just studying the Bible all Saturday and going all day on Sundays so, everything was a sin. I was like hostage in my own house, with my own people. I couldn’t have any friends. Nothing. So I didn’t develop my own personality until now, I’m rediscovering myself.

power.prism
power.prism
July 27, 2020 5:26 pm
Reply to  Alex

Both my sun and moon are in the 8th in Taurus. I am going through a rediscovering phase too!

Serena
Serena
February 28, 2019 6:23 am

It all rings true to me. I’ve got the Sun and 4 other planets here.
Reading grimoires and casting spells at 10 yrs old, I was a real baby witch – to the horror of everyone around me. 😀

Nike Vk
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Nike Vk
February 22, 2019 11:37 am

Fuqing screaming inside–8th house north node in Aqua–everything is so on

JupiterRuled
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JupiterRuled
February 12, 2019 8:13 am

With all my Scorp placements (Sun, Moon, Merc, Uranus), in the 12th house no less – I feel like a bonafide 8th house person. … but my 8th contains my NN (Leo) (which is square my Sun). Mars rising in Sag just keeps it on the up-up-up!

I don’t go very far outside my inner circle to broadcast with my physic knowledge or secret desire to be an undertaker/Private Investigator/ Erotic novelist. I feel like this is something I should understand better.

bird
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bird
February 12, 2019 7:10 am

I’m finding this post and the comments very soothing. I don’t have any 8th housers in real life. It’s lonely! Thanks everyone. <3<3<3

A couple of weeks ago I heard about a death doula who runs courses in Byron. Death doula?! I would be SO GREAT at that! I’m in!

amaranthisme
amaranthisme
February 11, 2019 8:07 pm

Me in a hand basket
As always very refreshing to turn the page and roll with the dice.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 11, 2019 7:36 pm

Interesting day and weekend ometaphysically. Not so much about the materialistic but connecting with older people and viewing the cycle of life. Chatted to a lady born in 1945, really with it. She told me her life story., all good. It was interesting. we exchanged numbers. Then ran into my retired Gemini real estate agent. Chatted a long while. When I got home after a few beers I realised he was losing his memory a bit. I felt sad, he was a linch pin to my now stable life. He is an eccentric, spiritual man. We are good friends He… Read more »

lilopinpin
lilopinpin
February 11, 2019 2:59 pm

Wow! Spot on! I have stellium and ruler in 8th. And the cutest thing I did as a 10 year old is waste my families printer ink to print 100 something pages of every demon and angel alphebatically.. since I’m 12 I’ve been asking everyone what their astrological sign is, no clue as to what prompted me to start doing that lol.

Emmett
Emmett
February 11, 2019 10:45 am

Yep thanks – I have both Jupiter and Uranus conjunct in 8th house- it’s always about the 3 Amigos Sex Death & Taxis

maeve
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maeve
February 10, 2019 8:24 pm

Hi Mystic,
Just a quick question, what if you have no planets in the 8th? No sex?? lol lol

South
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South
February 10, 2019 8:58 pm
Reply to  maeve

Or death or money lol

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 11:41 pm
Reply to  maeve

My aqua man has Saturn in his 8th which is aqua and I must say sex is not important to him or has any real deep meaning. It is pump grind and shower!

A'NLEIFR
A'NLEIFR
February 12, 2019 3:16 am
Reply to  emg

I am a man and I have Saturn in the 8th.. but I also have Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Capricorn with a Fire Sun and Fire Moon lol.

emg
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emg
February 12, 2019 9:17 am
Reply to  A'NLEIFR

He has Venus in cappi too !

Hel
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Hel
February 10, 2019 11:49 pm
Reply to  maeve

Look to the sign you have in that house 😉

Skarab
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Skarab
February 11, 2019 2:37 am
Reply to  maeve

If a house is empty, it doesn’t mean that that area of life is non existent to you – it could very well mean that you don’t have complex issues to work out in that area, or that you don’t focus your energies there as much as the houses where your planets are. Empty houses can also be viewed through their ruler as well – so look at the cusp sign and see what its ruler is doing. You could also look at where Scorpio and Pluto lie in your chart. I’ve found that the empty houses in my chart… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
February 10, 2019 12:24 pm

I love a haute 8th houser. Low omg run

Skarab
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Skarab
February 10, 2019 8:03 am

Talking of 8th House flavour, what about Jeff Bezos and his cockfight at dawn with David Pecker (couldn’t make this sh*t up) re the dick-pics? Bezos has Pluto sitting on his Sun right now. I mean, what’s a Pluto transit for the world’s richest man if it doesn’t involve sex, blackmail, politics and power games? And just for the heck of it (and coz i is on a cocktail of opiates), i checked for asteroids Dick and Pecker (#17458 & #1629 respectively). So he’s got Dick on his Neptune – now that was never going to stick. And Saturn lit… Read more »

Skarab
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Skarab
February 10, 2019 8:17 am
Reply to  Skarab

Good grief, my Lilith is tightly flanked by asteroids Dick & Dong …… this explains so MUCH.

Sam
Sam
February 11, 2019 9:52 am
Reply to  Skarab

Remind me to check for these asteroids transiting (or progressed, Lawd) when I have made some questionable decisions.

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
February 10, 2019 12:25 pm
Reply to  Skarab

Im dying. What.?

Chrysalis
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Chrysalis
February 12, 2019 8:51 am
Reply to  Skarab

OMG genius! I have just checked my Dick and Pecker placements. I have Dick on my Jupe in Toro, pinging my grand earth trine and making it seem bigger than it really is. I have Pecker bang on my Gem NN. Transiting Dick is on my Neptune/ IC, which is technically my Dick opposition. Is that a thing?? Transiting Pecker is on my Leo rising. Thank goodness for transiting Gary almost on my Sun-Saturn, bringing some sensible to the table.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 12, 2019 10:30 am
Reply to  Chrysalis

😛 😛 😛
I knew you’d … rise to the occasion.
(And goddess bless Gary – always the rock in any situ.)

bird
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bird
February 13, 2019 9:31 am
Reply to  Skarab

Skarab…LOLOLOLOL!

Chrysalis
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Chrysalis
February 13, 2019 2:06 pm
Reply to  Skarab

Thanks skarab for setting it up, lol – a nice antidote to the heavy merde I’m going through at the mo x

LightningButterfly
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LightningButterfly
February 10, 2019 7:26 am

I’m confused as to whether or not I have a stellium….I have 3 planets in the 8th House (Uranus, Moon & Pluto), but they are not all in the same sign. Uranus is in Libra, the other 2 are in Virgo. I was certainly fascinated by occult stuff by an early age and even “talked to God,” but I didn’t hit the 130 shelf at the library til I was a teenager. Then I introduced all my friends to “Love Signs.” 🙂

FireTryin'
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FireTryin'
February 11, 2019 12:05 am

You can have a stellium by sign and by house. You have a house stellium.

LightningButterfly
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LightningButterfly
February 13, 2019 4:49 am
Reply to  FireTryin'

Thank you! It’s exciting to know this about myself.

Lia
Lia
February 10, 2019 6:56 am

Wow! You really nailed it. I have the sun in Aquarius in the 8th house, and Mercury – I was totally reading about witches and poltergeists when I was little. Still keeping things hidden in the realms of sex and death. Cool!

pennyluisa
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pennyluisa
February 10, 2019 6:15 am

8th in mercury, venus, and lillith all in Aries. Started doing white magic around 8 or 9 and stopped in junior year of high school. I also stated learning tarot and all other things astrology you mentioned at a young age. When I can’t sleep I’ll just read my natal chart and learn more about my aspects ever though I read about it 1000x over. I also love listening to true crime and mystery podcasts. To me life is all about learning and living both good and bad. Its all about that the human psyche and the why. It’s about… Read more »

Jacqueline
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Jacqueline
February 10, 2019 4:15 am

I’m loving this discussion, and learning soooo much. My 8th house is Scorpio, with Mars at 17 degrees and Neptune AND Vesta both at 14 degrees. I’m Aries Rising. It’s only recently (I’m 55) that I realized I’m Mars ruled. (Always thought I was Venus ruled because Libra Sun, also Venus in Libra). Anyhoo, I always thought of Neptune being detrimental to Mars, as in the Warrior God shows up and Neptune gets him drunk on some dreamy elixir of big possibilities. As I’ve grown older, I’m getting more comfortable with being one of what Mystic termed “visionary people with… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 4:41 am
Reply to  Jacqueline

Your face shouts Mars(very strong) with watery spooky charm under a veil of Libran soft beauty.

Don’t waste your energy trying to placate people, its written in your face. At least I think so.

And I’m not hitting on you, I’m female and not gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Jacqueline
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Jacqueline
February 10, 2019 2:13 pm

I didn’t think of it as hitting on me at all.
I was just relishing the lovely compliment. I appreciate it madly. thank you.

LotusFlower
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LotusFlower
February 10, 2019 11:42 pm
Reply to  Jacqueline

That’s the pithiest description of Mars conjunct Neptune I’ve ever read – thank you!

Electro
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Electro
February 9, 2019 11:57 pm

Oooh, I love an eighth house discussion. Scorpio rising with Mars/Lilith and Venus/Jupiter in Gemini, I have twins in my twins. I love Plutonic/Scorpionic/8th housers, it’s something you just get and it can be rough when people misread or misunderstand the intensity. It’s a mode of being and useless to try to muffle or mask. I have Pluto in the 11th so I don’t expect to win any popularity contests but you can be damn sure something ‘on the scene’ will transform. In first grade I was an advanced reader and blew through the curriculum so my teacher gave me… Read more »

FireTryin'
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FireTryin'
February 11, 2019 12:11 am
Reply to  Electro

“it can be rough when people misread or misunderstand the intensity” —heartlanders don’t get the intensity. *I* didn’t get my intensity…as a teen and most of my life until, nearing 50. My best frenemy in high school gave me a book for Christmas our senior year, “The Misjudged Mushroom.” The story of an edible mushroom mistaken for a poisonous one…She told me it was about me. Ha!

Electro
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Electro
February 11, 2019 3:51 am
Reply to  FireTryin'

I get that! You get used to being misjudged after a while then give up and let other people sort it out for themselves. That’s my experience anyway.

FireTryin'
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FireTryin'
February 11, 2019 7:22 am
Reply to  Electro

So it’s confusing when you grow up being gaslighted, raised by narcissist or other fools…once you grow your super power boundaries, it’s all good…for the most part.

Acqualuna
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Acqualuna
February 9, 2019 11:44 pm

Saturn in Pisces eighth houser with magic Pluto giving a boost from the third. Thanks Mystic! I will rethink what I thought was a deficit.
Great comments!

Also, married to a sun (Gemini) mars and Uranus (cancer) eighth houser. He is the ultimate mystic, so fun!

S
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S
February 9, 2019 11:30 pm

Oh my stats this vibes so well. No wonder I worked in Government and could see the power structures at work. My sex life is a topic that’s most misunderstood by conventional interpretations. Private and stealth. With any sings of paranoia based on the running of my trauma interpretation spun through the communication obtained from profiling and understanding primal instincts and humanity.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 2:47 am
Reply to  S

Your humility is most welcome S

S
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S
February 10, 2019 10:15 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

Thank you Jokerman. I’m Pluto in the 8th House after all, that has been a revelation.

S
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S
February 10, 2019 10:18 pm
Reply to  S

With my Sun, Moon and Mercury squaring Pluto.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 11, 2019 9:13 am
Reply to  S

“Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than those who are most content.” (R Zimmerman) S, it’s always more inspiring to learn off others, who have experienced shit, than to hear recommendations from a theoretic understanding. In footy, and other sports, the best coaches appear to be players who weren’t feted as champions but rather the journeyman/woman types. Ones who, with little natural talent, made the grade thru setbacks and obstacles. Kevin Sheedy comes to mind. Pluto in the 8th is constant reinvention. Razing and constantly raising. I have both Scorpio’s rulers, Mars AND Pluto, opposite in the… Read more »

S
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S
February 11, 2019 7:27 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

Thank you for the quote. I love the Bombers coach reference too.

My Mercury is Cancer (5th house). Thank you Jokerman for your explanation they resonate with me on a deep level, that I really appreciate.

Jacqui
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Jacqui
February 9, 2019 10:16 pm

118 comments. 8th house popular much? 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 9, 2019 10:40 pm
Reply to  Jacqui

Because the astro is deep dark subject not given to all to know

Hel
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Hel
February 9, 2019 9:12 pm

Takk you Mystic, and discussion below. This has been helpful to read. I am Virgo rising taurus sun, and i have a stellium that covers taurus from 4-29 degrees. Sun Mercury in 9th house Chiron Mars and Venus ( mars Venus same degree) 8th house, Mercury and Chiron in opposition to scorpio 3h Uranus. Sun in very happy aspects to Leo Jupiter, aries moon, and Virgo AC. I feel like i am starting to understand my chart better after reading about both the meaning of a stellium, Chiron and now 8th house. In both the posts and discussions here. In… Read more »

davidl
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davidl
February 9, 2019 8:15 pm

Chiron in Aqua 8th house. Sexual practice can be a powerful healing modality. It has other functions of course, but the way it can be used to heal the body and mind has been lost to most cultures, hidden from view, a little taboo. As individuals we can do nothing more for our health and happiness than to explore our attitudes and behavior around sexual practice, Raise its priority in our daily lives by first disconnecting it from all other priorities. It doesn’t belong in a subset. It’s more like source code. Look at the time spend talking about eating.… Read more »

emg
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emg
February 9, 2019 8:18 pm
Reply to  davidl

Oh praise be!!!! A guy who understands that sex is one of the energies on the planet that is source code to some. I am ready for the discussion any time. Agree with all said here.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 9, 2019 10:14 pm
Reply to  davidl

Sex is a a double edge sword. It can lead one to the ultimate source of bliss or suffering. And while women remain subjugated by the patriarchy and its religions, it will continue to be the major cause of suffering on this planet. (Lilith-Algol in Taurus 8th H)

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 9, 2019 10:39 pm
Reply to  Skarab

And not just women.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 2:33 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Bless your cotton socks Joker man?

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 2:49 am

I only wear cotton, hemp or, in shoes, leather. Venus cj Mars, et al, in Virgo.

libraquarian
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libraquarian
February 10, 2019 3:03 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Venus and Jupiter conjunct un Virgo. I cannot understand why people buy leather items in colors that are not the animal’s original tint.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 9, 2019 11:37 pm
Reply to  davidl

Yes a good sexual union is a portal to healing, creativity, joy, innocence, nourishment , whatever is needed.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 2:51 am

I’ll report it if l see it.

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 4:08 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Ive seen it smelt it and tasted it. It’s awesome !

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 9:45 am
Reply to  emg

Well that’s good. I’ve tried everything inc not trying. It’s as if they’re wearing Cockblock SPF 7,821,673 Rating. All this internal conflict, I’ve given up mass debating myself. I actually am a better than average cunning linguist. Tasmania is a fabulous place. I can’t even stop making fun of myself. Anyway it’s a thing in my chart. Chiron still resonates as the wounded healer and the martyr thing as well. I remembered that my Moon is cj my Psyche. I have empathy, by the truckload, and I’m an innovative cook. I really am a 1, 2, 4, 7 & 8th… Read more »

South
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South
February 10, 2019 1:41 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

You’re made me cry laughing

Cunning linguist indeed

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 11:47 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

I love your SPF cockblock! Hugely funny. I would love to see your HD chart as you sound like a split definition but the gates and channels would be a real blast to know.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 11, 2019 7:13 am
Reply to  emg

Human Definition? What is your recommended site?

emg
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emg
February 12, 2019 9:19 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Jovian archive.com

WizarDora
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WizarDora
February 11, 2019 8:17 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

Sometimes I love being dyslexic. I didn’t read it as “cook”

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 11, 2019 10:33 pm
Reply to  WizarDora

I am a paid up member of the National Dsylixec Association, the DNA.

I do like to cook up a storm.

emg
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emg
February 12, 2019 9:18 am
Reply to  WizarDora

Neither did I !

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 2:44 am
Reply to  davidl

I didn’t know of this ‘little’ ditty. And it’s relation to “Sexy Sadie”. He had a number of songs that smoked of iron fist / velvet glove.

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon
February 10, 2019 3:38 am
Reply to  Jokerman

And he was Aries rising with an Aqua moon, square Merc in Scorpio. He could see through bullshit and wasn’t shy about speaking up about what was right. A Peace/Justice Warrior.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 6:40 am
Reply to  PlutoMoon

I knew he was Aqua Moon (my fave pop culture ppl) but Aries Asc l was unaware of that. It’s been so long since I’ve seen his chart. I know he was no full-time saint but I’ve loved his cut thru. He was my first music hero.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 10, 2019 4:58 am
Reply to  Jokerman

I read that the original lyrics to Sexy Sadie went: “Maharishi, you little twat/Who the f*ck do you think you are?/Who the f*ck do you think you are?/Oh, you c*nt.”
This was before George made him put on his velvet gloves. Imagine…

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 6:51 am
Reply to  Skarab

When he comes across Dylan is pretty funny too.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 8:54 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Top quality clever/funny !

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 2:48 am
Reply to  davidl

Thanks so much Pluto Moon.

I learnt TM when I was a naive 22 year old. I could never go any further because there was a very loud voice in the back shouting : GO NO FURTHER , all about money and sex !

Thanks for the confirmation.

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 4:11 am

I also dabbled in TM. I did not get it at all. Nothing happened and I just couldn’t get serious. Not one of mine !

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 4:24 am
Reply to  emg

Oh I got it straight away that’s why I was so conflicted. During my initiatoon meditation I saw the visual of me resting my head on the warm belly of a dove, then it panned out to the dove in full flight. I took to it like a duck to water. I did it for about 12/years. It increased my creativity, synchronicity and good things just manifested. On the dark side it opened up my Pandoras box of abuse and I had no skills or guidance to deal with it. Too young and not ready. Could you imagine if I… Read more »

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 11:52 pm

I can’t meditate. I tried hypnosis and that was such a waste of time, I try the guided meditations and I just sit there waiting for it to be over. I do however do a little bit better with tones and chimes, so vibrations (well that speaks for itself!). So I can stand that for longer and actually find myself going places with that. But as to sitting still and letting go. Not a chance. Can’t take alcohol, don’t do drugs. But I have crashing know things happen out of the blue. So I am built to just have it… Read more »

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 11, 2019 1:34 am
Reply to  emg

Yes why guild a lily. Other people are so full of shoulds, they project onto you what they think. Not good . Age taught me this.

A few years ago I heard that music is meditation. God it’s something I’ve always loved like dancing.

Anyway TM worked for me.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 10, 2019 6:45 am
Reply to  emg

I did AM but it turns out that smoke, acid, mushies & alcohol all at the same time will do that. (Accidental Meditation)

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 10, 2019 6:51 am
Reply to  Jokerman

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

emg
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emg
February 10, 2019 11:48 pm

tee hee. hee hee hee hee

A'NLEIFR
A'NLEIFR
February 12, 2019 2:50 am
Reply to  davidl

Because religion hates sex for some reason LOL. Actually, religion should be teaching us about it, why do they hate sex so much?

Skarab
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Skarab
February 12, 2019 4:18 am
Reply to  A'NLEIFR

It’s all about power & control. Religious leaders know that there is great power & beauty in the mystical union through sex. They just don’t want the plebs to know about it, or empower ourselves through it – or they’d be out of a job, LOL. I mean if one had to choose, who wouldn’t rather spend their mornings celebrating life by making hot beautiful lurve somewhere & connecting to Source bliss – rather than kneeling on a hard pew/floor and listening to some boring & repetitive fart of a man in bad drag rant on about some vengeful god… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 12, 2019 4:27 am
Reply to  Skarab

“I mean if one had to choose…”
I’m ROTFLMFAO

Religion fuqed my marriage. Idiots with delusional thinking powers.

Skarab
MM Member
Skarab
February 12, 2019 5:00 am
Reply to  Jokerman

I’m sorry to hear that, Jm.
Religion has brought so much misery & suffering to this world.
It does exactly the opposite of what it claims to do.
Power mongers who feed off human frailty.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 12, 2019 5:20 am
Reply to  Skarab

I stayed as long as I could (my Can/Scorp) but the stupidity I could no longer bear with a sore head (my Uranity).

I loved her very much but I said I’m taking a walk in the snow, don’t come looking for me.
She is happy there and I understand why. I say this without condescension.

Metaphorically, I’m sitting on a polypropylene fold out chair with a parasol looking out at the pervasive whiteness of Lake Eyre. Sipping Nectarine nectar.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 12, 2019 6:31 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Wow … so, so tough… can’t even imagine.
All i can say is that you sound like a fabulous human with a massive heart & that’s why you bring so much joy and compassion to this place. I really hope you find your mermaid Jk. But you ain’t gonna find her in a dry bloody lake, are you?! xxxxxxxxxxx

South
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South
February 12, 2019 10:18 pm
Reply to  Skarab

I disagree, I swam in it in flood in 1973…

But I’m no mermaid lol

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 12, 2019 11:16 pm
Reply to  South

Currently dry unless there is a pending current from N Qld.

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon
February 12, 2019 9:26 am
Reply to  Skarab

Hear, hear.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 12, 2019 10:39 am
Reply to  PlutoMoon

Thanks Scrab and PM

A'NLEIFR
A'NLEIFR
February 13, 2019 3:41 am
Reply to  Skarab

I’ve had such an awakening that past year or so and religion was one of my themes. One of the many things I started to despise, was the constant feeling of guilt from constantly doing wrong (thoughts, actions, words, etc) and constantly asking for forgiveness over and over many times a day. I’m sick of it, I am sick of the guilt over nothing! I cannot even imagine how many relationships have been torn apart because of this guilt and fear. I am done with oppression.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 13, 2019 4:22 am
Reply to  A'NLEIFR

Good for you, ÁNLEIFR!
Imposing guilt on one is how they tie you to them, it is a degrading form of oppression. You must feel so relieved.
I am truly happy for you. <3

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 14, 2019 9:20 am
Reply to  A'NLEIFR

Enjoy your freedom and your own free will. Prosper.

Lucia
Lucia
February 9, 2019 7:40 pm

Ceres in 8th in Gemini close to Sun/ Moon midpoint. Day. Forceps. Day/Night. Daydream, walk, nightdream. Soy no, and mean it. Ditto, yes. Be prepared to die or start again. Child death/birth is life changing. Prepare for the worst/hope for the best. Keep the best, forget the rest. Yes, all relationships are transactional. All life is interconnected – the web of life – therefore defend boundaries assiduously. A healthy immune system aids survival/transformation to next level. Stagnation is defeat. Get a good night’s sleep.

so_dance
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so_dance
February 9, 2019 7:17 pm

Just a guess but as 8th house peeps are naturally drawn to metaphysics and esoterism, this will resonate with pretty much every Mystic member… we are the 8th community! Who’s wearing their octarine cloak?

Jacqui
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Jacqui
February 9, 2019 10:11 pm
Reply to  so_dance

I had to Google Octarine. My scorpio son invented a colour just like this when he was 3. He called it Chimptee, a pinkish purplish green.

so_dance
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so_dance
February 11, 2019 3:38 pm
Reply to  Jacqui

Awesome!

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0
February 9, 2019 5:17 pm

WHO DARES TO SUMMON ME AT THIS HOUR? Jk I was already up. Yeah 8th house. Mine is 24° Libra thru 25° Scorpio. In it is Uranus-Mercury, Mars, & Sun-Venus. My Moon’s in my 7th conjunct Pluto, so it too has a very 8th feel. WITH ME IT’S ALWAYS PERSONAL BB. (Note. Feeling compelled to use caps a lot lately; suspect it has something to do with transiting Jupiter currently aspecting my Jupiter-AC. Do not adjust your sets: these spontaneous outbursts, like astral bodies, are transitory.) Re the personal & the 8th house: it takes two (or more) to tango.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 9, 2019 5:36 pm
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Well, I did think of you.
Interesting read

Sam
Sam
February 9, 2019 10:46 pm
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

*looks up from book* with whom we feel safe.
(mercury in pisces) x

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 9, 2019 11:22 pm
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Yes we can turn shit into GOLD !!!!!!

Electro
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Electro
February 9, 2019 11:36 pm
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Hi, Ankh..xo.

Skarab
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Skarab
February 10, 2019 12:39 am
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

This scarabaeus’s sensibility confidently concurs re shit=>gold paradigm
Greetings Ankh, <3 !

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon
February 10, 2019 1:51 am
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Whom. (Mercury cj Mars in 9th in Virgo, lol.) Yes, we 8th housers have one foot in this realm and one foot (or sometimes the whole rest of us) in other realms. Only other 8th housers understand, it seems. Or maybe 12th peeps.

FireTryin'
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FireTryin'
February 11, 2019 12:27 am
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Ooo, someone called!! “Whom” — your “whoms” are in all the right places…as the other Mercury in Virgos have related. Would you like a diagram? With sigils or not?

bird
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bird
February 12, 2019 7:03 am
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Ah… Yes. Thanks Ankh xxx

MutatisMutandis
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MutatisMutandis
February 9, 2019 5:02 pm

I have sun, pluto, lillth, moon conjunct in the via combusta libra + saturn (chart ruler) and jupiter conjunct (sextiling uranus, other chart ruler) all in the 8th house and the above is Extremely Accurate

edit to add: I had to have a consult with Mystic over a tax bill that was making me crazy, I have a visible tattoo that says ‘we die’ that freaks people out but i find hella comforting, i work in a really high-stress and high-paying job that has a crisis element, etc etc etc the above is SO ACCURATE

lisa guest
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lisa guest
February 9, 2019 5:00 pm

A astro friend of mine told me about my 8th House over a decade ago. It’s a major part of the focus of my chart. My dad died 3/9/18. My mom is 84 and clueless about money. She signed off as trustee 12/6/18. We are waiting for the TRUST to take over my LEO older brother’s risky TDAmeritrade gambling with my folk’s money. A financial elder abuse case was lodged against him last year but Mom denied he was doing anything wrong. Her therapist, an ABUSE specialist LCSW says he’s now being abusive and she’ll have to report it. He… Read more »

Laura
Laura
February 9, 2019 4:55 pm

“As kids, they swarmed straight to the 130s section of their local library: parapsychology, religion, astrology, religion, dream analysis, etc.”

…have you been spying on me??! Sun, Pluto in the 8th, with Pluto in Scorp.

Megs
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Megs
February 9, 2019 4:46 pm

So I guess I qualify, if I’m Pisces rising, and both Jupiter and Neptune (both in Scorpio) are in the 8th. I’d say about 65% of the above applies to me. I am super calm in a crisis, and I’m trying to become more comfortable with discerning various energy. I am emotional about money, but I think most of that has to do with blindly accepting my parent’s feelings about money. I do know that the universe always has my back, and I’ll always be taken care of.

kellieg77
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kellieg77
February 9, 2019 4:37 pm

Ha ha have you been spying on me Mystic??Absolutely SPOT ON!! #loaded8thhouse

Jacster
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Jacster
February 9, 2019 4:09 pm

My 8th house is currently activated by Pluto, Saturn and soon to be joined by Jupiter… I am really feeling all these 8th house themes – and just quietly I am revelling in the anti-fragile reactions I am having to life at the moment… Thanks Mystic for the positive spin !!

Chrysalis
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Chrysalis
February 9, 2019 4:01 pm

My 8th is Pisces and Aries – Neptune ruled. I have Chiron conj the house cusp and transiting Neptune on it right now. Psyche at 23 Pisces in my 8th. Chiron is opp my Pluto-Uranus first house conjunction. So I guess it’s all about boundaries? Honestly, I think these Neptune transits are going to finish me off. After Neptune through my 7th house I don’t even feel like a person anymore. I feel like a cloud or something, like what remains of the alien after being vanquished by Dr Who (1970’s version). I just can’t decipher the incoming on any… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 9, 2019 4:17 pm
Reply to  Chrysalis

Like the Denzel Washington movie, I’ve seen it before. I also am sick of the Outre 3 opposing my natal Outer 3. Partner Wasteland.

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star
February 9, 2019 11:27 pm
Reply to  Chrysalis

Keep up that YOGA you !

rubedo
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rubedo
February 9, 2019 3:14 pm

oooofph I feel so much of this resonate, but I only have Lilith (actually the lilith corridor as mine is quite narrow) in the 8th and in Leo. which opposes my sun.. and my south node in virgo is also in the 8th the transactional bit i totally get…but it’s a huge conflict in myself…on the one hand i would love to work this tendancy, to own it, but then that leaves me feeling like i can only ever have casual flings (or if I was more audacious making sex for money work.). The desire is to merge and I… Read more »

Orchid888
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Orchid888
February 9, 2019 1:37 pm

Genius. What an amazing dissection of insight into the 8th House, thank you.
Scorpio Moon in 8th House, here.
Everything rings true. Xxx

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