Nine Rules For Thriving Through Pluto Transits

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Pluto Transits are real – sometimes too real. Your soul gets woke but you don’t have the leisure to contemplate this development. How come? Because one way or another, you’re locked into an evolutionary, existential Nietzschean power struggle scenario. Turns out self-actualizing doesn’t involve you in the lotus position with a gerbera in your teeth being mindful. It’s more likely to involve lawyers, bloodwork, insomnia, and a well-salted threshold. Still, there are rules for thriving through Pluto Transits. Adherence to them is not compulsory, of course, but it helps.

1—Psychically, Pluto transits feel like the very structure beneath you is trembling. The foundations of your belief system, job, marriage or relationship may not be on such firm ground as you think. Your dreams tend to involve tunnels, dark places, and mining. At a time when your usual reference points are wavering or deceptive, look within for answers. Keep a journal, notably a dream diary. Check in with your wisdom first, before assuming that the solution or assurance you seek is outside of yourself. As Joseph Campbell – Pluto in Gemini trine Ascendant trine Saturn – wrote: The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek.  The word ‘transit’ means a journey, to be going from one place to another. A Pluto transit is a psychological journey and the cave is your subconscious mind. 

2— Consider Bach Flower Walnut Essence. I know that there are loads of different flower essences out there but this one is a time-proven: “For Freedom from limiting influences, making healthy transitions in life, the courage to follow one’s own path and destiny.”  Reishi – the famed supernatural mushroom – is stronger and has many other benefits but is also a fantastic Pluto tonic for a psyche in morph mode. 

3— Anti-Fragile, by Nassim Taleb is the Pluto transit read. You basically assess everything as to whether it is fragile, robust or Anti-Fragile. Robust things, people or relationships can withstand outside shocks but Anti-Fragile anything actually gains from disorder. It’s a totally Pluto concept. Other fantastic books for a Pluto transit include Maya Angelou’s I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings and Mary Karr’s The Liars Club. 

4—Try not to resist change. Collaborating with the Plutonic process makes even difficult changes more desirable but it super-charges beneficial transformations.  If your first response to the thought prompt about (for example) moving house, breaking up with someone or being alcohol-free is along the lines of “I can’t” – examine that thought. In some cases, you’re fine with the all of the changes you’re putting yourself through. Like the Phoenix, you instinctively know when it’s time. But other people in your life can be really out of alignment with your warp-speed evolution. 

5—Do not adopt a victim mentality – even if you are battling your way through adversity, hostility or harsh terrain. Pluto transits make you stronger, always. You may not be enjoying the process but believe that you are building up strength, magic, wisdom and momentum, day after day. 

6—Fortify your borders and personal space against potentially dodgy ‘Lower Pluto’ type people. That is; manipulative, coercive or boundary-trespassing dysfunctional folk. It’s true that Pluto transits often occur in synchrony with such a challenging relationship, as you discover previously unrealized resources. But with certain sorts of people, preventing their access in the first place really is better than the cure. Trust your instincts regarding the energetic dynamic between you. Pluto transits always raise your awareness of Qi and the way others influence it. 

7—Embrace transformation themes. Pluto supports radical physical morphs, often attained via fervent adherence to a self-supporting (as opposed to self-negating) health regime that looks “sensible” to outsiders but is actually soul-driven with existential ferocity. 

8—Accept the solo dimension of your Pluto transit. Some stories are yours alone. You can take yourself off to a therapist or share significant emotional developments with confidantes. But the signature of a Pluto transit is soul-awareness, the distinct sensation of a timeless and immutable force within.

9—Remember the transformation role models in nature. Caterpillars often hesitate when first heading into their chrysalis. They literally back out a few times when going in there. The struggle to break free of the chrysalis when they wake up is what forces blood into their wings so that they can fly. My other favorite transformation metaphor is the Snake – when they are about to shed a skin, they are low in energy and venom. Sloughing off the skin is a painstaking process but they slither out all shiny, fanged up and with more ferocity. So too will you post-Pluto transit. 

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Libra Moon Conjunct Pluto
Libra Moon Conjunct Pluto

I then found a snakeskin of a coral snake while walking this morning (I live in a warm climate). I’ve also been told change is nigh. What changes may come my way, I have no clue (Pluto transit squares my otherwise well-aspected Uranus). I may need to bookmark this page!

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Oh may i share this one? Turns out the man i have been trembling over is… wait astro fiends who know my voice well enough, you might laugh…a triple Aries self confessed pagan!!! Would like to add, he has asked if we can go slow. (Crying with laughter here, because i know in Martian time that could mean wait a delicious week or so.) Also because he said that as Jupiter is newly in Sagittarius. To a Jupiter Sag Rising…oh hello, and i said yes but body just disregards as well as it can. Will it be ok that his… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Taking it slow? As a 1st house Sun I think he means he doesn’t want to stuff it up

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

He says he wants the magic to stay alive. I suppose a higher level Fire Sun knows how to grow a flame, and how to tend a fire.

PiMM Member
Pi

Go slow can also mean that he’s dealing with some things personally (work, emotional matters, whatever) and doesn’t have max bandwidth available for romantic activity. Or maybe someone else on his past demanded moving on their time or fuhget it, and he burnt out. To me it demonstrates self awareness and an ability to tell you what will work for him. If he didn’t give a shit about you he’d probably just disappear rather than give time to adjust and evaluate. All that Saturn probably counts for longevity. I am totally overlying my own experience on your description here mille.… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yes, he is self aware. He knows, in devastatingly simple crystal clarity, what he wants. Without expectations, only observations and in his complete utter bandwidth. i have full reign to be what i am and i find myself having no rules, even breaking my self imposed ones, which were getting old and stultifying. And yes, i am seeing the Saturn patterns in a very new modus operandi, even though my double t-squared Mars (includes Venus) does not feel i do Saturn beautifully. He says he does not do his, either, but he works mine with some kind of shaman like… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I deeply love that my water sign blog mates who know me do respond here. It really means a lot me. I’m super shook by this but it doesn’t make me spun out or diving down suboceanic and staying there. He took me to the ocean today, and forgot to work out my sun sign. Lucky.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Just saw this – will add that Saturn in those aspects (forgetting big pic eg both charts for a moment) is as Pi said, longevity but actually a whole lot more than that – that’s not giving Saturn the cred he’s due and he does demand respect whether he’s open and outward about that in anyone’s experience or not – he may quietly insist. He’s timeless (all time – no time – hell, he made time), he’s tradition, ritual, structure, laws (and do apply that word both conservatively and more broadly eg a household tradition can quickly become the law… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Ah, that is a great take on Saturn, and very interesting to me because i suddenly felt this really positive thing about Saturn’s gifts. Saturn Pisces is not like my Piscean energy, and also i’m 5th house, so a bit more 😀 this, or cheeky.
Thank you for your happy blessings for me xoxoxo That means a lot to me 🙂
I really like your explanation of the shift from Mutable to Cardinal to Fixed, in time. Which is actually quite Piscean thinking about time, with the structures and laws of time that Saturn rules.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Very very happy for you – and I reiterate that you deserve it
Also happy that some resonates – take what’s useful and discard what isn’t.

Ah ok 5th – so yes let’s say playful, inclusive and magical creator for starters…

xox

escapistMM Member
escapist

I love this !

magnoliaMM Member
magnolia

Thank you for a wonderful post Mystic……x

LaFemmaMM Member
LaFemma

I have my moon in Scorpio conjunct Saturn and Pluto at my midheaven, so my whole life is Plutonic, but I’ve had Pluto going through my first house for nearly 8 years and that is another thing. I feel like I keep shedding and shedding and digging and digging and it keeps going. I’ve adopted a darker aesthetic and it feels really good, whereas before I expressed more of my Pisces sun, now I’m into wearing sleek black/navy/leather with no apologies for the lack of color or the sexiness (and my Cap-rising is loving it but it’s Cap with more… Read more »

WizarDoraMM Member
WizarDora

Silly question but how do I know when a pluto transit will affect me?
And how long are they/do they last?

And can I , may I please change my prof.pic.. how tos for the novice *raises hand up xxx

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

There’s lot of stuff around on Pluto both on this site and out in the www but they are long transits and not all identical in duration but do span many years. Cap is from 2008 to 2024. The ‘how’ component is to know your chart and see whether Pluto is aspecting any natal planets and probably focus more on the major aspects eg conjunct, opposition, square or trine initially. If you have any planets in Capricorn you have or will be affected by way of conjunction, any in Cancer then opposition, in Taurus/Virgo then trine and in Aries/Libra then… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Happy Birthday Neil Young.
I still haven’t forgiven him for leaving Pegi.
Nonetheless a Plutocrat of the first order

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

He married Daryl.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yes, I saw that. He’s referred to Pegi in a number of songs. I listen to “Such a Woman”, “Harvest Moon” differently now.

I got all thunk out on last post.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I’m a Neil fan from way back.

I don’t think you can think you way through some things – they have to be felt or unravelled or sat with or invoked to the surface when the mind takes a quick 3 second break lol.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I think my Merc cj Uran wars with my Mars cj Pluto which is part of my 4 Staggered T Sqs.

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Oh dear, is it his birthday? Poor guy. He lost his home yesterday to the wildfire in NoCal.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I saw that.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

That explains the dreams -I’ve had non stop Pluto action either by transit or aspect since I was about 14 – they are always ALWAYS in the dark ( even if they’re “good”), underground, in a dungeon/cellar and always involve threat/struggle/ some sort of problem solving or negotiation… Just once I’d like the standard sex or flying dreams!

Jokerman
Jokerman

““I’ll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours”
I said that”

Actually Bob said that.
(“Talking WW3 Blues”)

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

Haha, pretty sure you wouldn’t want to be in mine ;-p,

Jokerman
Jokerman

I just couldn’t resist a word / phrase association.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

i know 😉

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

And death – since the same age I have had a lot of death around me. Kind of feel like I should have a health warning sticky taped to my forehead

Ms JeminiMM Member
Ms Jemini

I said to my girlfriend yesterday “I’ve lost my identity”. I hope this is me shedding old skin…

Jokerman
Jokerman

The earth was moving when I lost my identity.

birdMM Member
bird

That’s exactly what it felt (feels) like for me. I felt like parts of my ego identity were collapsing and dissolving, and I remember saying to my best friend (through snot bubbles and tears) “I feel like I’m dying…” Said to my husband “I don’t know who I am anymore…” I also felt like I became an uglier woman but actually, I was just seeing all parts of myself with clarity for the first time in my life. The scales dropped away. It’s raw and real. People pleasing be damned! In truth, I’m much kinder and authentic now. You’ll come… Read more »

gogengoMM Member
gogengo

Got Pluto squaring my natal Pluto in Libra until 2020, all of this rings so true –

Ground that once felt so steady now feels uncertain, trying to collaborate with the energy instead of fight it. Here’s to coming out in the end stronger and more resilient!

(I’ve been seeing a bunch of snake references lately too, shedding that skin is hard work)

Jokerman
Jokerman

You should try Pluto opp ya Asc and now applying opp my Sun.
At the same time Nep opp ya 2H Mars Pluto Vesta Venus Stellium
And Uran on ya MC opp ya IC cj Nep.

My life has been fighting 15 rounds, in the three different types of martial arts, simultaneously.
I kid you not when I say I was born on probation.

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

My life is one big Pluto transit. <3 Timely and much appreciated. Thanks, Mystic!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ain’t that the truth

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

Trust rage.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Not sure if this qualifies as a Pluto issue or a Mercury one. I have Pluto transiting my 3rd House of Communications. I swear communicating with others recently has been hellish. People are flakey don’t respond to email/messages at all, or too late. Working with musicians is difficult enough now try booking them. It’s either me having a transhit, or others have extremely poor communication skills, bad manners and are unprofessional. Anyone else experiencing this also especially recently? It’s becoming an extreme problem, it’s rude and wastes my time. I even had a friend schedule a coffee hang date she… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Your coffee date situation sounds a bit wierd, but fwiw my ability to keep or make commitments lately (um, the last 6 years) is in disarray as a result of some combination of cognitive burden and an anxiety thing. I’m wondering if it’s a combination of generation shift, organisation pressure of an increasingly multi-task-ey and fragmented routine for creatives, and other stuff that’s underlying the flakey dynamics of your musicians. Hope things get smoother for you, at any rate.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Yeah, I can be a bit flakey and torn in a million directions too so I understand when f**k-ups happen. What made it worse is that denied she ever contacted me when I had all the plans in a message and in texts. That part was way too much for me to just deal with anymore. I honestly thought is trying to fuq with my mind as some power trip/game? gaslight me? or she’s not sane. I walked away. She only contacts me when she wants a favor and often to meet a musician or a person she thinks is… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Yes that officially off… I’d stay away too, scorp rising.

Leo-Scorp GrrrlMM Member
Leo-Scorp Grrrl

I feel for you. Shit happens. People miscalendar things or over sleep. We are human, but this “friend” should own up, admit the mistake (whatever it was) and apologize. I’ll have to go check the astro. Something similar happened to me years ago. I paid for entry to an event for two of us as a birthday present for my friend. My “friend” flaked an hour before we were to meet. The flakey one played the “confusion card” to try to make it my fault. We talked the day before (when I could have sold the extra ticket.) I would… Read more »

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Sounds really familiar. Strangely enough, after I wrote off this other person who contacted me initially her mutual friend played a similar card. She offered to treat me to an art film for my birthday, a matinee, we arrive an hour after the showtime. She won’t admit she read the time wrong and went into a tirade at the theatre management screaming until he refunded her money. I thought her anger was extreme, then she said, “Where do you want to go now? You’re wasting my damn time with your stupid birthday.” Keep in mind she offered, it wasn’t my… Read more »

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Sounds like meth to me. Block these losers out of your beautiful life, SR. Sorry you’re dealing with these parasites.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I know she suffers from alcoholism and a cocaine habit not sure about meth but you never know! It crossed my mind that’s for sure!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Of course Pluto but you are prob used to it being Scorp Asc.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I cannot escape the Plutonian influence.

LibraLilithMM Member
LibraLilith

From 2011 to now Pluto squared my mid-Libra 1st house Stellium, most intensely from 2014. Same time pretty much Uranus opposed it all. Job changed, moved house, sister emigrated, operation to save my sight, lost my mum, and finally now I’m getting divorced and moving house again. 4 years of that and I’m a completely different woman. Better I think, but it was touch and go at times whether it created a diamond or completely crushed me. All of the above advice is brilliant and luckily stuff I naturally did to survive. Guess being an ‘outer planet’ sort naturally both… Read more »

sooshyMM Member
sooshy

Thank you Mystic 🙂 I go forward fortified.

Crystallised futureMM Member
Crystallised future

Oh shudder! Pluto squaring six planets whilst Saturn was conjunct my moon. It’s like there was before 2005/6, and after. I mourned for that before person for a long time. Item 5 – I wish I’d known that at the time.

Crystallised futureMM Member
Crystallised future

Oh, and I’m not looking forward to early 2020. Saturn will be opposite my moon and then Pluto for most of the year.

VioletfemmeMM Member
Violetfemme

So grateful for this….Thank you. Pluto finishing a square to my 18 Libra sun on to conjunct my Cap moon @ 23 degrees – feeling I want to hide from the world, but don’t have the luxury of that… feeling isolated, but not fit for human consumption, either….vulnerable, raw and no room for comfort or to breathe. Nonetheless, I know this is forging me for the better, but just having such a hard time having faith that the light at the end of the tunnel will reappear … hoping for grace in any form to getting through this.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Then you will have Saturn doing a forensic follow up of the lesson(s) learnt….or not.

VioletfemmeMM Member
Violetfemme

You are so very right … I always believe if you are not learning, then you’re dying.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I know this gutturally. Pluto has been on my Saturn in Cap, my Saturn Dsc and Saturn 2x Return and almost on my Dsc and Martians visit every two years for the past 10. Pleasant? No! Do I want it? No! But I’m a lot less of a LZ now.

LibraLilithMM Member
LibraLilith

Libra stellium at 14-17 degrees here, hang in there, there’s lots to process and yes it is raw but keep moving forward through it.
‘All will be well, all will be well, all manner of things will be well’ and ‘you can’t push the river’ (both things my mum used to say all the time), were my mantras and helped me through xxx

nattyMM Member
natty

Thank you for posting this Mystic!

birdMM Member
bird

I’ve just realised that the last 12 years or so I’ve had Pluto constantly squaring personal planets. Sun, then mercury, then moon. Currently venus. Next up, Chiron. All in my 5th and 6th houses. This post is like a light beaming into my head. Suddenly, I understand. I knew some serious alchemical opportunities were being dished up and I definitely seized them by the balls and have done an excellent, conscious job of evolving, refining, distilling…facing darkness and learning, learning, learning. I’ve been instinctively doing everything on this list. To have it so clearly explained is an invaluable gift. I’m… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Funny you realised you had Pluto squaring PPs.
I was in my early 50s before I realised I was Plutonic. I just knew life was pushing diarrhea uphill with a table fork and bread n butter knife.

birdMM Member
bird

Oh. I also have natal Pluto trine Uranus and Saturn trine Pluto.

Yeah, when I first read this post a gong went off and I’ve re-read about 8 times. It was an exciting revelation when I saw the transits glaring at me from the chart!

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Juicy fodder for your 2019 books MM, when are they due? After the Mercury retrograde ends?

birdMM Member
bird

Mystic! Thank you, thank you. This is so helpful and enlightening!

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Now I know what my Plutonic tattoo will be, a butterfly. Which will also suit my Libra rising!

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

I am Plutonian and going through a trine to my natol Moon (loving it and making the most of it) and Pluto has been in my 5th since – I think – 2012. I love this list I wanna save it on my note.

@Mystic: can I make a request and ask (actually beg) for a 9 tips for Neptune transits post? I am in real need for that.

Crystallised futureMM Member
Crystallised future

I’ll second that MissDee! Neptune is passing through my 8th house and both my 8th and 2nd house are loaded to the hilt!

emgMM Member
emg

Perfect just perfect. Pluto just exited my 10th and into my 11th. Totally went into my psyche re my career and now walking away and now in 11th here I am spreading my wings into. Totally new ground/sea with new circles of people and as far removed from my past as it could be. And I find myself dealing with depth psychology in the new role which I was not expecting !

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

So brilliant and helpful, thank you! Pluto is making its final exact conjunction with my 9th house Cap moon at the end of this week. Crunch crunch.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Ohh we need a club, don’t we. Cap moons who have survived their Pluto transit!

PiMM Member
Pi

WOULD JOIN
coaching. you know.

PiMM Member
Pi

Childhood and Shadow stuff today. Not good :/ . Where is lilith right now?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Ouch. Not good. Or possibly good, eventually. It’s like the great novels. Everyone wants to have read them but nobody wants to currently be reading them. (I have a feeling that was said by someone famous, in a better way obvs).
Lilith at 10 Aqua. Does my Mars in Virgo memory serve correctly that Aqua is your 8th house w your Mars??

PiMM Member
Pi

Thanks. Your mars in virgo is correct. Late aqua though.

jjt4732MM Member
jjt4732

6 years left of Pluto in my 7th. Those times it opposed my ascendanct or hit my sun or Mars were INTENSE…

Jokerman
Jokerman

What? You too?
It’s still to oppse my Sun. Mystic says that’ll be better.

BlancaMM Member
Blanca

Thank you, I needed this. I’m at the end of my first Saturn Return, and during it, i deactivated social media on a whim. Instagram esp is taxing on my emotions, my self-confidence, and my time. Yesterday was six months exactly, and since I have an event to promote, I logged back in to post. I immediately regressed. It felt repulsive to skim through photos of friends eating food, hanging out with other friends, looking their best. It all feels so shallow to me, and at the risk of sounding better than, I feel like I see something very ugly… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

totally with u on this!

LibrariusMM Member
Librarius

I also deactivated all social media (save Goodreads, for legit reasons I won’t go into here) during my first Saturn return (which is still very much going on)! It’s been great. I understand what you mean about social media; what I dislike most about overusing ANY type of info now is, it makes one’s mind kind of fuzzy. It’s the opposite of clarity. As if you’ve been drinking – which should be an apt metaphor as social media has been discovered to be seriously addictive.

BrightbrowneyesMM Member
Brightbrowneyes

Currently on my Saturn return and it’s as if I could write what you just wrote! Totally relating! But I might just check my Pluto right now as well haha

Sweet SanityMM Member
Sweet Sanity

I almost want a Pluto transit after reading this!! Epic

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

10 – GET THERAPY. This is not a judgement upon you; rather a statement about all the putrid crap that Pluto transits tend to dredge up. If there’s any (subconscious) dysfunctional script running in the background of our psyche, a visit from Pluto will bring it to the surface so this can be healed. We all have our shit to work through and unraveling our own internal knots with an in-depth understanding of our own psychological processes/drives is key. 11 – Get comfortable with The Dark. This goes hand-in-hand with #10, but if you get comfortable enough with your own… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

I found human design during my 10th house transit where Pluto opposed my moon and mars. It’s now opposite my sun and soon Jupiter. Therapy or deep uncompromising Astro or design work is an absolute must. I agree.

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

oddly Pluto turned direct on my asteroid Aesculapius, all about healing. Emotionally painful existential fuqqery more like. Clichés galore come to mind, what doesn’t kill you …….

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Hello future self. I think you are looking for this around Pluto South node, Jupiter conj x3 and Pluto Saturn. Love n light ♡ ☆11:11 11/11/2018

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

or 3.3.2022 Mars Venus Pluto

Jokerman
Jokerman

EXACTLY opp my Sun. Right on in fact.

Jokerman
Jokerman

All of these, except three, to various degrees of success.
Where my 7th house moon lives. Its my chart ru….. ah well never mind.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Mystic’s got me as 1st house Mars. I know it’s a really truly late degree, so i had always read it as 2nd. Especially considering how it T squares everything. Including a Mercury Aries. I know it’s not Pluto exactly. But Pluto and Mars hard aspect my Sun, and so does Uranus, Mercury. My Piscean Sun is my only Water, notwithstanding all that 12th house Moon Neptune thing bc in Sagittarius also conjunct Jupiter, and the rising degree Antares. I think Life Itself is a fqng transit and a guru, and i am sort of acolyte of the whole lot… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pluto & Mars and Merc & Uran in hard aspect to the Sun. Two of three Octaves. You are an Outre Planet Person.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

i feel like im in a constant pluto transit!

firecowMM Member
firecow

Omg so true. I have been having the longest pluto transit over my 15 deg Capricorn midheaven. It’s been literally years of career transformation, from the bottom up. I was ready and I went with it, but fuq, what a trip!

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

me too! are we still having it? thought it had ended!

dark starMM Member
dark star

The struggle to break free sends blood through the veins, so poetic. I love that so much. also the point that a lot of the soul knowledge is our own, less a shareable thing.
From my Pluto tinged chart I recommend being proactive and facing your inner demons and continual patterns. Pluto does not tip toe around trying to get your attention for long…

Jokerman
Jokerman

So true

Comet
Comet

Love this

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Love that there were 9 – completion.
Yes – having being fortunate (?) enough or intentionally designed to have Pluto transit all my personal’s this life and an outer/node/DC and anticipating Lilith then MC Saturn and Chiron (will I live long enough!) I am perpetually Pluto in one form or another (add a heavy 8th influence) – sooo… we phoenix on!

Jokerman
Jokerman

9 is the freakiest number.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

What makes you say that J? Well, aside from the obv’s eg experience/perception et al.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Basically all products of 9 upto 90 add to 9. Over 90 but before 3 figures appear (100) they add to 18. Then over a 100 to 180 add to 9 but after 180 add to 200 (189=18, 198=18). In the first 100 all 9s, one 18. Then in 2nd 100, all 9s except two 18s. Then in 3rd 100, all 9s except for three 18s. Increasingly more 18s appear and, decreasingly, fewer 9s appear. Then just before 1,000 a number appears, 999, that adds to 27 and more appear as you go thru the 000s. I think you can… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Oh yes that phenomenom. It’s also a number associated with the elemental and fae realms just to inject something more woo-woo in with the science….perhaps invoked by Millie’s comment below…getting to it..

And whilst on the subject of Pluto (and this applies to all plants) it’s south node is in Cap. Hahahaha……yep.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Its actually more complex than I described. But what is it called?
So what do the other numbers realm over?

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

My brief research didn’t uncover the name. I found one possibility but it turned out to be a dead end and my patience for such things (read – math) wanes quickly tho 6 is reputed to have similar attributes and I think maybe because it works with the 3 – 6 – 9 thing.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ed

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Indeed they do!

NN 18 Can so yep…SN with Pluto on my Moon. Nodes have only moved a couple of degrees side Pluto’s discovery.

My typo (now edited) – fae not far tho they are far from visible mostly.

What is it called? Idk? Read a bit and it is complex right and it lost me but I might give it another shot as I recently wrapped my grey matter around black hole entropy and event horizons so this should be a walk in the park…maybe?

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Oi – and why did you remove Q re planets having nodes? That is what the first half of my reply relates to lol

Jokerman
Jokerman

My phone is glitchy as all get out. I was trying to edit it but it edited too much. It shows letters two seconds after I type em and other crazy stuff. The node question was suppose to remain. I wanna throw the thing in the river. But l should go back to the phone provider. But tyey are idiots, they say it can be fixed but it takes two weeks. In the meantime they say I gotta buy a new phone. How is that fulfilling a warantee I ask. Whats the point of guranteeing something and when it goes… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Yeah I was on my tab last night which is more annoying than the keys for a Mercurial typist in download mode. The edit function sucks tbh. The words lag a bit too.

If you have the stamina I’d hold them to their guarantee but these days 2 weeks without tech is like a lifetime!

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m going Thorsday. Earliest I can go. I know MRx is about to do shadow. Even getting to this page was idiotic. You can’t get pages you want and ones yo don’t need appear. Uuuggghhh

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

I always watch the caterpillars, and usually after they have decimated my herbs overnight. I sometimes catch them eating. And now i just empathise the heq out of their little backward forward thing into the chrysalis. Omg we ALL know that feeling, poor little green marauders. …but they can still reckon with the Mars Gardening style i have. Not their or my fault, so much, just our natures.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

That’s all of us in our own way right…constantly changing shape.

I suppose if I think about it – and spin it a little to the left – I’ve eaten others home grown herbs and done some backward forward dance steps on my way to evolution

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve had Pluto go over Venus, NN, IC cj Nep, Jup, Saturn. The last was best, he smoked my Dsc by laying the best burnout going SD on it. On the very day.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

But I bet he relaid the bitumen after he dug up what was under it…..heck maybe he built you a whole new road? Ok, you may not have asked for it

Yes lots of lessons in a DC Pluto transit. I might shoot left of field and say that important relationships start first with the self so on that axis of 1-7 we’re asked to look at ourselves and adjust the 1st to better experience the 7th and really the only way that can occur is through the mirror of another.

Jokerman
Jokerman

It was 6 weeks after Pluto went SD, (20th Sept, 2013), exact my Dsc. This event led me to this site. (Previously I got an interest in the astro when the stupid head teacher I had started bullying me because her ex was born the same day as me.) In the month Pluto went into Capricorn; no less. There was a pothole for a long time. I have been making big inroads into working the 1/7 axis but I’m also contending with Outer Planet actions on 4/10 and the 2/8. All contain an OP. It’s been lintense learning to find… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Pluto work is slow. I think everyone is not average or put more accurately – much more than one aspect of their life may indicate. I think our soul evolution is bigger than one life and therefore much harder to put into current context at times.Sometimes we have to look farther afield for answers and pretty much always with an outer planet you get insight in retrospect so you may as well sit back and enjoy the ride. The other thing that’s possibly nudging a few things for a few folk or at least those sensitive to node nature is… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

NN will hit my 27° Sun v soon.
I had a situation with 2/8 stuff being talked about. It highlighted a dis ordance between a VRx person and me.

You are a guru of mine.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I think you could count that as active now… so a future you be that vitality, life force, ego expression (which is essential in the human vehicle) is emerging over the next 18 months and I always like to check the last time the nodes were in signs to see if there’s a pattern or a completion. I was getting a bit optimistic thinking Pluto will be in a separating conjunction to lunar soon and goodness knows why my selective memory chose to forget Pluto’s bloody SN is conj my Moon. I have a serious side I can’t shake some… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I gotta do some work. I’ll get back to you with ruminations on this strand.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

My work day’s got to get started too…

JaneyMM Member
Janey

God bless you Mystic. I’m a 18 degree Kataka. Thank you for posting. It’s been a rough 3 years.

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

As a 19 degree Libra I am hearing ya, feeling ya, Janey. It gets raw sometimes. Have my Saturn at 18 degrees Kataka and hell Chiron at 20 Aries, so it’s all the karma, I would say. Sending you love and cottonwool cocoons for those rare resting times x

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