Ask Mystic: Ancestors and Astrology

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Ancestors And Astrology

Mystic,

I have been wondering about this question for a while now and you touched on it a bit in regards to your “Cornwall” ancestry. What role does ancestry, genetics and hereditary play in our cosmic makeup? If I am a rising this or a rising that, doesn’t that trump any type of genetic inheritance? If one believes in past lives,  does ancestry not matter or are our past lives always in the same genetic line?

I used to be insanely addicted to my ancestry, genetic makeup and heritage along with ancient civilizations and tribes and how my own Y-DNA might have progressed from them. My own Y-DNA is Norwegian by way of England (Devon), and before Norway who knows. Long story, could be related to pre-Slavic, Iranian tribes. 

Anyway, I was into all of this before I got into astrology and now I am wondering if it even matters anymore because of our cosmic ties. What are your thoughts?

Thank you,

Joey     

Soul Pods

This is such an interesting question. I feel as if the Nodes shifting into Cancer/Capricorn later this year, along with Saturn already in Capricorn, will be a resurgence in ancestor spirits.

Astrologically, look to your South Node for a sense of previous existences. People with the same Nodes as you are your Soul Pod, for sure. Certain astrological themes recur in families. Runs of Scorpios. Whole clans where everyone has Venus square Saturn. Big-time Jupiter-Pluto Vibe in your dynasties such as the Kennedy family.  Whole bloodlines where everyone has Mercury Rising, whatever.

But ultimately, the past and its lands are lost to us except for in our dreams, during meditation and random psychic flashes. This is the realm of Neptune, shamans, mediums and poets. I did my DNA and compared it with my birth chart cast over the globe. Not a single Sun, Moon or planet line ran through Cornwall. Or from anywhere else my DNA was apparently tied to. And of course, our soul is not determined by gender, race or genetics.  There is probably a strand of DNA linked to ancestral memories. If we can inherit traits like skill with languages or green eyes, surely we can inherit memories?

But i do not believe that our soul that reincarnates through lives is tied to something so simple as gender or skin hue, let alone religious beliefs. I’ve been vegan for years and vegetarian since the age of 5. I doubt many of my ancestors were and my blood type (the primal-killing-neanderthal one) certainly does not suggest it. It’s just me but i feel it in my soul.

Moon Gazing In Other Times

Though i think that if you’re magic or you’re witch-affiliated, that carries on through lives. Deep in your psyche and presumably within the double helix matrix of the DNA, encoded in, is a memory of Moon Gazing in other times, the smell and feel of the ocean, certain scents on the breeze beneath the stars. A recollection of having studied – say – astrology or medicine – before. The first time i ever looked at a birth chart, at the age of 11 or something, i felt relief at seeing one again. Only of course, it was not “again.” Once I met a mercenary who said he always knew that was his path, life after life. He would not be someone anyone would describe as “spiritual.”

Fortunately, for my Mars in Virgo, i don’t have the time to geek out on Ancestry DNA but i can see how it becomes engrossing. What i do know for sure is that reliably, people with strong Sun, Moon or inner personal planet links to your Nodes are important, always. The conjunctions to the North Node are usually more constructive than the South Node connections that tug into such a poignant familiarity.

Thoughts?

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ÁNLEIFR
ÁNLEIFR

Mystic that is interesting anout family and common placements. My son is a Leo, my moon is Leo, my sister is a Leo, my dad is a Leo, my dads mom is a Leo, my moms mom is a Leo. Thats 2 grandmothers, a dad, a sister and a son that are all sun Leo’s plus I have a Leo moon.

ÁNLEIFR
ÁNLEIFR

I wanted to post this, not sure if this post exactly fits but, he talks about creation and nature and consciousness. This is amazing, it is George Harrison and talks about our physical being and very deep astro type stuff, very very good seriously. Most of his mindset comes from India..

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

Love and adore George Harrison. Have a photo of him in my living room, framed like he’s a relative, lol. Spiritual guru. He was definitely a gardener, in both material (actual plants) and spiritual ways. <3 Hari om.

ÁNLEIFR
ÁNLEIFR

This interveiw was the best! He was so spirtual!

Hellcat
Hellcat

Literally sending in my ancestry dna test today <3

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

I’ve always wanted to visit places where the leylines in Britain are strong… been to Stone Henge but keen to go to the Chalice Well and pagan sites and springs and burial mounds (barrows). The white horse etc. etc.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Loved visiting sacred spaces like the rainbow waterfall near Cape Otway (I felt it was an Aboriginal sacred place)

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I really have no clue about this sort of stuff, but I have had some intense dreams that seems to hint at other times or civilisations.

Redsonya
Redsonya

I am friends with a group of women that I have known since I was 13. We are all completely different and all went our own ways from age 20 to about 35. We all came back together when I went through serious crisis about 10 years ago. We think we are some sort of an old witch coven reincarnated:)

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Wow! I’ve got to start a coven asap… hang on maybe I already have, I had a couple of friends who are quite witchy:D

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

Anybody here do Akashic readings? I hit a wall when I try to astrally explore what my past lives may have been. I get feelings, inklings, but mostly it’s darkness and it remains unknown to me. Anything I come up with feels like only a guess. Maybe I’ve got it blocked… and maybe for a good reason. To me it’s kind of like trying to find out when and how you will die. Might be best to just not know and carry on.

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

I have experienced a visceral sense of belonging, though, when I’ve visited certain cities. Like just a knowing that I belonged there, that it was eerily familiar and a sense of being home and that if I left I would regret it and always need to find a way back. Paris and Prague both did this to me. Yes, they are both ancient cities. Yes, they are both widely covered in photos, movies, etc. But this was a spiritual resonance beyond that. I knew the cobblestones. I felt spirits. Or memories trying to bubble up. Or fantasies, who knows. I… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

I definitely have Cornish ancestors from St Austell and Scottish and Prussian (from family history) but don’t know much about Akashic readings. Once I saw a clairvoyant who said I was a Roman soldier in a past life, I have a vague memory of eating weevilly porridge and met another person who said they also had a memory of being in the Roman legion. It seems crazy but I believe that. I also love plants, trees and herbs and lean towards Paganism. Have never believed in God, only goddesses.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

I’ve always been fascinated with anything to do with ancient Egypt and Byzantium. The artifacts speak to me.

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

I’m a lifelong natural pagan as well, though I was raised in a non-strict Christian home. It was a while before I could shake off the mantle of religion though, lots of guilt in doing that but it felt authentic. Not that I was ever “religious” – I stopped going to church around age 13, which coincidentally is the age I started studying astrology. 😉 But yeah, like you I’ve always been drawn to nature, plants and animals, spirits, astro, gems, healing, aromatherapy, herbs and the like. I feel like there’s been a witch inside me my whole life trying… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

lol. I was visiting a friend years ago and he goes to church but isn’t overly religious. I wen to the service with him and his kids, then he said do you want to meet the pastor? I said I’d introduce myself as a pagan witch, and he said, best not to meet him then… Lol

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

LOL awesome 🙂

SoVeryGemini
SoVeryGemini

My girl does readings, distance and in person. She is the real deal. http://akashicknowingschoolofwisdom.com/business-directory/2258/dawn-marian/

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

Cool, I will check it out. Thanks! 🙂

Ariel
Ariel

For ancestry & a sense of ‘what went before’, look to outer planets conjunct the IC. I have Pluto conjunct mine & my personal story with it is heavy. Since I read about that Pluto, I have always known that my family story was shrouded in darkness, mystery and brutal secrets & power struggles. We are only discovering much of it now, but it’s a gamechanger. My sister & my mother have their Suns on my south node; we have evidently known each other before <3 I’ve only loved men whose Sun or Venus conjuncted my north node. We had… Read more »

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

I have Chiron on my IC… with Pluto opposite. Eek.

emg
emg

My IC has Venus mars moon !

emg
emg

In Gemini. Flirt for Britain.

Jokerman
Jokerman

My IC is cj Scorp Neptune.

Calli G
Calli G

Looking at Astroclick travel, I have my Uranus line going through where Dad’s family was from and Neptune going through where Mom’s family was from. Meaningful? Who knows. Kinda cool, though.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I find this subject so interesting. I’ve never had the remotest flash of past life anything, and to be honest I have a hard enough time dealing with this present one to grasp the concept that I may have been here before! Although, my ex-hub’s SN was exact on my Pisces sun stellium and when we finally split it felt like lifetimes of journeys had finally finished. It felt absolutely, cosmically final. (Perhaps everyone who gets divorced feels like that). Certainly the lovers with whom I’ve had NN connections have been seismic in their effect on my life. My great-grandmother… Read more »

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

My German Grandfather – Uranian Astrologer, had a ‘knowledge’ that the grandparents usually returned (via reincarnation) to the grandchild. It helped if the grandparent died while the grandchild was young, and that there was some degree of ‘important’ connection between them. Otto, the German Grandfather, had an experience during WW2. He was sent to the battlefield as a medic (he was also a biochemist and operated his own Veterinary medicine practice). He didn’t want to go to the war. However, as he lay wounded on a battlefield, surrounded by dead bodies, he claims (in one of his many folders of… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

What a read.
I have no connection to my alleged mother or idiot father. I don’t speak to them. My sis speaks to her father only. All six of us don’t speak to our mother. The first three of us have Cancer Asc; gff. I do know l have Yorkshire and Prussian and that is of more interest to me.

I’d like to know more about past lives but my fixed/cardinal nature struggles with this understanding. Like everybody can’t be Bodicea, Magellan, Nostradamus or Joan of Arc.

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

Of course – everyone wants to be Cleopatra, usually to fill some sense of insecurity about their importance. Everyone is important, most don’t know why, because our values have been screwed up and society now equates importance with dollars or power, or possessions. You’ve clearly got blocks there, I wouldn’t attribute it to your fixed cardinal nature, because that is not owning your response-ability. Perhaps there is more to unravel for you emotionally and with your experiences, before getting to the energetic reality of our world. I feel past lives help people to understand their life now. I don’t really… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve tried a number of times to connect with em but they shit on me. All 5 boys have no contact with em. My sis, only, talks to the father. I am adjusted to this as the treatment started very young. The dumb thing is I’ve expected that they may change in their senior years…but no nothing. I became a good parent as part of my rebellion; ha ha.

Past lives is unusual to comprehend. I have 6° Lib NN sq Kat Asc, l spose it’s a G Cross

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

It’s hard. You don’t have to connect with them, just clear your anger or whatever directed toward them. You do’nt have to be like them. You can be different and you can own your actions and choices. You are not their victim.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Wow! I have a Prussian great grandfather called Henry Lydeker, who was known as ‘the Hellraiser from Hurdle Creek’! so cool

Jokerman
Jokerman

I dunno much about him. My Cancer Asc bro has done a family tree. The lineage came in the German / Prussian Lutheran diaspora to SA. Fierget and Lehmann are some of the names. Mt maternal grossmutti was interred on Garden Is. (Pt Adelaide). Her crime? She could only speak German. German finally stopped being spoken in rural SA with the advent of radio/tv.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

wow. there were so many germann immigrants — leading to wineries such as Lindemans etc. But understandable the suspicion of germans after WWII. Sadly

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

and that german town, the name escapes me now (in SA)

Jokerman
Jokerman

There many, many towns in SA that have been Anglicized. Birdwood was once Blumberg. Some have been changed to English and a couple to French; Verdun for example. Hahandorf is the popular (read kitsch) one you may have been thinking of, even Adelaide is named after a German Queen.

Jokerman
Jokerman

*Hahndorf* which was Anglicized to Ambleside!!!

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

This is awesome. Do you have these types of visions in a dream state or near-sleeping liminal space? Or do you have them in normal waking consciousness? Fascinating.

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

I’m usually fairly awake, or in a form of meditative state. I try to do ‘walking meditation’ as a life path. The Past-life-mergence experience with my Dad, I was doing the dishes by hand. Water is a conduit, and I often have great connection when in the shower or bath. On this day, it was the mundane dishes. I remember looking down at my hands, the soap bubbles on them, I looked up, and around a little and super imposed over the ‘existing reality’ was a previous reality, not related to that geographic area. My kitchen was transformed into a… Read more »

PlutoMoon
PlutoMoon

Awesome. You are a clairvoyant. You may be interested in this site if you are not already familiar: https://www.annasayce.com/. She teaches people how to harness their psychic gifts. I get messages mostly in dream work but in meditation too, which is similar to dreaming as you know. I am more clairaudient and claircognizant, though I do work in images as well, it’s just not primary for me. I love this site/forum, so awesome to find people to talk openly about shit like this! Thanks Mystic! <3

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

Cool. thanks for the site link. I think I’m a multiple ability. I spent most of my childhood talking to my dead grandfather. I still get messages that I hear. I often get pictures too. Mostly it’s just a knowing, and after so many years having learned to act on and trust that instict, even if it seems completely out of place. I wish I had listened to it a few years ago when I met my last boyfriend. All alarm bells going off, although I couldn’t place it anywhere. I put it down to past hurts, and said that… Read more »

dizzarina
dizzarina

I love this whole post. Thank you for sharing it.

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

My pleasure.

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Wow. You are such a fascinating person. I wish I could meet you over tea and scones and just listen to you talk. I have so many questions!

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

I’m open to high tea sometime! I have an interview I’m putting up on my site soon. I’m being interviewed for my book, which is my conversations with a renowned psychic energy healer. I’ll try to remember to post it back here. 😉

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Looking forward to reading it!

emg
emg

Our DNA is obviously everything about us. We have taken it from others and jumbled it up to make a unique individual. But that means that the physical body we walk about in meets the neutrino ocean of the universe and our solar system in its uniqueness and find its own reality there. We are born into this ocean and we see it only through our eyes but there must be some interplay with those that came before or infact, us before? Just in a new suit? It is one of those thoughts that has my head spinning.

Jacqui
Jacqui

My nodes- South in Scorp and 10th nestled against Neptune and North is in Taurus and 4th snuggled up against a stellium of Ceres Juno Mars Mercury and the Sun (sextile Saturn). So the future is I assume Home/family ba$ed and the past a dreamy career? Does anyone else see something? Past lives? I was really sick at 2 1/2 with measles and was deliriously talking about who I was before, my mother encouraged me to talk but my father said stop encouraging this crazy babble. I also have this weird urge to do a drum roll with clenched fists… Read more »

emg
emg

Please tell what your mother heard you say in your pyrexia? My nodes are the same Scorpio and Taurus and I know for sure I was a high level concubine come into empress type stuff. Neptune sits on my SN which is the 8th

emg
emg

Oh I also know that I killed my first husband. In a previous life you understand. He got his own back this time!!!!!

Jacqui
Jacqui

discovered a real connection with Athena when I was in Greece and Mercury was on my Pallas. I looked at the acropolis and was sad to see so much missing but glad the female forms still stood near Poseidon’s/Athena temple. And the Palace of Knossos and it Museum blew my mind. Corfu was special too

Jacqui
Jacqui

Seriously 21.4.18 was a big day for my transit chart. Nep on Natal Pars fort, Jupiter on N Neptune, South Node on Asc (exact) Venus on N Sun/North node, Juno between conjunct Chiron & Saturn, Mars and Lilith conjunct near Pluto. I didn’t feel esp but very very comfortable. When I went swimming at Katakolon I thought I am home.

Jacqui
Jacqui

And… (sorry) Algol is conjunct natal north node…

WaterGem
WaterGem

Our birthdays are close J and my NN also conj Algol.I went to Greece for my 50th. And the day Merc conj Algol I swam in the baths a legit & well org tourist thing at Hierapolis having a very special day. Just as I got out of the water I cut my foot on the ancient pillar of Apollo that was in the water. It bled and hurt and a Greek doctor tended it. And I knew I had paid back some ancient debt.

WaterGem
WaterGem

So – I mean Turkey. 🙂

Jacqui
Jacqui

I had my wallet stolen in Marselles I must have owed someone $500

WaterGem
WaterGem

Hopefully- now they owe you next tme!

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

So cool. Artemis and Isis are my favourite goddesses. But traveling in Greece was so spiritual. I love Dephi and the Oracle. And Pompeii, and the pantheon in Rome, and acropolis in Athens.

Virgonator
Virgonator

I think of the top several chakras as coming with us through lives, and the bottom several coming with this body (and bringing DNA with them). And our astrology, as well as our body/heritage are “chosen” by our soul to help us in this lifetime.

So I think it’s all important, at least potentially.

emg
emg

That is an interesting take on it.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Ouch.

Apparently i’m top heavy, when psychically read.

The astro chart is in the bod, i guess. “Chosen” might be true but you have to wonder how many made those choices, if you put it in ancestral context. There’s spiritual layers of ancestry not necessarily immediately connected to biological ancestry. I don’t see it as choice as much as some kind of magnet.

firecloud
firecloud

I have at least one memory which I know is not my own. It was, I thought, from when I was a toddler (I have memories since the crib) and I mentioned it to my mother once and she told me that the place I remembered had been gone since before I was even born, it was torn down when she was a child actually. So there’s that. I also have spent a good deal of time comparing my families natal charts recently and found specific aspects which I share with my siblings (not all three of us share the… Read more »

dizzarina
dizzarina

Yes, family astrology is fascinating.

I just today looked at my brothers’ charts and realized, thunderstruck, that not only do we share an ascendant sign– we actually share the degree. Our Asc/Dsc lines are exact! I got chills…

LaFemma
LaFemma

My sister’s ascendent matches my descendent perfectly (1 Cancer) so our charts line up via those (flipped) angles too, it freaked me out the first time I saw it, like wow we are family!

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