My Mars In Virgo Nightmare Or A Novel For The Pluto In Aquarius Era?

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Mars in Virgo

This menstrual hygiene display stand in a supermarket is my Mars in Virgo nightmare writ large. With garish lighting and synthetic scent-surround to boot. “Do Everything – Feel Nothing.”

Second only to Mars in Capricorn in the potential workaholic stakes, Mars in Virgo can easily deploy the “doing everything” goal to shut down feelings. But “nothing”?  That’s huge.

This makes me want to flee to the forest and use moss for all of my requirements. Like Daryl Hannah in Clan of the Cave Bear. Instead of Wi-Fi, i will message with the Matrix of the Trees.

But seriously, the ad exec who created the Do Everything – Feel Nothing slogan is Zeitgeist Tripping. This is way beyond the old-style tight-white jeans 24-7, horse-riding and water-skiing aspirations of Western menstrual hygiene. Those women may have bled blue ink but they were depicted as laughing. They definitely had feelings.

Of course the surreal, advertiser-friendly version of the Handmaid’s Tale would begin via something compulsory. A monthly obligation to the human race, if you count fertility as essential.  One that women had to pay for, be taxed on and get pesticided by for their troubles  What better way to begin the subtle conditioning?  What would the commensurate message for the males be?

A Novel For The Pluto In Aquarius Era

Could this be a novel for the Pluto in Aquarius era? We could crowd-write it now, ready for mass and super relevant release in 2024.  Do Everything – Feel Nothing  would be the eerie mantra from the mysterious leader, subliminally underscoring more than just the muzak in the supermarket. It would be the underlay in everything featuring a female. From childbirth advice, to pornography and cosmetics tutorials or ‘stay married’ advice.

With automation and robots making the “do” bit more simple, our every consumer need would be anticipated by ad-spy metrics. But feelings, like representative democracy, would be a luxury.

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LineP

Im just here cuz my Mars is in Virgo

Stawr
Stawr

“Do everything, feel nothing.” When I try to do everything I wouldn’t say I feel nothing. I feel more like…bat sh!t mental. Mars in Virgos don’t feel this way when they try to do everything? Is it even trying for them? My Virgo Mars bf seems to expect me to do everything, and that makes this Aqua mars bat shit crazy! We are dog sitting he forgot his toothbrush asked to borrow mine, complained how dirty my toothbrush looks. I spared him since I haven’t had my coffee yet, and knew how ugly it could get. Once the moon shifted… Read more »

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

More Do Everything Feel EVERYTHING – Sun conj Pluto in Virgo + Moon conj Neptune in Scorpio

Jokerman
Jokerman

You are very Outre Planet

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Back in my copywriting days, P&G was my main client and I worked on Tampax. WORST ASSIGNMENT EVER. You are basically the P&G person’s little servant and have to do exactly what they tell you to do. There was no creative freedom whatsoever. Ask anyone who works in advertising – P&G is the bread and butter client. You take shit from them coz they pay you. But the work is always soul-destroying and utterly shitty. Ugh.

gogengo
gogengo

My Mars in Virgo placement makes “do everything feel nothing” sound like a personal mantra : i.e I can do this well already

I’m kind of grossed out by how much it appeals to me to be like this.

Invicta
Invicta

Mars in Virgo here.
Do everything, feel nothing.
Check.
Spooky genius post.
Crowd writing the novel is an epic idea and so Uranius in Taurus.

Jokerman
Jokerman

How many Mars Virgo ppl on here? Must be stacks. I should make a list!!!!
We could collate and order em according to strength of conjunctions, trines, squares, etc. (Ok, l give up.)

baristagem
baristagem

Sounds fun!

Here’s the list so far:
MM
Invicta
Me (Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo 6th)

Who else!?!

sphinx
sphinx

Sphinx at 0 deg/3

baristagem
baristagem

I just realised I forgot to add you!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Chrysalis; l think.

I got it conjunct Mars in Xact trine to Sat in Cap

Jokerman
Jokerman

And in Earth houses to boot.

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Me too.

Mars (& Jupiter, Saturn, IC, North Node and Lilith) in Virgo.

Heh.

Jokerman
Jokerman

6 on this thread, so far, and 2 others on this topic. Ya not very Mars in Virgo if ya don’t add to the list, ha ha ha.

dizzarina
dizzarina

I am so jealous of you all! My Mars in Sag (in the 5th no less) makes it hard to get things done– look, a squirrel!

Veronica
Veronica

Me too Mars in Virgo conjunct pluto and uranus
MM and Chrysalis born a few weeks before me

There are several of us here with that particular conjunction in the wood snake year (Chinese astro)

Veronica
Veronica

Me too mars in virgo, conjunct pluto and uranus.

There are a few of us here with that conjunction, MM and Chrysalis born a few weeks before me (wood snakes in Chinese astro)

Veronica
Veronica

oops sorry this came up twice!!

Jokerman
Jokerman

You’re the 9th.

dizzarina
dizzarina

Hi, Invicta!

sphinx
sphinx

The Clan Books were so much fun, I loved her interpretation of the Neanderthal people. It intuitively feels a real possibility they were telepathic and bonded to nature in a way sapiens are not, archaeologists keep finding evidence they are more sophisticated than thought anyway. My Mars in Virgo must be aspected wrong as I am quite able to stop and relax. Or at least I am easily fatigued from not eating the zero carb, sugar, diary diet I ought to. Lists are ok but I am not currently writing one. Though I did buy the Self Authoring Suite and… Read more »

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Those books were so amazing. I cried in every single one. Ayla and Jondalar forever! I am going to France this year and really hoping to visit Lascaux and the vicinity.

skarab
skarab

LOVE these books too and have paid homage by going on road trips to some of the sites.
If you want to geek out check out this site before you go:

http://www.donsmaps.com/indexmaps.html

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Superb! Thank you.

sphinx
sphinx

Omg, this is so awesome Skarab, thank you for posting! We might be taking our little fam (if we can manage it) to visit my husband’s family who live in the South of France. Separately I had also been contemplating reading my 9 year old Kataka the Clan books (but omitting all the sexy times, I don’t know if that is even possible, lol!) This comment makes me think I could try reading bits of it to him to get him interested in the region, then visiting them, I would have loved that as a kid. Stories bring the landscape… Read more »

dizzarina
dizzarina

Loved those books– read the first three at a formative age, helped establish my world view.

And yes to your last paragraph!

sphinx
sphinx

I read it when I was post my early teen St.Theresa-of-Avila, mystic-christian phase and it was like an initiation into sensuality and intuition! What I find really weird is that Jean M Auel herself has, what I find, a kind of a typically cool chart.
To me Ayla was like an uber Leo personality, but Jean’s Astro is all Capricorn Venus, Moon, NN, Neptune/Asc in Virgo and Sun/Merc in Aquarius. So interesting. And no history loving Cancer but Pluto (though that is trine her Mars & IC)??

skarab
skarab

Bizarrely, i’ve had a thing for Neanderthals since seeing replicas in a museum as a kid. Was never convinced what they taught us in school about them. Then i read Auel’s books & thought A-Haa! Now there’s been all this modern research & it confirms that they were a sophisticated people. One bit of news that thrilled me was that this year they found cave art in Spain which was made by Neanderthals. One of the drawings is of a ladder. The ladder is found in ancient art all over the world and is believed to represent DNA – and… Read more »

skarab
skarab
nush ciel
nush ciel

I hear you. In my line of work where all linen and towels are white, and we deal with girl germs and baby poo and our logo should be “Bloods’R’Us”. But on to my other observation about medicalised childbirth. SO Mars in Virgo…have an epidural and your labouring is done by your body and aided by machines discreetly pumping in analgesia through your back ( which will reduce your contractions) whilst stuff to make your uterus contract is pumped in to your veins. Tied around your belly with straps in pretty pale pink or yellow are the monitoring objects to… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Scary stuff

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

I don’t want the socials/watching TV/fully automated nature of medicalized childbirth, but I do like the idea of a pain-free (or even low pain) labor.

I get that it’s this transformative experience and you’re bringing life into the world, but does it have to involve anguish to be significant? (Or, is the pain part of the process for some other mystical reason).

Jokerman
Jokerman

Obv l know nuthn about this specifically.
However, in an abstract sense, advertising is not about the virtue, or otherwise, of said product. Rather it is about how much money they can make from it. Like, shit, they still make kids sleepwear out synthetic crap.

Look at Dieselgate, Trump, banks, health benefits (so-called), big pharma (which aims to keep the populace sick- no profit in healthy ppl). And don’t get me started on the 90% of what supermarkets call ‘food’.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I think Gruen has covered this.

skarab
skarab

Yes – and specifically to the topic at hand, I hate it even more when advertisers & corporations take “women’s issues” on board – as if they are trying to help us if we buy their products. “Femvertising” it’s called. One insidious example was an ad campaign for “Always” – sanitary pads & tampons from the Proctor & Gamble corporation. It was called “Always – Like a Girl” They showed a three minute video of empowered young girls and women, and at the end it said “Rewrite the Rules – Always” – therefore making them (the corporation & their toxic… Read more »

Crystallised future
Crystallised future

Ha! Pluto Lilith transit – I’m hearing ya!

embarkons7
embarkons7

Love these comments — and apropos since it’s the first day of my flow. But let’s get talking about this Pluto in Aquarius pulp novel series. Do Everything Feel Nothing could also be the motto of Jessica Jones type Aquarius heroine for one imprint of the series, whose cool, nearly inhuman detachment is threatened by the arrival of . . . a Plutonic heart-throb an eighth house near-death experience a Pluto transit crashing her stoic, icy expedition through Siberia to stop a den of literal qi vampires . . . . It feels like there’s A LOT of possibilities for… Read more »

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

theres a lovely company here in u.k….natracare i think its calked…they make organic cotton pads…cant bear tampons, its supposed to flow…

dark star
dark star

Lol more apt for a Xanax ad in Waspville?

Ive been using this this new technology, flex and I think it’s great. uber Uranus in Taurus- women founded, easy to use, chic packaging. I dislike diva cups.

bosslady
bosslady

AAlso very Uranus in Taurus: reusable menstrual cups like the Diva Cup. I switched a year ago and never plan on going back!

SheRat
SheRat

Sigh. I wish *I* had Mars in Capricorn.

I’ve got a whole series about SheRat the Tampon Terrorist on backlog in my blog. Not sure if I can post ’em here?

SheRat
SheRat

BTW: Am I the only one for whom tampons actually cause MORE pain? Let it flow, mang!

ponycat
ponycat

Same here. I literally cannot use them because it causes weird pressure.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Yep, haven’t used tampons since I was about 20 years old. Only pads, and for years I used cloth pads. Tampons made my cramps worse. Now I can’t use them because I have uterine fibroids and the tampon creates extra pressure symptoms. I tried one once recently just out of curiosity because it had been so long..
Well, in a few short years I probably won’t have my period anymore, so I suppose ‘yay’ for that, too! ….although I don’t look forward to everything that goes along with that :/

Pegasus
Pegasus

Flower, it’s only the western world that magnifies man-o-pause or me-no-pause as soneone once said.We get negatively programmed to expect problems.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Yeah, I know….but I’m already having some changes that I’m not happy about… I think if I could move away from this urban area, I might have a better time of it…

emg
emg

Oh I thought I’d sail through it and of course some do but I will say I’m just physically cracking up and the free form anxiety is a nightmare. I’m now using bio identical hormones which are worth their weight in gold.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Hey, emg, I use Motherwort for the anxiety and helps hot flashes, too. Helps me wake up happier in the morning, too, not so cranky!

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

too scary, too scary

Alouetta
Alouetta

I’d like to bring back the bleeding shack so I could quietly retire to it every month with my laptop, my cat and some snacks.

I love my cups – el cheapo no-name brands from ebay. I figure China’s been making dildos out of medical grade silicon since the 90’s so no need to get fussy. I got all religious about them initially until I read that they are worse than useless for homeless women, requiring as they do, somewhere to conduct proper cleaning and sterilising. So not the perfect answer for everyone, but since when is anything? Axe the tax.

Unicorn Sparkles
Unicorn Sparkles

Toxic shock put a stop to my laughing and horse riding days

Michaela
Michaela

Spot on Mystic, as always!
On the positive side it seems like most of us here have the luxury of choice. I was having a massive conversation on this whole topic last week with my Very Virgo friend, who was so appalled by the fact that sanitary products are one of the first “luxuries” to get dropped from the shopping list when you are struggling to feed the family that she’s trying to get a charity off the ground to get good (organic, unscented, respectful) products to those who need them… I am so in awe…

Squared Virgo
Squared Virgo

Pluto-Lillith! to be honest, i always felt the blue blood, white pants and laughing women were a huge indicator that Muggle men were making these ads….although I am sure there were some “female assistants” asked how they feel about the “look and feel” of these ads on the way, while those men were busy snorting/drinking/whatever and telling each other how great they are. Horse Riding? Lucky are the women who can actually move while bleeding and get through these days without being in utter pain. Aptly, I am bleeding right now, dreamed of Zombies last night, being in a rescue… Read more »

skarab
skarab

NOOOO – don’t !! ….(says my Lilith in Taurus)

sphinx
sphinx

I’m pretty sure the menstruating together thing isn’t true? Women’s cycles differ in length. But yay to the rest!

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Sometimes it happens when women live together long enough/share experiences. My mom & sister’s cycles were never in sync with mine, but nearly all the roommates I had (college & post-college) we’d get into this groove where for a good 7-8 months, our cycles would start right around the same time. Of course everyone has different lengths, flows, etc. but I don’t think it’s uncommon for women in close proximity.

dizzarina
dizzarina

Yep, happened to me and my roommates in college, too

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

god, thats actually scary

Pi
Pi

Yeah it’s kind of feeling like a really retrograde slogan approach to inhabiting our bodies! As mystic vibes

syrynx
syrynx

Yes. I saw one of those large warehouse online delivery places where the people had tech strapped to their arms. Not only did the tech scan items and update inventories and such, it told the people where to walk in the warehouse to maximise efficiency. I thought, OMG, now we are just the mindless robots, pack horses for tech, not even able to exercise free will. Pretty soon those arm gadgets will administer a shock if you take five minutes extra break or walk the “wrong” way and noone will bat an eye.

luckyshell
luckyshell

LOLA. Organic, customizable, delivery / subscription setup. It’s like the milk man, but with tampons and no man. Consider this my unpaid endorsement.

Michaela
Michaela

Thanks for the LOLA tip. Will pass it on

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Oh and does Mars in Cap really indicate workaholic tendencies?

That’s my natal placement and it makes SO much sense, if so.

Does the house matter? Like Mars in Cap 12th would be a spiritual workaholic? 7th a relationship overachiever or couple’s therapist? 2nd house a stressed out banker?

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Also … Why do we need scented tampons? Bleached cotton isn’t enough. No … We need perfume showed up the hoohah all day, too.

That said, the Thinx brand has far more female- friendly (dare I say empowered) period marketing. They acknowledge that you might feel crummy, or courageous. Like doing nothing on the couch or running a marathon.

And their fluid-absorbing panties will be right there with you.

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Perfume *shoved* up the hoohah. D*mn autocorrect!

Pegasus
Pegasus

As i was in various countries that didn’t have readily available tampons, used a sea sponge. Once had to circle cut a square ‘wettex’, a kitchen sponge. They were coloured BUT that was of the least concern at the time. If neither were around, just stayed in the ocean for many hours a day.
What we do when we HAVE no options, huh.

AstroGeek
AstroGeek

Did the sea sponge (being a living(?)) creature impact your vaginal flora/fauna? Seawater has always been a cure all for most things for me. I’ve had the luxury of flowing in the ocean all of once and it was kind of amazing.

BLISS WITCH
BLISS WITCH

yeah: kind of vibing more like:

do nothing – feel everything

not in a soggy, emotional mess kind of way but more of a yes, I’m alive, now, in the moment zone.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

haha that is a more Taurean friendly motto!

Alouetta
Alouetta

Oh I like that!

Ace
Ace

I’m more feel everything and do nothing

A_J_
A_J_

Hear hear!

joolz
joolz

100!!!!

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

as one should! Why not relax for a day or two? Why must we always be doing something?

pi
pi

I completely agree, scorpio rising. busy ness is not a virtue in itself

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

busyness is not always the same as productivity just busy and stressed out.

baristagem
baristagem

Do everything – feel everything is me (Natal Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo 6th and Pisces Rising)

Holy Fuq – I’m watching the Handmaid’s Tale S2. I felt physically sick in S1 and I’ve only watched the first episode in S2. I have to watch the Good Fight to counter balance the terrible crimes against women.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Bleak. I couldn’t watch it.

virgosun
virgosun

nor me

Alouetta
Alouetta

I’m not ready for season 2 yet. What’s even more horrifying though is Atwood’s rule for writing it: everything had to have already happened to women, in some time or place. She just jammed it all in the one book.

skarab
skarab

fuq – that takes iron guts detachment.

Or – Margaret Atwood:
Uranus in Taurus (12th H)…hellooo.. & Moon-Mars in Aqua (10th)

pi
pi

i’d write it. to prove a point.

skarab
skarab

Oh totally! It SHOULD be written. I think i’d need deep therapy and a decade on a desert island afterwards though. I so admire people that can do this without cracking up.

Alouetta
Alouetta

This is a great interview with Moss and Atwood. You might like: http://time.com/collection-post/4925657/margaret-atwood-and-elisabeth-moss/

I think I read somewhere else that she did actually get very down writing the book, but she felt that she had to do it. I’m glad she did, even if it makes for hard reading/viewing.

skarab
skarab

Thanks Alouetta, but for some bizarre reason that interview is not available in my country(!?) But you inspired me to check out other interviews she’s done on the book & film.

kriblack
kriblack

The book was mandatory reading in my Canadian high school. While I don’t remember much of the plot, I do remember how bleak and depressed I felt after reading it and so despite all the accolades, have chosen not to watch the series.

emg
emg

I haven’t watched the first and therefore will not watch the second. I can’t watch violent movies either as for me it is all real. It is happening every day and then create a storyline about female salvery and subjection and I just crumble into deep deep anxiety depression and despair, I am way too sensitive a flower to consider it. But I am pleased it is out there. But it needs not to be entertainment some how. I feel it is the wrong context for this. But we start somewhere I suppose. Momentum is building.

emg
emg

Oh and Ireland goes to the polls today to see if there is the mindset of change for their religious based Abortion laws.
I watch with interest on this one.

SheRat
SheRat

Yep, I’m not watching it either. Why would we watch our own torture-porn?

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

yep, cant go near it

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

WOAH, this is crazee…. But i have to admit, as a hyper-empath, (virgo with venus in Cancer) I looked at it (on this site) and thought–that is exactly the sort of detachment I am aiming for since Uranus went into Toro…. Because when a hyper empath strives to feel “nothing” it basically translates as “normal levels of emotion”—like when a Leo aims to rock a “subtle” look. I feel WAY too much. Constant guilt trips, worrying, empathy for every living soul, crying over the spider you accidentally squashed…. “Do everything, feel nothing” feels liberating and Zen to me. Because it… Read more »

VirgoStellium
VirgoStellium

Same here.

Pi
Pi

Do Everything – Feel Nothing is the unspoken mantra for every single person who ever worked in the service industry, for workers in the gig economy, and anyone who has spent a not insignificant portion of their working life in any gig that can be described using a combination of the words corporate, menial, task-based, for-profit, assistant, customer-facing, consultancy, etc.

Although Pluto ingress aquarius will also time with Uranus into gemini, and if that’s not going to be some revolution in hyper-tasking, I don’t know what is

Pi
Pi

That planet combo HAS to be the creation of the Borg. The hivemind for real. Uranus in Toro will virtualise the body, then we go for the Mind.

Unicorn Sparkles
Unicorn Sparkles

Ha. The borg was the first thing I thought of. Do everything feel nothing… like if they were rebranding for the western world.

SheRat
SheRat

Gack, Pi! Just yesterday I was given some book about how the rich will live in hyper-virtual sumptuosness while the rest of us labor in real-bio squalor.

I have been preparing for Neo-Feudalism since 2004. Just sayin.

Fireandwater
Fireandwater

Funnily enough, part of my uranus in toro realizations thus far have centered around the body as a literal hivemind. All the little consciousnesses… cells in all senses of the word… adding up to this set of feelings and sensations we describe as “me” or “my body.” Like how a physical ailment, even unrealized, can totally shift mental/emotional well-being.

“I am” ~ hivemind, party of one

pi
pi

the iching talks about this too i think. james dekorne tends to mention it in his useful discussions. the elements of consciousnes and the self.

HellaHeka
HellaHeka

As someone who feels absolutely everything (Moon opp neptune) today something weird happened and I felt nothing. And I was totally fucking relieved. I was all like “OMG I can process this rationally for maybe the first time in forever”

dizzarina
dizzarina

With Moon conj Neptune (and in Scorp), I can relate. The most exhilirating part of getting older, for me, is that I am finally not feeeeelllliiiing every fuqing thing. I have some semblance of boundaries. It’s awesome

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

Uber Detached. Uranian – no? Aren’t Uranian/Aqua types described to be too cold for winter, detached from expression of feeling, yet under the layers – we’ve felt it all, assessed it and discarded the unhelpful aspects. Played the chess moves domino effect. We’ve felt the whispers of the psychic winds and abided by their musings. Deep feeling, too deep to cognise, binuaral beats beyond the bass-bereft-bedlam of StupidMarkets. Just do. Menstrual Cups all the way. Fuq the fluros, and the toxic stench.
I’m down for the MM crowd-written novel.

kriblack
kriblack

I used to work with a woman who used sea sponges for tampons and swore by them. I’ll stick with my Diva cup. I gave up on those synthetic dyed string brands years ago, they gave me an allergic reaction.

Alouetta
Alouetta

I used to use sponges, but they get pretty nasty after a while and are hard to deal with in public toilets.

kriblack
kriblack

I can see that, my friend used to boil them and suppose dispose of them after awhile but I did think it was too much effort. She was a hard core Hedge witch, earth goddess though. Literally every aspect of her life was hand made from natural ingredients.

SheRat
SheRat

I did the sponge thing in my hippie college but stopped obviously when I entered the “real world.” The scuttlebutt was that Kotex, et. al. put Vitamin K on the tampons so you bleed more. Not sure if they still do.

For days when you don’t have to leave the house, hippie stores do sell, like, cloth pads…I had a couple that I used for, geez, at least two years (at least!). They’re not so hot for anything beyond going to the corner shop for wine. 😉 Very bulky.

kriblack
kriblack

As I mentioned above, I use a Diva cup. It’s a reusable silicone cup you insert and then dump out when needed, rinse and reuse. I’ve been using it for about 3 years now and will never go back to anything else.

A_J_
A_J_

This is why I don’t support shit brands like Tampax. Besides the rayon and TSS. Please pass me some extra moss.

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