Saturn In Capricorn Alert

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Saturn In Capricorn Alert:  This is the sort of celestial energy that activates the deepest of subliminal grudge lines and caches of family secrets.  Anything family-of-origin linked could feel emotionally more like a trip to the catacombs.

Any dilemma or scenario whatsoever could seem to fall more easily into an historical context than it normally would.

And whatever you were psychically bequeathed may feel more real and accessible from here on in, as Saturn takes up residence.

Secret Assets: (1) Parenting or caring for people – including yourself, they way you wish you had been supported in your most vulnerable phases. (2) “Good” or “haute” Saturnine patriarchal energy. An obvious example; Robert Mueller.

 

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ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Completely off topic but was just putting in some quality Oracle time and wondered if we might have a new question – What is my Saturn in Capricorn message? The kicker being that there would only be one answer – ‘stop wasting time and get back to work’ LOL #procrastinating101

Jokerman
Jokerman

Mine would say “Are you thick…or what?”

Stephanie MuellerMM Member
Stephanie Mueller

On a different Saturn in Capricorn subject. Has anyone else noticed that since Saturn got in to Capricorn time seems to be moving more slowly? Almost at a leisure pace. It is an interesting contrast to the intensity of life at the moment . . .

ElectroMM Member
Electro

A few weeks ago, we had some friends over for dinner and busted out our tureen that we’ve used about 4 times in ten years. Having just finished reading Alice in Wonderland, my daughter sang us the Beautiful Soup song that the mock turtle sings near the end. That’s all I got right now. A soup toureen and Wonderland. When exactly will winter (my Neptune square) end? It’s really hard to break out of familial-set patterns. I found a fish frozen in ice the other day, same spot as where my old beaver friend used to have a dam. I… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

You shouldn’t mix ya drugs…crack on ice, lol

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I’m trying to achieve the Batman level of Uranity as you have.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I still haven’t figured out why l where my underpants on the outside?

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Uranus in Taurus means it will enter the northern hemisphere of my chart for the first time. I’m so excited.

Jokerman
Jokerman

You are Scorp Asc are you not? If so it’ll be your Southern Hemisphere! Its back to front of normal Geo thinking. Crazy l know!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Yep Scorpio rising! And I think that hemispheres were mentioned in Astro School and I forgot. Oops!

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

Maybe it’s because Pluto is now in the 5th house, but Saturn in the 4th is allowing me to see how little the family depression is on me. I definitely didn’t need to take it on and the remorse vibe is still there as my body gets over the atlas vibe, but I have this “oh my gawd I’m so sorry you were all so depressed/repressed” view with less and less it’s mine at all. Which bodes well for not taking on anyone elses shite ever again. I watch others fear and anger slip off me at night, I am… Read more »

faeMM Member
fae

Have been having confrontations with my mom and stepdad on behalf of my little (rebellious) sister, and am definitely feeling that parenting the parents vibe. Saturn will be transporting my Uranus at 6 my Neptune at 12, my Saturn at 19… as Pluto already has been!

faeMM Member
fae

*transitting

P.S. All in my 7th no less!

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I actually like the idea of Saturn transporting… I’m thinking eco-friendly public transport, the most sensible route even if it takes longer, and everyone has to stand up for the entire journey to give their cores a proper work out 🙂

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I have been having really strong urges to go it alone. First time in my life I feel capable and willing to test myself and trust myself – to see what I can really do. I feel like I’ve spent my whole life panicking and looking for someone to rescue me and to be freed from the ‘terror’ of being alone and now I’m simply no longer afraid. Historical – you could say so. Original abandoned child trauma from early 70’s on rinse-and-repeat for 40 years. I’m saying no to friends’ invitations that normally I would grasp at; fixing my… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Also, Pluto has just finished with my moon-Lilith…

dark starMM Member
dark star

Feeling this, especially last paragraph. Green smoothie calibration for the win

PiMM Member
Pi

Deep stuff. Good work chrysalis . It’s funny though. I’m the opposite I’m some ways – people and socialising are my lifeline at the moment. I do love a green smoothie but I can’t tolerate isolation lately. Big change from my usual closed-doors nerdout MO

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Your Gemmy rising is keeping you connected to the world xxx

PiMM Member
Pi

I was wondering if it was me doing better at my Libra node, and “more authentically relating” with progressed cancer moon. Until this point for the past 5 years my gem rising was keeping me connected …on the internet hahaha xx
Wait, unless all the planets in my cap 7th are boosting the “musst…see… other people!” energy? Is Capricorn your 8th house? Maybe that’s the private-business reclusive vibe?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

That’s true, Libra plus your 7th house getting lit up by Saturn, lots of 7th house-y energies there. Saturn there will demand authentic connection – he’ll be a relationship (of all kinds) superpower, I reckon x

PiMM Member
Pi

My reply sounded totally patronising. You know what I mean right?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Not patronising at all, I totally got what you meant 🙂
Cap is my 5th house, opposing my 11th. I’m embarking on a fairly biggish 5th house thing with structure, deadlines etc and deep down I would love to immerse myself in it to the exclusion of anything non-essential. Or maybe it’s just that I’ve become acutely aware of which relationships/time investments have passed their use-by date.

rachelMM Member
rachel

Being ultra Leo–sun, mercury, mars, AND venus plus SOUTH node–of course I did theater throughout school (and would have majored in it if I had not dropped out to save myself the debt). My high school theater director was hugely influential in my life, leading us in taking a world premiere play to the Edinburgh Fringe, etc, eventually founding an arts school which spearheaded much needed downtown revitilization, etc. SO literally on the eclipse day he committed suicide after suddenly being under investigation for sexual conduct with a student and being placed on academic leave. So I have been in… Read more »

rachelMM Member
rachel

Oh and did I mention I am something like 4 degrees from Saturn returning–6th house, conjunct Neptune/Uranus (Uranus conjunct transit already on)

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

That’s so sad on so many levels – sorry for the loss you are feeling xx

rachelMM Member
rachel

And omg the play we took to the fringe was about suicide prevention

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Holy woah. That’s so heavy 🙁

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

I think there’s something shamanic about feeling the brokenness of another’s experience, with all the interconnections and how they feel broken, as well. Only you can feel what you sense about it all, and ultimately it’s a lonely journey, even if you possibly connect with anyone else about it. Care deeply for yourself at this time. It’s not selfish or using or feeding your own projections off the energy. Only you will feel the layers of the impact on you, and the whole thing sounds quite complex. Please take extra loving care of you for as long as you can,… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

This is SO ON THE MONEY!!!

“Parenting or caring for people – including yourself, they way you wish you had been supported in your most vulnerable phases.”

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

This my Saturn in Cap jam. Especially that bit about putting money in your matress.

https://sowndhaus.audio/track/8741/long-remember-the-thunder

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I am so frustrated today. Frustrated by people at work. I am becoming both more influential and less empowered. I don’t know how to explain it but I hate it. I think it’s Pluto-square-Saturn transit. The patriarchy is beyond boring. A good dad figure? Over it. My boobs hurt so I think it’s hormonal. I tried dairy yesterday for the first time in three weeks. I think I have a milk protein allergy. I wonder if it’s an allergy/transit/hormone that makes me want to quit everything and hide under a rock. Either way, riding it out.

PiMM Member
Pi

“Over it”
Omg <3 thank you

Veronica
Veronica

“deepest of subliminal grudge lines and caches of family secrets. Anything family-of-origin linked could feel emotionally more like a trip to the catacombs”. Mystic did you come with me back to my country -of -origin recently? 🙂 So have been home here in Oz for 2 weeks and processing. Felt a shift in my consciousness, came back more relaxed, feeling…more-who-I -am for want of a better way of expressing. This after visiting my mother’s side of the family, she was the eldest of 9 siblings, where there was more drama and resentment and ancient family angst than any telenovela… This… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Italians?

Veronica
Veronica

Good call, Close…Spanish Filipinos 😀

*Catholicism is a hell of a drug*

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Say no more 🙂

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Incredible timing for such a journey astrologically. Sounds like you got a lot out of it. Amazing stories ..

dark starMM Member
dark star

Well I did spend all yesterday sleeping /hanging out on planet hangover. Got way too drunk out, was talking to an Olympian who turned out to be gross and married, my judging friend had to take me home. It unearthed some shadow aspects and personal dynamics I still need to work on incorporating. Check parenting yourself, check Saturn, check Neptune issues which occur when your Saturn and Neptune are exact. Mystic is always dead on.

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Yup! Saturn currently conjunct my natal Neptune in my 4th house. Are you also Neptune in Cap? Sorry about that icky situation. Hope you are feeling better!

dark starMM Member
dark star

Thank you! Feeling better after self care and journaling. Yep Nep and saturn are in cap, exact conjunct for a fun time. But that’s my Longform karma…balancing the two. Just thought of analogy: Saturn is the rhythm and Neptune the melody.

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Glad to hear it! Hmm, yea I like that analogy. Tho I have Saturn in Sag, definitely resonates to me with Neptune in cap.

BLISS WITCHMM Member
BLISS WITCH

Weird, I just painted my living room that color.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Weirdly I just painted over a bedroom in a more intense, slightly lighter version of this colour!

flowerchild
flowerchild

Interesting, I was just doing some inner child, inner parenting work on myself this morning.
Last night had a huge conversation/share with old friends about all sorts of family stuff we’ve all been going through.
This past week I’ve been celebrating my birthday and seeing a lot of old friends, so the Sun on south node thing was really noticeable for me this week too, as south node was also transiting on my natal Sun.
It’s been a trip……bittersweet.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Happy belated birthday Flowerchild xxx

flowerchild
flowerchild

Thanks, Chrysalis! 🙂

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Gotta love going home to visit family only for your uncle to call you a whore in front of everyone. And it’s like you know what? I am not a little girl forced to be there anymore and I don’t need this shit. Hurts tho.

dark starMM Member
dark star

Whoaaaa virtual hug bc that’s seriously awful, especially from and in front of family. Insanely hurtful.

Recently I worked on some shame issues around being called a slut by a peer in front of a bunch of friends when I was 18. Actually found it was deeper, dating back to preschool where a bunch of kids made fun of me for kissing a boy. And it’s so normal of an expression at that age. I’m not sure what your family dynamic is around this, but I know that giving yourself love and acceptance (and lots of journaling) helped me.

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Thanks dark star. I greatly appreciate the virtual hug, and I’m sending you one right back. It’s so true, the shame is what’s unhealthy. If there was ever a time to whip out my journal…thanks for the reminder that it’s there for me to help me sort this out; and for the good vibes in general.

Veronica
Veronica

and the totally creepy thing is that uncle is probs attracted to you, but makes the shame yours. Grrrrr

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Ewww I hope not! I have a different uncle that’s a total creeper like that. Never thought this one, he’s more the type to tease like a brother, but this time crossed a line. Either way? gross, and damnit you’re probably right.. Talk about “trip to the family catacombs”. It is raising all kinds of patriarchal shame that i’ve grown up with via my extended family.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I’m sorry that happened to you. I had something similar happen to me when I was 12 and 30 years later it still burns.

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Thanks. I am sorry that happened to you, too. *Hug*

PiMM Member
Pi

If its any help, when I read this I strongly felt like jumping up and putting him in a choke hold until he saw the errors of his ways (look it’s a bit 20th century but it feels good). Although my mars in Aquarius tactic irl would have been to argue him and his shit views into dust.
What a total fuqing jerk. You poor thing. In an ideal world, fam step in and he is ostracized. Or something. Doesn’t change that first impact though. Ugh.

PiMM Member
Pi

Think about it though. He’s a gross old man who can’t deal and resorts to something he thinks is an insult to cover his own shame and unconscious beliefs that set him firmly in the middle ages. He’s disgusting enough to think he can just, like, do this , and in front of tje most familiar ppl to you like it’s nothing. The shame, regret, rejection etc is in fact all his to bear. So stuff him and his dinosaur issues. He is last week’s newspaper lining the smelly kitty litter. YOU are eternally new. And he knows you know… Read more »

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Thanks pi. This made me laugh. Ideally my fam would step in but no one did, unfortunately. He’s like the family “jokester” but he clearly crossed the line. I’m from an old school mediterranean family. My other uncle is even creepier and my mom and aunts all just look the other way. I don’t think he would have said that shit if my dad or husband had been there, which is in and of itself messed up. It’s just making me realize how much toxic air I had been breathing as a kid in my family. This is where your… Read more »

DeiMM Member
Dei

We are on holiday in Cape Town and literally an hour after getting off the plane my father in law starts going at my husband. It’s uncovered sibling rivalries, and bad behavior going back 20 plus years.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

This month’s writing practice is a personal memoir essay about deep family dysfunction as it played out perfectly the week of my son’s birth. Sooo, right in timing over here.

Alex
Alex

I love silverware with feet.

PiMM Member
Pi

Maybe it’s a bit like rock climbing or a very steep hike, you need to check where you put your feet because you need to put all your weight onto one toe-hold as you move up , you don’t want that sucker crumbling beneath you before you have a hold higher up

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Useful imagery!

PiMM Member
Pi

The eclipse was exact on my Saturn in Leo, in my 2nd house so yes it’s a bit about work and money but also going a bit deeper, about how ‘worth it’ I believe I am and some other related things. Saturn being fear etc I’m just dealing with some of the same old same old, we improve a bit each time maybe. My current thing is “loyalty to someone who’s supported me and my weird working ways when I needed it” and “money in the bank” … I’m trying to be a better member of the human race by… Read more »

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

Oh wow, that eclipse was on your natal Saturn? Jeez. I see the dilemma. Makes me think of the plane analogy of putting on your oxygen mask first before you put it on a child – you can’t help anyone if you’re down for the count! I return to that one a lot when feeling guilty about taking care of myself before others. Sending good vibes, the struggle is real!

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

But I don’t want to climb any more and now I can’t get off this thing! (Clearly I’m having a bad day x)

PiMM Member
Pi

Haha yes.. You know what though , as I was thinking about the I’m so tired/I can’t /I don’t wanna, I thought of these dharma meditations I listen to, they kind of take away the hardass ‘you HAVE to’ sentiment of separation and let you (ok, me, /anyone) back into a personal safe space, where it’s still all ok. It’s a fear thing? I’ve had some friends who has some really lovely freeing processes happen for them on the eclipse, others had some challenges come up Because for me it is a Saturn thing, then I don’t want to face… Read more »

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

“Anything family-of-origin linked could feel emotionally more like a trip to the catacombs.”

“Parenting or caring for people – including yourself, they way you wish you had been supported in your most vulnerable phases.”

How do you do this @Mystic? Seriously I am amazed. <3

babysinclairMM Member
babysinclair

I know right

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

I had a discussion about this very topic with new coworker/passenger on the way home. Too many similiarities. “Mother? Pffft don’t even ask!” Rumblings of teenage angst and love lorn dramatics on the cards any day now. I held my breathe and bit my tongue for the eclipse. But Father dearest has a shorter fuse. Fuse cards tongue cliche city

Plum
Plum

In my chart, Capricorn is emphasised but Saturn is confused. I am uncomfortable with both parenting and being parented (in the widest sense, i.e. that type of support relationship with anyone). Last time Saturn was in Capricorn was when I became an adult, and I’d always been more adult-in-waiting than child. This time, I sense another shift in generational balance, towards a time when I may need to parent my parents.

LiliMM Member
Lili

Yes! Sent text reminding extended fam to visit older BIL in hospital and rehab- sadly only 3 of 8 of us bother to visit-call. And all local. Used to be me, Ms 12th H Florence who floated in. Since Saturn in Cap- I reckon it’s time for turn-taking.