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HellaHeka
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HellaHeka
February 16, 2018 5:06 pm

This post is responsible for my discovery of Cluam and now I can’t get enough.

milleunanotte
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milleunanotte
February 16, 2018 10:24 pm
Reply to  HellaHeka

Would love to go there but she reminds me uncomfortably of two people i wouldn’t revisit. Though i’m enjoying the laughter about one of them, as she was my former bestie in another decade, another life. (She’d appreciate that, but it would set her off on another diatribe, no doubt.)

Plum
Plum
February 17, 2018 7:08 am
Reply to  HellaHeka

Haha, I too have indulged.

Taurantula
Taurantula
February 16, 2018 1:37 pm

Taurus Sun (29 degrees) with a Pisces moon. My father, my lover and the majority of my friends are all Scorpio or water signs.

They ALL have a Taurus Moon / Rising / something.

I dunno – I know how to navigate moody water well and “lighten” there heaviness which they appreciate. Nothing but good times in our deep ocean social spaces together, hence why I claim to be ” water buffalo Taurus” *wink*

Sagittaurean
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Sagittaurean
February 16, 2018 6:03 am

BJORK, I believe, is Sun in Scorpio and yet her birthday falls after the sun moved into Sagg this past year. I definitely feel all those vibes from her, but then again her Mercury is in Sagg and her AC is also in Scorp. Rather archetypical of the cusp of those two signs., imo.

Ren
Ren
February 16, 2018 1:15 am

I’m 29 degree pisces and don’t believe in cusps. I feel no aries characteristics in me except for my mercury but even that one is aspected with neptune. You’re either one or the other.

Virgonator
Virgonator
February 16, 2018 12:57 am

My daughter is “to the cusp” with Scorpio 29 degrees. Doesn’t have a drop of Sag in her chart, but all her Scorp is in the 9th house. She seems very Scorp to me, with a lot of Pisces (her moon) in there as well. I don’t get much of a Sag vibe off her.

Her best friend has the same birthday a year earlier (though of course I don’t know time) – they are such intense little 5-6 year olds!

GeminEE
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GeminEE
February 15, 2018 9:06 pm

Lol Cluam Sutherland is the bomb.

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
February 15, 2018 6:57 pm

she doesnt even say ‘im on the cusp’, she says im ‘to the cusp’
is english her second language?

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 15, 2018 8:37 pm
Reply to  scorpiodawn

like i said above, mercury in sadge – it’s all about the concept not the grammar. sheesh you must have virgo merc.

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
February 15, 2018 11:38 pm
Reply to  Mintaka

whoo, chill, i didnt see ur comment..no, merc in scorp actually

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 16, 2018 5:03 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

i’m really sorry scorpiodawn. did not mean to come off all bolshy like – i was aiming for frivolity following the nature of this silly post. but it does look like aggro at point blank range …. merc in scorp?… ooohkayy..

milleunanotte
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milleunanotte
February 16, 2018 10:21 pm
Reply to  scorpiodawn

Yeh, with a big fuq you eyes as if you didn’t know what she meant with her fq u grammar. ROFL what a prize astro example

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
February 15, 2018 6:54 pm

i bet this wound you up a treat, mystic! x

Redsonya
Redsonya
February 15, 2018 6:05 pm

Hmmmm. . I am a scorpio sun conjunct Venus in Sag at 0 degrees. That’s cuspy AF

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 6:37 pm
Reply to  Redsonya

I actually know someone who is a 27° Scorp but she said she wasn’t a Scorp. She was way too sunny for a trad Scorp.
I said she must’ve some Sagg such was her sunniness; as in personal planets.

I did her chart and she was Venus in the 1st degree and Moon and Mercury later in the 1st decan.

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
February 15, 2018 10:16 am

Cusps, the ancient Mayans, a bad haircut–she hits the trifecta!

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 15, 2018 11:26 am

yes – and while wielding a banana!

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
February 15, 2018 3:03 pm
Reply to  Mintaka

im just a bit confused about the “every day on my birthday”…everyday, or on her birthday, or her birthday is everyday? My inner grammar/communication nazi is having a meltdown

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 3:58 pm

Kenny Rogers has birthday everyday too!
Ah, the wonders of plastic surgery.

Unicorn Sparkles
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Unicorn Sparkles
February 15, 2018 8:44 pm

Yes that got to me too

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
February 16, 2018 12:57 pm

No Virgo in that chart.

Also, surely this is satire?

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 9:44 am

I think she is Sadge.

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 15, 2018 10:36 am
Reply to  Jokerman

scorpio apparently – but she does have a chronic case of mercury in sadge.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 10:47 am
Reply to  Mintaka

Is she a ‘someone’? How do you know?

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 15, 2018 11:12 am
Reply to  Jokerman

google cluam sutheland

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
February 15, 2018 7:25 pm
Reply to  Mintaka

omg

Alouetta
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Alouetta
February 15, 2018 8:24 pm
Reply to  Mintaka

the internet has a lot to answer for

milleunanotte
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milleunanotte
February 16, 2018 10:15 pm
Reply to  Mintaka

Was going to say totally Sag but i hesitated because of some of the mannerisms, which reminded me of a Very Weird Scorpion i worked with.

Just wanted to add, the VWS did not gesture with banana in the same way, but totally could have. Now i come to think of it, i have seen her eating one in punctuation to her facially aggressive diatribes.

milleunanotte
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milleunanotte
February 16, 2018 10:17 pm
Reply to  milleunanotte

Also that my earlier Totally Sag idea was founded on a past quadruple Sag buddy. And now i wonder what was in Scorpio in her chart, which i don’t have anymore. Could have been Merc, i’m wondering.

lalalozenge
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lalalozenge
February 15, 2018 9:17 am

why the bad wrap for a scorp/sag cusp? Never come across that one before.

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
February 15, 2018 6:55 pm
Reply to  lalalozenge

yeah, right!

DevotedGem
DevotedGem
February 15, 2018 8:41 am

I’ve been wondering about cusps for awhile, as I was born May 21 at 2:06pm on a day when the Sun changed from Taurus to Gem between 5-6am and the Moon changed from Taurus to Gem at 2:50pm, so I do wonder if this affects my energies at all. Weird enough to have such a close conjunction of Sun and Moon out of sign like that.

Basically this just means the internet is the best thing ever, because I can taken in as much info as I want without having to get off the couch.

Sagittaurean
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Sagittaurean
February 16, 2018 6:35 am
Reply to  DevotedGem

Check out the Secret Language of Birthdays if you haven’t already. A sea of revolutionaries are born around that cusp.

mandalamagikal
mandalamagikal
February 20, 2018 3:35 am
Reply to  Sagittaurean

Thank you! Yes! Like my husband and Diego Rivera!! Mwah x love those tomes. The Relationship Book is mind blowing also. All based on sunsign matches, but Personology takes into account 48 archetypes- one per week including cusps. The Cusp of Revolution- we are living it right now!! ❤️

Taurantula
Taurantula
February 16, 2018 1:21 pm
Reply to  DevotedGem

Hello fellow May 21 🙂 My Taurus sun is at 29 degrees with a Gemini Rising. I have the warp speed Mercurial thingy but without the two-faked flakey vibe of low-vibe Gemini. Personally I think it’s a choice to be haute or low. Some of us are good friends with our shadows and have integrated them. BTW I just found my long-lost triplet cousins overseas – they were meant to be quintuplets but 2 did not make it. All born on May 21. We have also have triplet cousins born 100 years ago on May 22 but they all died… Read more »

Di
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Di
February 15, 2018 8:20 am

Mayans didn’t sacrifice people.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 8:47 am
Reply to  Di

Only big corporates (& governments) do that

lalalozenge
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lalalozenge
February 15, 2018 9:13 am
Reply to  Jokerman

and aussie cricket selectors

davidl
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davidl
February 15, 2018 12:33 pm
Reply to  lalalozenge

The tried to sacrifice The Big Show recently. Big mistake boofheads 😉

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 12:54 pm
Reply to  lalalozenge

The greatest selectorial blunders are
1 Bradman dropping Clarrie Grimmet. Statistically the greatest bowler of all time (6.5 wickets per test). He then broke the Shield record for wickets in the following 2 years. His record per state games is also unassailable.

&

2 Picking Darren Lehmann, aged 28, for his first test after being 12th man age 19. When he plays his first test he has already broken the State Shield run record (total aggregate). He reached his 5th century quicker than any of his contemporaries (Ponting, Hayden, Langer, Gilchrist or Martyn)

davidl
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davidl
February 15, 2018 2:29 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

And still holds a grudge on all of them. Did you see the photo of him and Ponting at the 20/20.
Classic frozen moment.

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 2:53 pm
Reply to  davidl

It doesn’t come thru in his book.
I like the Big Show. He has rubbed a few the wrong way. I like Boof and Smith. Ponting was a selfish captain and an electrifying batsman.

Aust’s best 3 captains are Air. Benaud and Chappelli both Libs and Waugh is a Gem. Smith has potential as an Air sign too.

davidl
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davidl
February 15, 2018 12:28 pm
Reply to  Di

Yeah but according to historians and I quote “Although not sacrificing people, the Mayans could be really aloof “. Eg It was hard for outsiders to get decent seats at shows and sports fixtures. Even getting a date with a decent Mayan was really hard.
The list of mean things goes on.

milleunanotte
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milleunanotte
February 16, 2018 10:10 pm
Reply to  davidl

“Even getting a date with a decent Mayan was hard”

*crying laughing*

The things i learn on this blog… Also, plus ca change…

A_J_
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A_J_
February 15, 2018 7:23 am

Cusps aren’t real…you’re either one Sun Sign, or the other. Run the chart.

*eyeroll*

HellaHeka
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HellaHeka
February 15, 2018 1:00 pm
Reply to  A_J_

Actually, according to Steven Forrest, it takes the sun about 12 hours to change signs, so anyone close to 0 degrees has the possibility of being an actual cusp. But it’s much rarer than pop astro would have us believe.

davidl
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davidl
February 15, 2018 9:01 pm
Reply to  HellaHeka

A cusp still means one or the other, not both, even for a short period of time.
For someone who is born in those hours the only dispute of what sun sign one is, can only be in dispute because the exact birthtime is unknown or unclear.
The 12hr thing ? Not sure about that ? When there is say a new moon we can tell which sign it’s in to the second ?

HellaHeka
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HellaHeka
February 16, 2018 4:45 pm
Reply to  davidl

Yeah, but the Moon changes signs daily, and the Sun does not. I hope I’m not out of bounds by linking his podcast here, he’s one of the other astrologers, besides Mystic obvi, who I follow pretty regularly. https://www.forrestastrology.com/blogs/videos/what-does-it-mean-if-im-born-on-the-cusp

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus
February 17, 2018 2:23 pm
Reply to  HellaHeka

Yes, this is absolutely a thing!! The Sun is a physical object, and its size obviously occupies a certain amount of celestial real estate in the sky above. Now as a Tropical astrologer I couldn’t give two fuqs about this – I’m measuring the “signs” as units of time *time* defined by the 4 seasons; not as actual real estate they’re occupying in the sky. That is for Sidereal astrologers. This is a crucial distinction – Tropical astrology’s “signs” DO NOT align with the actual constellations in the sky and this is a very common misconception. However for astrologers who… Read more »

Clavdia C
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Clavdia C
February 17, 2018 8:53 am
Reply to  A_J_

I find this current fad of getting up in arms over cusps to be hilarious. Look on any astro social media and you’ll see people flipping out over this. a) It seems like an attempt to grab at expertise or mastery. I love astrology but, folks, even astro physicists disagree over theories. It seems super silly to draw a hard and fast line over cusps.l b) If there are cusps in houses why not sun signs? I’ve seen people try to explain this but I have read to read anything that really explains it. If you have something, please share.… Read more »

Clavdia C
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Clavdia C
February 17, 2018 8:56 am
Reply to  Clavdia C

It’s like saying “there are no cusps!!” is the current shorthand for saying, “now some people are real astrologers and some aren’t and this is how you can tell I’m not just a teenager on Tumblr making aesthetics and memes bc here I am insisting that the one true fact about the stars is there are no cusps.”

Clavdia C
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Clavdia C
February 17, 2018 8:58 am
Reply to  Clavdia C

Last, I’m in the 0 degrees of Cancer and I completely and in all ways relate to any descriptions of The Cusp of Magic. I also have my Jupiter in the 3rd house so maybe that describes my Gem traits and that’s fine but, people, please chill on the cusp shaming.

Clavdia C
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Clavdia C
February 17, 2018 9:07 am
Reply to  Clavdia C

Sorry I’m letting my 3rd house Jupiter carry me away here. This is by no means whatsoever to imply that there is no such thing as mastery when it comes to astrology. This is definitely an art and there is, I believe, a body of knowledge to be learned and integrated.

Just saying when so much is up in the air and there are shades of meaning and different systems and interpretations it doesn’t make a lot of sense to create this ONE RULE OF ASTROLOGY

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus
February 17, 2018 2:48 pm
Reply to  Clavdia C

I get what you mean – personally I’ve never thought it was any reason to get my knickers in a knot. Though I will say I find it highly distasteful when people make their astrology “drama” as in the GIFs above. I want to answer b) for you – There are many different House systems as there are flavors of the rainbow, so there is no consensus about where a given House cusp starts across these very systems. I prefer to think of the Hoses simply as filing systems rather than get involved in right-fighting about this. House system evangelists… Read more »

Mintaka
Mintaka
February 18, 2018 2:52 am

Thanks v much LVenus and Clavdia C for this discussion – i learnt a good deal from it alone! it’s good to revisit the machinations and philosophy of astrology as these are topics that can become very confusing for people that are just beginning their astro journey. I came across this article/letter a few months ago – it was in response to some of the wrong assumptions used by certain scientists to put down Astrology: “Open letter to Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson” (i know how much he’s loved by some people here ;-)…not. It discusses and answers most of the… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 7:02 am

Ppl on the ‘cusp’ are liable to say anything.
This woman once said to me she was on the cusp of Gemini-Cancer. When l asked what date she said 16th of June…ha ha.

flowerchild
flowerchild
February 15, 2018 6:14 am

What’s with the banana?! Hahahahaha!

Jokerman
Jokerman
February 15, 2018 6:58 am
Reply to  flowerchild

You can’t be that hyped without a continual supply of potassium.

Sagittaurean
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Sagittaurean
February 16, 2018 6:12 am
Reply to  flowerchild

Scorpianic phallic symbol being devoured.

dark star
dark star
February 15, 2018 6:12 am

Just a burning way person!

emg
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emg
February 15, 2018 5:40 am

I’ve got a warped sister in law who thought she was scorpio until I checked out she was 0 degree sagi. Therefore I can concur. They’re not easy !

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
February 15, 2018 3:00 pm
Reply to  emg

yeh my mother is 0 degree Sagg and she has all the worst characteristics of a Scorpio…and pretty much no Sagg

emg
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emg
February 15, 2018 6:49 pm

Yes that’s what we’ve found. She’s got dredged gunk of Scorpio with all the ranting fire of saggi. Run away !

Lady Jane
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Lady Jane
February 15, 2018 2:54 am

Beauty in this

Sam
Sam
February 15, 2018 2:42 am

sharing this with my scorp sadge cusp friend who probably shares a birthdate with her and might agree .. they even have similiar faces 😀

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