Scorped Up But Not Harveyed

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Ain’t no ambiguity about this Jupiter. Jupiter – the Galaxy King – in Scorpio – constellation of the Phoenix, the Witch – this is the Via Combusta – the Scorpion, Sex, Wealth and Power – is a depth tripper.

The Weekly Horoscopes – from October 14 are posted – with more.

And, well how apt for Jupiter in depth-tripping Scorpio is it that the current tabloid sleaze-fest/feminist victory has prompted SO many of us to discuss or think about when and how we were Harveyed.  How long before “harvey” is in official verb? I used to think it was normal to be harvied – it seemed extra prevalent in film, advertising and television circles when i was 18 to 22, the peak age to be harvied.  And for ages i thought it was something strange about me that attracted it. THIS is why it is so important that people such as (in the latest example) Cara Delevingne talk about it. So people in the current target market to be harvied don’t get the impression it’s normal.

There IS a discussion re this on the Astro School and my quick takes on the charts of Harvey Weinstein AND Donna Karan are also there. (Astro-School has evolved into more like a library with hundreds of how-tos for the aspiring astro-fiend and lifetime access to it is now included in the longer 24 month Mega Mystic memberships.)

But something that is occurring to me now is that the current cultural discussion moment is very Lilith trine Uranus. Lilith is super-feminist energy, always, the rebel feminine archetype who defines herself without reference to or regard for patriarchal norms AND Uranus is always up for the stripping back/rolling over of clapped out conventional crap.

Thoughts?

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Kym
Kym

The opinion piece below from Lupita Nyong’o on Harvey W based on her own encounters is worth reading https://nyti.ms/2kZnitu

Triple Air Gem
Triple Air Gem

I’m bummed out that we’re using Harvey as a horrid verb. My adorable 6 yr old nephew is named Harvey!

Re the piece of shit Harvey W, I’ve always thought of him as this:

https://goo.gl/images/dBN9n8

friends with pluto
friends with pluto

the eclipse at 28 Leo was on his South Node

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Countless times in countless ways.. Fired from one job as a waitress because I was a bet that failed.

Because of the barbaric male energy I have encountered I distrust the male species in general, but have high regard for the few who display the King of Swords characteristics I admire.

SerotinaMM Member
Serotina

I’ve been looking at Rose McGowan’s chart since she has been key to unmasking this sleaze. She has Venus conjunct Uranus, opposite Chiron, and Lilith on the North Node, opposite Saturn and square Pluto.

She just tweeted this:

“To all of us who have been hurt and silenced #RISE #ROSEARMY is here and our voices are mighty”

The patriarchy has been lashing out like hell lately. It’s about time for Lilith to show up and hit back.

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

She’s been absolutely fascinating in all this! Been wondering about her chart.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Oh, thanks for this! It’s like she was destined to play this part with a chart like that.

JanMM Member
Jan

You don’t fuck with Venus/Uranus/Chiron. We will go down with the ship if it’s for the greater good. Has lost me many a job but made a lot of positive changes in workplaces (that I never got to enjoy).

dark starMM Member
dark star

Interesting to look at the collective consciousness in this situation now as opposed to even a year or two ago with Kesha and that producer. As much as the news cycle is depressing I feel like the needle is going to a new standard of how women are treated- I think people are vehement now after their eyes were opened to how men in power operate and behave (Trump). Boundaries are being drawn. I’ve never been Harvied per se but I always think about my moms first interview right out of college in 1980 at IBM…including the question “if a… Read more »

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

So interesting to compare with Kesha. You’re right, we are moving forward!

pearlMM Member
pearl

Was assulted at 9 riding bike home from school..had my hair done in curls and felt “extra-pretty”that day..took a long time to figure out it wasn’t my fault .

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Oh, dear Pearl.. this comment jumped off the page as I logged in and I have a 9 year old. Breaks my heart for your 9 year old pearl inside, bless her.

dark starMM Member
dark star

Much love to you and healing for being taken advantage of so young xx

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

no it’s not you it’s the creeps fault. so sick of gross behavior by sick predators.

nattyMM Member
natty

First Haveyed at the age of 14 at a part time job.

Being Haveyed now at the age of 44, the times in-between are too numerous to mention.

gogengoMM Member
gogengo

I was just talking to my MIL about this –

Wounds that I thought had healed from Harvey experiences have been reopened, that feeling of such disgust for yourself + shame, “what did I do to deserve this? It’s my fault, I wore a low cut top, was flirty…”

Been Harveyed many many times, thought it was just part of being female up until a few years ago –

joolzMM Member
joolz

One benefit of aging: no more Harveys.

Highly recommend the GIRLS episode with Matthew Rhys. Does an amazing job of portraying the bizarre dynamics of powerful, manipulative men and younger women.

dark starMM Member
dark star

V true…was talking to one of my lady mentors about it. What I liked to was the total complexity of it all and yeah the cognitive dissonance. His character was repelling but also weirdly sympathetic and it was interesting to see Hannah walk through it

LaFemmaMM Member
LaFemma

Not “Harveyed” as I’ve been blessed by supportive women in my career versus men, I think I gravitated to women and men I deemed safe thanks to growing up hyper-aware of men who were not safe. Like most women I’ve gotten unwanted attention from men since I was 13 and growing up in a big city had to develop protective mechanisms like baggy clothes, sunglasses, books but growing older (and thus less of an easy target for these creeps) is the only thing that really helps. I was assaulted by a man I worked with as a teenager. He was… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Also, re: Donna Karan – Anthony Bourdain had the best comeback to her statement:

“How many seventeen year olds have you dressed like they are, in your words, ‘asking for it’?

FU, Donna – I hope your empire burns!

LaFemmaMM Member
LaFemma

I have new appreciation for Anthony, he was cool before now I heart him.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

The attitude expressed by DK (& others) galls me – do you know what I was wearing when I was 16 and a strange man in a pickup truck repeatedly rolled up to me on a walk home one fall evening and told me to come closer/get in? When he went so far as to circle menacingly around the block again and again and chase me down despite my telling him no? Jeans, brown hiking boots, and my then-boyfriend’s navy zip-up hoodie – I was about as covered up as I could possibly get short of wearing a burqa. We… Read more »

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

Yes. This!

TheNakedEyeMM Member
TheNakedEye

This!!

I’ve been Harvey-ed since I was 12 years old and the men never managed to break my spirit. But the women… oh god the women… and their “she was asking for it/ lying/ trying to steal my boyfriend, etc. etc.” that was when I gave up.

Because being myself was just too dangerous.

And that low self-esteem and repression led down some terrible paths. Like an emotional abusive ex-boyfriend.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

same. The insults and accusations from other women nearly broke me. I have severe trust issues with women now.

ruby
ruby

Have experienced the same countless times. The fact is that there are tons of women and girls in the sex industry (hookers) walking around dressed plainly, you wouldn’t think it to look at them. Some of the men who pick up those girls/women really DO get stuck on one individual, hence the freaky temporary obsession. You’re not a person to them, just some object of desire/fascination. You’d be surprised. It feels like contracting a disease when one of them trails you when you’re out and about.

dark starMM Member
dark star

Yeah I loved bourdains comment

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

I had to google to find the Donna Karan quotes as I was unaware. And now PR people scrambling with bs “ out of context” and “ misquoted “ come back.

Harvey trying to downplay it all as “ a mistake” like it was all a singular event and now playing victim.youve been called out champ. No pity here. You had none.

Anthony is fantastic.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

*sighs* This absolutely disgusts me – I’d like to take a knife and personally cut the balls off every SOB who engages in this kind of behavior. It is a cancerous epidemic not confined to just Hollyweird – we even have a sitting president who bragged about sexually assaulting women and then blows it off as “locker room talk”. Bullshit, buddy – you’re a fuqing predator! Not only is it disgusting by itself, the worst part about it is this normalizes a mentality that is in fact severely dysfunctional. Beside the specifics of being “harveyed” where men entice women closer… Read more »

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

amen. so sick of it all too. Waiting for Trump to be impeached and for Woody Allen fans to wake up next…he somehow gets a pass for marrying his adopted daughter shudder.

TripleLMM Member
TripleL

Here is the toxic atmosphere I endured throughout my graduate career:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/7/16262722/texas-tech-sexual-misconduct-investigation-sexism-biology

Sadly, female faculty advisors & mentors maintain their silence on these issues.

marsbar
marsbar

My younger self was too stupid to know if it was being Harvied or not. Like it would think perhaps a person would be interested if i put in a little more work, but then i was like..too hard…give up. Nama-stay my rump right here.
Hard to say for me.

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

What strikes me is how engrossed I have been in all the reporting of this open secret and how differently it’s being treated to such behaviour in past cases … there hasn’t been a lot of victim blaming or doubt cast on them. But there has been guilt on the part of the victims for something that was in no way their fault and for feeling like they lacked strength or let others down by not coming forward. It hits so many nerves on many levels in terms of what women’s place is expected to be in today’s world. And… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Our own names, maybe 🙂

WaterGemMM Member
WaterGem

Thinking Lillith’s square with Chiron is adding to it too!

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Harveyed indeed, the second time i was not so slow to cotton on and walked away from this much older familiy friend who put the hard word on me. Then I turned right around stomped up to him and said if i heard you right you want to f a 15 yo? Well mister you just better get the f out of our house because if i tell my dad he’s gonna beat the crap out of you. Youv’e got 10 minutes to make your excuses and dont EVER come back. The dragon had woken. And she occasional stirs from… Read more »

Starbaies
Starbaies

I’ve been Harveyed. Fresh out of college and dying to get some film experience under my belt. Met an indie film director and in my naïveté was not cautious enough with him. He took advantage of my being under the influence one evening(insisted for a spontaneous “work” meetup) and things went a lot further than I would ever have wanted. It wasn’t until the next day I realized what happened. This was with a Gemini. I was way too young/naive and unsupported(no supportive friends or family) to know what to do about it at the time. I was lucky nothing… Read more »

Feathered FishMM Member
Feathered Fish

Yep, as a woman of a certain age i’ve been harvied heaps. It is important to remember that women are the prey here yet we feel complicit and perhaps contributing in some way which is crap. I feel strongly about this because as a pretty young thing you are made to feel that your very existence is the catalyst for the behaviour of men. Personally I believe that men are not animals, they are human beings who have control of their impulses and actions and these sub humans need to be outed for their narcissistic behaviour. There is a real… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

But the Hollywood machine- and many other men who made millions looking the other way, enabling feeding this disgusting beast.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

and the music industry. I’ve been harassed by male and female R&A reps and a label owner.
When I turned her down she tried to blacklist me. Same old crap over & over again.

WOOHOOMM Member
WOOHOO

I’ve been Harvied in every job I’ve had, since I started working at 15 years. I’m too friendly and very petite. Somehow men take my generalised friendliness, ignore the fact that I treat everyone the same as them, think I’m interested in them only and have a crack. Horse blinders. I don’t take much nonsense though, so they soon learn not to keep it up. My mother too. I remember one day she came home from a job interview for a small company where the owner said she could have the job if she would have sex with him.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

same here, petite and very young looking so I attracted creepy pedophiles and still do. ugh…
why do these guys exist? why so many of them?

Melissa MelitaMM Member
Melissa Melita

Harveys, Harveys everywhere…! The “Baby, I’ll make you a STAR” line, whispered with a breath smelling of alcohol and tobacco, every girl must have heard it by now. And felt those sweaty, curious hands. It must be our eyes still full of dreams, that makes them believe they have a chance. I would actually lower the age for harveying to 16, at least. Even lower, for the really low Harveys. It’s so sad, and I would be lying if I’d say that I have not met more than my fair share of Harveys in my teenage years (natal Mars square… Read more »

HermeswitchMM Member
Hermeswitch

I’ve been harveyed. Coming out of the surf as a thirteen year old girl. Applying for a job and getting to second interview to be locked in an office with everyone knowing their role to get me in there but me having to figure out quickly what was going on and work smart to get myself outta there. Great term, Mystic. Going to write a column on this. Thanks xx

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