Lilith In Capricorn Is Coming

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Ten more days until Lilith is in Capricorn…for nine months and to be joined by Saturn from Christmas. Last time the Rebel Queen was in the sign of the Sea Goat? Nine years ago. She runs in cycles of nine. Could Lilith, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn for a big chunk of 2018 favour feminism? You bet. Think also a la the primordial, Pagan, loner energy of Lilith merging with structured, stoic Emperor Saturn.  More in the November Horoscopes up in a few hours.

 

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thelovelyduckling
thelovelyduckling

Nine years ago, I left my job like a Rebel Queen. I filed a complaint against my boss with the head of HR and directed my letter of resignation to my boss’s boss. I was completely over that job, and my Cap Moon and Lilith no longer wanting to play nice with those who didn’t deserve it. I’m sure I’m on some kind of secret blacklist in a hidden set of red files, never to be employed there again. A mutual colleague once told me my former boss referred to me as an ‘instigator’ and warned my colleague against associating… Read more »

Pi
Pi

I’m vibing some Eris in here too. Some sites refer to this goddess / deity / archetype as the whistleblower and is therefore in the habit of coming up against / showing up crummy power structures. Crummy power structures don’t like being called out one way or another, so you know how it goes.

Pi
Pi

Unless I’m just over-identifying with the cap moon, haha

Rachel
Rachel

Oddly enough, my Partner’s Natal Lilith is Cap, on my Saturn in Cap–

(yes, Saturn Return)

While his Saturn in Libra is also on my Lilith in Libra

S
S

It was always fear that drove my creativity away. The power to craft and create, that’s my centre. This will be interesting and I feel and see the healing that is happening. In my 9th year of life I was sexually abused by my father, I put that into the black hole of my memories. Never to return except trauma has a way of impacting your future. I had found solace in my creativity and being around animals. I was always quiet and shy afraid of making mistakes and copping the fall out. As always this community makes sense to… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

ugh…like a physical injury…you tend to ‘favour’ that area. Defend it a bit more and it tends to take a toll on your physiological and psychological make up.

S
S

@Powderfinger your insightful words are very true. I know this sensitivity comes from an ancient wound from a previous life. A ghost from the womb. That hence is the dichotomy of my dilemma – to see the struggle and the strain and the continuing feelings associated with the past flickering in my future. I can say that I feel a strength in my future but that is so new for me to say. For the longest time, my dreams were filled with the pain of my past. I will never be free of them but that’s where I am realising… Read more »

Pi
Pi

<3

S
S

Cap Moon salutations dear Pi <3

Jokerman
Jokerman

BML has just gone past opp to my natal Gem BML which is smack dab on my 12th cusp. A very mutable position. The only others in the top half are Moon n Chiron. Still trying to digest it all.

Broadly related, l think, is that nurse, who was frog marched to the police car, got a big payout. He won’t do that again…now that he’s not a cop.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

This has made me excited about the Capricornian Plutonian vibes! BIG TIME

It’s gonna happen all up in my 5th soooooo in ter est ing

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Lilith in Cap….wowwww….grounded anarchic power. Me likee.

firecow
firecow

I have Lilith in Aries, first house, alongside my ascendant. Needless to say, wherever I go, the bitch comes with me. I love her, even though she is trouble, plus a handful, and cranky AF when her independence and outrageous space needs are not met. I also have a Capricorn midheaven and a bazillion planets in Taurus, so I see it as a powerful, but stroppy earth year for me .

Venusian_Liaison
Venusian_Liaison

My Lilith Return! <3

Rubent
Rubent

She’s a coming! Haha spent part of last night talking with a friend about Lilith (first time) and he and I shared our stories regarding her which felt so interesting. She came up organically. We both have a Capricorn stellium, his in the 5th, mine in the first, he’ll be having his Lilith return in Cap which is conjunct my Neptune and moon and my Lilith conjuncts his Leo Asc. Both of us aqua suns. In a nutshell it’s not much like staring into a mirror but an alternate timeline of my ego embodied when I’m with him. It’s a… Read more »

Suddenly Leo
Suddenly Leo

That’s so fascinating – nine years ago, I had just gotten married a few months before and was making some big career moves right around now (I hijacked an organization – appointed a Board of Directors whose first move was to boot the Prez and install me, then I demoted them to the Board of Advisors).

My husband-at-the-time said he didn’t like my focus on my career and I was like, “I didn’t ask.”

#LilithInCapricornTransit

Lindsey
Lindsey

If Mystic is right about 2018 favoring feminism, we should all start preparing ourselves for a huge backlash. Because it will come, always has when women assert themselves/raise our voices. It’s the physics of interplay of energy field. A dominant energy never yields readily. There’s always some sort of explosion. Don’t say you were not warned.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

true…the PC movement is receiving a huge backlash atm.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

We can handle it.
We are the granddaughters of the witches you couldn’t burn.

LaFemma
LaFemma

As a Cap rising with lilith in the first house, I’m excited by all of these shifts and I’m curious to see what the return will bring next year. I’ve always been feminist but the kind that supports sex workers, slut walks, and intersectionality, to me it’s not a step up to succeed in a man’s world if that world isn’t serving the greater good. Always had zero tolerance for being treated like a piece of meat and would tear/elbow men’s hands off of me in clubs and so on. Lilith in the Cap can indicate problems with the father… Read more »

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Funny, I get the opposite impression – I actually see this as a constraining influence upon her. I think of all the signs, BML would be least comfortable in Capricorn and as a reflection of the Moon’s apogee, I feel there is merit to contemplating the Moon being in its Detriment in Capricorn. While they certainly are different bodies, my sense of BML is that she has never particularly liked the rule of buttoned-up Capricorn Patriarchy, which she’ll be donning the robes of for the foreseeable future. Contextually speaking, I’m also looking toward her square with Eris and thinking this… Read more »

Capintransit
Capintransit

There ain’t nothing like a strong capricorn with a helluva lilith thing going on …. especially if you’re a patriarchal, male dominant corporate kind of entity/person. You’ve got no chance … especially if she has mars in scorpio too and saturn and pluto are the henchmen. The world will be interesting ….

Pandora
Pandora

Hey Lib Venus
Wasn’t going to comment, but your first sentence sums up my gut feeling about how BML in Cap is gonna play to a tee.

Pi
Pi

Any thoughts on Lilith conj Pluto with a sort of square to Eris later next yr? Maybe activated by inner planets? Eris does seem to feature in some major take-no-prisoners moments
Such slow moving outer planets not sure of a thing but maybe Hmm not sure
I realise that I mentioned her below as well, I don’t think I’m starting a campaign but then again maybe I am , hmm

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

I was taking BML’s proximity to Pluto into account when mentioning Eris & how I think it will manifest as a divide in the Feminist ranks. Juno’s going to be in the vicinity of Eris as well, and I have a feeling all the ladies involved are not likely to play nice together. As to triggers, Mars is usually a reliable place to look in most cases but he’ll be all wrung out of juice due the prolonged Rx in early Aquarius/late Capricorn, so will be too far away to make aspect. Since we’re talking women, I think the more… Read more »

moongoat
moongoat

Sorry,..but what are these “feninist ranks”? And how will they be divided any more than they already are under patriarchal concepts of power? A female-centred Lilith rebellion can embrace difference and (let’s see if it works) then apply Capricorn energy to redefine what it means to be powerful…ie not power over others but the power to do things together. There are too many critical issues that need to be addressed and the patriarchs are just too busy organising armies and hiring lawyers rather than than organising the working-bees we sctually need…

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

No answers or help only thoughts, as you mentioned: i’m feeling the same thing. Here’s my Lilith 10th conjunct Pluto 11th in Virgo Today at work i accidentally (though planned a couple of weeks ago, then my own prep swamped in administrivia) might have shown my team that they are more cohesive than they realised, and that there have been bigger pictures operating. I proposed a completely new bunch of mini-team ops to counter an as yet unnamed threat. I have been keeping it under wraps while worrying my head off whether i can lead the team to victory over…(jesus… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Want to add, the vague boss is Capricorn. Hope he responds to my team-fllanked strategic Mars in Capricorn. And if he doesn’t he will have to stop being so vague and butterfingered, and deliver a statement. Still not sure whether 2IC is Virgo,Cap or Scorp but despite my details fqery (vague or overly focussed) i know 2IC is onside, even if it appears to be questions and reminders. 2IC will do the work that convinces. Can you tell i just love the 2IC?? Always have, and will never blame for any ultimate decision. Because 2IC might be diplomatic but is… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Countriez have been invaded with less planning. Come and help me restore my Kombi.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

omg i have had my art courses cancelld and am looking for hands-on Mars outlet! YES! Teach me evrything! I might not be good at it all, but i can do the hard yards crappy work, no trouble, and love the whole process, if u got the patience to deal with my obtuseness and quickness.

Sag Rising will also adore the Kombi, and work with love and respect on it.

U got your work cut out for you, PF 🙂

emg
emg

I feel her more this time than last time. 2009 was a year to be my own woman and make a play in the business world, make money, strive, all those Capricorn things. Can’t say it was supported by many other planers as the following years have been dire. But if it means I can give things another go to get it right this time, then bring it on. This time I really want to do it on my own, no business partners, no other people’s ideas. Just authentic me. I wonder if I’ll face plant again??!?!?!

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I agree Lilith this time around seems more intense.
Good luck on your new adventure!
I started my business in 2009, not looking back at working for other’s again.

emg
emg

I started my business at 21 years old. Never worked as employed since and I believe I’d now be unemployable ! Was even told by an agent I’d not get hired as I’m way too strong and would upset regional managers as they’d fear me ?!?! So I gave that industry idea up too ! I think it’s mt Saturn on my asc that gives me this very straight almost Dom personality. But I’m a squishy gooey creature really.

skarab
skarab

Naaah, this time instead of face plant you will *plant face* -which is a Spanish expression (plantar cara) that means to face up to/defy/challenge what you need to overcome 🙂

emg
emg

Hey that’s a turn around ! Like that. Yes this time I’ll face up or land butter side up.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Will she upset the structures or rebuild them a la Capricorne? A shake up of accepted power paradigms has been evident, so I expect a re-build. A propos of work pressures, as i wondered aloud whether they were any worse than this time any year or whether there was a bigger or deeper issue, a man from my workplace lamented that the new upper management starting soon were mostly males, and that it was just such a bad look. They’re lovely people so I hadn’t thought that much about it, and was surprised by the real concern on his face.… Read more »

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I agree about small paradigms shifting. I can’t say I’ve noticed any trends switching in my office though.

skarab
skarab

This pic of Sigourney Weaver as Lilith/Saturn/Pluto/Capricorn is brilliant!… yikes..

emg
emg

Yeah I thought that too. perfect picture again MM.

MissDee
MissDee

This is awesome news! 9 years ago it was when I decided to divorce my now ex-husband and fell in love, though not reciprocated, but I’ll have Saturn (from early 2018 and on) and Pluto already in my 5th now, so at least no “time-wasting” relationships for me anymore, only the real thing or else. And to the whole feminism vibe and flow: yes to that. I have already joined a feminism group: we lanched the hashtag #quellavoltache (tha time when, but it’s a mirror of #metoo) right after our actress Asia Argento spoke about Weistein and we are NOT… Read more »

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

give ’em hell!

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Good on you!!

I saw footage of a beauty pageant in Peru when the bit happens where the announce there measurements instead they all have statistics on femicide and sexual abuse it was something else!

Alouetta
Alouetta

I just saw this! It’s amazing!

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

My Lilith return coming up! Fantastic. She is natally conj my moon and part of my grand earth trine.

Alouetta
Alouetta

Yay! Me too – Lilith return and part of my grand earth trine (with Moon and Mars). What does a Lilith return bode for you, sister-from-another-mister?
I’m dreaming of a job that brings me a whole bunch of money and autonomy. Ha! We’ll see.

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

Wow Lilith will power up that Mars and moon! My Lilith is exact conj my 5th house Cap moon, trined by Pluto-Uranus in Virgo and Jupe in Toro. I hope for massive creative success leading to financial autonomy, via hard uncompromising work. I am Sun-Saturn conjunct so very Capricornian in my outlook (sometimes too much). With Saturn heading for my moon-Lilith I suppose I am expecting solitude in some guise or other. Perhaps because Lilith is involved I will choose the solitude myself rather than having it forced upon me by Constable Saturn 🙂 How about you, Alouetta? What do… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

Sounds like you are ready for the grind! I wish you every success.

Tbh I just hope I become more myself, and more comfortable in my own skin. I have a feeling my future has solitude in it as well, but at the same time, some real opportunities to step up into my own (earthly) power. The only thing holding me back is me. I saw a Miles Davis quote somewhere the other day that sums it up:
‘Man, sometimes it takes you a long time to sound like yourself’.

davidl
davidl

In the last Lilith post Mille and I had a look at the original Lilith myth. Thanks cherry moon, or skarab 😉 anywho apparently this whole Lilith issue with god and adam started because she refused to have sex in the missionary position. Things got totally out of hand at that point and she was expelled from Eden or left whatever. She apparently then started birthing 80 or so children a day and ran amok. That’s a lot of mouths to feed and let’s just say social security were no help ! Well, Lilith, look at mooee, I have one… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yeh! If only it just boiled down to sex!

But at its core it’s about free agency.

davidl
davidl

So what your saying is, that it wasn’t the missionary position as such but being told to use it that really got her goat ? Now there’s the crux of many a breakdown in relationships, non. I will though disagree with you on the order of your argument. To me most issues usually do boil down to sex. I reckon if people have a healthy satisfying sex life everything else seems to fall into place and subjective concerns like levels of free will play a secondary role. Show me someone without the means to express love passion pleasure, sexually, equally… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

You would have thought being able to make films in a hugely profitable niche industry, being married to amazing partners, having the creative power to bring different craft workers together would not equal frustration of pleasure, sex or longing. That is not the reason or motivation behind the denigration of women seeking work. And i do not care to reason around the sociopathy of anyone who victimises people in such a calculated and repetitive and supported way. Why that is more important to understand than the impact on the victims is distastefully ham-handed and deaf, not to mention criminally self-serving… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Why..is a furphy, in my view.

davidl
davidl

Not sure what that has to do with my comment above ? Really not sure ?

marsbar
marsbar

I almost thought you were going somewhere interesting with your argument until it gets to sex being so important that it determines the happiness of men and women. Maybe for you..maybe for heteronormative folk…. that could be true. Don’t speak for asexuals and demis though. Plenty if them are not aggressive or negative. Their sexual chakra is channeled through art, music, and other callings…

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

great sex is a plus but not essential. Respect however is hot.

marsbar
marsbar

Respect is always hot! 🙂

davidl
davidl

I agree, whatever way, if it satisfies and elevates then that’s great.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Show me a girl or woman who will not get to achieve her own means of loving passionate pleasure, equally, because she has grown up without choice over who touches her body and when… …do i show you a sexual abuser? A woman or girl who channels that thwarted sexual energy as aggression rather than defeat, criticism of others rather than self-criticism? Are one in four women (only by the data, which varies depending on which authorities deal with it or report it publicly) prone to sociopathic behaviours due to sexual frustration, in direct comparison to the numbers of women… Read more »

Lilith
Lilith

Thank you for expressing how I feel. !!!!

David’s comment was the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.
Ugh!!!

davidl
davidl

You mustn’t read very much, calm down

davidl
davidl

I think you’ve taken my light hearted approach to the Lilith deal and turned it around in a really distasteful way. Either that or as I said above I don’t understand where the comment took you ?

moongoat
moongoat

This is a brilliant response. You’ve articulated so much I have read your comment over and over. Thank you Milleunanotte. It is indeed time for Lilith xx

skarab
skarab

I think it’s to do with power and owning it. Being ordered to always have sex in the missionary position is self evident of what is expected (symbolically) of the woman’s role to be. Sex In the patriarchy is used as a weapon of division and subjugation. The original power tool.

This is the opposite of it’s potential to bring healing & creative energy – which can only be achieved between individuals standing in their own full power. Power is what is at play – or the potential of that power.

davidl
davidl

Thank you, I’m pretty sure I was saying the same thing.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Well David, I’ve been celibate for over a decade now, and somehow i still manage to not channel my frustration into aggression, criticism and negative sociopathic behaviours.

In fact my friends, family and co-workers say I’m a really good human being with a kind heart.

I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick here

Jokerman
Jokerman

16 months feels like a decade..really 8 ‘active’ weeks in 4 years. An ache that never goes away. Intimacy? I crave that more.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Plus I’ve met a lot of partnered people who supposedly have healthy satisfying sex lives (according to themselves) who are sociopaths, narcissistic bastards, and generally immoral and nasty people.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

milleunanotte nailed it.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Agreed!

Beetle Juice
Beetle Juice

Always a pleasure, davidl.

Alouetta
Alouetta

I love that song!

davidl
davidl

Yeah, me too. I think his whole take on sex, relationships, his attitude and adoration of women was so enlightening for a lot of men. It was raunchy but respectful. He was my love guru back then.

Alouetta
Alouetta

He seemed like a perfect (horny) gentleman. I think it was ‘Kiss’ that did it for me – so egalitarian!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

And it was Cherry Moon.

davidl
davidl

Who is one of Skarabs alter egos. She let that slip in the same thread 😉

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Take ’em as they wanna be seen

Pi
Pi

Being all blissed out on hot sex is one thing, I’m sure if every man woman and child could just experience the universal consciousness through the appropriate match up of penises and vaginas in a consensual way then we’d all be sweet as

1. Find yourself in a position of power
2. Deny power exists

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Could Lilith, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn for a big chunk of 2018 favour feminism?
I frickin hope so!

I love Lilith — primordial, Pagan, loner energy pretty much describes my soul

My Lilith is in Saggo 8th house, opposite my Gem sun, and squaring Pluto and Chiron

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