Astrology, Aspergers and Uranus

Astrology and Aspergers seem unrelated. But are neurally different people explicable via astrology? Are Aspergers and associated ‘spectrum’ modes of intelligence just Uranian? As described here, the ADHD personality descriptions read like a list of Mutable characteristics.

After a plausible Mars in Virgo style rant re mismatched socks, a Scorpio male accused* me of being Aspergers. *I say “accused” as he sounded accusatory. I don’t think it is a crime. At first confused, I consulted this online list of traits, and I relate to a lot of them.

But they are all reactions and quirks that I have always thought of as broadly Uranian.

Astrology And Aspergers – Look To Uranus

That is, reflecting a strong dominance of astrological influences from the planet Uranus, the 11th House and the sign of Aquarius.  Uranus is my ruler – as i am Aquarius Rising – and it’s flanked by Mars + Pluto exact in the 8th House, so it is strong.  While Uranian people are not fantastic at fitting into the dominant social paradigm, they’re the inventors, activists, circuit breakers, and creatives. And, they don’t want to fit into that paradigm anyway.

Maybe it’s society, education, the economy, and politics that needs to change?

My doctor, who is highly Uranian, thinks it is a “new mode of intelligence.” Tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel (Mars + Moon + Pluto in aspect to Uranus) prefers to hire people from outside the neuro-typical ranks.

Now i have some new optics on my character traits. Could all those things that I thought of as broadly reflecting my Uranus-driven nature were blips on this so-called spectrum? Does astrology have some input to the Aspergers knowledge base?

Thoughts?

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Misty
Misty

My sister and I both have Aquarius moons and Aspergers. Our immediate family is very Aquarian/uranian as well. From DNA testing (just as important as your astrological chart 😉 ) we have genes associated with autism coming from both sides of the family. The most interesting to me were the OXTR genes—we have a lack of oxytocin receptors in our brains, which is the “cuddle hormone”—it leads to relationship bonding, sociability and eye contact, which people on the spectrum tend to have trouble with. However, low oxytocin has cognitive benefits. It sounds an awful lot like an Aquarius moon :).… Read more »

Emilie
Emilie

I definitely think there is a Uranus connection… I’m an astrologer (and artist) and deeply interested in finding patterns in the charts of those of us that are on the spectrum. From the charts I have looked at (which aren’t really that many to have a clear view yet, and would really like more charts and data to have a better understanding and more thorough research) Uranus seems to often be in ‘hard’ aspects (conjunction, square, quincunx, opposition)—to Mars, Mercury, Moon, Sun, and the Ascendant, or Uranus is unaspected to other planets in the chart—and/or a 6th, 4th, 9th, and… Read more »

Misty
Misty

Very interesting! I’m an aspie with mercury conjunct Uranus, moon square Uranus. Oh and moon is in Aquarius and I’m a Leo rising. My Venus is also exactly conjunct the galactic center @26° Sagittarius, which I saw linked to Aspergers on another forum. Oh and like you, I love astrology because of my obsession with finding patterns in things 🙂

Wish Upon a Star
Wish Upon a Star

My gut feeling is that you are right with the hard aspect to Uranus. I have Sun in Gemini sq Uranus. Uranus in the 7th house. But my moon in Taurus is trine Uranus. So that may soften it.

My brother is am Aquarian with 4 other planets in Aquarius. The image that comes to mind is a hot air balloon with him stuck to the ground lounging in the basket eating fine food and wine. One strong gust and his off.

HowdyhihiMM Member
Howdyhihi

(I say autism, because Aspergers no longer exists as a diagnosis, and its all just a spectrum, anyway). Yes, so much strong uranian energy there, however do not discount martian energy in all this. Autism in my family is the synergy between uranus and mars. My son, aries rising, was diagnosed as autistic at a very young age. This did not come as a surprise, as he is just like my father. My father is a whole post onto himself. He is the uber-Aries. Aries sun, moon and I think also rising. You once posted the Aries-nation rules. Yep. Everything… Read more »

Pi
Pi

this is really interesting…
I decided to do a search to see if there was info about what autism feels like. Because I actually have no idea what it means, from day to day, to have autism. I found a 2016 article by Lori Sealy who writes about ASD, she’s amazing. Her description was really helpful as a starting point to understand. thanks for the prompt, howdyhihi..

GreenWitchMM Member
GreenWitch

Sorry, the quote was – to accept and appreciate the infinite spectrum of being.
Rather lovely, I thought.

monte
monte

It’s a shame that autism and Aspergers are linked. I do understand the spectrum thing, but for some, having a child with autism can be a real trial. With the vaccination debate going gangbusters here in Australia, I hesitate to mention the so called links between autism and vaccine damage. It just seems to end up in a bun fight with accusations flying every which way. Suffice to say, that as a craniosacral therapist with nearly 30 years experience I have seen numerous babies, children and adults on the spectrum and, it would have to be close to 100% of… Read more »

GreenWitchMM Member
GreenWitch

UM, wonder if you have thought of putting your clinical experience in a format that might be effectively included in this debate? But also have to say, I’m a bit taken aback by the decisive judgement offered in your comment re the author. I was under the impression that MM (if that is who you refer to) was offering an alternative perspective on a condition/state of being to the mainstream. Not to diminish it in anyway but – as someone here put so delightfully – to embrace the spectrum of our difference

monte
monte

GreenWitch, I just made a comment re autism and my clinical experience. I’m not sure what you are suggesting re being effective in the debate. What debate? The vaccine debate? Mystic, you have given away enough hints over the years, for me to pretty much have worked out your chart. Not exact but close. I did it years ago, but that wasn’t my point. My point is that we all have Uranus, Pluto, Neptune, Saturn etc in out charts. They are powerful players in people’s charts. Sometimes the most powerful planet IS the unaspected one! We are a whole and… Read more »

monte
monte

And I know that whole Aspy thing is kinda cool atm, and I just don’t get it. Most people find it incredibly difficult, especially the problems with relating to other people.

PiMM Member
Pi

I know I do go on here, but can i recommend a book some might find interesting, “What about me? The struggle for identity in a market-based society” by Paul Verhaeghe. He is a psychothererapist and the book was originally published in the Netherlands, it reflects his european perspective rather than (say) british or american. I think the perspective is constructive..

Jokerman
Jokerman

try saying that name with a mouth full of Spekulaars.

PiMM Member
Pi

Its probably easier…

KelMM Member
Kel

All this makes me wonder if diagnoses from the DSM IV would be more prevalent in different astrological signs or in aspects to planetary bodies? Please also no offence intended, I probably meet the criteria for most of these 😉 just curious about it now

OCD – Virgo
Asperger’s – Aquarius
Antisocial personality disorder – Scorpio
ADHD and oppositional defiant disorder – Aries
Depression and eating disorders – Taurus
Borderline personality disorder and attachment disorder- cancer
Narcissism – leo
Bipolar – Gemini
Schizophrenia – pisces
Separation anxiety disorder – Libra
Tourettes and conduct disorder – saggittarius
Fetishistic disorder and insomnia – Capricorn

gemyogi
gemyogi

Ha ha I definitely fit the Aries, Taurus and Gem ‘disorders’ listed here

davidlMM Member
davidl

Yes I definitely have oppositional defiance disorder. I’ll do just about anything for people, but please don’t tell me I must do something because then I just can’t. Of course this works both ways, tell me I can’t do something and godamit I’ll move heaven and earth to show you i can.
So mature 😉

PiMM Member
Pi

i can relate to this. “Oh yeah? I”ll show YOU”

PiMM Member
Pi

i’d consider BPD for pisces – the agony and the ecstasy. or, old school ADD (sans hyperactive). which I propose might be a manifestation of a strong but un-recognised (or difficult to attend to) neptune or chiron transit

Jokerman
Jokerman

Definitely not me.

Oh, thats’s right I left My Moon in the 7th and my Neptune in the 4th and my Asc.

So I had disordered convo with the people at Border Security and they told me I was deluded!!!. ME….!!!!

monte
monte

ADHD is definitely Gemini. There was a study recently saying that ADHD might have something to do with kids being the youngest in their class with a large difference between those born in July compared to those in June – the school cut off date. No mention of Gemini of course.

Have treated many ADHD kids – at least 50% or perhaps more have been Gems. My advice to parents is that school IS boring and your child doesn’t lack attention. Rather the opposite, they are attracted to everything. They take it in and if it’s boring, they move on.

motherofunicornsMM Member
motherofunicorns

My aqua daughter and I (Pisces with aqua rising) are on the spectrum. I think the traits are very Uranian but the difference is the intensity and the fact that they interfere with everyday life tasks. Much of the research on girls and women with autism has only been published in the last 5 years. It’s quite different to the stereotypes. It’s not a stigma to me but it does present challenges that are invisible to others and difficult to express. We do just fine in the right environment.

emgMM Member
emg

My Aqua chap processes the world his way. Hears his own internal dialogue not what’s incoming and then has become shunned by his peers. He’s also left handed, dyslexic and ‘doesn’t play well with others’. I simply see him as aquarian frankly. He’s a clown, funny, very bright, super fast, capable of sorting anything and has far reaching ideas. He’s not normal but then who is ? I also have a number of those traits in the article, mostly from childhood which I now seem to have a handle on. I’m also far from normal…I only really like those who… Read more »

Catfish moon
Catfish moon

My uber Aquarius son, sun and Uranus conjunct in Aquariusin the first hous plus Mars and Jupiter conjunct in Aquarius in the 2nd, is Uranian, but not air/AS at all to me.

His Pisces sun brother is. He has Neptune conjunct Lilith and Mercury conjunct Uranus, all in Aquarius in the first house. I have suspected he had aspergers for awhile, but his recent diagnosis of bipolar makes tons of sense.
His Pisces sun twin with same aqua placements in first house as well is not aspie at all. Nor does she have bipolar.

redjavaMM Member
redjava

Heads up that Asperger’s is no longer a recognized diagnosis per psych community. Everything is ASD/autism spectrum disorder. The new DSM-V reconstructed this to avoid minimizing/maximizing and in-group/out-group thinking. I think, as a psychology professional, there are significant differences between true deficits in social interaction/communication/mental organization and idiosyncratic ways of being. I strongly dislike it when people say things like “I’m/You’re so bipolar/ADD/autistic”. This stigmatizes people with true, lifelong struggles and makes their oppression sound like frivolities. Yes, we all want to categorize each other…it’s easier and helps us make quick decisions…but there’s a world of difference between being Uranian… Read more »

redjavaMM Member
redjava

Still, I believe. There is so much overlap between the constructs of astrology and psychology. Science so frequently rejects the mystical though its heart is our desire to know the unknown.
& we do all have traits that could be labeled disordered or problematic.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

So agree. My father in law has lost all his friends, his natal family (he moved to avoid the shaming), his marriage to his disability. His struggles are so monumental. Quirky is a shallow way to describe his disability by people who know him at a minimal level. It’s not quirky to not remember basic social survival tools. He is not Uranian, he is doing his best to cope and the costs are staggering. He is very spiritual though and I believe this helps him tremendously.

VirgonatorMM Member
Virgonator

Have you looked at the research showing increases in stigma the more that mental illnesses are seen as diseases of the brain versus variations of normal? I found it so interesting, since Western culture believes it will reduce stigma by doing the opposite. I don’t think, based on that research, that stigma is increased by the casual use of such words, but I think sometimes real struggles can be trivialized. My ex lives in a house full of garbage because his OCD makes it too overwhelming to touch it. That’s a far cry from me self-describing as OCD for hanging… Read more »

marsbar
marsbar

I am glad women who resonate with the label aspie have more resources to turn to and get support these days. But honestly the list reads like one of those …you might have candida checklists that lumps just about every weird symptom in there as a catch all. I don’t think the list is particularly Uranian to me. I also see hints of Neptune. What i mostly see I see as Meyers Brigg XNFX . Many people who identify mostly as INFX and even some ENFX will have theses problems and traits because of sensory processing issues. That doesnt nean… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

I wanted to add a comment about this and I’m glad you did, although I would have said INTX ppl. The the traits my mother has are basically related to her being strongly introvert – so much so that when I (finally, 28 years later, Pluto square I guess) related my experience of being groped by a “family friend” as an adolescent, (he’s dead now yay!) she was more concerned that I not tell his still- living wife, so as not to upset her, you see, and then also took two full days and me actually dragging myself out of… Read more »

marsbar
marsbar

You’re right! I forgot to include, INTX as well as some ENTX. They also have trouble!! Good catch!

…and ZOMG! The years of having to stay silent about a grievous incident! Wtf! >:( angry for you, but i do understand that NT mindset bent on survival in a perceived hostile environment. In that day and age (and even now) it would or could be made into “your fault” and then the resultant fall out.

PiMM Member
Pi

Sorry to go on up there – am feeling a bit bad about that rant now
The INTs I know (I’m an EF..usually lol) unless other mitigating factors , while sooper intelligent also tend to be hardass in the parenting stakes, more of the “just get over it” vibe rather than whatever else
Wow life sure is fun on this here rollercoaster haha

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

This was the area I’d be most likely to have something to add to, looked at virgo scopes for today first because I got deeply anxious and was like, yeah maybe not today. Read the list. Gonna go rock back and forth for an hour or two.

LibraLilithMM Member
LibraLilith

Sun and mercury (chart ruler) conjunct Uranus in my first house (plus mars in Aqua) and have often been described, though not diagnosed, as a bit aspergian.
Anyone intelligent, individual and direct seems to be described that way now. I prefer Uranian.

PiMM Member
Pi

All other things aside, I think a workplace populated entirely by non neurotypical ppls as MM mentioned would be kind of amazing actually.

KAKMM Member
KAK

Dear Mystic this is plainly a case of male bullying. You do not need to defend yourself in any form to a man who is clearly just trying to gain power over you which unfortunatly is male typical behaviour! Anyone who refers a normal domestic issue to being on the spectrum is clearly trying to fck with your head and is at its most basic form just Palin rude as well as politically incorrect towards people with such a condition. This man clearly should check his behaviour keep ranting long and loud about mismatched socks – I recently met a… Read more »

navya
navya

I come from a family of uranian moon types aspecting many things of prominence in the chart & most of us are on the spectrum some VERY much so… I love our ‘traits’ haha only thing would be that some are more emotionally mean/vindictive/gone, etc can be so harsh/painful.
great topic 🙂

SheRatMM Member
SheRat

Ultra Aqua (Sun, NN and Merc, all conj. in 5th) and Uranian (Conj. Moon in 1st) here and yeps. Re: your connection with tech, in Essef, it’s dismaying to see peeps emulating these traits in order to be perceived as genius geeks.

Jokerman
Jokerman

A true Uranian goes like a Porsche but looks like a VW Beetle.

Greenwitch
Greenwitch

HMMG (Holy Mary, Mother of God)! That online list of traits had me going yeah, yeah, yeah. Aqua rising and Chiron in Aqua. But while it is useful to give a name to something – eg gaslighting as an abuse of power in relationships (wish I’d known that one years ago) – there is always the issue of differing definitions and our responses to them (eg a hysterical woman or a justifiably angry one).
In general, I avoid labels. They always leave a mark on your clothes.

davidlMM Member
davidl

I agree. As Mille said above, it’s much better to accept and appreciate the infinite spectrum of being than to constantly be compartmentalising everyone. By always attempting to define we lose the nuance, the hidden secrets and inner workings of life itself. It’s not a very intelligent approach or one that gives room for growth. In fact it’s the source of most discrimination in our society.

marsbar
marsbar

Said well davidl! An infinite spectrum of being! Yesss!

gemyogi
gemyogi

also, labels are soooo itchy and annoying (on one’s clothes, and in life generally) 😀

missksbMM Member
missksb

So much yes to this…….when my son was diagnosed (I prefer to think he was sorted by the “sorting hat” ) into the aspie corner, I remember sitting there thinking oh, no he’s a double aqua with a lot of other Uranus in him, he’s ok, he’s just himself, marching to his own beat 🙂

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

my ex ‘accused’ me of having aspergers…i freaked at first….for a long time i thought there was sthing ‘wrong’ with me…but there isnt, im highly sensitive.
prefer socialising one on one than to grps, love alone time…the socialising thing is hard to balance…

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

uranus opp ascendent
uranus saturn square
uranus trine mars…,

davidlMM Member
davidl

You’re a treasure x you’re one of the gang here that comes across as very authentic, honest, to me. Socializing one on one is really the important type, right ? The group thing is more political and strategic and on a social level I usually find that totally boring.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

aww thankyou Davidl.
you’re right, i totally hate bullshit, i am pathologically honest…authentic…must b my aries moon! x

gemyogi
gemyogi

Aries rising Taurus moon, mercury, mars — also hate bullshit and fakery

Jokerman
Jokerman

I think the very reason we are here that we all seek authenticity ……..and 100% cotton sox as well as all-natural clothing and footwear.

gemyogi
gemyogi

You sound like an introvert to me… also hate ‘socialising’ btw

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

I ticked a few boxes but the article explained my work mate down to a T. She does have two sons that are aspie, I now know why. Especially to complete zoning out and revealing WAY to much detail…continually! Great article too I might add.

VSLR
VSLR

My birthday today. Don’t really want to go all out and celebrate – dark moon? Or the sun sq saturn stuff yesterday?!

Life has been good this past year. Let’s see how this year unfolds…excited!!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Happy birthday!

Jokerman
Jokerman

My Aunty said l suffered from acronyms before they were named. Ppl think I’ve studied to know all the stuff l know. Stuff just goes into my head via osmosis. I get really annoyed when journos write stuff that shows a paucity of knowledge in relation to the topic they are writing about. I put it down to my 1H Sun in Cancer, 7H Moon in Aqua (my dominant Chart-Ruler & ‘Bucket-Handle’) & 1H Uran in Leo Mutual Tri-Receptivity. Amplified by Merc cj Uran & having the NN in the 3rd. Everything I’ve read about the Sun and Uranus in… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

remembering too, that to function ‘normally’ just means (to me!) that you’re accepted as an economically productive citizen who obeys rules, nothing more – so being neurotypical or normal or whatever it’s called really ain’t shit in the bigger picture of human functioning and world at large

Jokerman
Jokerman

I once booked a trip to Normalcy but was deported straight away.

PiMM Member
Pi

it helps to have a phrasebook?

gemyogi
gemyogi

Screw normal, be unique!!

It’s never been one of my goals

Centaurus
Centaurus

I like matching pegs on the line. I attribute it to what’s pleasing to the eye, my aesthetics thing and Venus rulership. It’s part of my life as art philosophy. MC Aquarius | Lilith hanging in Aquarius 9th | Uranus 4th

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Well, I know quite a few Aquarians with gut issues, mental health issues etc which are relevant to the discussion of ASD . My very ASD son is strongly Uranian: Moon-Chiron-Neptune-Jupiter in Aqua. But my Aspergers Sagg-in-law is very Saggi indeed with a Virgo Moon. And then I am not well versed in medical astrology, but I have read that the immune system is governed by Pisces. Since a huge portion of mothers of autistic kids have auto immune issues, maybe we can look for Neptune in the equation (or you know, those who vaccinate, those who respond particularly badly… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

i wonder if the appeal of the STEM disciplines is because it very specifically (traditionally) does not mandate smooth-as-silk social functionality in order to be good at what you do. The most brilliant discoveries required leaps of logic, tenacity, an inquiring mind and experimental processes that benefit v much from not sticking to info norms etc..

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Yes I agree, though in the case of the Saggi Aspie he was not capable in STEM unlike other family members. He found his niche in technical translation and languages through sheer obsessive non-stop work. Almost hasn’t moved from a chair in 30 years. Computers have taken over his role as a technical translator as has happened in many roles in which Aspies could flourish unfortunately. Saggi refuses to acknowledge this and will work days for pennies. He doesn’t understand when he is wrong, inappropriate or has pulled the rug from under others in the ‘guild’ so he has lost… Read more »

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Despite being a strictly inner planet person, with precious little Uranian influence in my chart.. 😉

NinanotsosmallMM Member
Ninanotsosmall

Hi! I’m not on the spectrum, but always interested in other ppls experience of this world.
This writer is Autistic, so uses Tarot and Numerology to navigate her life and it’s great: Madeleine Ryan.
She said something along the lines of “I don’t know what I want and I have no idea what others want.”
Totally Relate. XD

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I am an under-the-radar Aspie (mostly because I don’t fit the male stereotype version) and an Aqua. 😀 I do think that there is some overlap between the ‘typical’ traits of Uranians/Aquas and Aspies!

VirgonatorMM Member
Virgonator

My brother has Aspergers, and is very much not Aquarian. He’s a Virgo with Leo Moon and Scorpio rising. But his Aspergers is a lot of getting overwhelmed very quickly by all the details he sees – not the “talking like a machine.” It’s true that he sometimes doesn’t understand human nuance (“Is Mom there?” “Yes.” … [he hangs up on me, not realizing I wanted more than this piece of information]), but in general he’s having a lot of trouble with his many emotions overflowing in light of how much he’s taking in, not that he’s operating robotic. So… Read more »

Ariel
Ariel

I can think of a few aspie spectrum friends & they are all profoundly Uranian – one is an aqua, the other two are genre-bending one-offs, real stand-out personalities, way ahead of everyone else. There’s an online quiz you can take! I’m way too empathic & gooey to be an aspie, but they do share some traits with HSPs (that’s me). Think my first love has autistic traits, absolutely brilliant mind & the ability to express it in prize-winning, highly respected & influential writing. Venus sq Saturn tho so believe me that was no picnic. Unempathic to steely proportions: as… Read more »

VirgonatorMM Member
Virgonator

I should have read this post first – HSP/autism overlap is an interesting one. Some real similarities and in some ways total opposites.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Interesting to note the difference in HSP/empath because I suspect I am both whereas my daughter is more the first one. I thought they alway went together, but I guess not.

NanMM Member
Nan

hmmm, the difference between being ‘artistic’ and ‘autistic’ is the ‘ur’

Ariel
Ariel

Hehe!

vikingwomanMM Member
vikingwoman

His Uranus is in his 10th house! Close to his MC! Dang it!

vikingwomanMM Member
vikingwoman

My son was diagnoses wirh Asperger Syndrome at 5. He is a Taurus rising 29° and his Uranus is in Aqua in the 19th trining his Mars in Libra IIRC in the 5th. Mercury is on the Descendant line in the 7, along with his Sun in Sadge..and Pluto also forms a kite ? in Sadge to the Uranus and Mars…Speaking is very.challenging to him…wants to speak.in gramatically correct sentences and often starts and stops in a sort of stuttering. He doesnt really make sense, but he learned how to make good rhetorical points from youtube commentaries. He is very… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

I can understand this. I’ve actually described my mother and sister of having “Aquarius aspergers” in my more profoundly exasperated moments – Geminian nails it, you literally just can’t connect at the vital level needed to ‘feel’ / be ‘seen’ ‘as a person’. I put this in quote marks as taking the piss out of one’s own sentiments has – for me – been literally (yes) the only way for them to start to register what you’re saying (you’re just a concept, remember). At other times the rise-above detachment is blissful and when I can embrace my own air elements… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

For statistical purposes, I think my mother wins the uranian stakes in my circle though. Aqua rising, 5 planet Gemini, with Uranus exact conjunct mercury, in her 4th house and a loaded 7th. Her professional passion? Fairness in family relationships. The two aquas I know (the surgeon and my mum) whose chart ruler is situated closely with Sun or something personal – are very dedicated operators whose ability to Not get enmeshed in other peoples lives – to remain professionally detached but also focused and adept – is exactly what they need in their calling to succeed.

dark starMM Member
dark star

so interesting! My dad an aqua too, a brain doctor so kind of Uranian but more emotional / personable?? (Saggo asc and Leo moon)
I speak his language most of the time as a Mercury in aqua but sometimes feel way more understood emotionally by my scorped moon mom. That sounds rly hard though, a total Uranian family!!!

Dated an aqua for a blip- we got on super well on a mind front but I couldn’t handle the non emotions -I’m way too watery for that heh. I did not “feel seen”.

PiMM Member
Pi

Yeah, funny though, no idea how it looks from the outside but my 4th house and lunar everything spells out “Raised By Wolves” so my DIY relationship skills does probably looks a little rustic lol re dating… yes.I think it’s the gap between being happy to be friends with a uranian but take three big steps back when I detect the “Error: Missing .dll. Abort / Retry?” in the connection (see what I did there, uranians) It’s like buying back into my childhood – there’s a lot of me that the connection will just gloss over – because the ’emotional… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

fwiw the ”love languages’ thing is relevant and i do get that

dark starMM Member
dark star

YES same, undercurrent of emo support was not there or was intermittent despite love and all physical needs taken care of. And yes it’s almost impossible to explain to some, and I can just tell mid explanation if it’s not computing

PiMM Member
Pi

and i’m sure the reverse is true too as many commenters here have described their experiences – the little uranian kidlet being ostracised or lampooned because they’re speaking a different language too.

Comprehending the totality of Difference and accepting this is I think / hope one of the lasting *positive* run-on effects of saturn in sadge?

PiMM Member
Pi

my dad had Leo rising, Darkstar – maybe the fire helps with the interpersonal something a bit?
air and earth combos seem to be trickier

jjt4732MM Member
jjt4732

Moon in Aquarius here- my dad ‘accused’ me of having Asperger’s. I accuse him of being emotionally abusive and avoid him at all costs.

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

My daughter has a lot of Uranian energy in her chart. She’s been accused by peers of being broken. She will never fit in. I love it. To me, it’s like a different frequency not a condition, but I do see how others perceive it as such. She has a 12th house Taurus moon and has visions of lives beyond this one. Whereas my visions are of timelines and afterlives hers are of intergalactic colonies and lives as alternate species. She has a deep compassion that is warm yet impersonal. Tons of acquaintances but few to no friends. I adore… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Lovely 🙂

davidlMM Member
davidl

She’s a blessing to the world and probably the next x

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Aw. That’s a kind statement and I am inclined to agree but I am not so sure about that. She also remembers being a serial killer 🙂

AquaMoon
AquaMoon

Just wanted to raise my glass to Samantha Craft! Love that she is bringing awareness to autism/aspergers in females and helping the discussion along. People contributing to society like her make my heart swell.

AquaMoon
AquaMoon

I didnt mean that comment to go here… i was going to say here earlier that i just love this post X

Starbaies
Starbaies

I really resonate with your description of your daughter, though I am sure we are very different still. Uranus on my Sun and Uranian moon emphasized as chart ruler. Im thankful for you describing it as a different frequency rather than a condition. That has been what Ive been trying to get across to people my entire life. To me its not much different than someone – just for example – labelling races other than caucasian as “non-caucasian” – its ignorant and discriminatory, as if there is a global normality box we are supposed to fit into. I dont buy… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

We have sim-sames.

VSLR
VSLR

Happy Birthday to you! I share my birthday with you and someone else on here. Wishing you both an awesome year ahead! X

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Not sure if this was intended for me, but my birthday is on the 13th so thank you!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Same here with the Mom thing. I remember telling my feelings to my Mom when I was around 11/12 and her telling me they were bullshit. It impacted me – no one person’s feelings lie – they just are. She could have had any response but that one. Tell me how to cope then, you know? Not just bullshit and done. Its tempting as a parent to do. I mean, we do wipe butts and birth the thing and for years make decision-guesses as to how the mammal feels. But, we all have to grow out of that. One life… Read more »

Starbaies
Starbaies

I feel you with your mom experience. My mom didn’t deny my feelings but she never validated them either… all whilst expecting a strict set of behaviors around her. I’m approaching my 40’s and although I stopped expecting any of that to change awhile back, what was hardest for me to accept was that she loved and cared about me… I know now she does, she was just very ill equipped and not totally present for the handful of a child that I was. Yes, I am a handful 😛 Anyway, I’m trying to not let my subjective human experience… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

You are both blessed with each other, 12HV, truly. The idea of a frequency is so much more empowering and loving.

Imagine if ll Asperger’s diagnosed could be told in that way! “You resonate on this amazing frequency. May you ever be appreciated for it.”

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Thank you for the kind sentiments. I don’t know about appreciation. Are any of us really appreciated? Or do we learn to do without that sort of thing? I am kind of militant about attaining maximum self-efficiency which means liberation from opinion. She says I say “perfection or death” but I am sure I have never said anything so stupid. I must come off as severe though, for her to think I think such a thing. Or else, she just likes fuqing with my head – entirely plausible. 🙂

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Well, helping your child to attain maximum efficiency within their own frame is supreme appreciation! Of course, children truly appreciate their parents as people in general a lot later. But now, she knows you, and even if the reading in her mind is not your own wording, she is close to you and will in time value that closeness more deeply. I mean, how close do you have to be to truly fq with someone’s head 😉 (My fam all do it to me, it’s apparently teasing, and it definitely fqs with my 12th house sensitivities. Yet there they all… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Happy birthday, too, 12HV xx

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I’m with you MM

Most people I know who get “accused” of having Aspergers have a ton of Uranus/Aqua in their charts.

Anyway—Aqua to me always equal “genius” potential

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I kind of suffer from the opposite…

I am hyper empathic–something I associate with Kataka

Venus in Kataka…sigh…

But I’ve learned to manage it—channel the saggo moon

Jokerman
Jokerman

I suffer both.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

My Uranus is in 11th Libra (maybe i disrupt social graces) and trines my Aqua Venus 3rd communication).

Have definitely been called Aspergers type, though I’m not, i believe. And yes, it has often come as an accusation.

I’m not a genius, though.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

I dated a guy last year with Uranus rising. Very aspergers, very Uranian, very intelligent but I couldn’t be with him because underneath all the quirks was something very absent emotionally. Great at science and technology and whilst love was a concept they could come at intellectual, it wasn’t one in terms of connecting and a deeper level with another human being. Such is life.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

I love Aspies, BTW – I find their eccentricities endearing <3 My ruler (Venus) is OOB on top of the aforementioned Sun/Uranus action, so I think this goes quite a way towards explaining my preference for more unconventional, offbeat companions. My current BFF is an Aquarius (not an Aspie, though, LOL).

Ariel
Ariel

I’m very fond of them as friends & raconteurs too! Less so as lovers, I’m too empathic Mars in cancer moon-Neptune goo-goo to deal with aspects of their rationalism/ honesty when it comes to lurve…

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

I totally do think it’s Uranian. Without getting into all the details, let’s say I’ve dated my fair share of Aquarians and after the most recent one I’ll just say this theory seems totally plausible to me. Other than the difficulty w/ emotions thing (huge), it didn’t really bother me, TBH – I’m a Sun/Uranus kid and it’s one of the tightest aspects in my chart so meh; my philosophy is we’re all a little weird somehow! I’m all for embracing neural diversity – there are good and valuable people to be found on all ends of all kinds of… Read more »

davidlMM Member
davidl

I have a friend who at 50 was just diagnosed with aspergers. Personally I just think he’s way too intelligent and quirky for general society but the diagnosis seems to have been a relief for him. Labels help sometimes I suppose ? I think maybe every one is on the spectrum somewhere. This friends latest project was building from scratch a bespoke olive green 1965 convertible Mustang for a billionaire client. It’s taken 2 years and the price was $750k. He built every panel by hand, stitched the upholstery, redesigned virtually every component. This 65 mustang is not a reconditioned… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

And to think all that work was done on a V8 that has a discordant firing order.

davidlMM Member
davidl

I think he’s put a koenigsegg engine in it ?

Jokerman
Jokerman

The designers used an existing Ford block and reworked the entire internal componentry.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Wonder about Saturn placements, and aspects from Saturn to Venus, and Mars. Refinement and luxe, the craft of beauty, and the dedication. Labels may give a sense of having a place, rather than always being an outsider or misunderstood. Asperger’s and autistic people i know well are quite sensitive and love to have their work appreciated. Not too different from anyone else, i guess! But it seems like more of a battle for them since people around tend to need small talk and social stuff before they feel like validating that person. We can’t help but be who we are,… Read more »

davidlMM Member
davidl

Yeah I’m going to look into his Astro a bit more. He is single, no kids and his dad just passed. He’s been spending a lot of time with us and I’ve offered to help him grow his biz. He’s a truly worthwhile person and yes, my nature makes him laugh. In Hebrew culture they say you take on the attributes of the biblical character you were named after and David was always found communing with the outcasts, in that respect I do have a tendency to appreciate and get close to that group. I think it’s my 12th house… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

My middle son is Gem Moon- he had a horror of people not having a tribe when he was small. Always scooped up the awkward kids-

Starbaies
Starbaies

“Labels may give a sense of having a place, rather than always being an outsider or misunderstood.” Hmm. I hear you Mille, however a thought I want to share as a Uranian dominant type, is that I have a hard time accepting that this would be the case. I see where you are coming from and I see the truth in your statement(and there is), but I feel the statement there is more for the other side of the equation, not the Uranian. I dare say Uranians dont really go around looking for fitting into a place with others. The… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Yes i totally understand. I couldn’t re-craft my wording at all well, so i left it. I am thinking of the depression some Uranian types in my world have been experiencing. How can i put it? Less about acceptance by the tribe, and more feeling that how they approach their sense of task is a valid contribution. They seem gifted with a unique perspective to me, but i think they run up against so much negative feedback that creates limitation or blocks, including frustration from others, that best efforts often result in their own frustration. Er, still not articulating it… Read more »

Starbaies
Starbaies

I totally understand what you are saying here Mille. No apology or explanation needed, and thanks for your incredibly sensitive and thoughtful viewpoint throughout the thread btw. Not many care to linger or understand. If more people took the time to ponder re this as you do, I’m sure there would be a lot more well balanced, healthy, thriving Uranians in this world. 🙂

Starbaies
Starbaies

And not just Uranians but all hues of the human spectrum! 🙂

Della c CMM Member
Della c C

yay, am aspie and sagitarian, lots of crossovers there -the chronic foot in mouth, blunt, open, honesty etc… isms either way.

Della c CMM Member
Della c C

Wanted to mention that in Australia, two leading brains on female autism spectrum disorders are Tony Attwood and Tania Marshall. I saw Tania for assessment, and the whole process was so cathartic 🙂 A link to Tania’s site and her great books on female aspies:
http://www.taniamarshall.com/

ele
ele

I was just thinking exactly this! Right this second! Maybe I am in the autism or aspergers spectrum. Then I took the cell phone and open facebook and saw this.
I think that’s answer my question. And sometimes I think I don’t know like someone is listening my thoughts even or I am that connected with the whole. Thank you for your online wisdom!

rosie
rosie

Follow up response, I’ve just read the list (double Aquarius, btw) and I relate to the majority of it but again, I may be a bit odd but I don’t think that even to have ALL of those qualities qualifies as some sort of condition.

rosie
rosie

I’ve always thought that aspergers and autism are just misunderstood high levels of psychic sensitivity. Basically, as a few other people have sort of already said: characteristics which don’t conform to current societal norms and therefor must be ‘disorders’ and labeled and ‘treated’. I think it’s an evolutionary leap that those outside the spectrum can’t relate to.

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