At The Start Of Your Saturn Transit

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At the start of your Saturn transit (above) compared to near the end of your Saturn transit (below.).

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Catfish moon
Catfish moon

Saturn and sun conjunct Natally for me. I say get out often. Ha!!

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

As a scorp sun with sag rising, I feel like Saturn is my bestie now… Or maybe that’s my Venus is Capricorn talking.

Either way, I’m planning a thigh tattoo that says, “nous sommes nos choix” Once my hip flexors are satisfactorily sexy. Satres ftw.

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

Sartres… Sigh.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Will the writing face you, or face outwards?

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

Thinking it would follow the leg opening of a swimsuit. And face up and down if I were standing…

Kym
Kym

It’s been all about relationships for me – Gem Sun, Aqua rising. Have learnt a lot the hard way but also identifying and refining the techniques as I go through to hopefully last a lifetime.

Main advantage now is that I don’t do duty relationships, including family (or should that be especially family), and I don’t try to buy affection via gifts and shouting people for meals, wines, coffees, etc. Also stopped people coming in for the save: I can work this out and often the save is about them, not you.

em priceMM Member
em price

so real

emgMM Member
emg

I’m pretty good with Saturn these days. It’s on my asc in very late pisces 1st house. And transiting Saturn is just about to return again the my MC at the galactic centre. I’m expecting to be very busy for a couple of years.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Am into my final round of Saturn square my natal Pluto, then Jupiter, then Uranus. Tough love? Well, at least love remains in that phrase. Squares make you grow. Saturn takes that concept and ups it. Yep, get out anything that doesn’t belong to who you are. It’s the authenticity planet when all is said and done.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

My GAWD yes!!! Makes it all worthwhile…

Sankt Freundin
Sankt Freundin

Haha yes!! I’ve been on some pre-Saturn return since 2014 and WOOM this weekend I finally returned to my roots, to ME, The Annoying Sagittarian Truth Teller and Catalyst. Ah this is so much easier. Not wallowing over what people might think, just blurting the hard truths out in the least offensive manner. If it’s true, they can’t really say anything to it. Let people see the light. No matter how stingy the truth, it sets you free and moves you forward. Also applies to myself. I’ve also found a straight-talking friend. Despite all the Saturn, this weekend got it’s… Read more »

saggenieMM Member
saggenie

LOL

WOOHOOMM Member
WOOHOO

Man, Saturn is now past my natal Saturn – woo! Saturn transit madness for sure. That retrograde……*shudders*

So I’m on the borderline of both images…. out with the old…. flying fuq balls where do I go to now!?!

Capricorn ascendant at half a degree….. don’t know whether to be scared of Saturn into Cap, or to celebrate…… the end of me of me as I know it.

davidlMM Member
davidl

The ‘beginning’ and the ‘end’ ? The whole concept of past and future has always been tenuous but now it’s been proven to be disturbingly interchangeable.
I know this might be complex article but try and get the gist of it. It sort of changes the way we thought everything worked.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/07/basic-assumptions-of-physics-might-require-the-future-to-influence-the-past/

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Are you piscean now, Einstein? 🙂

davidlMM Member
davidl

Well yes, according to this math. Imagine that the brain, the mind, can ‘entangle’ photons, light. According to this math once they are released, by thought ?, they travel faster than the speed of light to anywhere on the timeline, where they can be observed by separate entities anywhere on that timeline. If for example one photon has travelled to the ‘future’ and is observed as red, the other, currently in the past will also become red. So, if I entangled a thought today, Einstein might get it tomorrow or yesterday and vice versa 🙂 This is a 5th dimensional… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

I was reading that the fundamental laws of physicls to not include the variable of time, t, in their equations. Of course being multidimensional beings of universal love and sub-material consciousness we already know this, but it’s nice to have it in black and white so to speak, so the engineers can start working on the next-gen transportation devices and so on.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Yes, it always annoyed me, but now I realise it has not been ignored. In fact it has been more thoroughly researched before allowing it in as a factor.

Einstein would definitely be pleased.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

I like the idea of retrocausuality, Ive had several instances where an “echo” of the future gave me a clear picture of how a situation would play out yrs ahead…not like a premonition or anything, (thats different like a flash) , just literally an energy wave that felt like an echo…too hard to explain, but this article confirms it for me anyway.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Yes, an echo, a wave that washes over you.
Means we can tap into anyone on the timeline, and them us.
The question remains whether this is a totally random process or whether we can be more specific.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

yehhh…..interesting. I wonder how to experiment with that?

sphinx
sphinx

Think we can experiment..but I can’t imagine sure control of retrocausality. Bur are we not like trees, connected at our roots to one another?

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Maybe you (and we) are doing it RIGHT NOW for our past selves??

I’ve been contemplating your question for what seems like ages but i note is one diurnal-ish. This notion suddenly blows me away! It is totally the Theory of Relativity. Those giant circles on the cover of the book, flanking the explanation inside. And so perfectly readable. That man was a great teacher! No high-falutin’ lose-you-lesser mortals, just metaphors and examples that anyone can grasp. (I mean, i love Hawking as well, but i get so lost).

Plum
Plum

Thanks, looking forward to reading this later. Time and its elasticity or otherwise has been the theme of my summer. Intergenerational relationships, midlife, younger/older versions of me, before/after tipping points… I happened to go to London, where I stood on the meridian line – arbitrary but all the more symbolic for it. I’ve lost my way in space-time and need to re-establish my coordinates.

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

“restablish my coordinates” love this

davidlMM Member
davidl

The Vedics would say to reestablish your ‘constitutional position in the universe’. This is so important.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Well, now you’re speaking to my 6th House. It’s Taurean ruled Saturn, and is a total shrinking bad, at times, on how i bunker down into habits and poor framing of my everyday alchemy, which is what i totally believe is the magic of the 6th, and can never get quite right.

MedicatrixMM Member
Medicatrix

I had to wrap my head around retrocausality when I trained in Traditional Chinese Medicine… Took me months to wrap my head around, but now it’s just part of my reality.

batshleyMM Member
batshley

Hahaha too true. We are getting almost to the 100 day countdown mark until Saturn enters Cap. My psyche has basically donned her gray sweats to continuously run up those steps to victory come mid December.

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

ha ha second Saturn transit coming up and I’m already at Get Out!

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

I hear you! On the other side of my Return. Feel like I aged 15 years in 2.

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

YES!

I just kicked the last one out, it’s been a long process but I get it 🙂

Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo 6th house

Virgonator
Virgonator

Is there an after Saturn? Does air and color and joy return? Or is it still like now, where I get them for two or three seconds, here and there, only by dint of weeks of hard work?

Pluto in Scorp, Saturn in Sag 7th house, Uranus in sag, Neptune in Capricorn…

I’m filling out a dating profile and debating adding, for honesty’s sake “I may sometimes enjoy myself but fun is not in my vocabulary.”

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

It comes back but it’s better because it’s real

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

thats nice to know, because right now my idea of fun is a clean sink and bathroom and then an early bedtime with a cup of dandelion tea while working on some spreadsheets….seriously haha

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

Oh, that won’t change 🙂

That’s Saturn life now or should I business as usual

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

should I *say* business as usual.

Sorry I blind from working on spreadsheets most of the day, true!

PiMM Member
Pi

usually aided by tapping into Jupiter or venus consciousness or transits perhaps? Uranus can drop sunshine ray-bombs into our lap too sometimes, which is nice. saturn can forget to fade into the background – by stopping to take stock and reflect, and recognise the fug that has cleared as a result of the work, might help to see how much more room we have for pleasure and happiness. Maybe even – hey this is something saturn would approve of! – a ritual or event to mark the shift or change/learning…a boundary! Take a friend out lunch to celebrate ‘the end’… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Love this idea

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Thank you for this reminder that my half-hearted memory smiles at the joys in life are probably a result of Saturn–in my 1st right now and trining my natal Saturn/and Sun and squaring a Virgo stellium that begins at 8deg up to my Uranus at 27deg (so not done yet…but up next an opp to natal moon)….ANYWAY. This was a good reminder. Having stepped back into qi gong to reset, am being rewarded with longer than 3 seconds gusts of mystery, joy and numinous all-love. But it’s way way earned this time.

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

Seriously, my Saturn transit never ends. Moon in Cap, four houses with either Cancer or Capricorn on the cusp, Saturn in 7th house, it’s just one long Saturnfest. When people ask me if I did anything “fun” lately I want to do the “Get Out” move.

Jokerman
Jokerman
Jokerman
Jokerman

Fail …I think.
Anyway it was Bill Murray punching out Ned Ryerson.

IrockMM Member
Irock

Moon in Cap here as well, Saturn in 7th too. I fell your pain. Pluto was a bitch. Glad it happened, but still a bitch.

Jokerman
Jokerman

How did ya get so many ruled by the CanCap axis?

l have a bit of this with my Sat (Rx) 2* Cap and Cap 8*53 Dsc with Moon in 7th tho in Aqua (Aqua to acquaintances / 7th in intimaticies). Esp as Pluto trans-opp the midpoint of my Kat Asc and Sun.

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

Moon in Cap means Saturn rules the two cancer houses (3 and 4) and rules the two Capps houses (9 and 10). And lives in 7. And trines Uranus in Leo. I have a Scorpio stellium and had my second Saturn return this year, so it’s just been bearing down for a long time. I’m the oldest person where I work, by far, and I feel obsessed with age as I approach 60.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ok. My mistake l, erroneously, read it as four for each. I’m the craziest where l work.

nattyMM Member
natty

Mystic this is the best!! What a wonderful journey Saturn has taken us on xx

BLISS WITCHMM Member
BLISS WITCH

Right. Almost done with this stretch.

Saturn 3 Sag
Mercury 7 Sag
Uranus 17 Sag
Venus 21 Sag
Sun 28 Sag
Neptune 3 Capricorn

So……… after 2018……… everything should be a little clearer.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hang on…after 2018???

BLISS WITCHMM Member
BLISS WITCH

When Saturn moves beyond my Neptune…. yes, plz

DMM Member
D

Oh wow you remind me of myself. Similar Saturn and Neptune positions. My sun is at 23 Gemini, so opposite yours (and opposite Saturn currently). Scorpio Ascendant at 17 degrees Saturn 5 Sag (1st house) Uranus 20 Sag (2nd house) Neptune 4 Capricorn (2nd house) Mars 22 Capricorn (2nd house) 3rd house cusp at 25 Capricorn. LOL so Saturn leaving it in… 2019 (ish)?? Saturn is opposite my natal sun at 23 Gemini in the 8th house until like end of November. Also Pluto transiting my 2nd until like end of 2020 or something. I’ve read that Saturn conjunct Neptune… Read more »

SyrenaMM Member
Syrena

I actually referred to Saturn as “my heartless redeemer” the other day, but I’ve always leaned towards the poetic (see icon).

In my case, I think it happened backwards, because I didn’t really see what can happen when you work with Saturn until recently. Might go differently when it crosses my natal Saturn (in my 12th house), but that’s not for two and a half years.

Alouetta
Alouetta

That’s a fair assessment. Sometimes I think poetry is more accurate than science.

gogengoMM Member
gogengo

Saturn, I love you for making responsible + sober but for the love of God, can you please lighten up a bit???

He’s pushing down hard on me, I’m SO OVER IT

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

hahaha – this illustrates my seemingly never ending saturn transits perfectly! Have you heard of the Vedic concept of Sade Sati Mystic? its a horror transit spanning (I think) 30 degrees either side of your moon. Some people it makes, others it breaks… Im pretty sure this explains the non stop Shiz-fest since Saturn entered Libra, exited Saturn and then hit on my Sagg stellium..

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

exited Scorpio!
btw , i think this is one of my favourite posts 😀 – short, succinct and the perfect illustration of the situation

RedsonyaMM Member
Redsonya

Yes, lol. I have had the exact same experience. Luckily it’s through my sag stellium now and in my tenth house.

Luna Sun
Luna Sun

Well I’ve just checked for the Sade Sati periods in my life & they coincided perfectly with two periods which were truly hard and awful. Both started when Saturn was 30º before my Moon & ended when Saturn was 30º past. So yes, interesting.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I read this up a bit earlier. It appears that it is a 7.5 year section of a Saturn cycle so it entails 90*, not 60*. Moon in Leo are the most affected and conversely, in Aqua, the least affected.

Luna Sol
Luna Sol

Yes, I was not clear above. It affects the sign before and the sign after the sign your Moon is in – so 3 signs: 90º. All I know is that both times the monumental foulness lasted for at least 7 years.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

aha, right, well that explains everything!!

marsbar
marsbar

Experienced the same with Sade Sati. My Saturn transits were non-stop since 2005 up until end of 2015. There is no way pure Western astrology alone with a paltry 2 yr Saturn transit can explain the shit that happened those years. If you feel like the world is out to kill you, check if you have a Sade Sati transit. To check, make sure you use your vedic moon sign. I’m Scorpio Moon but in vedic I am Libra moon. So that means shit starts hitting the fan when Saturn is in virgo and continues hitting the fan all up… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Ergh. FQ.

I’m just gonna remind myself that “makes or breaks” is typical of the Vedic binary extreme language used (reminiscent of Chinese conservative-conformist fears of the outlier) and go…

…yeh that is why i keep contemporary in astro interpretation reading. Despite my love of the ancients. For background more than personal. May be true; may be self fulfulling fearful illusion.

Redsonya
Redsonya

Omg, lol. This is so timely for me. I just finished with 8 years of Neptune square all my personal planets, then once that was done Saturn conjuncted them all . Let me tell you Saturn conjunct your Sun and venus, baaaack and forth for a couple years feels like you are the last person standing. I did lots of therapy and now I actually enjoy my alone time with my daughter so friends and family (the few I sekected after all that) are back again, lol. It is FINALLY all over and Saturn is in my tenth house where… Read more »

RubentMM Member
Rubent

Yes.
And then the balancing because of a Libra MC. The above picture melts into the background, not as something done and conquered, never to be returned to again; but as fundamental maintenance so that the ‘get out’ lines are precise, accurate and without a trace of quibble quabble doubt. Nay instead their said with an internal sense of gleeful self knowing.

IrockMM Member
Irock

Me: My natal Saturn is at 29 degrees. It’s… hard sometimes. Christian Them: What is Saturn at 29? Honey, this is meant to be. Jesus is teaching you lessons. You’re like Job. Don’t question it, just believe that it is meant to test your faith. God loves you! Pagan Them: Aww, just be more positive! Don’t be such a cynic! Atheist Neoliberal Them: Listen, I know you’re pretty much fuqed right now, but all you need to do is pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You’re the only one who can save you. I’m off to buy a new house.… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

Fuq I hate neoliberals. I know hate is a strong word.

Alouetta
Alouetta

Does anyone know the astrological signature of neoliberalism?

PiMM Member
Pi

I’m thinking back to the first G20 summit with protests, and the creation of the world trade organisation in the mid 1990s. That was a big stellium / conjunction in Capricorn, importantly including Neptune, melting (economic and regulatory) barriers (to trade). This made it easier for companies to grow enormously and I guess also become more powerful. The neoliberal argument is as dogmatic as any religion so there’s a possibly a difficult sadge aspect or transit there? At the personal belief level it’s a very hard, exclusive set of ideas about personal value and worth, defined only by one’s economic… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Open to debate, obviously, this is me freely theorizing

Alouetta
Alouetta

I think you’re spot on. My thoughts went initially to some relationship between Neptune and Capricorn – there’s a real delusion at the base of neoLiberal dogma, a willingness to not-see the impacts of these monetary structures. And we’ve bought it. Looking back, the point for me was seeing a news article about people buying bottled water in Canada back in the late 80s. Canada has good water – why would you you choose to buy something freely available? Neoliberalism is just an extension of that con. Trickle down economics, my ass.

marsbar
marsbar

Lol! Crappy Libertarians! I know some decent ones and then there are the ones that are total trash. Libertarian solution for homelessness: the churches or some other group will take care of them. Govt doesnt need to do anything about them. Were you not paying attention in the 80’s? Trickle down economics doesnt work. But i am curious what are Libertarians astrologically? In the U.S. They made a news splash at the same time as Tea Party-ers but are slightly different. They seem to be aligned with “Preppers” (non-political subculture into homesteading, homeschooling) but one can be any political leaning… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Weird because i have been in some sort of De Nile Is De Longest River in Africa bullshit protective device (yes! All this time! SAGITTARIUS NEPTUNE JUPITER MOON CONJUNCT RISING IN ANTARES) and looking at also relevant transits to fqn Chiron Merc Leo Pisces Capricorn Aqua Aries you name it cos my dumbfqer chart makes the whole thing resonant… Anyway, i guess with that chart i must consider and “experience” all aspects. As a Pisces they are mostly going to appear to my detriment/enhance a victim mentality. Which gives me fuel to f the WUT?? Because in the end, if… Read more »

IrockMM Member
Irock

I feel you on the seasonal thing. Except my ‘seasons’ are more like… years. It’s like a rollercoaster when it happens and when it happens, it’s like literally EVERYTHING in my life gets fuqing triggered and feels like its collapsing. No, *is* collapsing lol. So. But yeah. I find truly awesome people, real friends, to be rare birds. I am fortunate to have a few. I am grateful beyond measure when they show up. At my best, I’m like a fuqing Zen Master, slaying shit on an elevated level. At my worst, I feel like a qi vamp. But it’s… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yes a season is long in some astro transits!

Suddenly a light broke through. That long season has been a struggle but i realised ive come far in some ways. It sounds like you have done more than endure, lrock.

That feeling, though…looking to letting the heaviness fall away and soaring new skies.

PiMM Member
Pi

Just because you don’t get up at 5.00 in the morning doesn’t mean you aren’t doing the Work. And I so, so hear you on the muscles craving action release

PiMM Member
Pi

I’m giving myself up until the spring equinox to work back up to balance and healthy process as a daily practice. About 4 weeks. I think the Leo new moon was a good start. (“Get it together”) Weather will be warming up, days getting longer, and it’s Virgo season, with a nice new moon near then too, and mercury out of shadow. When the sadge new moon hits, 12 weeks later, that’s my 6th house and on the tail of the Saturn transit. Let the goal stalking resume? It’s been a long time. The houses 2, 6, 10 all seem… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hm i like that read of those houses being incremental support.

Thank you. That’s in my chart so i have it in me. We feel so easily undone by our selves. That is what i aim to tame.

PiMM Member
Pi

you had another comment somewhere about that earth trine and I thought, ahhh now i get it. structuring our lives in a reasonable (not autocratic) way is probably helpful when the fish-centaur is start to roam wildly but there are things to do

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

yes and yes! I like it. Getting ready for Uranus in Taurus too 🙂

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Just in the interests of astro-thenticity, my earth planets are not in trine with each other.

Pluto and Saturn are trined. But Mars trines nothing.

It’s one of those uneven pie-slice house divisions that are the result of distance from the equator at birth.

Not that it diminishes the insight you brought us from your observations!

PiMM Member
Pi

aha. i assumed a bit wrongly! thank you 😉

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

yes to not getting up at 5 in winter, and taking it easy. all my taurus means I’m pretty lazy, and I do what I can. Yoga today, riding my bike to work when I can and it’s not raining. walking and stair climbing during my day. I gave up the gym years ago, being fit was great but I don’t love the regular time consuming and boring classes… I think we try too hard to be ‘perfect’ with exercise, eating, whatever, and berate ourselves harshly when we don’t follow the regime, and then feel like shit. so I’m giving… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

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