Time Witch – Saturn Time Versus Uranus Time

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Many of you will be aware of the difference between so-called Newtonian Time and Einstein Time – watch this quick clip for an excellent explanation or just take my Mercury-in-Aries parsed version.  Both men were obviously genius physicists, separated by centuries and hugely influential. Isaac Newton was a Saturnine Capricorn and Einstein a Pisces with a whole heap of astral vibe in the 10th house. AKA legacy.

Newton’s version of time was that it was immutable and absolute – it acted upon us, like it or not. Cue untold Gothic poetry. “Gather ye rose buds while ye may, old time is still a flying” and all that. For hundreds of years, Newton Time – or what i think of as more “Saturn Time” theory held sway.  But then Einstein rocked up and introduced what i think of as “Uranus Time.”

Einstein/Uranus Time is not this consistent, steady force pulverizing away at everything – it’s something more akin to a magical force that interacts with us or even that flows from us.  And as you know, a myriad – a multi-verse of quantum physics concepts have come from this.

I’ve personally experienced Uranus Time as when one phrase or a soft whiff of scent has folded time back in on itself and drastic, radical connections get made between one point in linear Saturn time and another. Synchronicity and Deja Vu are Uranus Time.  We time travel in our dreams and we can do it every night if we wish.

I was talking about time and our perception of it with my friend, the very talented intuitive Jessica Snow – she emailed me this:

As for time, I get it. I feel time-crunched too. I am reminded of one section of that Upper Limit Problem book – The Big Leap. Have you read it? There is a whole thing where he talks about Newtonian time vs. Einstein time – basically that when you are in your Zone of Genius, time molds itself to you and your needs, that it is relative. (here is  a video describing what he is alluding to It’s interesting, I think, to experiment with the idea that you, as powerful magician, can stretch time to fit your needs so you can do the things the universe wants you to bring forth.

Also, as someone who has been enjoying your prodigious output for the last few years, I can’t imagine you ever doing something halfway or in an untimely or non-Saturn-compliant way so yes, just maybe really giving yourself a bit of permission to focus more on the ‘eternal stream of things’ and that you don’t need to entertain the pressure aspect (which might be an energetic habit from a time when you were not as on top of your game as you are now).

That really struck me. Okay so i have strong Saturn AND Uranus in my astro – they are in opposition in fact. It’s possible that if you have one dominating the other, you would be more inclined to do Saturn Time than Uranus Time or vice versa. J.G. Ballard – a Scorpio who is one of my favorite authors – was obsessed with time themes. He returned to it again and again,  most notably in Chronopolis but in any number of short stories where despotic governments tinkered with time and introduced strange variations of daylight saving.  Ballard had Uranus in Aries square Saturn in Capricorn. Stephen “A Brief History Of Time” Hawking is Saturn-Uranus conjunct in Taurus FYI.  Madeleine L’Engle whose novel A Wrinkle In Time is arguably one of the most original and out-there science fantasies for children ever – was Saturn in Leo opposite Uranus in Aquarius.

I think a lot of us also inherit or otherwise absorb a certain style of work ethic and time consciousness from our forbears – that if we’re not sweating it or harrowed, it’s not work or it should not be profitable. Alternatively that age (as in time) should weary us and diminish our capabilities.  Uranus Time has none of that.  The astrological Uranus scorns convention, of course, but it’s more than that. We need an element of Saturn Time to measure obligations such as tax or to suggest that maybe it’s time to retire our habit of getting s-faced at the club every Saturn’s Day night but it’s not always helpful.

The more you develop an astrological consciousness, the more you perceive in Uranus Time, broadly categorizing people by their Pluto generations rather than their age or noticing that Venus Vibe is back and happening.

Genuine rapport and chemistry is always experienced as Uranus Time – the energy exchange between you and another is such that time does not just fly, it’s suspended. With other sorts of engagements, time just plods. When you’re staring with disbelief at the clock in geography class or sneaking a glance at your iPhone to see if it’s reasonable to make your exit yet, you’re doing Saturn Time.

Time Management is Saturn Time – Time Witchery is Uranus Time.

Thoughts?

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Allyleoaqua
Allyleoaqua

Mystic, I’m back. You should listen to “Jane Weaver”. So Uranian and cool. Also,” a swiftly tilting planet” by Madeline Lengle was the follow up to a wrinkle in time and I actually liked it more. So much time travel. Madeline Lengle was so intensely magical, I always go to her for guidance. Her books on spirituality are also nice, she was a devout catholic I think. The true roots of every religion which I find to be Saturn like are very esoteric in nature. Sort of like what was time before Saturn or Uranus? And why do these planets… Read more »

TangoMM Member
Tango

ho. lee. fuq.
this is the key to one of my current pressing problems, THANK YOU.
in recently coming to terms with my psyche as being of the autistic variety, i’ve agreed with myself that i function much better with a schedule – but it’s been a nightmare trying to make one that’s equally structured (Cap moon) and flexible (Gem sun). and now i’m pretty sure my issue is that i’ve been trying to use Saturn time when Uranus time makes way more sense to me (Uranus conj Moon, Saturn in Aquarius). i’m off to brainstorm how to implement this brilliance…

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Reflecting upon this topic some more, IMO Uranian Time is that moment when time stands still as your Future meets your Present. It’s something you experience as VERY distinct and you will never forget it if/when it happens – it’s like a “jump” or “short-circuit” type of effect. I’ll give an example: I have a wise old Aquarius Grandmother figure who reads my cards on occasion and she once told me (at the time) my next big love would be someone I’d know through work and that he would be “absolutely crazy about [me] – he’s not going to come… Read more »

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

ooooh!

skarabMM Member
skarab

Yes, that’s my perception of Neptune-ness. I agree with you in the statement you made further up, how you don’t think it’s an actual Time as such – but more a state of being or timeless-ness…. no boundaries, just blending with the All and feeling peace. I currently have it trine my Sun almost exact and am consciously accessing it more and more. If it weren’t for Uranus sitting almost on my AC/DC axis – producing bouts of manic impatience and sleep deprivation :/… life would be sweet.

Pi
Pi

uranus and sleep deprivation. OMG
i have always been a night owl but since uranus has been opposing my 4th house (a bit before actually, probably ~ Aries ingress) it has been out of control . there are psychological factors too. Not insomniac – i adore sleep – but it’s like , well i have mentioned before somewhere

what is the outer planet transit for REST?
sigh

Pi
Pi

actually i guess that is chiron, neptune , huh

problem with capitalist? world is its protestant? obsession with / assigning worthiness and value only to material productivity, busy-ness. God loves busy people. Have You Worked Hard Enough Today?
etc

Pi
Pi

productivity is the new minimalism.

(Keep an eye out for my upcoming book, that I wrote on a 4 week bender while working hard on my day job and all while maintaining a rigorous health and fitness regime)

Pi
Pi

soz skarab, by the end here this is me riffing, not actually replying to your comment, but inspired it all anywy X

skarabMM Member
skarab

No worries Pi – rant on. I’m the same. Ever since it’s been in Aries it’s been trining my 10th H stellium. I. am. fried. xx

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Nail = head – “timeless-ness” is perfect! Something existing beyond the flow of linear time…it could be any point on The Multiverse’s space/time continuum or none at all, where we are simply floating outside of its influence. If you really want to get trippy with it, maybe all are happening at once. Maybe Neptune Time is actually a singularity, where space and time are infinitely compressed/distorted. Actually, now that I’m thinking about it, I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what it is – whoa! Cheers, fellow Neptune Traveler – as we speak, it’s within orb for me as well <3

skarabMM Member
skarab

“I sing not of this world or other stars
I sing the possibilities of myself beyond this world and the stars
I sing the joy of wandering and the pleasure of a wanderer’s death”

-Apollinaire (Neptune-Moon 9th H) :-).

Invicta
Invicta

Saturn squares my moon but trines Uranus so I practically live in the space between the zones. Spiderwebs and stars, evening redness in the west, the blue and the dim and the half light.
This is such an epic post though- and awesome Astro

Invicta
Invicta

Uranus really is the liberator though isn’t she?
I feel like this Uranian energy is helping me heal my Saturn – toxic daddy issues. Like you can work on something for ages and then ZAP Uranus throws a laser your way and you don’t see the incremental daily grunts just the splendour of what all the days together have made so far.

Cher
Cher

Awesome post! The notion of Saturn time vs Uranus time sits well with me. Personally have experienced non local universe event where it caught up a muggle at same time, whereby muggle became aware of non local universe event (read Uranus time flow/distortion).and actually asked me rather aggitatedly and repeatedly…”did you see that”? I denied I had seen ‘that’ mainly because I had not expected event like ‘that’ before either. ‘That’ being that time flowing around us I.e. and moving objects including people and cars in our near vacinity slowed down….very, very noticeably….while we two appeared to continue on at… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

I have an interesting relationship w/ Saturn Time. One of my previous incarnations involved estimating time (and ergo, costs). A Father Figure once noted that I seemed to have an aptitude for this without any training – he suggested I learn the trade, so I did. I taught myself all I could learn, hit the books to decipher the legalese portion of the equation (reading the General Statutes is always SUCH a good time, LOL), and eventually wound up obtaining not one but two professional licenses to this end. To this day, if you ask how long it will take… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

ok just realised i have saturn square uranus.
hard to know if one dominates the other-they’re both in fixed signs…
saturn in leo in fourth, uranus in scorp in sixth.
i certainly know which tupe of ‘time’ i prefer lol
people say i look ten yrs younger than i am, whoop.
not that im concerned with that. cant wait for crone time

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

also absolutely loving this whole post.
i have always struggled massively with the concept of time–saturn time, to be specific. it’s difficult to click out of uranus time.
i have saturn and uranus both retro and in my intercepted capricorn in the first house.

UniversaliMM Member
Universali

Of all the things I’ve read today this is my fave. Also the first of 2 other random written references to ‘A Wrinkle In Time’. I’ve never read it but it’s made the top of my list!

skarabMM Member
skarab

In movies time is used to create tension – and if i had the time i would make a film of all the the sequences in movies where they say or yell “We don’t have much time!” or variants thereof : “We’re running out of time” etc. Honestly, i’d say 99% of all movies – all except the time-less classic “Bambi meets Godzilla”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCUBVS4kfQ

🙂

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I want to see the sequels. But hard to see him/her comeback from that.
And where was Thumper when he was needed.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Perhaps the sequels depict the Many Worlds Interpretations put forward by Hugh Everett III, whereby different versions exist concurrently in different alternative or parallel universes. Thus, each time quantum systems interact with each other, the wave function does not collapse but actually splits into alternative versions of reality, all of which are equally real.

(don’t know re Thumper – i’ve blanked that movie. According to my mother i found it too harrowing & ran out of the movie theatre howling)

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

“Hoodwinked” tells it bettter.

Kellieg77
Kellieg77

Wow this is awesome stuff – this post and the comments!!!!!

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

Adore this post!! I am Saturn conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius. “A World Without Time: The Forgotten Legacy of Einstein and Gödel” is a favorite book of mine and I studied Kurt Gödel a lot. The “most logical man” (Gödel) was actually a huge Platonist and I suppose what most logicians would call a ‘mystic’ (big diss in academic world lol) in spite of his huge contribution to logic, a really fascinating guy. I was talking with my guy about having hyperawareness of time as a child and how it was really existentially stressful at times when I didn’t have the… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

i totally get your experiences as a child – i felt and did almost what you did at around the same age ( 4-6 ) – taking mental snapshots of seemingly mundane or random events so i wouldn’t forget. I also had my own form of relativity theory – something weird about us being trees – though it wasn’t obvious to us because we moved in a different time-frame to the trees that we perceive … just impossible to explain – but i was convinced we were all trees.

PandoraMM Member
Pandora

Man, I remember Saturn and Uranus in Sagg. Shit, I remember Neptune there for a year or so – all three of them – as well. I was in my 20s, studying, having fended off going to uni for, like, six years or so after school. Really glad you reminded me of this time. It was when I first got into astrology/physics (as well as having mind expanded by study). Uber-self-disciplined – planned my essay prep schedule to a T. Somehow they worked together – Uranus gave me my best HD essay ideas when I was doing something else –… Read more »

PandoraMM Member
Pandora

oops..how did I click post? Anyway I mean I definitely find the way to do my Saturn inconj Uranus when under pressure – it’s like the writing/words flow way faster/better than usual and there is a background awareness of Saturn time but not a sense of being trapped by it – just a sense that I can confidently accelerate (moon in aries?) the flow to make it in the nick of time if need be.

Invicta
Invicta

Amazing comment and I can so relate I remembered a dream I had as a child this morning So powerful but also seemingly mundane and so I’ve never told anyone and actually my childhood was characterised by feeling that the most “mundane” things and experiences were mystical and sublime and them feelings of shame because adults aroma would mock my Pollyanna like view of the profound. Was always hearing “it doesn’t take much to please you does it? And oh well, you’ll always be happy, you derive pleasure from such insignificant things hahahaha” And I’d blush and want to hide.… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

oh wow and any australian young adult fic readers might remember Playing Beattie Bow, time-space bender.

PiMM Member
Pi

oh my god! I just remembered another YA time travel book. and all the kids sci-fi/ fantasy that I devoured, along with all the girl-detective novels. god, i really miss reading. thanks MM. the daily must have just kicked in lol.

PiMM Member
Pi

reading *fiction*. although harlan ellison in front of me here seems like the way back in

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

I have Saturn in Sag train Uranus in Leo natally – so this is status normal for me? In my natal chart, though, Uranus is in 4th house, and Saturn in 7th. Now transiting Saturn is in 8th and Uranus is in my interminably huge 12th house, so it’s considerably crunchier. Hard to figure out how to move forward.

SyrenaMM Member
Syrena

Uranus, saturn, mercury, and neptune are all snuggled up to each other in my capricorn, so time is a fuzzy thing where I live. On the one hand, schedules and structures for everything, on the other, any free time is spent in a self-contained bubble of Uranian fluidity. I swear, I eat time to fuel my creative endeavors, so it’s used up more quickly. I feel like the astro/tarot/witchery thing is a way for me to merge the two, tracing the outline of the shapeless things so I can better understand them. Like the way I’m journaling what happens each… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

A few weeks ago, I purchased a copy of Margaret Atwood’s Cat’s Eye. Read the post this morning, decided to start the book this afternoon. First page, Stephen Hawking quote. Then the story begins with speculations of time. Seriously. I suppose I think of time now and again but not the cultivated musings some have mentioned. Lately, since Saturn has opposed my Venus, I feel that time has been fuquing with me. I don’t have enough, it disappears, I am stunned on how much time passes when it feels momentary. I have Uranus and Lachesis conjunct my ascendant, like a… Read more »

Sylver Silph
Sylver Silph

Just starting to weekly look at transits, menstrual cycle, top 3 priorities, and how I want to feel, and letting that inform a cyclical daily planner in which I acknowledge that early morning = spring, noon = summer, early evening = autumn, and night = winter, and adjusting everything accordingly as well as tracking energy. A la Kate Northrup’s new mastermind, Origin. It’s on point, i’m on point.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

GODDESS this RESONATED.

I totally get it. When you’re in the Genius zone–that’s Uranus time for sure. Synchronicity too.

And we still need Saturn time as a check, obvs.

Cycles…yes! I’m much more aware of them thanks to astro. Uranus time.

You have to balance the two…

Somehow we are FORGED in Saturn time…so that we can go on to make best use of Uranus time with our hard won wisdom/genius.

I looooooovveeeee iiiiitttt.

skarabMM Member
skarab

I love this post Mystic. I have been obsessed with the concept of Time & time travelling since i can remember, & a “Wrinkle in Time” was in my childhood like a gateway drug for further time obsessing – even if it is a Saturnian construction. 🙂 Time: “tempus” in latin from the Greek “tempo” – which in the early meaning referred to anything that has been cut out or marked off, such as the parts of the heavens marked off by the motion of the sun along its path – hence the meaning of tempo & tempus as a… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

Wow, yes! Great post! I’ve had experiences of ‘bending time’ when I was in a flow or when there were many things to be done and also needed to be somewhere, to drop back into things at a certain ‘time’. As you say, time can stretch and expand to meet your needs, and you just tap into it, it is a different state of consciousness than the way a clock measures time and the collective everyday agreement we have around time, such as what time an appointment is or what time you need to be there to catch a plane.… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

Hah, yes indeed! I left publishing because it was ALL about deadlines, deadlines, deadlines & not leaving anything out (omg the constant panicking!)… even the word deadline is horrible!

Also, the Seth books channelled by Jane Roberts really chew on the concept of time & how past lives are parallel lives to this life all happening simultaneously. For self healing work this is fantastic – as one can go “back” to heal your self as a child or whenever.

PiMM Member
Pi

I am working on this right now – something came up in a reading recently about $, success, happiness and beliefs. My subconscious once again was communicating with me via a little earworm for a song i know, so I played it and yes… there it was, a starting point for some thinking and healing

Flowerchild – sounds a bit like principles of wu-wei 🙂

Sitting quietly
doing nothing.
Springtime comes
the grass grows by itself.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Aw, I like that poem, Pi! Yeah, it does seem like wu wei and the Daoist way of seeing things.

skarab – I’m glad you got out of publishing! Whew! …..and yeah, I agree, ‘deadline’ is an icky word :/

Past life healing, for sure! I have a friend who does past life regressions and he did one on me and at the time I didn’t think much happened but as ‘time’ unfolded from that session, I felt subtle and profound shifts in my deeper story, like, the soul’s time-line……all very interesting!

Invicta
Invicta

Flowerchild I wanted to say thanks. Checked out that dudes YouTube channel and HOLY SHIT Sirens and alarm bells galore. Honestly its helped me so much I can’t thank you enfor the recommendation. Ive inhaled two of the books he mentioned already but the biggest thing I’ve gotten is the understanding of what narcissistic rage is and how destabilizing it continues to be even in adulthood because an adult child of narcissistic parents will isolate and keep playing those same audio tapes..I have really battled with my inner monologue and not understood why. My therapist calls it The Critical Voice… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Shit
I’m sorry
I did NOT mean to write that much

PiMM Member
Pi

WHOA
your dad
triggered af.
Guess you hit a nerve?

your words/ request sounded fine to me.

asking a certain kind of person to deeply examine their minds and possibly change based on a self appraisal that may be less than perfect?
that’s a cup of cool, refreshing humility from the fountain of too-hard-basket. it seems?

Hugs.

PiMM Member
Pi

so i read your comment from the bottom up, commented part way, and then saw the top of your comment. so yes.

Invicta
Invicta

Pi, he has no idea I’ve been made redundant or filed for bankruptcy or bloody shaved my head or literally NOTHING about my life and I’ve called him frequently He just never asks I can’t remember one time in my life when he’s asked me anything ever I thought no that cant be true I’ll bring it up.. Mm I got a text back from him saying “why is it that you’re the only person in this family that’s allowed to be hurtful?” Like are we on the same planet? I mean, I know I’m not crazy because I actually… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

I am sooo sorry
This is a really melodramatic and long winded comment that I could have cut down to three sentences..
Saturn – father – Uranus- insight into what is dysfunctional and needs to be Chironed.
Boom!
I love this site and I’m so grateful for the recommendations and support I get from this community. It’s so amazing to have relevant and witty astrology content with sartorial and political undertones and no ads or nasty internet trolls.
Thank you MM and PIAB’s

Invicta
Invicta

Omg Pi thank you!!
I’ve never appreciated a virtual hug so much in my LIFE!
I know right?
I literally said “i feel…when you..”
Sad and don’t ask me how I am
Like since when is this a reason to launch into someone?
But I hadn’t grokked the pattern at all and I’m so glad I have now..
Fuck what a scary man

PiMM Member
Pi

and what a way to have it laid out before you. like a very angry textbook…

PiMM Member
Pi

i was thinking about your comment here after some more re-listens to this song, have realised that with south node & chiron transiting conjunct sun/mercury and the rest, going back to heal stuff, or having it pass through all layers of time like a tibetan bell, i think this cross-temporal thing (healing / recognition) has been a manifest reality in my life in the past two years. it’s never over, but it is becoming easier to spot and work with, instead of always wondering why everything feels / is just so goddamn painful.

Invicta
Invicta

Indeed
I have Chiron opposite my sun, square my ascendant and in some or other aspects to Mercury too. I’m having Saturn square Pluto, Pluto square Chiron and Uranus square Pluto and on and on and on and I’m a fucking mess I tell you Pi
A mess
XxxxxxxX

Invicta
Invicta

It is amazing though
I know I whine about it constantly but when I’m not whining about Chiron, I’m appreciating him massively.
Saturn already knows I’m a fan..
Pluto I am virtually married to and I’ve always loved Uranus like mad zingy hot affairs
Uranus is just sexy to me, and the others in more somber hues but Chiron has taken longer to fit in.
I’ve been asking what the point of Chiron is lately and well, I guess I just found out.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Hi Invicta! I’m so glad R. Grannon’s work has helped you! He has helped me so much, too! Definitely sounds like you’re dealing with a narcissist in your father. Ugh.. sounds really painful, but you’ve got so much insight on the situation now. That will help you heal. You got classic narcissistic rage from him, they deny and then project onto the people around them, in other words, deny what they are doing, and then accuse you of doing that very thing…..it’s crazy-making…..unless you can see it for what it is. They will never change, it’s like beating your head… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Thanks Flowerchild I honestly feel so much better now I’ve calmed down and had some food. I’m glad it hapand that it was so entirely weird because if it hadn’t I’d never have acknowledged it. I don’t want to over react because I’ll just feel guilty and apologise if I do. I’d never have even tried to communicate on that level if I was sure he had the disorder. The fact that I did shows that either I genuinely thought he’d handle it or unconsciously that I was testing him. If so then the setup was perfect- thanks unconscious:) Yeah…makes… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

deny what they are doing, and then accuse you of doing that very thing…..it’s crazy-making

Preach!

curiouser and curiouser crabMM Member
curiouser and curiouser crab

Thank you for what you wrote Invicta. You are a courageous woman and never for a moment do i doubt the pain that comes from that when working through the layers. I love your honesty and courage. Thank you too for shedding some light on something in my life. Wishing you healing and joy and love that is true and real. Xx

angie
angie

Yes. Thoughts. Hi mystic…. community… My moon is exactly at the 12th house cusp (very neptunian) and my moon is also conjunct uranus and conjunct pluto (2 degrees both). My saturn is absolut exact square venus and in 1 min. orb trine sun and have sun, mars, jupiter and mercury in my cancer 10th house. My chiron is conjunct saturn. So I am very plutonian, uranian, neptunian, chironic and very saturnian. I was always “between” things. it was funny when one day, i realized that i even always had rented flats at or on the border of countries here in… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

<3 thank you for this

Invicta
Invicta

Wow this is incredible thank you!!

dark starMM Member
dark star

This post is everything Mystic! I’d heard Einstein was a Pisces but never thought about it in relation to his idea of time. His chart is super career /legacy Pisces/ genius Uranus in 3rd h pinging off everything. Einsteins space time diagrams were the only thing I was fascinated by in high school physics- the rest was too solid and saturnine for me to get into. Actually it reminds me a bit of astro charts with the dotted lines and movements of bodies across space. I experience Saturnine time in a Neptunian way I think- I always get blips to… Read more »

rachelMM Member
rachel

I love this discussion! I am coming up on my Saturn’s return–(9 cap, 6th house)–I am of the uranus/Saturn/Neptune in cap generation though. So Saturn will cross over my natal uranus (2 cap) after crossing vesta (29 sag) both being tribe my natal venus (29 Leo, 2nd) which is being worked by the current north node, yet happens to be conjunct my natal south node–bang on asteroid Geisha. I have been thinking a lot about time in reference to space and activity. Doing things in a rush and possibly making mistakes vs doing things with careful intention and creating a… Read more »

MollyBlueDawnMM Member
MollyBlueDawn

I have long noticed that it’s impossible to guess the age of a witch. This explains why!

em priceMM Member
em price

you are honestly so EERILY always in flow. I was wanting to write a blog post about my relationship to Time just this week. It’s my most challenging relationship honestly! Everything about this is rad and helpful. It’s so TRUE that time bends to us/with us/from us in the zone of genius. I have the Saturn-Uranus battle to — both super strong for me. This really explains it in a way that is perfect for me.

Isabella Gaspardo
Isabella Gaspardo

me too I have saturn opposed to uranus (and pluto); uranus and pluto are conjunct my moon, so when I was younger I felt that there were periods of time when nothing happened (so I guess I was more tuned to uranus) and would get bored much more easily than now that I’m nearly 52. what I’ve always felt strongly is the difference re time according to where I am: there are places in the world where days feel endless, where every 30 minutes something happens and therefore makes my days and nights full (in a good way), where I… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

I do. I live on my Pluto-ic line, this is meant to be one of the most scenic and tourist y cities in the world but for me, anywhere is better than here. Leaving is like driving up a mountain into the blazing sun and open air out of a damp, grim valley.
Some cities I am instantly at home in even on the other side of the planet with limited local language.

My Pluto thing sounds a bit gloomy , prob reflecting current concerns more than usual.

isaMM Member
isa

sorry for the late reply… been so busy on the computer that I want to throw it out of the window :((((( . ugh. I do feel your pain. I’ve been living very near my sun and mercury line for sooo many years, which supposedly is good for work & everything, given that my chart is very mercurial. yet it doesn’t feel like that at all. not even sun-stable relationship 🙁 . and I do relate to that sense of opening, of breathing more freely as soon as I get away from here. my pluto is well aspected, or perhaps… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

Oh totally, and thank you for the reminder. We did a hack on Astro-Travel at Mystic’s Astro School & it was amazing to see that the locations i’ve lived at really reflected the astro location of the place. The most interesting place for time-space blending/travelling & where i lived at for 3 yrs was on the Uranus/Neptune crossing (Uranus MC/ Neptune AC). It was truly life changing & mind expanding with inter-dimensional time travels & all. I met like minded & unusual people who were great teachers.The description of this on the sidebar on the astrodients map for this configuration… Read more »

isaMM Member
isa

sorry for the late reply, but as I wrote before I’ve been working so much on the pc over the last 10 days that I want to throw it out of the window. gemini season overload I guess. such an interesting & enviable story! yeah, well, psychedelic drugs are not my cup of tea (pardon the tired joke). gave it more than one try, but not for me. besides, they didn’t live up to my expectations 🙁 . but yes, it’s actually fairy land in a way. I have pluto conjunct uranus and the moon in the 3rd, and saturn… Read more »

VirgonatorMM Member
Virgonator

I feel like the crunch of Saturn time can help me believe in/experience Uranus time. Like it is at the moments when I feel most hemmed in by too much to do or not enough hours of sleep or something else so objectively impossible that I sometimes throw all the rules out the window and slip into a parallel universe.

Not much these days, though. Just Saturn punches day in and day out. I am feeling an unbearable need to escape into something more magical, though. Maybe I’ll find an escape hatch.

NiaMM Member
Nia

This is wonderful. I have Saturn-Uranus conjunct in Sagittarius. My Virgo Moon uses Saturn Time as a constant tool, but otherwise I live in Uranian time. They’re like two modes. * I work in film audio, in a software that lets us move pieces of sound around on layered “tracks” in a workspace which corresponds horizontally to a timeline in sync with picture. There are two modes you can work in: Grid or Slip. Grid mode lays a quantized grid over the whole workspace so you can make edits and alignments precisely to a particular bits of time, in order… Read more »

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

I love this! I used to work in Director and Authorware ages ago and they used the same concepts. I really feel this thread has zapped my consciousness this morning. Perfect synchronicity! This is amazeballs.

NiaMM Member
Nia

Yeah! I had never thought of the software in this Saturnian/Uranian manner, but it makes so much sense.
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There is also Spot mode which snaps an audio region to a point in time specifically entered numerically. Super Saturn.
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And Shuffle mode which, when you move one region, it also moves everything “downstream” from that region as well—Neptunian time. lol

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Fricken cool. And I love how using these tools causes our brains to morph around the language/OS. I used to dream in Authorware, causing changes in my life (in dream time) using the principles of the software to manipulate and reorder events in my life. It becomes a new worldview/perspective in a way. Neptune time for sure.

PiMM Member
Pi

Loving this discussion!

Invicta
Invicta

Me too. It’s gorgeous

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Omg I needed this. Saturn retro in Taurus in the 5th fuqs with me hard – I never have “time” to make art, music, play, etc., but my sun conj MC and Uranus in Libra in the 10th begs to differ as I have learned to transcend time and channel inspiration and do whatever I want. Now that I can name this I can work it to my advantage — THANK YOU! Also Jessica Snow is fablulous. I got an annual subscription w her during Venus retro. Love it. Oh and I am in love with Einstein and now that… Read more »

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Like, really — this is straight up synchronicity (Uranus trine Saturn at work). Saturn is my Achilles heel but also good for me, but I have tended to lean on it a bit too much at times and that gets me bogged in a rut. This just liberated me. I looked at my chart and voila, Saturn is sesquiquadrate Uranus, which can be irritating, but now that I’ve had this eureka moment, I get it and can use it. Relief. <3

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Mystic, I LOVE this. I feel like something just short-circuited in my brain. My chart is chock-full of Saturn and I am haunted constantly by the spectre of Saturn Time (you know that quote from Fight Club, “this is your life and it’s ending one minute at a time”? That’s basically playing on a loop in my head constantly) and it’s making me miserable. Funnily enough, I’ve been doing Jessica Snow’s meditation programme for time crunch that she mentioned in her most recent subscriber email and its been helping a lot already!

Suddenly LeoMM Member
Suddenly Leo

Lesson plan on Uranus time (time capsule as a means of communication with our future selves):
https://twitter.com/sheilaseiler/status/866232563714711552/photo/1

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Oh snap, I need that email. Just started subscribing to JS and didn’t get any emails so I’m glad you said something.

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Yeah, I signed up separately to the emails before I started subscribing! I hope Jessica won’t mind me reposting the relevant segment below for your benefit… “First I suggested Meteorite or Dark Matter to get a little perspective. Then the next day they can listen to Pollinator to transform their feeling of running out of time into “Wow! I have so many things I GET to do”. On the third day they can do The Future or Siesta to make sure the things keeping them busy are in alignment with how they really want their life to be and feel.… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Thanks! I’m going to try it!

mesangeMM Member
mesange

Saturn in Leo 10th house square Uranus in Scorpio in the first house, near my ascendant. I love Uranus time, a Pisces like Einstein, and feel so constricted most of the time by Saturn time which I just don’t get. I don’t really need a job, do I? And when was the last time I filed taxes? People don’t really do that, do they? I mostly seem to be able to make this work for me, but just noticed the constriction… Other people’s Saturn time obsession is so annoying. What do you mean you don’t have time for me? Time… Read more »

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I think of ppl as their natal outer planet positions. Uranus really defines a sub-generation.

I think in mini-eras. Example: Lennon was popular, and alive, for 18 years (62-80) but he has been popular, and dead, for just over 36 years.

PiMM Member
Pi

Saturn time is good for evaluating time -money equation, I had a role for a long time where I simply had to learn to estimate and scope work vs time. But after being unleashed from that, to have to them retrain the mind was kind of deadening – it feels very 3-D , something else today and this has now prompted me to do some grounding work Uranian time is my favourite, things blip into or out of place and you just have to live with open hands to catch and let go as suits.. Neptunian time ? It’s all… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Uranian time can also be a bit unsettling if you’re experiencing personal instability and just need your outside world to be predictable and safe while you reorganize your mind.

skarabMM Member
skarab

“Uranian time is my favourite, things blip into or out of place and you just have to live with open hands to catch and let go as suits..” Totally this! I live by this – sometimes it’s Eureka! moments & sometimes the flashes are so imperceptible that only the nervous system picks them up & the mind either blows with info or/and then the residue is teased out & deciphered at dream time. It’s interesting how you mentioned Neptune Time, because that is actually the first thing that i thought of – wouldn’t Neptune (the time & space blender) used… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

I mean, is it in aspect to your other planets?

PiMM Member
Pi

Hiya. It’s an exact square to Saturn..

PiMM Member
Pi

Well less than a degree

PiMM Member
Pi

agree about the ‘blending of the times’!

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Am Natal saturn opp uranus same as you MM, almost exact, and experienced Uranus flow often whilst painting. Many a sunny day pottering and painting by myself at home, starting in the morning and feeling as if time had stretched beautifully out around me. Currently working in a Very Saturnian time based profession, so those Uranian flow days are too far between. I have Libran rising, so I’ve pondered that maybe one of my life things is to learn be able to switch from one to the other easily. Too much saturn time causes a little pulse to twitch at… Read more »

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Hilarious. I’ve been done 20times for speeding.

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Hoon 🙂
I was quite worried about losing all my points…I have once before and is very inconvenient not being able to drive for 3 months

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I’ve only been caught for speeding as I’ve become a law-abiding citizen. Uptil the early 80s l gave the cops the slip. Technology and maturity caught up with me.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

What is your 3rd house like guys? It rules short trips in your area etc. I have 0 deg Mars .. so um, relate to these lead foot troubles.

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Virgo (late) ruled. 6* Lib NN and 3/4 asteroids.

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Saturn currently in my 3rd House actually

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

My Mars is 0* with Pluto @ 2*.

fishgirlMM Member
fishgirl

This is fascinating to me. I am thinking of last year, when i first discovered my dad’s diaries and papers in the library – five hours in the room with the papers would pass in the headiest flash of information absorption – but then i had to start a new job (to pay the bills) which was, of course, in a police -related area (I’m undergoing a Pluto transit so maybe that’s why). It was the most boring job – i’d compose 30 tweets per week and only one would make it past the head ‘cop’. I spent most of… Read more »

Kim SMM Member
Kim S

Thanks for such a ruminating and transparent post–there is certainly a sweet spot where moments are quantum not just here but potentially everywhere, everywhen or after deleuze nowhere becomes now-here immanent to every where-when what freud dismissed as an oceanic feeling the inkling of more integrated ideas of existence and time like Shao Yung plum blossom numerology divinations–predicated upon outflanking human hubris with wisdom

LotusFlowerMM Member
LotusFlower

This is poetry

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Uranian fast forward at work. I bought a bunch of Jessica’s meditations (couldn’t resist once I heard your freeby) so I might do a bit of meditation to slow things down. BTW “A wrinkle in time” was my very first book in yr 7, initially I thought What? And reread it with many lights coming on…

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Uranus and Pluto (15 Virgo) opp Saturn and Chiron (25-27 Pisces) teaching so Saturn is all about bells and schedules, weeks and terms. Watched sense8 S2 and fairly sure Uranus time distorted for that. Very, very spacey and fluid.

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