The Saturnine Reverie Of Sagittarius

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Sagittarius and Sagittarius identifying folk, you now have less than seven months left of Saturn in your sign.

Given that the Time God first strode into Sagittarius City back in Xmas Eve 2014, you must presumably be a Saturn Pro by now. It’s not just the spread-sheeting, attention to tax and dentistry nor even the sudden onset mature relationship attitudes that set aside a Saturn transit through your sign. It’s the consciousness.

It becomes more streamlined, even as you feel the gravitational heft of whatever time, challenges and wisdom you’ve accumulated to date.  And since you no longer have delusions, defensive drinking, bad but hot lust interests or Dream Weed to keep you contented, your new comfort zone becomes the thrill of just being super on point efficient, the Queen or King of clarity.

From December, Saturn will be in his home constellation of Capricorn, clearly a most suitable and interesting placement – it has a Return of the King sort of a feel – but in the meantime, what have Sagittarius types learned since late 2014?

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SagStella
SagStella

Oh it’s all so beautiful I could weep
In fact I did today. I mistook it for my sensitivity and after a good cry thought out loud.. ÄNIMALS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL
… what?
I mean, I did see the largest most gorgeous sea turtle today
Full moon in Sag June 9th… lessgoo

SagittariusHeart
SagittariusHeart

Saturn has been such a hard ass joy kill. I just want it to leave Sag..counting down the days.

It’s been sitting on my NN and Sun forever, went retro on it! It leaves Sag on my birthday, which will be the best day ever!

I’m tougher, serious, jaded, bored, and more organized. Got some good skills for a major transition at work, which I’m responsible for leading my department through. Very Saturn like.

I just miss the enthusiasm, freedom, carefree and spontaneous flow. It will return at the right time!

Subetty
Subetty

I agree, I miss the carefree flow too. I know it will return for me but in a take no bull kind of way. I can thank my taurus ex for that.

Syrena
Syrena

Also, got hold of my birth certificate yesterday and found out Saturn’s in my 12th house, not the 11th, and hoo boy does that explain a lot.

Syrena
Syrena

All I’m gonna say is I’ll be keeping up with Saturn’s position from now on, so I know when to batten down the fucking hatches and stockpile some spare resources. This HURT. It was necessary, but it hurt.

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

Huge breakthrough on my Saturn Gemini mid heaven conjunction.
Huuuuge.

I got this.
Send good health vibes.

VenusRules
VenusRules

Had my second Saturn return at 12 Sag during this passage, as well as Saturn transiting my Venus at 21 Sag. Man, it’s been a hard slog. My life has felt pretty joyless for a long time, and lonely, as I approach 60 I’m feeling all the entropy. However, the last few weeks have been a rush of creative energy and ideas. Now I just need time from the Time God! Fewer 55-hour weeks, no more two or three hours of commuting every day, I need space and time and breathing room.

VenusRules
VenusRules

Just realized that Black Moon Lilith is also conjunct my natal Saturn in Sag right now. (7th house). That might account for some of the extreme loneliness of the past couple of years along with transiting Saturn in Sag. I welcome any thoughts or experiences anyone has had with this transit! Thanks all.

Electro
Electro

Phew, hardly remember life before Saturn in Sag because I was truly a different person. Hit my second house hard, plowed over my Moon Neptune and kept going to oppose all my Gemini stuff. I got to really see and know the inner workings of my Moon Neptune – my sensitivities, my fuzzy borders, my need for solid boundaries. Awkwardly began sticking up for myself, and I’m getting better at it. Eyes on the real work, focus on what to build, what to allow to dissolve because it’s just not in my true interests. I’ve gained strength in my place… Read more »

Calendula
Calendula

I did go the gym and lose 10 lbs.

I planned an elaborate cross country road trip and actually went on it. In the past i was more of a dreamer when it came to travel plans.

I discovered some vulnerabilities and limitations, with osteoarthritis developing in my knees, ankle and hips.

Blanca
Blanca

Saggo Venus Rising here. I am also a multi conjunct Cap (Sun/Merc/Saturn/Uranus/Neptune) looking forward to a proper Saturn return at the beginning of 2018. Lest we forget Pluto has been in Cap for almost ten years…. It’s been a wild ride. Can totally relate to the implementation of spreadsheets, giving up my decade-long daily dream weed habit (sigh), and a newly discovered affinity for weight training. Not sure what I’ll be streamlining come next year considering I’ve tackled everything from addictions to dental hygiene to diet. It’s probably time to give up the creative “freelance” lifestyle and find a position… Read more »

VenusRules
VenusRules

Funny, that’s exactly what Saturn in Sag has been for me, the soul-killing job. The exact week that Saturn exited Scorpio I got a job – which I needed badly – but what a grind it’s been. It’s supposed to be a “fun” job – at a millennial start-up – but I’m no millennial (turning 60 this year) and have never felt so isolated and lonely in a job, while still working 50 hours a week, long commute, and being told all the time that I don’t fit in and have to try harder. Of course I don’t fucking fit… Read more »

McFish
McFish

I wish there was a Like button on all the above posts. Xmas 2014 it was clear my significant other was very unwell. January 2015 he was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. He died in June. I plugged away at a very difficult job all the while being bullied by a colleague. The job ended in April 2016. Cue second Saturn return in 3rd house. It’s conjunct Mars. I’ve been in a strange reverie ever since. Grieving still but also in deep reflection. Transiting Saturn makes a second pass this summer. Like Invicta above, I’ve had to reflect on my… Read more »

McFish
McFish

Oh yeah. Forgot to add I gave up smoking tobacco and weed and I need to get my teeth fixed.

dizzarina
dizzarina

Love and strength to you McFish xx

McFish
McFish

Thank you.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Did the bullier have an empathy by-pass?
That’s some pummelling.

McFish
McFish

Yes total empathy bypass. Vile person. A serial bully by all accounts. No doubt bullying someone else now. Bullies can hide out in large companies undetected for a long time. The main lesson for me was not to take it personally which I would have done in the past.

sphinx
sphinx

Wishing you all the love and power in the world McF.

McFish
McFish

Thank you. ??

Invicta
Invicta

Hey McFish LIKE Yes, very Saturn indeed I can relate to that bullying story and according to what I’ve read lately, it is fairly common for adult children of narcissistic parents to have that pattern of attracting more of the kind of abuse we experienced as a result. It hurts so much but you’ve done a really brave thing. I don’t want to say this wrong but it’s almost like by turning your back on that situation and all the benefits it held you’re making a bold statement that nothing is worth sacrificing emotional sobriety and mental health for even… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Also need to get my teeth fixed.
So Saturn

McFish
McFish

Ha! As soon as I can scrape the money together I’ll be off to the dentist. I love not having to get the filthy nicotine stains scraped off my teeth now.

McFish
McFish

Like steel being tempered … yes I love this. That’s the Saturn thing, I think. The clarity around this means I’m not wasting time wondering what I did wrong. I can see it for what it was… just a nasty bully, doing what bullies do, nothing more to reflect on. But the most important realisation is that I’ve wasted years trying to fathom my mother’s behaviour and what was wrong with me, whereas the truth is… just a nasty bully.

Pi
Pi

This! I had a similar realisation – a trusting fish not really comprehending that ppl actively set out to damage you because it’s not in your realm of things that someone could do – so we assume it is us – then one day realise that people can actually be self centred self serving mean nasty jealous whatever – light bulb moment – suddenly we realise we are actually better than we thought we were. It was them all along
Madness

McFish
McFish

Yes and when you fully comprehend ithe madness, blessed sanity descends.

Pi
Pi

It still confounds me, how caught up someone can be in their envy or whatever that they spend so much time trying to destroy someone else instead of taking a big fat look in the mirror.

McFish
McFish

I’ve read your reply several times, Invicta and I get more each time. The healing thing is something I need to appreciate more in this time of sparseness, as you put it. Sparseness is my new buzz word!!! I hadn’t considered the Saturn Chiron aspect ongoing but of course! It’s a time to lick wounds, heal, wait, lie low. Just letting Time Lord Saturn do his thing.

Pi
Pi

Yes. Wow.

scorpiosnaquarsng
scorpiosnaquarsng

Merc-Pluto in Sagg in the 11th house. Cut off all contact with a ton of people, including my taurean “best friend” and a tres charming but very problematic leo guy, got real about finances and started focusing on my work. It’s incredible what removing certain people out of your life/mind can do to your health, skin, energy and bank account lol

scorpiosnaquarsng
scorpiosnaquarsng

Also been sober for 10 months now. Clarity indeed.

Girlscoutkatie
Girlscoutkatie

Kudos!

Also I can relate to cutting off contact with lots of people, including some of my closest friends. I thought I was the only one, this makes perfect sense now.

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

LOVING the daily mystic for tuesday…this fire vibe…..just realised- im sure i have a grand fire trine….saturn in leo, moon aries, and neptune in sagg…whoop!
oy yeah and i did try being normal and no, it didnt work out….LOL

marsbar
marsbar

I have been in almost non-stop Saturn on some shit part of my stellium since 2008. Its hard to know when when the lessons start and when theyve ended, it honestly feels like non stop lessons. 🙁 things did start to improve by winter 2016 so i am not unhappy. Life has just been weird.

CleverUserID
CleverUserID

i don’t understand how this applies to me … i have a sag moon, 3rd house.

it is the one of the aspects of my chart i understand the least. and yet, my life has undergone metamorphic changes since 2014. so i guess it is connected, but i don’t really understand how, :-/

i’m still drained from this dark moon just passed. it really did a whammy on me. holy cow. maybe i’ll understand more later. but help would be appreciated. i can’t seem to brain today.

AquaArcher
AquaArcher

Zero degree Sag ascendant, with Saturn pinging my exact Uranus/ASC conjunction, squaring my (exact) Pisces Mars, plus squaring my Pisces Mercury and Moon these past few years too.

There are no words.

Thanks, Saturn. Deep bow to you.

Pandora
Pandora

Heal thyself. Walk the talk. Trust your instincts and base decisions on how it FEELS: dont psychologise or philosophise them away, or guilt trip yourself out of them. Adjust boundaries, buck monkeys off your back, and trample on them too, if they didn’t get the hint. Be ruthless like Saturn when you have to be. Don’t let hard-won experience and realism extinguish hope and faith that joy and love are out there for you – or they won’t be. Dont create work for yourself by going big/deep when a deadline means skimming the surface/lack of originality/small scope will have to… Read more »

Saturn on fire
Saturn on fire

This! Every word including the images of Jupiter Am in the hard press of this with Saturn on my sun, learning how to accept responsibility for myself and issues that are self generated, but also learning how to let go of the things that are not my responsibility. Am trying to recover from a lifetime of uber flakiness and flying by the seat of my pants and actually operate with some semblance of a plan. Am currently revolutionizing my diet. Progress is of the slow and steady variety. Sometimes that feels gruelling, sometimes it feels elegant and stately. Am feeling… Read more »

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

All this. Yes.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

love these

pearl
pearl

???? Great key points

Electro
Electro

Lovely! Perfection is not worth the loss of down time and take no shit. Exactly.

Subetty
Subetty

As sagg sun and moon, love this!

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

will be glad to have saturn in cap…my tenth hse…i guess i’ll b working hard…and itll be out of my money hse…nice….

pearl
pearl

Sagg sun in 8th house, still not finding it easier even though I know I should…I know Saturn is right but my Taurus rising is sooo much more comfortable..any more suggestions to boot myself along with more enthusiasm..?

Virgonator
Virgonator

I’m not even remotely a sagg (though I was married to one… until this transit), but this is my saturn return in the seventh house. Also my Uranus is there. Maybe I’m more of a sagg than I think. It’s been a complete remake (still very much in progress) from the inside out and the ground up. I finished my degree. Dedicated to my spiritual path (I accidentally did that the exact day transit hit my natal Saturn). Healed a devastating illness. Decided I’m here on earth for the duration. Had to learn to move my body again (still working… Read more »

Virgonator
Virgonator

Oops, meant to finish the sentence: deeply explored all my crazy issues that were hiding in my marriage, including the fear is literally die without him. Turns out I didn’t die. Just very content on my own for the first time ever in my life.

Avista
Avista

I have learned that I have not yet recovered from the actual PTSD that was my Saturn Return in Libra… Please can’t we skip Saturn in Capricorn (my Sun sign), I’m already having a difficult enough time!!!

Five Arrows
Five Arrows

Scarily unfit Sag stellium gets bored easily. Saturn transit says, CrossFit – it’s always a different workout. Sag says, why not? Loses 10kgs and can now deadlift more than her bodyweight. Saturn says, oh yes, we’ll get along just fine…

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

woohoo – thats awesome!

Sylver Silph
Sylver Silph

woah inspiring 😮

Invicta
Invicta

I have yet to master brevity?

TripleL
TripleL

LOL. It’s all good. Sleep well, Invicta. 🙂

Pi
Pi

Brevity schmevity.

TripleL
TripleL

Exactamente!

Invicta
Invicta

In other news I AM GINGER ( hear me whinge:) That should be roar but well, it’s just a rumble right now because going out a buzz cut from shaving my head once a month is a painfully slow process when you decide to stop shaving it (or Venus stations direct again and your sartorial choices make drunk driving look sensible. Its murder on the ego in a good way, long term. Yawn. Like being trapped in whatever your bespoke version of fitness hell is. For me that’s like boot camp or a spin class with hysterical screaming and pumping… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Hey. I love stone wash double denim. #Geminirising

Ps. Get some sleep.

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I’ve become more cautious?

Invicta
Invicta

Return of the king. I like the sound of that. Interesting post. I’ve had the feeling of turning a major corner in my fool/ heroine’s journey building all week but super strong on Friday and these past 12 hours. It’s been a tapestry of emotional realisations like falling stars or looking at the haul from mining the bog of eternal stench. Some of what I’ve found has made me so sad but more of a hello hope, goodbye denial kind of thing. I feel more now than I ever have and experience life instead of defending against it. I’m sure… Read more »

BLatio
BLatio

Right on point. I thought I was losing my personality but I guess there is a reason why I have quit drinking and chainsmoking everyday and being so caught up in day dreams about “success” of what could be.. Pining to be someone that people admire and listen to. Being very afraid of endings.. These things have defined my personality for MORE than 2 years.. And its sort of an uncomfy feeling I’m sure will only get better with time. I’ve learned alot about self sufficiency and that I can’t keep running away when things get difficult. No significant other… Read more »

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

Totally resonate with your second paragraph. It’s been about self-sufficiency in all areas. Especially emotional self-sufficiency.

Invicta
Invicta

So much this

Pisces Sun & Moon
Pisces Sun & Moon

Sag in my 1st house… complete identity change. Not at all the person I used to be. Super on point with my life purpose. Next stop… my 2nd house where I have 5 major planets & my Saturn Return. The Saturnine makeover continues!

Jokerman
Jokerman

What Pisces is ever the person they used to be?

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

Where to even start?..Nothing is the same. Im happy now with the new direction imposed on me through being seriously derailed by the Saturn transit to my 6th house Libra stellium. Saturn through my Sagg stellium (straddling 7th & 8th house) has finalised the rebuild and fine tuned the recalibration. Once upon a time I literally danced on tables, jumped on aeroplanes with only the vaguest idea of where they were going and fell in and out of love with the phase of the moon. These days it’s all balancing accounts, decluttering and watching back to back Dr Who while… Read more »

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

i just thought of a heap of other stuff -all variations of “invest your time wisely”…not sure if I’m actually doing it but highly aware of when I’m not..

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

I like your list. As a Sagittarius rising, I have a hard time with #6. Jupiter chart ruler makes it seem like good times are always near at hand. But I have danced with that concept a bit…I think my version of that is “There is no solace in others.” Which incorporates, for me anyway, 3, 4, & 6 of your list.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

yeh, looking back over that list I think it might sound harsh, but I don’t feel it like that. It’s almost comforting to know that on one hand your life is your own responsibility, but on the other you can be dealt some really heavy blows that are totally not your fault. Being ok with the paradox is very relaxing and frees you up to just get on with things…

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

Saturn is realistic AF. 🙂

Unicorn Sparkles
Unicorn Sparkles

Not harsh at all. I read it more as an affirmation/pep talk.
🙂

Sylver Silph
Sylver Silph

Agreed on every point!

F
F

Love it, not harsh at all – succinct!

Holly W
Holly W

I have learned a fair bit, though the last 6 months have felt like I consolidated it all in a very inconsistent way. I have been wondering though, since my ascendant is in Capricorn what does this mean for the shifting Saturn transit beyond the obvious- any thing I should be thinking about in particular? I’m more than ready for this I think….

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

I recommend Saturn in Transit by Erin Sullivan to fill in that knowledge. Saturn across the ascendant is a significant aspect. I have no doubt you are ready for it since yours is Cap.

My experience of Saturn across asc into my Sagittarius first house was a real dialing in of what I could do versus what I thought I could do as well as a great deal of hermit time in the cave. Lots and lots of rest. Without guilt.

Gemricorn
Gemricorn

Gosh, I have that coming too but meaning it’s currently in the 12th house… I thought THAT was the solitary cave time!!

sphinx
sphinx

NN in Saggitarius/7th House As could be expected, I have learned a lot about myself in conjunction with others via my relationship with parents, my siblings, my children – all of them as individuals, because there was no way to have a relationship of trust without there being personalised responses. And I have had to reevaluate friends and realised my impact on others, their impact on me – even my relationship with Spirit has had ups and downs! All in all I have restructured the family dynamics by managing changes that impact us all. They are people who didn’t trust… Read more »

batshley
batshley

7th house Sag cusp here! Saturn on my DC (opposite Chiron on my AC), with Sag Uranus, Moon, and Cap Mars conjunct in the 7th. It hasn’t been easy, but it’s been worth it. If I looked back on myself from December 2014 to me now, I wouldn’t recognize myself. It is honestly like having your brain swept clean of malware and having Capricorn/Saturn programs installed. Granted, the computer had to start going haywire before I bothered to start looking at it but OMG how could I ever go back? I wouldn’t, and I couldn’t even when I wanted to… Read more »

TripleL
TripleL

Fo shizzle.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

“brain swept clean of malware” – that is so apt!

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