Bride Of Saturn

Filed in Saturn

This IS a classic Saturn transit moment.

There is always ONE task that you fling yourself into with fervor, the sudden desire for functional structures, intense clarity, a proper plan and well, yes, fabulous cabinets.

It is usually more that you’ve got your Saturn Vision assessing the entire terrain of your life all of a sudden, as opposed to some chilly Saturn wind. In fact, it’s more like you’re a sci-fi character having some internal microchip activated.

Unplanned and on the very DAY of my Saturn Return, I got an accountant. It felt urgent. Previously i had attempted to get out of any conversation involving anything of an accounting nature, it felt like an allergy.

Anyway, Saturn (and Uranus!) are big in May and the May Monthly Horoscopes are posted!  The whole month is like an existential crisis turned opportunity, as you will see!

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Invicta
Invicta

So I’m feeling a bit self conscious now because yeah, that’s me in the sidebar. Fortunately I’ve never had religion so Michael Stipe is welcome to it but since I’ve been whining about my transits and bleating on about how dreadful and unfair lifer is so much I just wanted to take a moment to share the gratitude and wonder I’ve been sort of surrounded and buoyed by all night. No, sleep and I are on a break and insomnia and I got back together this weekend so I’m still in the honeymoon phase of it all but seriously- this… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Usually takes 36 -48 for any physical-mental-emotional trauma (of any kind)
to show. The symptoms vary, all degrees, depending on sensitivity.
Perhaps take a country trip as soon a you are free-er. Why not go for train ride to Glastonbury and look up William Bloom while you are there.
Wales or Cornwall?
As a Saggi thing….leave it all behind to sort itself out while you breathe some sweet air.
Bankruptcy is hideously restrictive, yet so is debt for the morale.

The Arien Gen x i watch over texted me the other day ‘it sux being a love goddess’. Love it lol 🙂

Invicta
Invicta

Thinking about relocating to Brighton if I can swing it.
London is stupidly expensive and I have never felt at home here
Ocean is calling me

Ms.
Ms.

“so focused on my financial situation that I´d completely overlooked the emotional bankruptcy”
that was the theme of my zapzone, easy to do when we separate and compartmentalise everything. I was born deeply emotionally wreckless so this lesson took ages to get because I had associated abandon with freedom as I´ve been good with not getting into debt but missing the whole gambling aspect of my sag moon sq jupiter, venus-neptune conjunction square saturn as exactly that.

Invicta
Invicta

The recklessness is so much more of an entrenched pattern of denial and learned helplessness that I realized yes. The money is like one head of that hydra.

BlancaMM Member
Blanca

Oh, Carrie, I relate. Just had Saturn transit my Venus in Sag last year, followed by my Asc in Sag (Saturn went back and forth over them a few times, for extra measure, I suppose). This kicked off a slew of Saturn transits I face for the next four years. My loaded first house includes Sun, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn. Then Mercury in Cap in the second house. (Why, yes, I am a child of the late 80s. Thanks for asking!). I’m quite excited to kick off my first Saturn return in Feb. 2018. The Venus/Asc Saturn transits… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Ha
Just checked my transits and Chiron Opposite Pluto started today.
Ah yes, no wonder I’m feeling so calm. Napalm in the morning kind of calm.
Another one for the collection.

Invicta
Invicta

It’s such a relief honestly to find it’s not just me who feels the Saturn – Chiron thing so intensely.
I was beginning to believe it might just be some strange unidentifiable malaise and the rest of the world was sipping cocktails and posting photoshopped selfies while exhaling their status updates in squeaky helium voices.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Invicta Soul Sis,
Thanx for the acknowledgement of ma neck. After thousands of hours doing bodywork, 20 years of it, ten years of ballet, 30 lessons of pilates, 30 of yoga (all private tuition may i be Cap rising about) but now simplified to regular stretching & dog walking, can say if one has survived the those strict teachers,and the only glitch structurally is a dicky neck, then fill me full of gratitude 🙂
You too! The price for such flexibility and stamina is minor oui? What you have gained warrants much praise.
Keep smiling x

Invicta
Invicta

X

Invicta
Invicta

I might have misunderstood the material I read but random google stalking of Chiron – yeah I know..but is it true he was Saturn’s (Kronos) son and borne of rape?
It made so much sense when I read that!

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

“Saturn square Chiron makes it literally impossible for you to overlook flaws or dysfunctional dynamics in any relationship”. Oh dear lord.
In the past weeks – and it’s getting stronger and stronger – I have been feeling as if I walk around wirhout my armor. Actually, without my own skin to protect me. So every fight, dysfunctional dynamic or painful scars between 2 peeps hurt me as if I was one of them. Which means I probably am.

Invicta
Invicta

This is pretty much verbatim what I was going to write and what I have been expressing verbally to myself and a very select few other people this week. Isn’t it an interesting barometer of whether someone who asks how you are is at? In terms of their intention and level of self awareness? I’m not expecting everyone to feel exposed and vulnerable simply because I do but it’s interesting when they ask how you are but don’t want to know. I’ve noticed people who aren’t genuinely interested or who have a shady reason for making contact are incredibly threatened… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Sorry I mistyped that.
I meant to say, an interesting barometer of a person’s intentions towards you and whether they want to know how you are or are just using it as conversational lube?
I squished my sentences…

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

wow mystic – the illustration for todays email is beautiful – made me feel better about the all-nighters Ive been pulling recently 😀 And the Marcus Aurelius quote is magic. I got up around 5 the other morning to do my tai chi/chi kung practice and went outside for a change – it was still dark, the stars were bright, the air was crisp and ” dust of earthly life” was truely washed away – I have never felt so cool and crystal clear, on all levels…star light is my favourite <3 <3 <3

PiMM Member
Pi

sounds v amazing.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

it really was..

BLISS WITCHMM Member
BLISS WITCH

I have five planets in Sagittarius. All my structural work has been to get me more freedom- but oh! the forms! oh bureaucracy!

Kim SMM Member
Kim S

Mais oiu even a starry night and a new moon can fuel enough dreams for utopian aspirations

PiMM Member
Pi

Is there something in the air that is triggering something very scorpy-vibing? you should see my playlist right now. or am i having a flash of haute-emo neptune / mars. <3

LOL typo mrs instead of mars. Neptune Mrs… bride of neptune? ha. scuba gear and dive knife at the ready.

Ms.
Ms.

pluto. I can feel it

Invicta
Invicta

So much Pluto in the air….yes. Like a primal drum in the distance just thundering away ominously

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Bring it on May

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

My version of this was going out and buying the sideboard of my dreams with my last $$$ -who needs to eat? (it was on sale…). Re-Kondo -ing (started letting stuff creep in) has had to be put aside for the duration of an assignment I have been ignoring but I am itching to get back to the organising my cupboards (omg where is my life???) Thanks to this post and the comments Ive just realised I have a backlog of situations I’ve been ignoring where I need to point out some boundaries to others (sigh). Ridiculously Long Ago Ex… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

yep. their tantrums are Not Your Problem

PiMM Member
Pi

my theory being “sort your shit out and learn to communicate like a grown-up, then maybe we can talk”

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

yes! “Not Your Problem” – if I did cross stitch I’d make a little hoop thingy of that and hang it on the back of the toilet door…in fact I might just write it out in texta and stick it on the back of the toilet door..

PiMM Member
Pi

hahaha! love the cross stitch idea 😀

remember i can sound all hard-ass cap moon but i am also a pisces so i kind of veer between “nope” and “yeah i really understand / sympathetic noises”

but most of all if someone is giving you static about choices You make for Your health and wellbeing, well, fuq em. that doesn’t sound like respect to me. good luck! hope everyones comes through the right way in the end.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Neck pain as well, exacerbated at change if season. Medic said arthritis, but my not an arthritic sorta person. Feel the need for cranial adjustment or chiro. A new Memory Foam pillow gives some relief, but yeah, ‘Saturn neck’s a bitch as it impinges on morale, sure seems a manifestation of Chiron-Saturn uncomfortableness. Have found A Peroni at 6pm (beer o’clock) helps and now beer has been proven to be better than a pain pill, but 2 pints of it! Waaay too much for my size. Apparently works on the anxiety that hurting causes. Downside is liver damage although painkillers… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

I recon a Peroni beats the hell out of a pain pill.
Hopefully it will ease up a little now.
If it’s inflammation then both those options would make it worse for my body. I remember when my shoulder went all Saturn Chiron on me at the beginning of my Chiron square Ascendant and opposite my sun in April 2015 and again in March 2016 during some other Saturn -Chiron induced lifestyle restructuring event.
It’s a father and Sun – er son bone crunching team hey?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Saturn has just crossed into my 5th, finishing up aeons of Saturn and Mars going through my 4th. Only now am I considering remodelling my house although I’ve been here for nearly three years. Currently getting quotes for a new bathroom, kitchen and outdoor area to make the place 100 per cent right for me. I feel like I’ve been squatting, or house-sitting for someone else – on some unconscious level waiting for the phone call from my old life to tell me it was all a dream and I can go home now. Something has certainly shifted and now… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Holy shit chrysalis, “on some unconscious level waiting for the phone call from my old life to tell me it was all a dream and I can go home now.” This is the space I have been in for the last few months. I’m wondering if it is the dark side of what can be an impossibly duty-bound Capricorn moon, enslaving us emotionally to non-fulfilling environments. Strong words I know, but when I examine my own schtick in the context of other ways of being, I find that I’m getting better at seeing the cracks in my own brittle argument… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I wonder if it’s the combo of Neptune / Saturn / Chiron action in Pisces making us super-sensitive and aware of the effect the worldy choices can have on a fish psyche? Pluto is half way through Cap now so must be affecting your moon (late-ish Cap if I remember rightly.). My Cap moon is 15 degrees and I felt the effects pretty soon after he moved into Cap. He will be agitating for greater authenticity even if you aren’t sure what it looks like yet. I totally get where you are at with the ‘getting in touch with much-earlier… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

thanks – i’d like to keep the cube farm, toxic as it is, a little longer but changes are afoot … not keen to be broke again just at this point either. good luck with the cap moon plan X thanks for the pluto moon pep talk too. i have so many issues with Mother and related concepts that I have tried my best to confront and take apart, coming off the back of a pluto square and IC square, & uranus pluto IC opposition, i would like to hope that i’ve really gone through a lot of this now.… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

OH GOD Saturn-moon yes, that’s coming up. LOL. SOS. (Sick of Saturn)

Broke is no fun. They can keep their starving artist BS. I think it was Julia Cameron who said (more eloquently obvs) how can anyone produce their best work when they are awake at night worrying about how they will pay their rent. xx

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Work at night?

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Errrggghhh SOS ans SOC. Just realised Chiron is EXACT my degree Piscean Sun. I’m just not my own best mate, feeling so over myself! And lonely, for no real actual reason. My forays into social life are not bringing my good self with, it’s like she left to go to the islands and have fun, but she’s not writing postcards! I’m sensitive and tired, waah waah and i even hate my complaining right now. So thanks, you guys make me feel i’m piscean-not-alone xx Goddess almighty, how LONG does Chiron take to move off degrees??? Bride of Saturn and Kid… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Oh Lordy I’m so feeling this. Can I join in this cathartic wail?

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I’m thinking good stuff. Saturn & Uran are Grand Trining my Merc Cj Uran.

“The bus comes when its boiled.”

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

er what?

Ms.
Ms.

metaphor mash up?

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

FIIK

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I think what I meant to say is “never cross your bridges till they’re hatched”.

I’m my kookiest when I’m emotionally assailed. My shell is made of a material, not yet invented, generated by chart ruling bucket-handle Aqua Moon opp Merc cj Uran.

I’m also traversing the Wide Sargasso Sea.

pi
pi

pouring oil on troubled chickens perhaps.

Twin-geminiMM Member
Twin-gemini

You posted monthly horoskopes the day before your usual post- yay! Thank you MM. I am DONE with April – thank you and goodbye. What a rollecoastet it has been. Every single week – I found the job – I lost the job. Started new study – coarse got canned. Doors were opening and slam shut in my face. I got up and dusted myself off. Waited for Venus to station and then did my hair. ‘Reality- checked my entire life, put new plans in place. This is My month and I am ready for it!

Ms.
Ms.

I hear this. Seriously rollercoaster is right. I´ve had the same but different scenario, everything has changed, radically, and its taken all of my energy just to mentally and emotionally navigate through it. I´ve been hustling like a demon to push for housing and employment sans the ropeo people keep trying to put around my neck. My whole mission back from Asia was to create a more peaceful lifestyle but I think ive worn out my entire adrenal glands in 4 weeks. Reality check, noble intentions. Here´s to building better foundations and not going crazy

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

I detailed my car…the deluxe version- vacuumed, washed, paint chips painted and next up is the wax

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Chiron just passed its natal self and is now smack-bang on top (conjunct?) you guessed it SATURN, and I have a pain in my neck that no-one can be bothered to rub out, might have to pay for it.

Saturn and Chiron in Pisces 2nd H and Aqua rising

Feeling like I need to be “realizing that if I don’t put my body through acute stress, my body will experience chronic stress.”

LiliMM Member
Lili

Gem Moon goes void at 27 Gem Opposite Saturn on Galactic Center and square Chiron- 5:30 ish PM EDT. So my mum used to warn of “The tyranny of the weak.” (With DT it is a great pun.) Chiron can be your Achilles tendon, but also where you expect extra attention, treatment, because of your schtick. As In: You are so much better at cooking and have a gorgeous house, why don’t you host again.”- ATM avoiding frantic calls from Toro distant fam- calls hourly- now calling my teens too. Learned the hard way- she calls- demands constant attention. My… Read more »

Annabell
Annabell

The entire month of April has felt like an existential crisis.?

RubentMM Member
Rubent

Hahahaa, last page I was on before coming to this article was my Google search for Ops, Saturn’s wife.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

lol i had this moment last wk…
suddenly had the urge to sort and clean everything on the top of my cupboards…i was soo focused i was topless! yes, topless cleaning!
my boyfriend said it was the last thing he expected to see…he enjoyed the wobble lol…think it was a period thing tho, coz i got it a few days ltr…there was a bit of a manic element to it lol, like i was possessed…not sure abt the astrology of it lol…

flowerchild
flowerchild

Chiron return with Saturn squaring natal Chiron……..yay!

Chiron in 10th and Saturn transiting my 6th. Definitely dealing with some health issues right now but it’s long term chronic stuff coming to a head, and I’m finally getting some help and insight on it all, and there have been improvements. Work and career are f**ked right now….I don’t have much income, and I’m trying to go into a new career direction.

And….haha, some house improvements are happening, too, though through big big battles with landlords. There will be a completion on all of this soon, though, and I’m looking forward to that!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

No way, this is totally me. We are at the tail end of a kitchen remodel and my life HAS gone south while my handmade custom hickory cabinets are total badass. This project has been going on for six months and has been more expensive and more stressful than I imagined. Now that we’re cleaning up and finishing up while trying to get back to normal, I feel like I have been in a time warp where time stood still in the back ground while I attended day to day matters. Saturn has been in my second house: opposed my… Read more »

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

i just became a homeowner a year and a half ago and my kitchen is mostly fine and i can’t afford renos currently. but every single day for the past couple of weeks all i can think about is remodelling it. i have done a few minor things like get new furnace grates for the floor and that is wonderful, but wow every imperfection is right in my face right now.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

We had to do the kitchen, the cabinets were starting to fall apart. We did it as inexpensive as possible but it always ends up being more with those little ‘nickel and dime’ expenses. It’s fun to daydream and look for inspiration while you wait though.

Ms.
Ms.

Looking forward to the opportunity part of this crisis. I have so much to actually get on with beyond this abusive company relationship I am trying to get out of and now the house with the “now I have my chance no one else is home for a week” creepy housemate BS. I am emotionally and mentally exhausted. Days are like weeks right now and not to mention the dicks from my past casually texting me. Can they smell my stress or something and hope I will cave? other people have disappeared entirely. My nice cabinet is my ass from… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

I am laughing WITH YOU. Laughing too strong. Smiling wryly along is better. But there’s a relief in getting to this site after a week of feeling like conversational pity party looking for a location and deftly avoiding all human interaction that I can because ugh when I converse with other earthlings and sorry but yes, particularly the male variety I feel like the only person who isn’t high on spacedust or chilled on benzodiazepines or drinking the proverbial coolaid and chanting positive mantras in Tony Robbin’s voice. And I don’t believe any of the people I know are into… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

It’s YOU INVICTA- you’re the one drinking the coolaid not them!

Ms.
Ms.

I had a fair bit of Ra to get out there, yeah boundary awareness and constant negotiations/conversation where there should just be a line going YO, I´m a line.

Some times our feelings are correct and some days you need to avoid interactions with some people because you know its going to be bollucks. I´m just always amazed when its on your terrain stuff. I kicked difficult interpersonal a long time ago but I have less control over house-work so I´m replanting. Hopefully things get more chill for you too

Invicta
Invicta

Yo, I’m a line

monte
monte

I’m not getting the DMs at the moment so I don’t know what they’re saying, but I find it interesting that you are not commenting on Saturn square Chiron here. It is almost exact at the moment. It’s the second pass of three – the last one was over the xmas new year period. The last in November I think. I am in the natural healing field and very old pain is absolutely front and centre at the moment. Has been for weeks. People are being triggered all over the place. World unrest has accelerated. The US chart has been… Read more »

embarkons7MM Member
embarkons7

The Saturn-Chiron business is a major theme of the horoscopes right now, and has been in the daily emails as well.

Your post made me think about how I’ve been getting really proactive about tackling some lingering upper back/shoulder pain over the last week, which feels wonderful and like part of a deeper healing (I started to have it a few years ago during Saturn in Scorpio death/rebirth time, and it’s been where I’ve held stress ever since).

monte
monte

Good to hear the DMs and horoscopes are over it. To me it has been the theme for the year. It’s good what you’re doing with the shoulder. Kudos.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

That is so interesting what you say about very old pain. The last couple of weeks my old ‘Saturn neck’ has returned, triggered by a couple of nights at my parents’ place on the very uncomfortable spare bed. I lived with this pain for years and years before finally sorting it as Saturn began transiting through my 4th (first square my Venus then my sun-Saturn then my Chiron) with a combo of total life reconstruction and starting a mode of bodywork. The bodywork has transformed me inside and out, and led to the best fitness I’ve ever had but the… Read more »

monte
monte

Chrysalis, I think with most of us, our deepest ache IS emotional. I love being a body worker. It’s so honest.

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I’m a body worker too…I’m taking dents out of my Kombi

Pegasus
Pegasus

When i say i’m a bodyworker most think i do cars instead of people..lol.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

u crack me up pf

Year of the PhoenixMM Member
Year of the Phoenix

NEW realisation just reading your comment – I have started to read about Shock Wave therapy to treat the spinal spurs i have, anyone tried it?

Year of the PhoenixMM Member
Year of the Phoenix

I completely agree re old pain realisation- this weekend it has dawned on me that the reason I have such a strong reaction to the difficult person at work and I can almost anticipate how the will behave is because it is exactly like my abusive ex husband

The lying, twisting things around so the are never to blame, the speaking to me with utter contempt, the physical intimidation, the slovenly environment they create, all of it just like him…. NOW I see

I have made a plan (thanks Time Lord) and am feeling much better now (thanks Chiron)

pi
pi

ugh. Now you know. Good realisation to have there. Good luck and strongness to you.

Year of the PhoenixMM Member
Year of the Phoenix

Thanks Pi xx

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

This is my entire life! ?

Lemberley
Lemberley

A thousand times YES. Saturn is right on my Sun, and I’m relishing every moment of it.* I’ve been studying Saturnine methods of self improvement from hardcore strength training to the Wim Hof method. Crafting grueling exercise regimes, studying proper form, and analyzing the musculature of the body.

I feel as if I’m walking around in a totally new body and mind; the transformation has been both physical and mental. I feel reborn. I’m realizing that if I don’t put my body through acute stress, my body will experience chronic stress.

*Saturn is my ruling planet. Your results may vary.

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

I’m definitely going to look into this (I have a lotttt of Saturn in my chart) and I feel a desperate need for physical discipline but haven’t found something that really grabs me yet. Thanks!

Lemberley
Lemberley

Best of luck to you! I’m hesitant to discuss this with friends and coworkers because I understand how insufferable it can sound to someone on a different path. And yet, I also see how helpful it is to watch others willingly submit to the Saturnine discipline.

I feel you on the chart makeup. I’ve got four planets in Cap (including Saturn) in the first house, and a Cap rising. So this transit woke up something elemental within me.

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Typing that comment actually brought it home to me just how much I’m craving discipline. I’m coming up to my first Saturn return, my Sun, Venus, Saturn (snap!), Neptune and Uranus are all in Cap, so the Saturn influence in my life is huge and even more so right now! I rebelled against it for years but strict routine and discipline do work incredibly well for me (when I can be bothered to implement them…)

This has given me the inspiration back to reform my life and embrace my Saturnine side.

serpentinegrace
serpentinegrace

Same here with the Saturn on my sun, plus Cap stellium. Same with the discipline – I took up serious weight training and powerlifting even, the moment Saturn even began to hover near Sagittarius. The discipline and the acute stress does help. Also, structure. Especially at home. Bats for a Sag but hey..

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

i’m in the same boat, y’all. saturn, neptune, and uranus in first house cap. usually abhor structure but am also wildly craving it and so just feel frustratingly stuck. one hundred percent need to implement a fitness regime to
combat chronic mundane stress. thank you for this!

Ms.
Ms.

I took up weight training properly last year/2015 and its the best thing ever. The discipline and eating structure has given me life when everything else is crazy I feel so at peace in the weight room like a zen practice its great and strangely spiritual on a certain level-? seeing consistant results and creating a strong mind body practice that builds me in a way mentally yoga does not.

Invicta
Invicta

I have never had such a strong urge to go to the IRON as therapy again as now. I have started very gently and slowly but the benefits to my system- psychological and hormonal were instant. It’s shock how effective two twenty minute sessions of weights are during Saturn -Chiron induced wobbles. I think there’s something pertinent in the process of lifting a heavy iron weight and tearing the muscle to grow and gaining strength during the rest period. It just works.

Ms.
Ms.

agreed, I´ve been doing a very slow growth build into this and its amazing for a mental tear and rest process like you say. Saturn Chiron Mars for sure

Invicta
Invicta

I am enjoying the misery of grit lately and tutting to myself that I’m a bit annoyed I never understood earlier how character forming the whole Saturnine thing of grit is. I have the gassiest, most punch drunk on hubris type of chart imaginable and no experience of Saturn whatsoever but I am relishing the hardcore THIS IS WHAT MAKES A CHAMPION vibe of being broke, unhappy and as down as it’s possible to be and finding the will to prevail. It’s a great realisation that I don’t need to feel good or be satisfied or even happy to persist.… Read more »

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