Asteroid Thais

Thais was a courtesan of Ancient Athens and constant companion of Alexander the Great, traveling the world with him. She was said to be extremely loud, learned and eloquent. Some say she was a musician, others that she was born into the Ancient Greek “Hetaria” class of women – a “cultured harlot” living outside the system. She was blamed for inciting the city of Persepolis to be set on fire during one of Alexander’s conquest junkets but that was probably not true. Six hundred years after her death the Christians tried to spin a story that she had repented of her ‘sins’ and walled herself up in a hovel but this was ridiculous.

From The Honest Courtesan;

If she ever was Alexander’s lover, she had ceased to be by 327 BCE; in the spring of that year he was smitten by the strikingly beautiful Roxana, Princess of Bactria, who married him and accompanied him until his death four years later.  Whether Thaïs had started with Ptolemy or not, it is certain she ended up with him and bore him three children named Lagus, Leontiscus and Eirene.  After Alexander’s death Ptolemy became the King of Egypt, but though he married Thaïs around this time she did not become his queen because he opted for a political marriage instead.

 

Her daughter Eirene, however, did become a queen as the wife of Soli, King of Cyprus.

Though history records a few minor references to her children, Thaïs herself lapses into obscurity after their births; we do not even know the year of her death.  Like so many people of pre-modern times we see her only in proximity to great events in which she was involved:  she emerges from shadow into the great circle of light cast by that burning palace, is visible while she crosses the area, and then vanishes again into the darkness on the other side.

Thais is also an asteroid – number 1236 if you want to look her up – currently in Scorpio at 3 degrees.  In astrology, i think she would function much like asteroids Scheherazade and Theodora – indicating spunk, soul-driven independence drives, wit, and resourcefulness.

So where is yours?

Image: Jean Veber

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hdq

Super cool. I have her exactly conjunct asteroid DNA on Aldebaran. I miss that era.

tw:leo

mine is at 9 libra (the only libra thing unless i count pars fortunae, which i don’t, cos i don’t really understand it) in a grand air trine with my gemini moon and aqua NN, and otherwise only in an exact square with neptune in the 1st. i love this: “…she emerges from shadow into the great circle of light cast by that burning palace, is visible while she crosses the area, and then vanishes again into the darkness on the other side.” i have been contemplating this lately; just as early as this morning whilst quietly washing dishes. perhaps… Read more »

tw:leo

for the record, the “changes” in peoples’ lives are positive, lol. afaik. it’s 110% what i aim for.

Lili

Natal 28 Kataka currently on my Scorp Neptune. Describes fav female writers and comediennes- whom I seek in such times.

emg

She’s in my 5th Cancer conj my sun and jupiter. Yup that’s about right!

Calli G

My Thais is at 16 degrees Libra, about 9 degrees from my Libra sun.

Kim S

With venus in retrograde does the person end up like kissing cousins or bees

Kim S

Having sex–what a point to be cut off

scorpiodawn

cultured harlot suits, lol

scorpiodawn

currently ON my uranus….but natally 17 scorp in seventh…conjunct my sun and merc..,awesome

dark star

Conj my 12th h Scorpio point of fortune..cool I will definitely integrate some loud eloquent leaned musician energy as part of my 12th Jupiter transit

toroloco

Are Holy Harlot asteroids somehow prevalent in the chart of someone who’s always the “other woman” or “third person” involved in a relationship? I attract that kind of muck without trying and ofc never meaning to. It’s a recurring theme I’m having to work through at the moment.
For example, my best relationships have been with men who were never even my boyfriends.

tw:leo

this totally relates to my point made below. i have been in numerous paramour situations, and i have great relationships with men, generally kind of briefly. fortunately (and deliberately) it has not caused me problems, besides occasional internal turmoil puzzling over whether it’s okay, and whether i’m okay with it.

flowerchild

Ah! Me too, I have had this theme in my sexual/romantic relationships throughout my life.

I’ve got a ton of asteroids in Scorp in my 5th house and Vesta conjunct Sun in Aqua in the 8th house. Wonder if these placements are the reason for it all..?

tw:leo

i have sun/arachne exact conjunct in the 8th house and they square vesta in the 5th and pluto in the 10th.

Sam

that’s a great question. Existing outside the couple duality, and having a mutually fulfilling connection anyway (however that takes shape, I don’t necessarily mean romantic/sexual). I really feel this actually, esp since this society is so thing about defining M-F r’ships solely in terms of sex and ownership.

LiberatingVenus

Conjunct Sun/Hygiea, LOL – explains *so much*! Asteroid bingo is FUN! These little guys/gals can have subtle but remarkable resonance in ways that provide details to really flesh out our personal “stories”. If you have one close to a personal planet or angle, their effects can be quite marked. Minor asteroids hit a bunch of things in my chart….Sun/Hygiea, Prometheus/Mars, Venus/Saga with Iris close, Moon/Pandora combined with Urania/Mnemosyne, Clan-Of-The-Cave-Bear Thereus/MC with Nietzsche also nearby for good measure…the list goes on! Dig the Ptolemy connection w/ Thais – for those who don’t happen to be familiar, he was the father of… Read more »

tw:leo

*salt bae*

LiberatingVenus

LOL

surlatable

I haven’t been around for asteroid fun for ages!

9 Aries. You know I was thinking I needed more energy in my stellium. So when I show up on his doorstep I’m a 40 foot glowing orb of intensity.

with a batch of cookies.

“Hey look so I’ve been thinking, sorry (not sorry) I’ve been under a rock for a while, but I’m now 100% sure I’m a consort and your chiron stuff is no match for this. Lets.go.”

Not even vaguely intimidating. Totally casual. I’ll wear a cardigan.

surlatable

“she emerges from shadow into the great circle of light cast by that burning palace, is visible while she crosses the area, and then vanishes again into the darkness on the other side”

I love this. I truly do.

tw:leo

i love this. i truly do

surlatable

<3

Sam

<3 obvs

surlatable

<3

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

In Leo, of COURSE, coz I am a bit, erm, loud.

flowerchild

She is conjunct my Neptune at 20 degrees Scorpio in my 5th house……sounds like a good time, perhaps? 😉 I’ve got some other asteroids in Scorpio in the 5th, too, such as Juno, Ceres and Psyche. So many female archetypes sitting around the same spot. Venus retro alert today — thinking of several guys I’ve recently dated and/or been lovers with and kind of wanting a little dalliance with all of them. I definitely won’t do it and I haven’t gotten in touch with them, nor have they with me, but it’s on my mind….maybe it’s just a general horniness..… Read more »

Sapphira

She’s at 15° Scorpio in my chart, one degree from my north node & smack in the middle of a 4th house/Scorpio stellium.
This discovery seems very apt as I’ve been urged through all manner of synchronicities to live life by my rules alone, especially in regards to any occult/alchemical/sexual-liberation leanings.
So shall it be.

vircanaqua

not related to this post but I was wondering if black holes affect our astrology and what kind of effect that black hole named Sagittarius A that is near the constellations Sagittarius and Scorpius will have/ is having.

Catherine

Interesting there is so little known about the effect of black holes, except that against all laws of physics they produce energy, and were you to survive a journey through one you would be time travelling! Thanks for info off to do more research

Meredith

My current astro-focus has me honed in on my Moon aspects, specifically: the ‘tougher’ aspects. Thais happens to be at 19° Pisces – in direct opposition to my Virgo Moon in the 12th. Soul-driven resourcefulness is a good way to describe my approach to my 6th house every day routines. She could be a good mirror for my 12th house, what a cool discovery. <3

Sam

Hey you have Pluto trine your moon too, right now. That’s a lot of cosmic oomph for your soul driven resourcefulness too maybe.

Z

My Thais is in 12 house Leo trine Neptune and sextile Pluto. Having hidden torrid affairs with the king for sure. Venus in Aqua ain’t clutching her pearls over that.

Ali

In my chart she’s in the 8th house at 22 Aries, conjunct my Venus, in exact opposition to my NN Libra. xx

Ali

Ooh… She’s close to Chiron at 29 Aries too, but he’s 9th house.

Nike Vk

HA — Asteroid Thais: Leo, 1st house, conjunct my natal MERCURY (Which is conjunct my 1st house Sun, trine my Aries moon/MC)

Loud, learned musician INDEED

Nike Vk

Double checked this, and it looks like I’ve got asteroid Scheherazade conjunct my natal MARS–2nd house Leo–

and asteroid Theodora in Sag, exact trine my natal Sun, trine my MC, which is conjunct my moon in Aries, also conjunct asteroid Magdalena–

holy harlots! LOL

Therese

Natally, she’s in 7th house Taurus, sextile Mars (and a few minor placements). She’s transiting my Scorpio AC.

Skarab

Natal Thais is pretty much at home lying amid my Leo 10th H stellium at the top of my chart – specifically between (&conjunct) Mars & Uranus ….. i’m thinking it’s a good thing to have a wise & canny female energy between these two rabble rousers.

phoenix36

Transiting now, she is on my North Node! MWAH!

12th House Virgo

She is on my natal 12th house Venus at 6 Virgo. Of course.

PlutoMoon

Holy crap, exactly conjunct my SN and Lilith!

dark star

Oo past life?

Fireandwater

Natally, she is exact conjunct my north node in Taurus. I love it. She is currently 2° away from my natal Pluto-Vesta conjunction in the 11th…what to make of all this?

Thanks for the fresh musings!

Fireandwater

I lay in bed last night singing my toddler to sleep as per our usual favorite, Itsy Bitsy Spider, & mulling over the three asteroids recently plugged into my chart. The two T women throwing Thor’s hammer over to Scheherazade in my first house. “Upheaval” is an accurate adjective for these days & times, in the little old microcosm of me. I imagine now the Phoenix, & it somehow shapeshifts….was it always an octopod? I see now Shakti as an industrious little insect, weaving tales like silken threads. She whispers even as she screams, and somehow it is all pure… Read more »

marsbar

Hmmmm,,,conjunct my jupiter in my first house. I am def not loud or particularly eloquent. She seems more like the Queen of Almosts missing her mark as queen but getting really close and even producing children who become royals. As my crazy mother likes to remind me, nobody remembers second place.

How would Thais be pronounced? Thay? It would be annoying to have people call it Ties.

Fireandwater

Maybe a surface second masks a first behind the set

Fireandwater

As the musings roll on, I keep hearing it in my head like “taste” that never quite hits the second hard consonant. I feel like this fits with the notion of her possibly being a director who appears only to play a cameo. Leaves you wanting more, getting just a little tas…

Sam

in my mind it is similar to Anais (i can’t do the double i dot thing on my keyboard). (as in Anais Nin)

sphinx

Thais is a nice name with the dot-dot. Anais too. She is 2nd House Leo, like my Sun. Trine my NN & Chiron. Perhaps it is very Leo but I resent the arc of her story line in that she is only interesting as attached to men and external events. She must of been really something though. Am not sure about a loud person being much good in a position of power. Usually they get others in trouble with their big mouth or are a bit of a buffoon or bully. Lindsey Lohan is like a modern travelling courtesan. Minus… Read more »

Electro

Alexander’s mother was a snake worshipper, I wonder if she was one too.

Boogeywookiie

The bio for brash and sassy Thais reads like young Madonna Ciccone hanging out in gay bars with her uncle.

pearl

Wasn’t Alexander gay? So she maybe was like Madonna..

LiberatingVenus

LMAO, love that framing of her narrative – Boogeywookiie FTW! Except that Madge went on to be a Queen in her own right.

Ale

Not sure how it is affecting me she’s in my 4th house a tile mercury, conjunct Mercury because HOme life has been unusually settled (yay!). Maybe the influence is the harmony I’m experience? It’s not affecting my love life, cause currently I have none! Yikes.

Sam

Another lady to add to my 10th house Aries pantheon.

Sam

on the midpoint between Eris and Venus. how about that for being on the spectrum between take-no-prisoners chaos goddess, and pleasantly alluring beauty queen type. lolz. hmm. well as a mutable, i do like the middle ground as a resting point from time to time

Sam

i think that I mistrust and underestimate Venus. personal history, y’see. any tips? le sigh.

Sam

venusian themes used against me, but also i am perceived as a threat – or an opportunity – when I embody the energy myself. Venusian energy in my life seems to come at a cost. ppl want something from you that you don’t really feel like giving, or, you’re attacked. unless it is entirely self contained e.g. in art – which is i mean like totaly not the point of venusian-ness right ? the whole ‘relating’ thing. the aphrodite meditation was good so maybe this is just a call to examine this further … and get back on topic i.e.… Read more »

Methinky

There sh Pe is! Conjunct Mars in Cancer 2nd with Lilith – I am a person with ‘gumption’. And look at her flaming through the via combusta – Venus coming back with a bit of pep. I feel in sync with this (toro rising, so….)

Methinky

Kerching! There she goes. Literal.

Catherine

Conjunct my ascendant in Scorpio at the moment…dashes across arena with flames burning behind in the night sky.

Catherine

Natal chart , she is conjunct my Jupiter /uranus conjunction in cancer in the 9 th. So yes always been a witch/sorceress then

CleverUserID

7 degrees Libra in my first, sextile my Sag moon. not sure what significance this holds.

MoonstoneMagnolia

Thais sounds mysterious & Scorpionic. My Thais 8degrees Gemini, snuggling Gem moon 4H, perhaps adding feistiness to writing and dry SOH. Eloquence, music to my ears

Jokerman

Another one in the Houses 1-6- with a lot in Leo thru to Scorp. This one tri-juncts my Merc Uran cj early in 2H.

Chrysalis

My asteroid Thais is at 3 Aqua, doing nothing in my chart. BUT transiting Thais is, as luck would have it, exact conjunct my Gary 🙂

If she was once Alexander’s lover, then she sure is down-dating in my chart right now. From Alexander the Great to Gary the Fkn Bewdy 🙂 🙂

Boogeywookiie

Gazza!! 😉

PlutoMoon

LOL

Skarab

Lol!
Bet Gary must be happy… & her wise counsel would maybe tone down his outright yobbishness & give him more of a yob-savant effect…. i would listen to your inner Gary right now.

Chrysalis

Yob-savant – genius – my new favourite phrase! Sadly I know quite a few people IRL who might fit this description

Sam

The (outdated but still functioning old school) Australian archetype is the yob-savant (aqua ish) offset by the capricornian landed gentry types.

Sam

Sidestepping the racist jerk gene pool ofc

Electro

I’m so glad your comment was first, lol.

Alouetta

Ha! I’m sure Gary would disagree with that comparison.

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