Venus Retrograde Relationships – The Retro-Venus Factory

Venus Retrograde relationships

Venus Retrograde relationships – that is – the ones that begin under this strange little astro-passage – are alluring, weird and cryptic by definition.

Will it last? You don’t know. Is it real? Depends what you mean by real. Is it alluring? Hell, yes. Venus Retrograde can bring soulmates together but it can also be a beautiful illusion. In the latter case, it’s merely a chimera, designed to catalyze your therapy. Only later will you look back, shaking your head, recognizing the dynamic in hindsight. We all have our karmic echoes and repeated lessons.

Ideally, follow the core rule of Retro-Venus. Don’t make love or beauty moves that would be tricky to reverse. These days we don’t have the time to even repent at leisure.

Why the hell, you may be wondering, does Retro-Venus feel so busy and power-tripped?  Should we not be lounging on sofas in Yin mode, viewing an internal montage of our previous love lives and murmuring elegantly at the brilliant insights?

These Days We Don’t Have The Time To Repent At Leisure

Something more akin to this may well occur when Venus whizzes back into the late dimension of Pisces but for now, it’s Venus Retro in Aries – the sign of the Warrior God – and a lot of your fabulous insights will occur via confrontations, control dramas and having to stick up for yourself.

The edge behind all this is also Pluto – Venus was nearly in square to Pluto when she went Retro and that perfects at the end of May.

And of course, Jupiter is now square Pluto – it may not start officially till March 20 but Pluto-sensitive people will already have felt the primal Pluto pulse, like distant drumming in the dead of the psychic night, insistent and getting louder.

Hedge Against Pluto Problems By Paying Attention To Your Inner Realm

When you’re not doing psycho-confrontations that bring insights re power dynamics and past love lives or revamping aesthetics and everyday rituals, a good “hedge” against Pluto problems is to pay attention to your inner realm.

It’s hard to do in Darwinian times but it will give you the edge. Accessing your deepest instincts beats trying to muffle or numb The Message. And as for the Venus Retrograde relationships or attraction scenarios, you won’t be able to ascertain the true measure of the thing until after Venus emerges from the Shadow Zone. To explain, when she gets back to the point she was at when she went Retro.

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JpGhost
JpGhost

That pic though..

Ms.
Ms.

maybe because its in my 10th but I am having to fight and stand up for myself but in a different way. like choosing a lifepath and lifestyle, style and expression? Im back at the gym and psyche mining on the go. feels good

leogroover
leogroover

Tick tick tickety tick. Been pinged on 3 fronts by heavy confrontational stiches. My ego got in the way big time so I was angry most of the week until I conquered each demon one by one pow pow aka Batman and Robin style. Pass me the demon bat ray gun Robin.. Feels sooo good now. Doing insight bootcamp today chillin as this fog descends on my house . So apt
Best thing this is return of the ex and nice safe chats at a nice safe distance 2000 kms lol

Jokerman
Jokerman

Does my orange underpants go with my blue leotards.

leogroover
leogroover

hell yeah. Men in lycra mmmmm

Starbaies
Starbaies

Im feeling it. Found out last month an old love interest of mine was shot and killed by his brother. He would have been my first bf if distance and college had not gotten in the way. I met him in 1999. I had lost contact with him for a long time and the last time I saw him was a few years back in passing. For some reason his death has really affected me the last month, and it wont go away. I also feel my experience with this guy is tying into my current love life as someone… Read more »

EnDeeMM Member
EnDee

I’m sorry to hear that Starbaies. Big love and hugs while you process and connect the dots xox

Starbaies
Starbaies

Tysm Nerimoo xx

krs3MM Member
krs3

Definitely feeling it — it stationed conjunct my Part of Fortune in my 8th. Makes me think, also, that the Part of Fortune is no joke.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Checked mine out & tr Neptune is conjunct my POF and square my Moon Neptune. Huh.

Thx for the heads up.

flowerchild
flowerchild

Confrontations, control dramas, having to stick up for yourself…….yep. I had to stick up for myself in situation with landlord and the City. We’ve had leaking roof all winter and they’re delaying fixing it, City is on them about it and we all had a meeting in which landlords were hostile towards me and it was like, WHAT?? It’s your building, your roof, nothing to do with me, and not my fault. I just live here, and have had to live with rain coming through the ceiling all winter! No one is going to make me a scapegoat! The City… Read more »

embarkons7MM Member
embarkons7

So speaking of Venus retrograde foolery, I ordinarily would’ve gotten my period around when Venus went retro this month but instead I’m getting it now — and thus switching my cycle from near the new moon to near the full moon. Now I read that stress during the first half of one’s cycle is most likely to cause delays. So this is probably about a couple of really hectic weeks earlier in February – but I do still think it is interesting Venus-wise. And I forget which menstrual pattern was the witching powered one on one with her was the… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Wow, that happened to me last summer. I woke up and was like WTF are those cramps? Two weeks early. I think it’s more of a moon call than stress TBH although stress could certainly affect it.

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

I am also loving this Venus retro so far. I feel like years of dumb automaton-style self-hatred and intimacy issues have suddenly been revealed to me in one fell swoop – the root causes, the symptoms, how to deal, all of it. I feel like that meme of Julia Roberts where she’s looking at all the equations. And people have suddenly started reacting to me differently! Two different people have told me how confident and self-assured I seem this week and the guy I have just dragged myself out of a two-year Love Zombie crush on (unavailable both literally and… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

A few peeps on this thread have had ex ‘s turn up now like me. What is that about? LZ finally let go of our psyche freeing up the ex to swoop just so we can tell them to go F*** emselves? or strategy 2. completely wipe them from our soul or Strategy 3. ignore them while chuckling with glee

leogroover
leogroover

another ex has just text. What is going on people? can someone explain?

Scorpy
Scorpy

Well done on squashing the Love Zombie crush. I did that last year. Mine was more of a 7 year crush. It was requited, and he was available but not emotionally or.. something to do with his venus conjunct Saturn in 12th house. Think he preferred to keep me as a fantasy and I wanted the reality. Then when he moved overseas I decided it was time to let him go. It was a really, really hard thing to do, but I did it.

So, well done.

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Thank you! And the same to you. It’s requires a remarkable amount of mental strength to free yourself from the clutches of an LZ.

Natalie
Natalie

That’s not Julia Roberts. ..

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Ah, mea culpa, you’re absolutely right! Shows how closely I look at things…

skarabMM Member
skarab

The feel of my chart is pointing towards underworld surveillance mode. Also NN is conjunct my Pluto. Sombre mood prevails. There’s a strange & strong sense that there’s someone/thing trying to contact me through my subconscious. Had a dream last night i was both a gardener & a general planning a vast garden with a queen who had a lion’s head & tail & spoke in roar-speech. I suddenly got very frightened as she let out an almighty roar that made every cell in my body zing – which is how i woke up – zinging. Checked out Sekhmet who… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

Just another thought: in April 2-3rd Ubasti will be conjunct retro Venus exact at 0º Aries…..time for mugwort.

PiMM Member
Pi

Your dream…wow! Goosebumps.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yes to the NN stuff. Conjunct my 2nd Pluto/Mars. I just can’t get traction on job, house n car.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Off music again for the most part. Listening to Hardcore History podcast by Dan Carlin. Ancient battles and war strategies over millennia.

Jokerman
Jokerman

How can you go off music? Is not music THE artform for us MoonNep types?

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I know, right? I just feel like getting cold hard facts or interesting discussions via podcast or video right now. Saturn still in my second, home to my Moon Neptune AND Saturn opposite my Venus Jupiter. Maybe Pluto in my 3rd influencing too? Too serious.

gogengoMM Member
gogengo

Me too!! Can’t stand music with lyrics these days (so weird), classical or chanting monks is the only thing that will do –

Or podcasts : so far: Missing Richard Simmons, How I Built This, Fresh Air, WTF, Rabbits. If I’m in my car NPR is the only station quiet enough for me

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Hey thanks for the podcast list! I mostly do Radiolab these days, plus the Dan Carlin my husband recommended. I’m listening to King of Kings and the whole thing is about 9 hours long but it’s making me feel connected and in awe of this long line of human history. I listened before and only got about 3 hours in but in this time and space I’m in for the long haul.

Scorpy
Scorpy

Saturn ruled. Serious here too. I get it Electro.

I have Sun conjunct Neptune so music is everything to me but I often go off it too – music with lyrics anyway. Especially if I’m really depressed.

I do listen to ambient every night – that does’t count right?

My natal Cap Asc square Libra venus maybe?

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I have a strong Saturn too, near my MC and amongst my Leo stellium. I’m absolutely in Saturn land, just having finished Saturn over my moon Neotune and opposing all my Geminj planets.

I also relate Saturn to a winter craving. The past two winters have been mild, and something deep in my soul needs a hard freeze with moonlight on a snow strewn landscape. Silence. If I don’t get it, it doesn’t feel right. So a bleak-ish podcast seems to help.

There will be plenty of time for music.

Scorpy
Scorpy

Haha!! indeed. Saturn land sounds good to me. Better than Uranus Land. At least you know what you’re getting with Saturn. And if you work had you usually get rewarded. Uranus pffffft. Pointless. As Prowln once aptly said Uranus is the clown that comes to a party to trash, trashes the joint then leaves”… Something alone those lines. I’m a fixed sign… don’t like surprises. “bleak-ish”. LOL You want more bleak-ish? Watch The Road. Love a good post-apocalyptic movie and sometimes I like to test my Bleak-ometer. Man, that movie is off the scale. I don’t think i can watch… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Saturn on your ascendant is the “fit and rich” transit, remember? I loved Saturn in my first (Scorp) house. Sag Moon, not so much.

I have Uranus conjunct my ascendant hahahaha… But it’s part of a t-square so he doesn’t have full reign.

Scorpy
Scorpy

Rich you say ***squeal*** I knew Saturn on Asc would be something to do with appearances / physical but I’ve never heard of the rich thing. I’m already slim (Cap Asc – naturally), but I wouldn’t really call myself fit and have zero interest in that area. Although I do eat well (mars in Virgo). I LOATHE gyms and hate sweating (venus Libra) Haha!!. I am menopausal, so Saturn on Asc transit could be mean skin getting get even drier and periods finally ending. Pretty excited about Jupiter in Scorp transiting my natal 10th house later this year. So that… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I read it here but I think it would take me too long to find it in the archives. I’m gearing up for Jupiter across the ascendant, which can put on the pounds.

Saturn is your chart ruler so I would imagine it would be positive in your first. Pluto, my chart ruler, crossed my ascendant when I was about 8, but I don’t remember anything cataclysmic happening.

Good luck x

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

I’m willing to bet the podcasters all have nice voices, though. I know there are some presenters I just cannot listen to, as their voice hits harsh tones or lacks melody, somehow. MoonNep type here, too.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I live “Pluto Pulses”…..just the flavour changes according to seasonal supply.
I also do Neptune Nebulosities and Uranian Urges.

Scorpy
Scorpy

“Pluto-sensitive people will already have felt the primal Pluto pulse, like distant drumming in the dead of the psychic night, insistent and getting louder..” I feel it. Hello! I’m a Scorp with a packed 8th house (Pluto, Uranus, Mars). Everything feels so heavy and bleak right now. Only a few weeks ago I was telling a friend how lucky I’ve been feeling this year. Things were just falling into place. I wondered if this was how life was for peeps with charts full of trines. My chart is full of squares, conjunctions and oppositions, so it was all new to… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

Venus retro brought us massively high winds, power outages and-

A Miracle

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/03/details_and_descriptions_of_mi.html#incart_gallery

In a March Madness basketball game, nationally televised-

After a nearly fatal aborted take iff in high winds

All equipment remained on the wrecked plane.

Micihigan whupped their opponents in–/

Warm up jerseys.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/03/details_and_descriptions_of_mi.html#incart_gallery

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

“Should we not be lounging on sofas in Yin mode, viewing an internal montage of our previous love lives and murmuring elegantly at the brilliant insights?” LOL. Well we are or – at least – I am. This is the quietest, most “zero action” Venus retro I’ve experienced in years. No longings, ghosts or – God forbid – ex lover return of any sort either. Not that I am not meditating or getting insights on power plays or couple dynamics but in a very general, non dramatic way. And if you say that with Venus retro in Pisces it gets… Read more »

JacquiMM Member
Jacqui

Epiphany side swiping venus retro style! When I was 17.5yo I travelld from Au to Berlin to spend time with estranged mother and little brother. Met a cute guy ( predator no actually a pimp) and did what footloose randy tanned spunky girls sometmes do. But somehow ended up with his co-worker as well -not at the same time i might add. Some shit went down which at the time I thought was bizarre but I was returning back home to start uni. Anyway this has repercussions to the way I thought about sex and even now my fantasies. Well… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

OH MY GODDESS this is SO on POINT.

Control dramas? Power tripping? Having to stick up for oneself? HELLS TO THE YES.

This has been the most insane, tragic, intense venus retro I’ve ever faced–but hello PLUTO that explains a LOT. Been to hell and back, but emerged stronger.

LadyRJS
LadyRJS

Wow. Thanks for the clarity!

PiMM Member
Pi

What Persian Aries said. Feeling a bit psycho (I’m not really the coo-ing venusian type except behind locked doors where no one but the Subject will witness such behaviour) but it’s nothing a 20k run won’t fix, right?

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

Did you say 20km run?

I’m in!

PiMM Member
Pi

it’s the only thing that will save me right now it seems. the blissful empty-headed-ness of running around for extended periods of time. focus on one’s breathing, indeed…. ultra marathon…or ultra Zen? hmmmmmm.

PiMM Member
Pi

glad i have an astro running buddy hehe.

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

I wish I could run for 20 kilometers. But my back won’t let me. Exercising regularly though it’s possibly the only thing that keeps my mind off bad thoughts.
I guess – since I’m off my yoga practice – I’ll start that again when Venus goes Retro in Pisces.

PiMM Member
Pi

It is strenuous yes… Not for everyone, injuries esp! Not nec running non stop for me but the catharsis of covering that much ground, pure physicality.. am experiencing huge amounts of Ugh in my life right now and I keep forgetting (why? No idea) that gtfo of house and be in body away from triggers is cleansing…renews perspective and sense of ability to cope and move fwd…

PersianAries
PersianAries

I’m loving this retrograde. It hasn’t even been a week but it feels like a month of psychotherapy already. Started exercising and doing yoga again. Can’t wait for it to conjunct my natal retro venus

ArielMM Member
Ariel

Right?! It’s certainly deeply therapeutic, even as I feel less superficially attractive then ever. I see you Venus – taking away my props so I can experience real (self/ friend)love & healing. It’s on my moon & then hitting my north node, & given my love life lately I had not been expecting such blessings.

Ms.
Ms.

agreed, totally in love with the body beauty regain and gains. just don´t answer the phone when the past calls

hermesloveMM Member
hermeslove

Cleaning up my life time of relationships I am not the same man I was . I am healthy in mind body and spirit . I am not trying to get any thing just letting it be . It a relationship would have to be Inspired by The Goddess . Many calls from past lovers . I am not the same man . Double Capricorn moon in Taurus . I am having a relationship with myself .

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

yay to you! this is what i need to do…

redjavaMM Member
redjava

Yep, it’s walking right over my Aries Mars…and Saturn return in the mix. that explains the sentiments lately (or lack thereof). It’s like I barely have time to converse- everything is bare minimum, maximum impact. If it’s not new, fresh, growing, and happening, I don’t want it. It sounds Uranian but it’s more like authoritarian growth patterns Speaking of Pluto. Big insight last night: my fear of home invasion/pursuit comes from the possibility someone would ruin “good times” chez moi. The fear became something much freakier all of a sudden. Certain people and things matter a lot to me, and… Read more »

Kate
Kate

Oh my god. This week – tonight! I have said goodbye to two men I have been infatuated with. One guy contacted me out of nowhere after 2 years last week. I was into h for a year and he was totally unavailable – different city, lives in his head. A few days ago I decided to be super honest about my feelings and asked him to respect them, and let things be. The second guy I’ve been mad about for 1.5 years – different CONTINENT, completed in his head (see a pattern here?). I just send him a voice… Read more »

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

That’s awesome Kate!

Now I’d use this VR hiatus (the Pisces portion, to be more specific) to work on the “lives abroad/ unavailable” pattern in relationships.
After all VR is great for breaking bad habits not only by closing unhealthy relationships, but also (or I’d say mostly) to focus on patterns.

Becky
Becky

Sharon – This is the first photography post I have ever commented on. How could I not! Everything about every photo was perfectly gorgeous. What a wonderful artist you are. I would hire you ANY day to do my family photos. (Except I live in Chicago!) LOL. I will most definitely bookmark you in my favourites this fatbo8230;.Ocr#&er 10, 2012 – 4:17 pm

CatMM Member
Cat

This explains so much!

12th house Virgo
12th house Virgo

I”m feeling it. I was hoping getting to the other side of full moon would take the edge off.