When Saturn Is Your Skincare Consultant

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When Saturn is square to your Venus, as it is to mine now, you naturally restructure (Saturn) your beauty (Venus) regime. So because it’s Saturn, this is not the joyful frolic through some new season frippery that some other transits might suggest. Nor is it the sex induced endorphin infusion of a Pluto-Venus trip.

But it does – naturally – have its lessons. So, in case they help anyone else, Saturn transit or not, i am passing them on. As a Moon in Libra, i have been obsessed with face and body gunk my whole life. It’s been high end, it’s been low end, it’s been clinical NASA level science and it’s been haute hippie – zero chemicals, yes you could eat it.  The whole spectrum has featured and with various levels of expectation but there has always been gunk.

I was discussing this with a Taurus the other day and we were agreeing that it evolves into a pleasurable ritual, slathering the gunk on your bod, getting a mild dopamine hit from the smells and the potential promise of the firming or the moisture, whatever…the massage component.  Body lotion can also be a far better way to scent yourself than spraying on perfume with its alcohol and all.

But – and this is the Saturn bit – i had this weird rash/speckled skin tone on my skin that is basically fungal. So i go looking for the gunk for that (and there are plenty) but in this process i learn that mites + yeast + fungus live off gunk. They particularly love olive oil and any oil based gunk but basically any body lotion will keep them merry and thriving indefinitely.  What i was told is that for genuine skin health – even skin tone and glow etc – you use NO gunk. This to me is like the Flat Earth Society.

I was like ‘What about expensive gunk?’ ‘But surely if it is dermatologist endorsed that’s fine?’ ‘Body oil with essential oils and no parabens?’  The conversation was akin to a problem drinker trying to figure out if ‘dry white wine’ was still okay. Or cocktails if they had fruit. But no. To eject any version of unwanted microbe from the skin colonies and discourage them from coming back, you apparently have no gunk on the body – you dry body brush, wash with the right PH body wash (exfoliating mitts encouraged) and then dry off thoroughly. That is it.

So fully expecting to have hideous skin after a week of this, i did the regime and scarily, for a Gunk Addict, my skin is better than it has ever been. There is one oil free face serum with retinol and that’s it. it still feels weird not to be applying body lotion but not only is it apparently not needed, it’s counter productive. I asked the derm why this was not more widely talked about and he shrugged; where is the money in that?  Who would advertise in the magazine? 

If you are interested in the PH thing, this is a really intense The Matrix meets skincare article by a very Uranian character. There is some thought provoking “Louise Hay’s Alien cousin” style material on there about how people who repress their anger end up with really thin skin & porous boundaries – that their complexion reflects.

Another Saturn pay-off: COST. If your skincare regime is dry skin body brushing + some super basic bod wash/soap thing and one serum, you’re saving shit loads. And obviously all the usual drink water/look after your gut stuff applies – this probably would not work if you also snacked on corn chips 24-7 but still…

Thoughts?

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Savgemi
Savgemi

Ayyy! Cool photo choice. Kim is my grandma’s cousin/my third cousin! <3 A lot of people have said we look alike but she's an Aquarius Venus, and I'm a classic Taurus Venus.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

OMG! You have Kim Novaks DNA she is a Goddess with the goods!

Savgemi
Savgemi

It’s a blessing for sure. 😉

dizzarina
dizzarina

Well, this is disappointing to hear, as I made the most delicious body butter while snowed in recently. Only shea butter, coconut oil, and olive oil, with orange and lemongrass essential oils. It is absolutely dreamy.

I’ve been on a DIY kick lately, a byproduct of being unemployed. Made toothpaste with baking soda, coconut oil, salt, and cinnamon essential oil. Unfortunately, I now have a chronic toothache, so I don’t think I’ll continue using it, but it would be great in the bath instead!

I don’t think I could go without a facial moisturizer of some sort.

Mercuriowl
Mercuriowl

In general, skin does not like fragrance. So definitely an unscented body wash and lotion is the way to go. Excepting that, formulations of products and what you’ll benefit from totally depends on skin type and even so, what will do wonders for one dry skin person could destroy another. The one foundation i went to because it was organic and supposed to benefit my skin is the only one that has ever broken me out. My skin has benefited the most from acid exfoliants, retinol, and hyaluronic acid. Absolutely everyone benefits from some kind of gunk for moisture, but… Read more »

Mercuriowl
Mercuriowl

Do want to try dry brushing next!

Mercuriowl
Mercuriowl

Oh! And toning after face cleanser to restore PH. Masking, if the mask is good. You can do all the right things but if if diet sucks, you can still get craterface.

Sometimes I think the biggest challenge is taking off the rose colored glasses and admitting that something we wanted to work/bought instead of food/heard raves about isn’t doing a damn thing.

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Ha ha, this is basically my skincare regimen.

Nothing.

Absolutely nothing.

Except drinking noni juice and a noni-juice facial once a month (this invloves dabbing noni jounce all over your face, leaving it to dry and then rinsing off).

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

If you want to really go saturn-nuts, you can avoid getting any warm or hot water on the face. Washing only in ice-cold water is supposed to keep pores closed and prevent washing away natural oils.

But I’m too lazy.

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

But I do put cuticle butter on my nails. Coz they’re dry has hell.

Blanca
Blanca

I’ve been going through a Saturn-Venus transit myself for the past few months (conjunct in Saggo), and totally revised my skincare regime to practically nothing. I went from being obsessed with the most expensive fancy pharma creams and serums, microdermabrasion, monthly facials, blah blah, to minimal/au naturale. I wash my face only in the evenings with a little bit of rosehip seed oil, wipe off with a warm washcloth and finish with a thin layer of organic shea butter. I splash my skin with water in the mornings before going out. I also go at least one or two days… Read more »

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

PS love love Bell, Book & Candle and Kim Novak all witchy and cool!

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

Wow on the monthlies….i’ll take my moon sign’s this month-aries-wow!

Jokerman
Jokerman

YANFW!!!

Amazingly confluent with3 conversations I’ve had for the day

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

what is yanfw?

Jokerman
Jokerman

You are not fuqn wrong

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

love luxe beauty products…but then im venus ruled…hardly use anything now…my face was reacting to a sis
ey moisturiser so i stopped that and just gone back to clarins which i used to use years ago.
r we including dental products in this?
someone else mentioned living libations..their happy gum drops are badically abt nine diff essential oils that you clean ur teeth with…just a single drop on a dry toothbrush…they’re a real luxury for me as its pricey but i love it, and my teeth feel soo clean afterwards…and uve got gorgeous breath!

Jokerman
Jokerman

On a sort of related matter. I take the cell salts that are aligned with each sign. I take the ones for Cancer/Aqua/Virgo/Scorp. The one for Scorp is Calcium Sulphate which is for blood issues.

Joni suffered an aneurysm and Neil had one picked up early by a keen-eyed doctor. It made me redouble my efforts to remember to take them.

Lili
Lili

AV malformation can run in families- my friend and her family all got CT scans per MD orders after her first cousin had an aneurysm and durvived.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Yep pretty much gunk free bar a serum from Sukin which is owned & made in Oz vegan tbh the bottle says NO lots of bad stuff but what’s actually in it must be on the box ha! I don’t use any body oils at all but scrub with coconut oil and salt in the shower with some natural instinct body wash … again a lot of NOs and not too many chemi’s listed and in winter might rub a bit of coconut all over Hair gets the coconut oil treatment once in a blue moon and yep Invicta with… Read more »

indieamama
indieamama

Never used a body moisturiser in my life. Though I have bought a few over the years. I also trialled one that was for problem dry skin, a herbal one that came along while I was suffering eczema from being pregnant. Face is a different story but most of the time it’s just water. I have a huge stash of products that rarely get used. I do love a good glycolic or apricot scrub but meh, too lazy. I have bought a dermaroller for collagen induction about 9 months ago. So far, I’ve used the body one twice on my… Read more »

indieamama
indieamama

The roller looks like this https://youtu.be/dRCKfaaJHls

quintile
quintile

Completely off message but I was feeling a bit worried as I now have saturn s

quintile
quintile

…squaring my moon, sun and mercury — then I saw that this retro venus is going to be conjunct my moon and trine my jupiter for months due to its retrograde – phew…takes a bit of the worry out of things xx

Starbaies
Starbaies

Ha. I found this article v. interesting. I have natal Venus sq. Saturn, and I didnt discover lotion usage until my 30’s. Just religious use of asian scrubbing loofah. Yes, even the really rough kind they use at korean spas that leave your skin red and raw, with rolls of dead cells sloughed off, but also like a baby’s bottom. Even now, I only use lotion when I absolutely have to. I noticed that using lotion would give me a slight inflammation in my skin for some reason. So I dont like to use it, except on really dry patches… Read more »

Catherine
Catherine

Homeopathy can help with skin issues , though I do agree diet n exercise is important too. Fungal afflications are the body producing an excess , and topically you can use hypercal cream ( hypericum / calendula) its brilliant anti fungal and healing. My old spiritual teacher said orgasm is very good for clearing the chakras and skin ! Also a lot of evidence that immunisations and air pollution have seen an increase in eczema, allergies. As its the heart that purifies blood I also think being happy really helps…obvs not always possible but I suppose I mean more to… Read more »

davidl
davidl

I thought the heart was basically a pump. Is it not the liver that extracts the impurities ?

Catherine
Catherine

If the heart is not pumping correctly, blood leaks back into the liver and you become more toxic. I had heart failure n it happened to me. The liver does the cleaning along with kidneys excreting but the heart must oxygenate and pump blood away from the liver. The heart is an awesome organ even if just a pump. I could bore you with loads of technical info but can give you links to find out more if you like

Jokerman
Jokerman

The heart has neurological capacity.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux

Weird – when Saturn was sq my Venus i developed a hypersensitivity to pretty much all chemicals which meant I had to give up on anything synthetic/perfumed (which includes everything in the skin care/hair care realm). I ended up shampooing once a week with a local goats milk soap (no, it never looks as good as the commercial stuff makes it look) ground almonds once a week as a skin scrub and a touch oil rose hip oil on the face at night. Since then I’ve added a australian bush essences moisturiser to my hands and forearms, but that’s about… Read more »

Buckle (Aries Sun; Pisces Asc; Gem Moon.)
Buckle (Aries Sun; Pisces Asc; Gem Moon.)

Over the new year, I stayed at a friend’s house at the beach and it was SO HOT that we were in a cycle of swimming in the sea and showering all day (e.g., 4-5 showers). During that time, I stopped using any moisturiser on my body at all, simply because it was not necessary when you were washing it off constantly. I am usually someone who wakes up half an hour after going to bed because I can FEEL that I forgot to put my body moisturiser on. But since my four-night beach jaunt, I just have not recommenced… Read more »

Pi
Pi

i love those routines 🙂

Lili
Lili

Eyeliner- ok- but no goop on body-have always hated lotions- doesn’t feel clean post showers. Water yesss!

Scorp Rising- Mars Gem Pluto Virgo. Airy and dry please!

em price
em price

I think that eating hydrating foods really helps! For folks like me who tend to dry out, drinking water sometimes doesn’t help a lot. It’s one of those weird catch-22s of yin deficiency. You need moisture but you can’t hold the moisture. But hydrating foods seems to help. I think, yeah, having a healthy gut and being super-hydrated are probably the true factors of skin health. And lungs. Healthy lungs. This is tricky if you’re like me and burning things is your favorite spiritual add-on. Lol. But, in my chinese medicine studies (I know lots of folks on here are… Read more »

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

yay LOVE living libations…have u tried the happy gum drops?

em price
em price

have not! I will check them out

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

just ordered some, cant wait for it to arrive…desperate try the chocolate body oils!

Alouetta
Alouetta

I gave up soap after a massive -TMI ALERT – thrush outbreak and my lovely doctor informed me that soap was a major culprit. No soap to be used anywhere above said hooha. So it was loofah action only for a long time and my skin loved it. And no more thrush! 🙂

I’m now trying to get my skin care down to 2 or 3 products because I just don’t have the time or money or energy anymore to diversify. If anyone knows a good moisturiser that’s ok to use everywhere including eyes lemme know.

Invicta
Invicta

How funny. I’ve become obsessed with using only vinegar and baking soda and salt to clean. I’m like detoxing my environment and it’s cheap! But I’m also using my own homemade mixture of salt, baking soda, coconut oil and whatever essential oil I have around. I find I don’t need body lotion or actually anything… I’m doing more smoothies with turmeric and vegan protein, greens and whatever chucked in. Realised I’ve accidentally become a vegetarian. Not By Design. I’m just going for what I crave. I’ve continued the Kondo fever and actually answered the phone from a Saggo ex Thor… Read more »

anniemikey
anniemikey

I’ve been having an inexplicable rash for a couple of weeks now so I’ll start cutting out my gunk as well (just coconut oil for months now, except on my face). I do wonder how my usually dry skin will keep up, as it can sometimes feel painful even and you can see the cracks on my legs and such.

davidl
davidl

I watched a doco last night and was reminded of the research that showed that by just imagining yourself doing exercise people were recording up to 10% improvement in muscle strength.
So I’d say a part of any skin care product testing should use the same process with great success. 🙂

davidl
davidl

Although that wouldn’t be a Saturn regime ? We could call it Mercurial ? Or Neptunian ?

Jokerman
Jokerman

Same fir basketballers. The reference group were told to do nothing special. The 2nd group told to practice hoops. The third group were just told to dream shots when they wento bed.

The third group showed improvement.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I lived under a beauty regime once but then John Howard become PM.

davidl
davidl

Hmmm, maybe being dragged from the 90s to the 50s could improve your skin ?

Pi
Pi

Generally ones skin is better at 50 than 90. Its a regression thing

Jokerman
Jokerman

Benjamin Button?

Pi
Pi

he had his DNA spliced with the Turritopsis nutricula jellyfish. early experimental biochemistry, the papers were lost in a lab fire and only the anecdotal evidence in the form of that tale exists

seawitchmermaid
seawitchmermaid

This makes me feel better about being too lazy/exhausted to do a proper skincare routine before bed, lol (I rarely wear foundation anymore, if I do I use one of those wipes, so it’s not just sitting on my face all night). I’m also wondering what MM’s serum of choice is. 🙂

embarkons7
embarkons7

Yes, I get compliments on having lovely skin a lot and I swear it’s because I’ve never clogged my pores up with make up and lotion, except sunscreen ((aqua minimalism and dislike of conventions).. I do often put ointment on a stubborn patch of inverse psoriasis that I’ve had for more than 10 years to tamp down the itchiness – and this post makes me think I need to re-examine that, as I’m probably making it worse, and figure out how to dry out the skin there. Meanwhile, I have Saturn conjunct my natal Uranus-Venus, and there’s lots of reaximing… Read more »

seawitchmermaid
seawitchmermaid

What do you use for sunscreen that doesn’t clog your pores? I’m still looking for “the one.”

embarkons7
embarkons7

My favorite over the last year has been babo botanicals zinc sport stick (i also have some goddess garden baby tho it’s a bit runny). <3

seawitchmermaid
seawitchmermaid

Thanks! 😀

scorpiodawn
scorpiodawn

think ive split with my boyfriend…as i was leaving the house a little voice said ‘check out lillith on astro when u get home’….err lillith trine lillith and mars ON natal lillith…ok…

Lucy
Lucy

Maggie Anderson says that Eve Lom told her not to use moisturiser.

soeher
soeher

I am actually a microbiologist with sensitive skin and somewhere along the way I started getting a bit obsessed with “eternal youth” and looking young and whatnot and even started a legit all natural cosmetics company (which I ended last year)… The irony of it all? I don’t use anything. Only some oils on my face cause I have really dry skin + rosacea, other than that… nothing. And the more I research, the less I use. I get compliments all the time on the softness and texture/lightness/etcetera of my skin. I’ve always giggled a little on the inside 🙂… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

Neat. Do you use a sunscreen?

Starlush
Starlush

I always adore all of your writing Mystic! And thank you so so much for sharing. I have always been a big proponent of nourishing the beauty from within. And skin fungus is systemic deriving from a damp condition within the body. So I am so glad you cleared it out on the outside. Sometimes when we eat lots of really nourishing foods that are nutrient dense we can develop dampness and it is so so rich that our bodies aren’t able to process and materialize through all of it. We do feed our bodies via the skin as well… Read more »

Starlush
Starlush

That is why I use the xylitol in my chocolate potions. The formula can be rich and the xylitol helps to keep it more balanced. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it? Balance…

echo-echo
echo-echo

This is fascinating!

Starlush
Starlush

I know right??!?!? xoxoxo Echo-echo

Pi
Pi

thankyou Starlush! this is so cool

Starlush
Starlush

Your welcome Pi ! xoxoxo

SuchADream
SuchADream

My natal Venus does T square Saturn conjunct Mars square Chiron and skin issues abound especially in winter! Eczema and pigmented purpura red blotchy itchy stingy… If I don’t apply a healthy coat of moisturizer, usually coconut, cocoa butter, and almond oil, then the coarseness of my normal clothes fabric will cause inflammation! This does seem counter intuitive, and my dermatologist doesn’t have any radical ideas for me to try out other than UVA treatment which have yet to look into. My skin will burn and sting when there’s nothing lubricating me against my leggings or sweater. It’s a lifelong… Read more »

MsMina
MsMina

So um… Aquarius moon and Venus (and Mars) over here… I guess you gotta learn what the right ph feels like. Once you know that, you can adhere to any regime you like, cause you can just remedy as needed. About 7 years ago I began a big no gunk phase (shampoo included). Taught me a lot of things.

marsbar
marsbar

Not super news to me. Dr. obagi doesn’t believe in skin moisturizer except for the driest of dry skins. He says your oil glands get lazy if you moisturize all the time. He advises only retinol serum before bed. Not giving up mineral sunblock though. That is one lotion I can’t do without! My skin type hyperpigments like crazy. Have you heard about the bacteria sprays Mystic? There is a microbiologist who hasn’t showered in years unless genuinely covered in gunk. I think he washes face, hands,feet,pits, and junk only and sprays these areas with nitrogen forming bacteria. He says… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Perhaps you could think of it as a paleo regime for your skin.

What do retinoids do, and who do they work on? As in what age bracket tends to notice fx.

Saturnine
Saturnine

One mycology professor told me about the relationship between fungi and body oil a couple years ago and I was as shocked as you, MM. I still use some unscented, very basic body lotion every other day on my arms or else my pityriasis alba shows. Ages ago one dermatologist recommended washing just where absolutely necessary (usually armpits, crotch and feet) with a mild soap and rinsing everywhere else with water so as to avoid dry skin. It works pretty well on my body, except for the arms, as mentioned above. . As a pharmacy major, the only things I… Read more »

Pi
Pi

as someone innately saturnian, if our skins needed gunk, we’d just make more oil. having said this, gunk helps if locked in an airconditioned highrise every day. the BEST way I have found to have consistently amazing, glowing, plump skin is to sit in a steam room or sauna every few days. minimum gunk. sleep, i use an eye cream though. whatever is available and the less peg-steareth-3259 the better i.e. lately i have been using olive oil and also a coconut oil thing Hydration and circulation is basically it. Circulation for the blood flow, oxygen supply, tissue turnover. Hydration… Read more »

Pi
Pi

vitamin E serum from an organic skin care company but not too much as it makes my eyes puffy. that can’t be good

Jan
Jan

Saunas work well for me too, as well as ocean water and sunlight. No manmade lotion has ever done me good.

toroloco
toroloco

It honestly all depends on your skin type. I have naturally dry skin, I don’t sweat much, etc. I was “gunk” free most of my life (Sat-Venus square natally) and it was awful for my acne-ridden face. Finally found a beauty regime that works: 2 face washes, a serum and night cream. And that’s on days I actually wear make-up (4-5 times a week). Nothing I use is over 15 usd. I don’t believe in perfume or cologne. If it’s already horrid to my nostrils (Asc and moon in ultra-sensitive Pisces), then ofc it’ll be deadly to my skin. Lightly… Read more »

toroloco
toroloco

If you must use -something-: coconut oil. It works miracles and is naturally antibacterial.

marsbar
marsbar

Yes coconut oil is anti fungal and viral too.

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

Wow – this is pretty rad. I’d just discovered castor oil this year. Apparently one of weird benefits is you sleep well if you smear some over your eyelids before bed (oddly, yes this seems to work). So I was downsizing from my homemade oil + essential oil blends to just this, at least at night, feeling very minimalist smug about it.. but wow yes we want to keep the microbey fungus away. No oil? Help

Invicta
Invicta

It apparently makes your eyelashes grow too and is MUCH better than the expensive chemical goo they sell for that. It’s just so thick, it smears a bit but I think it’s ok a few times a week. Like wearing light oil mascara to bed 🙂

LotusFlower
LotusFlower

True, I quite like it!

Pearl
Pearl

Agree with the Keep It Simple {and clean} ideas..but I also LOVE my daily Ayurvedic ritual abhyanga.. and my skin stays pretty amazing. Maybe the water, gut balance is good, maybe it’s the ocean swims that contribute too…

Starlush
Starlush

Yes gut balance!

sphinx
sphinx

Thank God! I thought I was just lazy, but apparently I am finely in tune with my skin!

This reminds me of when I used to do (when I had a fully functioning set of hips) jog-walk-jog-walk-walk-walk-jogging three times a week.
Later this mysterious new system called interval training appeared.
Again, I thought it was pure laziness until that point *reaches for corn chips*.

TONITHOMPSON
TONITHOMPSON

So, what is the oil free serum with retinol that you are using?

Electro
Electro

What do you consider to be gunk? ANY lotion, scrub, oil, etc? I thought my regime was pretty basic with Amish made soap and as minimalist as possible lotion (one for body, one for face) but this is intriguing.

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