The Neptunians

Filed in Neptune

Somebody asked me what i meant by “Neptunian” and so slippery a concept as this is, here goes: A Neptunian is a person with prominent 12th House, Pisces and/or Neptune influences at the time of their birth.  (Neptune rules Pisces and the 12th House in astrology is akin to Pisces).  More than any other astral influence, Neptune slithers swiftly between high (haute) and low versions of its own vibe.

Once i joked that the astrological Neptune is not so much a planetary influence as it is a drug. Neptune, whether by its strong placement at birth or via activation by a transit, is a potent guiding vision – spiritual, artistic – that can be addictive and all-consuming. The soul quest that Neptunians are on, whether they consciously know it or not, can leave them more prey to misuse of Neptunian substances…Dream Weed, Space Dust, Blue Devil Hoochie Juice, Opiates.  For every shamanic vision quest facilitated by entheogenic plants, there is a hollowed out person seeking only to get out of it.

There are Neptunians who use seduction and romance as a drug, hooked on the initial high of someone being beguiled by them, blurring all boundaries and genuinely not bothering with the boring shackles of reality.  Whether they deploy this for good or to get their needs met in the moment, Neptunians have immense reservoirs of charm and transmitting multiple simulacra to activate the desired response in the other person feeds their consciousness, compassion (the other person is happy, right?) and admiration for theater.  Of course, it is a performance and at some point the lights have to come back on…

Standard morality is not necessarily a strong trait. But their keenly refined aesthetic senses, musical appreciation, adoration of the arts in general and – usually – creative talents draw them into realms where make-believe is not just an asset but a prized core competency. Film-Acting-Beauty are all Neptunian professions. So is staging a production, something that can leak into every aspect of life…

But it’s sad when Neptunians get all of their Qi – their life vibe and vitality – sucked into the facade, feeding only off the adulation of the masses (if they are renowned) or of people they seduce and beguile, losing their connect with Source/their Muse. Because Neptunians have a sublime ability to perceive and be moved by unseen energies, magic, Quintessence, the natural world, animals and spirit. They are naturally sensitive souls who need quality time alone…

Lucian Bernhard

But when you’re a Neptunian you’re never really alone – their awareness of different dimensions is exquisite, their inner life automatically enriched. “Psychic” is a word often misapplied but Neptune often lends true psychic genius – as opposed to the rapid genius processing of Uranian types or the insanely strong instincts of Pluto people. They are the most likely to literally see visions, ghosts, angels and/or to have actual premonitions.

Sometimes the ideals of Neptunians can be so high and their dislike of plebeian relationships so intense that they subconsciously make a decisions to have purely imaginary but not officially existent romances. They don’t want to risk the inevitable disenchantment. More sensitive than they ever let on, they could even still be melancholy re that first shard of disenchantment, eons ago. Their empathy and compassion is real – it’s just that they will redirect it without notice.

One thing that brings out the best in Neptunians (apart from not sliding down the Lower Neptunian rabbit hole of addiction or hooking up with vampires because they’re hot) is dedication to spirit, a cause and/or creativity.  With a genuine spiritual and/or artistic high able to be worked at with Saturnine diligence and/or sought out consistently, the lure of transcendence via substances or crazy, unreal and in the end empty romance no longer twinkles.

Thoughts?

 

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Dan O'Leary
Dan O'Leary

As a PLutonian, they are thick as thieves and are usually self-absorbed. I see through most of them. Frauds.

dizzarina
dizzarina

A person is a fraud for being a Neptunian? Not sure I follow this logic.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

“Most of them” that you only know in a limited sphere. “See through” and not “see into”. You have not experienced the Neptunian vibration within yourself on a purer plane, only through (probs) drugs, glamour, hi-art-hi-fashion beauty in your surrounds. Or you would see ‘through’ appearance as an art form of expression, and see the layers with, uh, compassion. Frauds are. They just are, and the worst ones haven’t ever seen themselves from other than an echo-chamber-mirror, only stay grounded in confident factoids, their own decided subjectivity faking as objective standards for “the masses”, or rather the few people they… Read more »

TripleL
TripleL

Brava!

Pi
Pi

Hating on people because they can’t possibly be valid if they’re not scowling and doubting all the time? It’s ok if you think you can see through us. I see through flowers all the time. All their stink and pomp, playing at being different from each other, unique, just to get laid. Everyone loves them and is all bla-bla-bla so pretty but we know those petalled fraudsters are only out for one thing. Careful that you are not overtaken by sifting through the wreckage of life for the truth as a kind of Sisyphean trajectory, except towards the centre of… Read more »

Pi
Pi

The plutonic soul is an important one, venality is a tiresome human motivation and it probably stings you to see it everywhere, but there’s more to life. The ocean covers shipwrecks and bombs, coral reefs and whale clans, if doesn’t mean they’re not there, but there’s more to life. Come for a swim 🙂

Dan Hamilton
Dan Hamilton

This is interesting stuff. I’m not sure if I am a Neptunian or not, I but I do have some prominence there and I “feel” a lot of what is said here not not quite to the extreme. I suppose I may have some balancing factors…

Very good article, heartfelt.

michym812
michym812

Neptune sits exactly on my AC in birth chart this explains a lot! (Premonition dreams/visions/etc..) but I think my Sun in Cap/Taurean Moon help to ground. Its taken years, but I’ve learnt so much through astrology and especially with your help..cheers Mystic.

Impybat
Impybat

Never considered myself Neptunian because of my abundant Merc/Pluto, but now that I’m having a second look after reading this and the comments…
Neptune trine midheaven
Sun opposite Neptune
Moon Square Neptune
plus Uranus in 12th house (and Pluto if you count whole sign/equal houses) and an assortment of asteroid weirdies, including Whiterabbit, Melancholia, Conscience, Machiavelli, Mentor, Skywalker, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Urania, Sunshine, Talent, Panacea… (oh, have I mentioned I’m a little obsessed with asteroids?)
It would explain a lot of my mental processes/inner life strangeness and general distractedness. Also dreams involving water, all the time?

helloise
helloise

Moon-Vesta conj Neptune in my 7th Sag – Neptunian?

Just spent the last 8 days at a silent Ignatian retreat – luminous days full of quiet consolation and very troubled nights of nightmares and insomnia – a practice of endurance and waiting! What is this vibe, Mystic??

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m drowning in a Neptunian sea, atm, and when l come up for air the mist enervates me.

Damm Nep opp my Venus.

Allie3
Allie3

I feel like this relates to me but my Neptune is pretty boring. Neptune in Sag in 6th. Trine Saturn in third and opposite Jupiter in 12. Sun sign Pisces

Maz
Maz

Check to see if you have Neptune stationary (within about 5 days before or after Neptune goes retrograde or direct). Stationary planets are extremely strong in a chart, often times eclipsing everything else, even the Sun sign!

Jokerman
Jokerman

I agree. I have both Piscean Rulers SD in Scorp in Cancer’s Domain. My Nep has 10 Ptolemaic aspects inc cj the IC.

Aquabat
Aquabat

Mars and Venus in Pisces- I always wondered what this might mean…all makes sense now…

Aquarpio
Aquarpio

Sun in the 12th house, Pisces Moon 1st house, Neptune in the 10th house sextile Sun & making a kite of my air trine. According to astro,com it’s my strongest planet, second strongest: Pluto. Fortunately no life derailing addictions but I used attract a lot of addicts. Very much relate to the connection with animals, spirit, nature, etc. Did some heavy time romanticizing hot vampires (very disenchanting). Love music and art, not so much a performer (12th house sun) but very much a ‘life is art’ type -clothing, home, etc must be curated. Have visions but they’re pretty ordinary so… Read more »

Amelie
Amelie

I have Venus in Pisces. As always Mystic, this is absolutely bang on. Blessed be. Xx

tw:leo
tw:leo

i’ve never really thought of myself as neptunian, but this is making me take another look at it.

i have a tiny 12th, smack dab in the middle of saggo. nothing in there. nothing in pisces.

neptune (just typed out “naptime”) is part of my first house uranus-nep-saturn stellium and in a grand earth trine with merc and mars.

maybe i am confusing it with my boatloads of plutonic energy, and leo energy too, but i can totally relate to the haute-lo cycle of being obsessive/addicted to imaginary relationships, dreamweed. and being always in performance mode.

have never seen a ghost/spirit/etc; always wanted to.

Maz
Maz

Check to see if you have Neptune stationary (within about 5 days before or after Neptune goes retrograde or direct). Stationary planets are extremely strong in a chart, often times eclipsing everything else, even the Sun sign!

Aries gal
Aries gal

Yeah I would have to agreee with this post. So I honestly think everyone adores me or is interested in me. I have PIsces rising, Venus in Pisces and Mars and Venus in 12th house I’m very charming and smiley interested in people (genuinely) and people are often totally warped and chatty happy with me I’m not being insanely up myself or anything im being honest I do think everyone has a thing for me or is jealous ? People are always looking at me. I am typical pisces rising. Goo goo eyes, innocent air about them, fishy looking small… Read more »

rachellion
rachellion

Venus in the 12th house opposite Neptune; Mid-heaven in Pisces; Moon square Neptune…. I definitely relate to the love zombie issue especially in the fantasy sense. My fantasy love-life can go way too far sometimes (and can be about vampire types), to where it can start taking from my real relationship. I have a really hard time letting a fantasy be casual or a passing thing. When I decided to end my marriage (it was pretty co-dependent so we were both vampirish in some ways), I had a dream that my husband wanted to stay down in the basement with… Read more »

tw:leo
tw:leo

the thing about feets in dimensions is interesting!! i also kind of suss out a person via observations of their feet

Nick Nicolao
Nick Nicolao

“Neptunian”. Now I understand about this term and considerably I’m not one of them. Kudos to the author for pointing everything out with the crystal clear mentions.

This really has helped me as person to know what actually a “Neptunian” is and their characteristics.

I read a lot of things similar on http://www.astrosofa.com/ as well. You can even find the ancestor information through the website portal. Fascinated.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I had the unfortunate experience of knowing a low Neptunian/Plutoian creep. He didn’t drink nor drug and was self righteous about it, thought of himself as a real vampire and spiritual guru. Turns out he is a severe sex addict and was seducing minors with his promises of higher spiritual knowledge and father mentoring. He sought out runaway teens boys & girls that were sexually abused. He was conscious about picking his victims. Beyond disturbing. I reported him but each time he magically would evade jail. My experiences with low Neptuians have been frightening. High Neptuians a whole other story.… Read more »

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

*lesson

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Dreadful. Sometimes karma takes too long!

maru67
maru67

My natal Neptune is conjunct my Scorp ascendant (Leo Sun). ‘Nuff said. 🙁 Pisces/Neptune ‘runs’ in the family, though. My paternal grandmother had Neptune in the 12th house conjunct her Leo asc., one of my sons is a Pisces Sun with Neptune on his asc, another son is a Pisces Sun with Cancer asc, and a third son is Cancer Sun with a Pisces asc.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Neptunian here. Ever since Neptune moved into my 6th house, I have prophetic dreams about my pets and my work.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Hi 12hv nice to see you! *waves

FireTryin'
FireTryin'

Just to add my bit about Saturn conjunct Neptune transits. Mars was involved in mine. Mars and Saturn conjunct Neptune. I dreamed of the Beloved showing up. And the dream said, This is a big deal!! 7 days later, magically appearing out of the ether was a man, full of bright light and inspiration and words. Gorgeous eyes and a history I could get with and words for the future that thrilled me. But Saturn and Mars and Neptune were all 12th house things. And this magical being was really a beautifully garbed 2×4. He was the Beloved, sent to… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

And I love dogs…esp Shepherds. My dog used to understand after the beatings.

Invicta
Invicta

Oh I get that. Yeah. Totally

Pegasus
Pegasus

Hey INvicta, howzit? Exploring, nourishing yourself, going to classes, keeping warm and cosy in the northern winter or are you thinking of going south and following the sun.
Your’e looking gooood Girl 🙂
Btw am excited by a book i discovered that may interest you: The MindBody Code.by Dr. Mario Martinez.x

Invicta
Invicta

Peeeeegs! Yo! I’m great:) I mean ha ha, secretly great. Lol How are Yoooooou? I will look for that book. Currently doing Alice Miller’s The Body Never Lies, Waking the Tiger Peter Levine, Harriet Learner’s The Dance of Anger and The Power of No by James Attacher & Claudia Azzulla and other nonsense about lots of weird things like Foucault and his creepy panopticon- Goffman’s Stigma and spoiled identity and reading everything I can find around Melvin Glasser’s Core Complex but yeah, it’s all a bit chewy so I dip in and out and take it ALL VERY SLOW. There’s… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

You had me at purple tipped mohawk and more tattoos. Happy Saturnalia lovely xx

Pegasus
Pegasus

Scrolled from the bottom up and saw ‘Shepherds’. Daisy’s very handsome long haired German Shepherd frolick-mate-in the park for over 2 years called ‘Marx’, just’ didn’t wake up in the morning a few weeks ago.His owner teared up when she saw me at the library then told me, as i greeted her with ‘long time no see’. So much sympathy for her and her partner as they adored him, Marx was a local celeb coz he was so magnificent, calm and dignified. Always bounded toward Daisy then would stop for her to admire him O so king of kool. Am… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ah, dogs? They’re ppl; you know

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Dogs are much better than people in my experience

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

absolutely

Invicta
Invicta

Lol

Invicta
Invicta

Oops I was loll ing at the last line and some of the ADD Sag moon & Neptune (me too) type stuff you said.

Catherine
Catherine

my beautiful canine companion Burton was “put to sleep: about 2 weeks ago , du to the effects of osteosarcoma (bone cancer0 it was the most awful decision/day of my life..been crying daily, I miss him so much. Pegasus your description of the GSD sounds like him..people are still contacting me abut how they miss his presence . Life is just damn cruel sometimes

Ali
Ali

I’m so sorry. I remember your post, when he was diagnosed. I’m so sad for you. My beautiful old girl died a year ago. She was 15, blind, arthritic, incontinent, and let me know it was her time to go. It still took a few days for me to go through with it, even though she was clear about what she wanted. I cried every day, nearly all day, for 2 months until my husband decided I needed another dog to help me heal. My now-dog is so magical, I’m sure she’s a unicorn in another dimension. They make themselves… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

We are blessed to have has thm pass thro’ our lives
🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

Coyote Woman, not cruel breautiful because we are expressing pure emotion of the courageous and compassionate kind.
We give them Heart, they return it amplified dont’ they?
Furs & Feathers Forever.x

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m thinking getting another GS.

But I’m always in a state of flux. Having such a heavy Scorp Nep 4th is such a disrupt for a crab. The dog I grew up with lived on the back of my BMW. I know l upset some of you with that info but he loved it. He was my fave pillion.

Corrina
Corrina

I’m not neptunian. I’m actually really confused about my birth time because stuff about it doesn’t make sense … but that’s getting off track.

My partner is pisces moon though … augmented by a libra asc. I think pisces and libra have a lot in common in terms of dancing off into freakin lala land whilst having a very glib view of reality and distorted concept about telling the truth! Irks my sagg moon no end.

Corrina
Corrina

Oh and my daughter is a sun/asc pisces … she just basically doesn’t bother speaking unless it’s absolutely necessary.

Electro
Electro

Omg Sag moon here and people who bend the truth to make themselves look better irritate the fuq out of me. It’s like in that moment they get the power but it has no substance (ok now that’s my Scorpy talking).

Corrina
Corrina

It’s been a fucking hard thing to get used to. In fact, I haven’t got used to it. We’ve had wars over it. I mean full on screaming matches, throwing shit. Well I am Greek. ~shrugs~ He can’t win really. I’m a Cancer Sun/Venus so bullshit gets picked up on my radar whether I like it or not. Then my Saggo moon (7th house) has to poke and poke and poke … until finally he spits it out. I think he’s started to learn it’s easier just to tell the truth in the first place and deal with my reactions… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Ahhh the truth. Don’t get me started. True story. I was riding my pet unicorn one day through a deep green glen when I met this leprechaun who imparted many secrets. When I told kataka wife she told me to get off my high horse and stop speaking to that old drunken Irishman at the local shops. When I put on my hurt face and questioned her belief in a magical world she immediately insisted on checking my credit card details and canceled my betting acct. 🙂

Corrina
Corrina

Many MANY LOL’s david. I even accidentally snorted a bit of cranberry and soda up my nose when I read that.

I think I like your wifey. xxx

davidl
davidl

Is admitting you’re a neptunian like the first step in one of those 12 step programs. 🙂 I have Neptune in the 5th house Scorpio and it forms many pleasant aspects to the major outer planets and my moon. Pisces is my 9th house, so let’s just say I’m out and proud when it comes to my friendship with Neptune. Thank goddess for Neptune I say, I mean how boring would life be without it’s influence. My favourite planet. Life on earth is a chance to experience land and sea and partake of its bounty. What can be better than… Read more »

barbie
barbie

I have Moon, Venus, Pluto in scorpio, 12th house. And Jupiter (4th) conjunct Mars(5th) in Pisces. Sun conjunct Neptune (2nd Capri house). I think I’m screwed, though i’d like to know if there’s a chance that that love story we create in our head could be real at some point. I mean, I know I can often read people’s feelings but when it comes to this person that doesn’t even call me or manifest wanting to see me out of the places we have in common, I really don’t know which logic should I use. The part of me that… Read more »

barbie
barbie

I have Moon, Venus, Pluto in scorpio, 12th house. And Jupiter (4th) conjunct Mars(5th) in Pisces. I think I’m screwed, though i’d like to know if there’s a chance that that love story we create in our head could be real at some point. I mean, I know I can often read people’s feelings but when it comes to this person that doesn’t even call me or manifest wanting to see me out of the places we have in common, I really don’t know which logic should I use. The part of me that knows that at some point this… Read more »

Scorpie
Scorpie

Sun conjunct Neptune in Scorpio (tight orb 3º) in 10th house. I’ve dabbled in neptunian substances but Cap asc and Mars in Virgo have always kept that in check. I only ever liked alcohol because it was a perfect accompaniment to cigarettes. Given up the ciggies though, and everything else. Coffee and choc are my only “vices” now. My low Neptunian aspects manifest as love zombie-sm, thanks to my venus in Libra (9th house). Always in love with the “idea” of love. Have never managed to make it work in “reality” though. Never gone past the honeymoon phase. Never experienced… Read more »

Pi
Pi

oh god, i hear you on the domestic thing. Basically if I think a guy is a contender, I imagine myself stepping over his dirty undies all over the the floor or walking into the bathroom after he’s been in there for an extended duration (I have psyche in VIRGO, btw) and if these scenarios don’t make me dry-heave, then there is a chance.

Pi
Pi

moon in cap takes the long view, lol.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Fuq, I don’t even walk over my own dirty undies.

Scorpie
Scorpie

I think we’re imagining worst case scenario? I’m sure there are men out there who aren’t complete slobs! I know Virgo can get picky and get turned off by the tiniest things but surely some things are a universal turn off? Like going to someone’s house for dinner and discovering they’re a hoarder and you have to ask where you’re actually going to eat because there’s no dining table ok sight and the coffee table is hidden under a towers of old newspapers. When dinner finally arrives your host clears the coffee table and wipes up big fluffy balls of… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Wuthering Heights; ha. This Neptunian Fest just keeps rolling the revelations.

I fall in love with someone about 3 times a day………
and l J.U.S.T. K.N.O.W. that it will workout. Nothing deluded there (I’m ROTHFLMFAO).

I mean to say when Kate sang that song l priced tickets to go to the UK. And to this day l remain convinced if she met me she’d marry me. Esp as her Venus is ON my Asc and our Leo/Aqua Moon / Uran tie up.

Scorpie
Scorpie

Well you’re worse than me. LOL

I only fall in love once every decade so but when it happens it’s deep.

You have 7th house stuff going on I think. Mine’s empty

Jokerman
Jokerman

Mine are always deep. My chart ruler & bucket handle Moon in the 7th. The Aqua part means I want someone from East Asia….or some scenario like that.

Scorpie
Scorpie

The book is better (of course.. duh! Lol). Read it when I was 13.

I had a crush on a Libran / Scorp rising guy once, who claimed that he had read the book eight times. I fell for him for that reason. Haha. He was hot though. Guys with libra planets are catnip for my Venus libra

electro
electro

Sag Moon conjunct Neptune is my closest aspect. 12th house NN. My escape has always been to retreat in my head due to religion and overbearing parents. I have Neptune retrograde and I read somewhere that it exposes ‘religious shams’ and the native also learns to live in two worlds simultaneously. I’ve never had a real substance abuse issue rather extreme daydreaming, being a love zombie, and eating too much (especially sweets). The past few years I have been working hard on siphoning the creative energy from the daydreaming into reality. I’m much happier when I have a creative outlet… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Oh yeah Laughing out loud 12th house moon 12th house Neptune Both on the Sag side of the 12th house and closer to my Sag rising All that hardcore Lilith energy in the 12th too but in Scorpio so daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark but sexy. I related to all of this so strongly. I feel more Neptuniun than Jupiterian TBH. Kinda Uraniun too. I love Uraniun energy but the line that jumped out the most was “Neptuniuns are never really alone.” I can happily not leave home for weeks at a time. I wander around sometimes and think “awe people are so lovely.… Read more »

Pegasus
Pegasus

Yup you had me laughing those first few lines.
You COULD teach your grandma how to suck eggs.
My Venus in 12 th house. Say no more.
And thanx for reminding me to look at natal chart and the Moon now in LIbra sitting direct over my Neptune 🙂

Pivirtau
Pivirtau

Love this article – thank you!

AquaFish
AquaFish

Pisces sun, Aqua rising, Sag moon square Sun. Venus in Pisces. Loaded first house. Pluto/ Virgo in 7th. Relationships when they end, and they do, feel like life/death struggle. Forecasts say big love en route. Scared much?!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Sorry for all my comments. I have spent the past week, and one day, in particular studying being Neptunian. And then MM posts this.

I’m a moth to the flame.

Scorpie
Scorpie

Ha! last few days I’ve had the realisation that I’m the flame to the unavailable moths. Sick of being the “fantasy girl” – the one guys come to for a good time not a long time. There’s a married Aries lingering who wants to go out for drinks. PFFFFFT… he’s been saying that for four years!!! He has Mars in Aqua so drops in once in a blue moon to flirt. Going to tell him to get stuffed!!! In a nice venus in Libra way… haha. He is nice but unavailable and after the painful Saturn / Neptune delusion-busting transit… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Telling an Aries .. no way, get stuffed, is like a massive romantic gesture. If you want him to disappear tell him you want his baby or something. Zoooom .. he’s gawn.

Scorpie
Scorpie

HAHA!! thanks for the tip david 😀

I guess my lack of interest (for moral reasons I suppose) is why he keeps coming back.

I am fond of him and flattered that he thinks i look sexy in a pair of sneakers. Appeals to my Saggo moon.

I don’t really want to burn this bridge. I’m just going to be honest and say that if he was single I’d jump at the chance. Because that’s the truth in a nutshell. I mean, he may be separated now. I have no idea.

He has a Scorp moon, venus in Toro

Pi
Pi

hahahahaha “never in a million years you jerk”

“I do like a challenge” says aries

Ali
Ali

Can I be both Neptunian and Plutonian?

I have Pisces sun & mars, Neptune trine ascendant, Venus & Saturn trine Neptune.

(Also, does it matter who trines who? I mean, does Venus trine Neptune count, or is that considered a Venusian influence, not Neptunian?)

And I have crowded 8th house, with sun, moon, mercury & Venus there. Moon & mercury both opp Pluto, Saturn & Neptune sextile Pluto.

So, to an astrologer, would I be considered strongly Neptunian or Plutonian, or both? Or neither?

Jokerman
Jokerman

Both …. and strongly.

Ali
Ali

Feeling it strongly!
Thank you.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m not an astrologer; just a novice.
But my lived experience.

Tonya
Tonya

Will have to read this all again and again. Scorpio Neptune exact on asc has bedevilled me all my life. I am blessed with the gifts it brings but the pain that goes along with that is sometimes too much.

hdq
hdq

What I have noticed lately is that Neptunians need a cause, a higher cause, or else we self-destruct. It is the Hero’s Journey or nothing. Conventional morality is Death, and, infinitely worse, lacking in compassion.

Trying to be more Spiritual Warrior, less Hollow Men.
12th house Moon, Chiron, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Lilith, Jupiter. Neptune opposite Jupiter-Sun, trine Saturn, sextile Pluto, on DC. Partner is of course NR. Existing in this world is a serious challenge, every day. Sucker punches to the gut in every direction.

Of course we are never alone. I love this!!

Jokerman
Jokerman

A Hero Journey. Yes. Like a feeling someone is filming you?

davidl
davidl

Yeah, as long as you can’t hear the director telling you what to do 😉

Jokerman
Jokerman

About every 3rd song I listen to I see a film played out. I name actoresses, (females mostly Water signs or Taurus), directors. Embellishments to the story. I dream this stuff up all the time. I even make up lines they’ll say and mimic their accents for the effect I’m after.

Well, driving a Kombi through the desert will do that to you.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yes! A higher cause and that higher cause can’t really be romance because we are never alone anyway and a mere mortal will inevitably fall short of an ideal.

Malo
Malo

Spot on! I have stationary Neptune in 12th, in a 1 degree square to Moon / MC. I also have Sun, Merc & Venus in Pisces……i have the most ridiculously Piscean CV starting with running dance parties & doing lots of drugs in my early 20s & it’s taken a long time to get to the same realization that chaos will always find me, unless i focus all my considerable energy on a higher cause….so help me Pluto & Uranus have their fingerprints all over my 10th house as well 🙂

gogengo
gogengo

Crowded 12th house? CHECK (sun, mercury, chiron)

Planets in Pisces? CHECK (moon, MC)

Been talking to ghosts, angels and animals my whole life but am just now starting to refine it and take it high. My whole life struggle has been just to be responsible (SATURN stuff)

Shakti
Shakti

yes with four planets in pisces including moon and i don’t understand the other aspects but am sure they are there. sober 14 years and definitely walk a path of strong spiritual lineages that keep me focused strong and awake … spot on Mystic xx

ElizabethM
ElizabethM

This is exactly correct. And very welcome, because one of the things about being a Neptunian is that I always forget that I’m a Neptunian and then wonder why crowds, busy-ness, lack of creative time, boring people, bad art has a sort of full-system food poisoning effect on me. I need some kind of poster or tattoo saying: remember it’s Neptune

Pi
Pi

Yes! X

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Ugh – crowds! Thank God for online shopping! I remember the years I had to actually go to the mall to get things and it made me sick.

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Yes especially boring and stupid ppl. I don’t suffer fools gladly 😉

Manuel
Manuel

Neptune conjunct moon in the 8th house…
I am definitely a neptunian and can really indentify myself in this article.
I always had an adoration and fascination for Poseidon, the sea, the mysteries, depths, the subonscious, dreams…
I’m also fond of instant photography (not digital ones), and this is so neptunian… seeing a polaroid photo fading from black to an actual colour, like a ghost appearing… the illusion of how we look on a photo vs how we look in reality…
Fortunately, my natal sun in Capricorn helps me to keep being grounded and practical.

OuterPlanets
OuterPlanets

Neptune on Cap Ascendant, Sag Saturn-Uranus conjunction in 12th, all four square Pisces Moon. Neptune sextile Sun-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio. I wasn`t aware how much Neptunian I am for so long. Currently my work environment is full of Pisces and Geminis. My best friend is Pisces with Gemini Asc. I see a lot of similarities in Pisces coworkers, some of them have 3 planets in Pisces, including their Sun sign. What I noticed is that they are highly intuitive, they notice everything energy-wise, they seem like they are in eternal phase of melancholy, most of them have bright sad eyes,… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I think it was my main failing for my recently departed Pisces Stellium / Neptune Cj Scorp Asc. I didn’t live up to ALL of her 20 main dreams in a man.

My the main aspects (emotional / mental / physical) she appreciated but I’m not very financial.
Like, “Why don’t you drive a better car than this”? I thought, “Oh, the irony”. When I was 16/18 I thought to impress a girl you had to have a good car. And l know you don’t…….but then this. Every car she picked out was a German 4WD.

davidl
davidl

If a woman ever said that to me I’d drop her home and block her phone no. I mean seriously ?
No loss there P.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I told you I was Neptunian. I’m in medal contention as a LZ on this site. Plus she is Neptunian herself.

dark star
dark star

I feel like being Neptunian is swimming through the bad/ challenges to get to the good and the challenge is to “flow” through it and not get stuck or attached to the bad times as identity defining. Good post. A lot of my Neptunian is located in 4th h stellium- had a minor freak out last week when I realized the feng shui of my apt was terrible. Mystic was kind to advise consulting her feng shui lady and I switched things around flow is sooo much better. The next day I went to my friends parents solstice party. Had… Read more »

femme303
femme303

Thank you for this description, Mystic! It helps so much. I’m Pisces rising, square Neptune conjunct MC in sag, which is opp Jupiter and trine Saturn, Mars & Venus. My rising is trine Chiron & Merc and Moon and Uranus which are exactly conjunct in Scorpio. All the plants wrapped up in Neptune but the Sun and Pluto. I have struggled my entire life with giving my energy to creativity and spirituality fully, and not getting caught up in the nebulousness of it all. I’ve historically failed. But I always ask myself what is in my soul? And the answer… Read more »

mooninthe12th
mooninthe12th

Moon (my chart’s ruler) in the 12th (Gemini), Neptune conjunct my Sun and Mercury (in my 6th house stellium…opposing energy much?), Pisces North Node… I’m practically a Neptunian and this explains so much even though my dominant chart reading says otherwise. I feel a lot of this resonates with me. Brilliant as alway, Mystic. <3

JupiterRuled
JupiterRuled

Surprisingly, this resonates – especially the part about needing alone time. Sun, Moon, Uranus – 12th House (Scorpio) Neptune Rising conjunct Mars (Saggo)

Reikology
Reikology

Neptune in 12th house here. This is spot on.

Emmiana
Emmiana

I love this Mystic and all these comments are really enlightening. I have Neptune conjunct my Sun in Sag in the 5th and various other aspects with Pluto, Moon, Lilith. I am so caught up in Neptunian other worldly vibes that I didn’t even notice I had that sun conjunction till I started your course…haha. All the dreamy, addiction, creativity, magic and other dimension awareness, so so spot on!!! This post has helped me actually “see” it more clearly and the way it permitates through so much of how I see the world and perceive those around me. So timely… Read more »

Karmic
Karmic

I have sun, jupiter and north node in cap in 12th house. My venus and mercury conjunct neptune All in sag in 11th house. My friend just wrote me a letter for my bday that i have an uncanny ability of whats going to happen next and its true i could just sense peoples wants and needs. Sometimes i get scared they might think im superficial because im different in dealing with everybody.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

This gives me some ideas about how to play transit Saturn conj. my 21 Sag Neptune over the next year. It’s in my 10th house, as is my Sun conj. Uranus. I’ve read the usual dreadful things about this transit, how I’m going to be soooo lonely and have all of my dreams crushed, but I’ve been on board with Saturn since the transit began and it’s mostly brought me good things. I would love to apply some structure to my dreamy stoney art bits.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

The other pertinent thing to think about re: transit Saturn conj. Neptune is that this is a generational thing moreso than a personal one… right? If this is about a more widespread sort of disillusionment and isolation then I definitely feel that and have already been trying to figure out how I can best be of assistance. I have a Neptunian/Uranian friend who just opened a sensory deprivation tank spot and is operating it on a sliding scale. I tried it out last week and I’m so on board with whatever wellness cult he surely hopes will sprout from his… Read more »

marsbar
marsbar

I have recently been through a Saturn conjunct Neptune transit myself and this is what I have experienced, but bear in mind YMMV: 1.) saturn shits in your morning coffee. constantly. Any beautiful dreams will be stained with the jizz of reality and economic feasibility. Daydreaming is unpleasant. 2.) I felt like Saturn really energized some rational thinking to the point that it overrode my natural instincts and intuition. I felt I couldn’t trust *ME* that whole time. I overly relied on reading astrology and doing tarot all the fucking time during that time period because i couldn’t tap in.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

As long as the “jizz of reality” doesn’t shit in your ‘constant coffee’. That could upset some planet’s orbits.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

Very helpful, thanks MarsBar!

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

I have been feeling this too. I am fostering a kitten currently and donating on a monthly basis to charity and just feeling the need to do more for others. Plus, Trump as President is about as Neptunian as it gets! I cannot fuqing believe that is happening and its really calling on all to be social activists in the States. I’m hosting protesters for the inauguration.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I noticed many musicians I know already gave up and are toeing the line. They stopped resisting and are hoping it’ll all just go away on it’s own. (it won’t)
The others I know no longer care because resisting isn’t glamourous or cool and now are trying to copy Invanka & Melania’s looks.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

When is resisting abusive authority ever NOT glamorous and cool!?!?! Especially now…(sigh)…

Is my Neptune showing?

DC has a punk rock history and I am expecting a revival.

Jokerman
Jokerman

God save the Frump
Itsa fascists regime.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I’m shocked actually. But I am picking up Why bother to even try anymore despair.
Then there’s the hardcore addicts they are delving deeper into their addictions and pretending Trump doesn’t exist.
Fashionistas love the Trumps. ugh…

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Not all! Prominent designer refused to dress Melania as a protest recently. On phone so won’t Google her name

dark star
dark star

I have natal Saturn conj neptune in cap and I think it’s a good thing! Lends some structure of daily practice to your art or dreams? I just try to make Saturn the copilot and Neptune the driver. 10th h so could be essential to your career too

Electro
Electro

I am just finishing up this transit. Marsbar is right and ooof, that coffee comment. I felt very flat, like I had a terrible time feeling the magic. Self doubt and tearing myself up, but that probably has something to do with Moon conjunct my Neptune.

I’d focus in on the house it’s transiting and figure out a way to ground yourself there. Wearing heavy shoes makes me feel better. I also have worn hematite almost every day, it’s supposed to be grounding.

davidl
davidl

It was an extremely positive time for me. Dreams came true in a very timely and sensible fashion.
Have no fear in the 10th you can realize some career dreams you always thought were to far out.
Dream your dream and let Saturn put it into place and make it real.

Lindsey
Lindsey

Couldn’t have described me better (so Neptune is responsible for my ‘seeing/knowing’ things and events way before they happen!). Thankfully none of the afflictions described have found a home in me. Probably because Saturn is conjunct my Sun. Just try ignoring Saturn. At your peril.

marsbar
marsbar

Word! Moon in 12th and my tightest orb aspect in my chart is Neptune square Venus. I agree with all of it.

sphinx
sphinx

Jupiter in Pisces + Fire Neptune
conjunct the DC & Trine Sun:
‘Oi, I am a sensitive effing flowah. Listen up entity and listen good and I won’t bring out the holy water..’

leoliza
leoliza

yes ..neptune/moon/par of fortune in 4th scorpio square my 12thleosun/asc. Had an alcoholic father (who left)…I have ghosts/visions/dream visits. Luckily I have never used drugs or smoked (do like my beer on weekend though) …I can see me being quite the party animal if i had LOL

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