Leonard Cohen – Neptunian

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“In a letter to his publisher, he said that he was out to reach “inner-directed adolescents, lovers in all degrees of anguish, disappointed Platonists, pornography-peepers, hair-handed monks and Popists.”

 

New Yorker

I actually don’t like using “r.i.p.” – i think maybe as i want to think of peoples energies shooting into the stars and doing something quantum, rebirth in glory or something.

Leonard Cohen was a Virgo with his Sun Rising in Virgo. He had Venus conjunct Neptune , a Pisces Moon and a loaded 12th House. When you’ve got that going on, you automatically mine your depths and evoke those others. It’s fantastic for artists wanting to tap into the collective subconscious.

When you see glamorous, melancholy, poetic, surreal and evocative across generations, look to Neptune/the 12th House. (Pisces Moon, big 12th House + Neptune on an inner planet exact all = Neptunian)

Another factor Cohen’s ruler was Mercury and that was conjunct Jupiter – so a prosperous, erudite, ever culturally relevant and anti-fragile Mercury. He was SO prolific and successful, even whilst soul-mining.

But his words seem 12th House, so Venus-Neptune.

You can add up the parts
but you won’t have the sum
You can strike up the march,
there is no drum
Every heart, every heart
to love will come
but like a refugee.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.

Feelings?

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Graeme Mitchell – Leonard Cohen at home in L.A. – September 2016
Field Commander Cohen.

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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
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Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
November 14, 2016 1:18 am

Quantum rebirth for SURE.

emg
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emg
November 13, 2016 2:25 pm

Some how some where I found Leonard and secretly loved him. Almost like biurnal beats or a Tibetan bowl for me. Resonant.
And just checked this full moon. Conjunct my nodal axis. Moon on north 2nd house sun on south. 8th house. Hmmmmmm should be money minded for a few days.

cortazone
cortazone
November 13, 2016 2:10 pm

Another legend gone. What is the astro re so many great artists dying 2016

Electro
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Electro
November 13, 2016 9:39 am

This timing goes hand in hand in hand in hand.

I started attending Quaker/Friends meeting for worship again after about 10 years. A live version of Hallelujah is what I heard on the radio when I drove away from my house this morning. At the closing of meeting, we all held hands and sang it together. I have only sang that song alone. It was powerful to feel the firm grip of others’ hands and hear their voices say the same words with just as much emotion as I was feeling.

Timing is everything.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 13, 2016 11:04 am
Reply to  Electro

How is that going? The Q n F mtgs.
Music is blood to us Moon Neptune types.

Electro
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Electro
November 13, 2016 2:58 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

I like it. Not sure how to be succinct about this because I am 10 years out of practice. What I like about it foremost is the spiritual seeking aspect. You come together and ponder, share, and discuss. There are open minded discussions that seek to find the path without mandating it. As a group, it is active in social causes and community wellness. I believe in some places they have meetings that have preachers and are more religious but around where I live, there is no preacher and many I have met consider themselves to be non-religious. Since I… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 13, 2016 4:31 pm
Reply to  Electro

I am so Neptunian, Uranian & Plutonic l don’t know what I’m doing.

Electro
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Electro
November 13, 2016 4:48 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

Yeah I got Saturn near my MC, it saves me I think. You’ve got a lot of currents and waves going on, PF. Try to see it as an asset.

Alouetta
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Alouetta
November 13, 2016 3:54 am

I’ve always seen him as a very humble hardworking artist. I wonder if his Virgoan side is responsible for making all that Neptune – his poetry and spirituality – a service to others. And that need for utter truthfulness in his lyrics. I’ve said this before but I think he died at the perfect time. We need the artists to bring us back to ourselves and the sad truth is we are so much more interested in them when they’ve just died. He’s the perfect antidote for these times.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel
November 13, 2016 11:10 am
Reply to  Alouetta

Yes yes yes to all of this

Redlipstick Virgo
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Redlipstick Virgo
November 13, 2016 3:29 am

I was lucky enough to be crossing the same street as him. Right at the endlessly never changing traffic I bravely said you are one of the most brilliant poets I have ever read and “A Book of Longing” was my favourite anthology. I wondered if my face said what I didn’t say which was ‘Dance me to the end of love’ written in verse in my wedding service and while my relationship ended we quoted bits to each other till we danced no more. He was humbled, but seemed pleased called him a poet and he took my both… Read more »

Alouetta
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Alouetta
November 13, 2016 3:44 am

Wow, that’s wonderful. I’m glad you were brave.

Sam
Sam
November 13, 2016 3:53 am

Wonderful : )

lisa guest
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lisa guest
November 13, 2016 3:00 pm

Yep, lucky you. Thank you for sharing!

Sam
Sam
November 13, 2016 3:07 am

All the feelings mystic
<3

fishgirl
fishgirl
November 13, 2016 1:09 am

He had such pisces moon eyes…
Also his pisces moon was conjunct Fomalhault fixed star, which is about renunciation of earthly things for something more spiritual…
Always remember that scene in the documentary I’m Your Man where he’s feeding a pigeon in his underwear, looking like a monk.
I miss just knowing that someone like him was on this earth at the same time as me… 🙁

AsAbove_SoBelow
AsAbove_SoBelow
November 13, 2016 2:28 am
Reply to  fishgirl

Love this.

plutonic irruption
plutonic irruption
November 12, 2016 10:40 pm

you know, i think i am the only person i know who couldn’t stand him ! but, hey, each to his/her own and wishing him well to the next world !

inaflash
inaflash
November 12, 2016 9:16 pm

I’ve been so stunned by the election and contemplating the rebuke of the feminine and the sad apex of trash culture, I’m American, we elected an idiot king. Just as I was feeling better, Leonard Cohen died. I’ve been crying since Wednesday morning and it started again. I couldn’t listen to his music until tonight. I’m on the balcony with the moon shining and thinking about how great Leonard Cohen is and maybe he’s moved on to looking over us. I believe in life after death, maybe he’s looking down on us and we can pray to him. He said… Read more »

davidl
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davidl
November 12, 2016 9:08 pm

Leonard was rarely on my playlist, listening to his music was way too hard on my soul. I listened to some tracks from his last album only a couple of weeks ago, I’d heard he had integrated some very beautiful synagogue prayers, specifically a Yom Kippur prayer and Kaddish, which is a prayer for the departed. This work is the perfect goodbye to those he loved and to the world he loved and directly calls to spirit as he sings … ‘hineni’ … here I am . I think he was blessed with the knowledge of his departure and has… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 12, 2016 9:21 pm
Reply to  davidl

Welcome back.
Sometimes he was dark…but always honest.

davidl
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davidl
November 12, 2016 10:03 pm
Reply to  Jokerman

Thanks, I’ve been at Mystics rehabilitation complex on a remote island in the South Pacific.
It’s very hush hush .. you know.. de plane , de plane …
I feel I have the tools now to be a constructive member of the group. and thank Mystic for another chance 🙂

dizzarina
dizzarina
November 13, 2016 4:49 am
Reply to  davidl

Yay!!! Thank you Mystic!

Glad to see you back, d. x

sphinx
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sphinx
November 12, 2016 9:26 pm
Reply to  davidl

😀 Davidl, where you been son? Mwah!
Agree on Leonard, I just couldn’t. It’s cool though, I totally respect him and find him wonderful.
Bless his cotton socks and elegant way.

davidl
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davidl
November 12, 2016 10:09 pm
Reply to  sphinx

Ooh I’ve been to Georgia and California, oh, anywhere I could run
Took the hand of a preacher woman and we made love in the sun
But I ran out of places and friendly faces because I had to be free
I’ve been to paradise, but I’ve never been Peru, so I think I’ll go there next time.
Missed you Andy x

Centaurus
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Centaurus
November 12, 2016 11:17 pm
Reply to  davidl

Hello David 🙂
Nice to see you back!

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 13, 2016 4:54 pm
Reply to  davidl

That WAS someway to say Goodbye.

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 13, 2016 4:56 pm
Reply to  Pegasus

To clarify, that was for David, lines from his song that said ‘hey that’s no way to say goodbye’.

Waterylibran
Waterylibran
November 12, 2016 8:20 pm

Sigh, that’s three gone this year – Bowie and Cohen, and to a lesser extent for me Prince. Thank you Leonard Cohen, your concert in 2009 was one of the best musical experience of my life.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 12, 2016 8:55 pm
Reply to  Waterylibran

And Glen Frey

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
November 13, 2016 3:39 am
Reply to  Jokerman

yeh, I’m starting to loose count this year …

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 13, 2016 4:53 pm

And now Leon Russell.
The greats are all closing down but never forgotten via their music which lives forever.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel
November 13, 2016 11:04 am
Reply to  Waterylibran

All people who followed faithfully the strictest of muses and gave and gave and gave right up to the last. My tears are ultimately of joy to have had them.

quintile
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quintile
November 12, 2016 8:09 pm

if only I could (eventually) attain his haute neptunian level (sun in virgo, pisces moon and rising, venus trine neptune). *sigh* I was gutted to hear of his death and it sort of topped off a mini-me meltdown which is only abating through venus moving in capricorn (more earth, thank goodness!!). picking up the pieces once again. NOTE to neptune – any chance you and the south node can GET OFF MY ascendent asap? I am faced to so much of my own ‘stuff’ lately – true, it is empowering to realise how much I AM RESPONSIBLE for, but give… Read more »

Ali
Ali
November 13, 2016 3:25 am
Reply to  quintile

Lol…

Ali
Ali
November 13, 2016 3:46 am
Reply to  Ali

Sorry, am only laughing at (and relating to) at 2nd paragraph, not 1st.

Have listened to Jeff Buckley’s version of ‘Hallelujah’ five times tonight.

*sigh*

Ali
Ali
November 13, 2016 4:17 pm
Reply to  Ali

Oh! Although I do relate to 1st paragraph too…

My communication is clumsy and impulsive at the moment.

#mercuryinaries

OuterPlanets
OuterPlanets
November 12, 2016 4:45 pm

I am another Neptunian. Neptune on Asc, Saturn-Uranus in 12th, all 4 square Pisces Moon. I can`t think of words to describe how much I enjoy and understand Leonard`s work. <3

Scorpio_Rising
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Scorpio_Rising
November 12, 2016 4:31 pm

A fellow Virgo with Pisces Moon.
another great soul that has come to pass. Goodnight.

flowerchild
flowerchild
November 12, 2016 3:49 pm

A very Haute Neptunian, at that! And I think that in itself is always an achievement, to keep it haute, when there’s that much Neptune. He went beyond haute in his art, I think! I was so sad to hear of his passing, another blow during a rough week, and a rough year of losing so many important musicians of whom there will never be another like them. I knew he was a kindred spirit, I have a Pisces moon, too, but I don’t do mine even a shred as well as he… He gave words, mood, music, expression to… Read more »

Catherine
Catherine
November 12, 2016 3:31 pm

totally as a weird Scorpio neptunian Plutonic person i played his 1968 sessions and memories came flooding back me at 14 first loves etc …i remember a boyfriend unkindly saying music to commit suicide by. he didn’t last long…I love the song the Master it really touches something in me

Electro
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Electro
November 12, 2016 3:10 pm

November is synonymous to Leonard Cohen for me. Mid-autumn colors, changes, the chill, early darkness, winter preparations with a slight melancholy. His songs were with me at pivotal times, certain ones on repeat. Not sure if any other musician gave me goosebumps like he did.

We’ll always have November, Mr. Cohen.

Stella Polaris
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Stella Polaris
November 12, 2016 2:40 pm

Relistening to Jennifer Warnes Famous Blue Raincoat album. Cohen a reat song writer and always will live on as others sing his songs.

Stella Polaris
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Stella Polaris
November 12, 2016 4:19 pm
Reply to  Stella Polaris

And First We Take Manhattan – They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom for trying to change the system from within…

And Billboard piece on timeless value of a good lyric wrt Cohen and this week’s US elections http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7573462/leonard-cohen-first-we-take-manhattan-everybody-knows-election

Charley
Charley
November 12, 2016 1:37 pm

Ugh, my guy. I sobbed when I heard he was gone.

Belle
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Belle
November 12, 2016 4:30 pm
Reply to  Charley

Me too, I found him to be one of the most sexiest men purely through dialogue alone.

Universali
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Universali
November 12, 2016 7:06 pm
Reply to  Belle

Yes! Words and ideas are the sexiest things

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 12, 2016 1:03 pm

As someone alluded to about his last album; it was like a cross between a denouement and handing a baton over. And Marianne had recently left the planet.

And he is in my favourite genre: ppl who ‘can’t’ sing whilst delivering words of celebrating life in it’s highs and lows.

Z
Z
November 12, 2016 11:06 am

Feelings? Is “”devastation” okay? Another hero gone. His death made this week a much harder pill to swallow. I feel light-headed just writing this. It’s not easy. I also want to think of him passing as something greater than “RIP””. The song “Everybody Knows” is more relevant than ever.

Universali
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Universali
November 12, 2016 6:42 pm
Reply to  Z

Sure is… love that song. Loved Leonard. 2016 has really taken some of our best

dizzarina
dizzarina
November 13, 2016 4:45 am
Reply to  Z

YES it truly is!!! I posted the lyrics on my FB page, it was just so eerily in tune with the zeitgeist.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel
November 13, 2016 11:07 am
Reply to  Z

The one that has me reeling right now is this: “There’s a blaze of light in every word, it doesn’t matter which you heard, the holy or the broken Hallelujah”

Puts some much-needed perspective on the social media Tower of Babel that I’ve been wading through against my own better judgment this week.

scorpx4
scorpx4
November 12, 2016 10:02 am

“peoples energies shooting into the stars and doing something quantum…” So perfect. No resting in peace, just “rebirth in glory..”

Roxy Scorpio
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Roxy Scorpio
November 12, 2016 9:33 am

As soon as we heard about this, we listened to him all night – such an intense dark lure…mining truth in the abyss and revelling in the bittersweet insights – who wants a “perfect golden bowl with no crack in it” if you can have this?!

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 12, 2016 1:24 pm
Reply to  Roxy Scorpio

He said cracks were where the light comes in.

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 12, 2016 1:26 pm
Reply to  Pegasus

OOpps Mystic quoted that…didn’t finish reading it all.

Shoshannah
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Shoshannah
November 12, 2016 2:13 pm
Reply to  Pegasus

Rumi said ‘”the wound is the place where the light enters”. In either form it is a truth. Light enters and light heals.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix
November 12, 2016 2:41 pm
Reply to  Shoshannah

I have had bricjen hearts which left me wide open and in a kind of magical place of understanding and knowledge. I understood there is no heaven and hell, we can live in either right now.

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