Psychic Looper

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Time is not linear. Didn’t Einstein prove that? And the circling quantum nature of time is never more evident than in what I call Psychic Looper moments.

One of my lovely Mega Mystic members wrote me this in relation to the Mars-Pluto intensity that dominated last week’s horoscopes: And interestingly having so much more compassion for my younger, more intense, seeking, often lost, pressure cookered self having to navigate through this kind of vibe on a near-permanent basis.

This sparked a theory I have on and off.  Compassion for your younger self and the mistakes or choices you made once upon a time, is a key tenet of sagacity. Or at least serenity. You retain the ability to feel remorse where appropriate. Of course, there are some things that you would do differently given your time over. But there is no place for damp regret or toxic shame.

But what if there is more to it than that? If this very process is somehow responsible, via some time/dark matter/quintessence* type morph, for those “everything is going to be okay” flashes of benevolence and nurturing you sometimes feel amid difficult times?

You are your own angel.

Quintessence, if you don’t know, is what the Ancient Greeks and Romans called the so-called 5th element. Qi to the Orientals, Dark Matter/Dark Energy to contemporary scientists.

Time is not linear, and psychic looper theory (my hypothesis) means that present-day consciousness shifts or power gains can influence you in the past. Symbology, of course, exists outside of time. In our dreamscape, we roam cities and secret roads that no longer exist. Or at least, not in this dimension.

Thoughts?

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kat aquaMM Member
kat aqua

“And interestingly having so much more compassion for my younger, more intense, seeking, often lost, pressure cookered self having to navigate through this kind of vibe on a near permanent basis.” Oh, this explains my 20s, so well put! And the exact process I’ve gone through in the past 2 weeks. It’s weird because as much as I’ve thought about the things that happened over the years, I never thought to give myself compassion. I was so hard on myself and my young person choices. And then in the past two weeks, with Mars conjuncting Pluto in my 12th, it… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

Working with inner child stuff, lately, really rough time last week, only slightly dissipating this week because I’m so tired. Got really drunk….yep, not good…..on Saturday, sleeping all day yesterday, but when awake in an existential crisis, and I do get this message in my mind, ‘this too shall pass’, and ‘everything will be ok’, but I don’t know if it’s coming from my future self, I always just think it’s guardian angels, or maybe it is some part of my own life force that is helping me to carry on, to survive, like, ‘come on, keep going, don’t give… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

Oh, and then there’s the proverbial “it will all be ok in the end, if it’s not ok, it’s not the end..” Sometimes I find this comforting, but it also puts me on edge, like, so then how long is this going to take..?

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Yes, this. I wrote a beautiful piece about it that was on a Tumblr for all these spiritual awakenings I was having 2007/8/9… I deleted it in January. Part of the trauma therapy is active imagining of my past selves and putting them in safe places, rescuing them and making everything all right. I learn about who I am without the layers of trauma. The sweet caring strong teen I could have been–and that I am in some timeline. And then for future selves–my future self said “FINALLY!” when I sent energy to connect with her over this project that… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

Mystic, thank you for my real live tangible “Pimp Your Pluto Transit” book!! Scorp Asc and stellium- saw-heard shame, guilt, secrets including my own and felt terribly guilty and freaked about it- Gem 7th Mars square Virgo 10th Pluto. It’s like reading thought bubbles over people when they are saying something utterly different. But compassion, – and forgiveness- like haute Jupiter-Neptune (are conjunct in Scorp 12th) eased the WTF factor. Trauma healing is my main focus- as trauma informs everything- creates that survival mode- and resonates for years until released. Wishing everyone deep healing past present future- Yes to self… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Hey so I am really consumed by kataka vibe right now. It’s complicated (not really) but being mercury ruled and a pisces (Mystic once wrote, “A pisces who can talk to a police office without giggling is a pisces on the verge of organising a lecture tour to share the secrets of their success” – which at 21 years old i LOL’d at and have obviously never forgotten although now I question whether every time I feel like I have mastered something that feels as complex as the wave-particle duality theorem I worry that all others are actually perceiving is… Read more »

Suddenly Leo
Suddenly Leo

Absolutely! I like to do metta meditation for my past, present, and future selves. I apologize to my future self for my mistakes and nurture my past self. The voice I heard telling me I could get through things was always my own, but not my own of that moment.

Catfish moon
Catfish moon

Too tired, bone and soul tired, to say much. Transit Mars and Pluto opposite my natal sun.

My son who has Mars and Pluto conjunction natally might have gotten robbed by friends. They deny it. Large drama, no proof. I got dragged into it. They are punks but are they theiifs? Not friends though, that is clear. The current Mars and Pluto conjunction is in his first house.

It is also in my other son’s first house. He is far away at college and LOVING it.

Roxy ScorpioMM Member
Roxy Scorpio

I can’t believe I am reading this – YES!!! And, MM, are you a psychic? This has been my topic for at least 4 months now, It comes up on practically every level of my daily life. I actually felt the urge to write a short story about that the other day (basically my now-self helping my childhood-self). Now this Mars/Pluto business was really a shocker and came out of nowhere – it was really in amazement of how bad it was, and I am not a Pluto newbie. But this morning, The Tower! I have lost everything, and I… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Like having compassion for choices you made then, in a past context, fueling your present day transformation? Hell yes. I believe it is the foundation of Resilience, that self-compassion.

Ms.
Ms.

I´ve always been curious about this. One of the first occult books I ever read was on greek diety based witchcraft and it was really pushing this idea. It was the first time I had ever encountered such ideology. Then I encountered regressional work and there was a lot of going through your timeline so to speak. That time can be as one as suggested. Again, seemed kind of crazy but wtf did I know about science? Then I remembered when I was quite young and feeling extremely alone, I would sometimes imagine my older self coming to visit me… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

Deity. I have the bossiest text edit ever. Who made this ?

Scorpio x 7MM Member
Scorpio x 7

I agree with this a lot, Mystic. It’s so on time, too! I have been having constant memories of scenarios gone by that are underlined by shame and regret- painful! As a scorp with 7 planets in scorp, it’s like my physical body is burned inside by the intensity of feeling and I often will psi ally wiggle or squirm to “shake it off” (as mentioned above). Retroactive self compassion seems the only way, and it takes a ton of courage (for me) and Id like to do it more often. Also this: if I’m nervous to talk to someone… Read more »

Scorpio x 7MM Member
Scorpio x 7

*physically

marsbar
marsbar

As i like to say to my friends, you can’t write a story if nothing bad ever happens to the protagonist. Live your life like a cool book! Then other days i beg for less a less exciting storyline,

Ali
Ali

Hehe… Love this. Thanks marsbar.

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Interesting…. I am so tired of beating myself up because of my past. I was trying to survive without family and did some things I am not happy about, worried whoever knows, how they see me now and how do I recover from that? It has been in the works since 2009. This passed week I posted Taylor Swifts song “Shake it off” with a comment saying “It’s gonna be alright”…. a line in her song. As I said to a HS friend last month, “I am all alone”…. family is disconnected, my Mom is ill and doesn’t know who… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

Hodor!

Ms.
Ms.

lol

katycoyote
katycoyote

There are no mistakes , only experiments -Miles Davis Self compassion is really difficult sometimes. My old spiritual medicine teacher used to ask us to affirm “I accept myself beyond loving myself” i.e. accept where I am right now. And she also used to say “We are all young and only learning” this is when she was 85 by the way, Recently I met a friend who came on a Vision Quest retreat in France I was running , she was minding the children (though a great craftswoman in her own right). It all went pear shaped as the owner… Read more »

rachelMM Member
rachel

I love this! Have had similar thought patterns recently.

Cris
Cris

I love the dark matter / energy = qi thing. Nice theory. Seems to make sense. Something humans can feel but science can’t detect try as hard as it might…so far, anyway. In public open science anyway. So then all living things have a dark matter attractor / machine / network in them. The signal line is dark matter/ energy. And so the various astral bodies and soul are somehow also dark matter / energy. Which at some point also equals or is expressed as light — since light bodies / beings and all. Very interesting to think this dark… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Interesting…I have recently been accessing my childhood self through rediscovering activities that helped me deal with stress/unsafe living situs when I was young. We kind of talk to each other, that kid and I. She was pretty wise although she didn’t know it. She was also amazingly tough, and resilient. She had her eyes on getting out, all the time.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

BTW Mystic love the new pics on the dailies!

PiMM Member
Pi

oh mystic your ‘other reading’ sidebar is so good… your Avian Dating Guide from a 2010 post is comic relief xxx

Ampersand
Ampersand

I know, these are my pre-dawn reading fodder, so funny. I just read an Ask Mystic from 2012 that started
““Hi Mystic,
Okay, so first off, I promised myself I wouldn’t write to you, as I know you have an insane workload and are harassed by crazies more than someone working in a mental hospital, but it’s either you or my love interest, so I’m sorry, I picked you.”
Hahahha

vikingwomanMM Member
vikingwoman

Actually this is a play idea i had as i processed dealing with my birth mother adoption issue. When i was very small, i imagined i saw my 18 year old self sitting on the couch in my living room. I visualized this future me. I wondered who this future me would be like. I had an abusive childhood…sexual abuse and bullying were constant. My vision of my future self kept me going. My birth mother just can’t handle admitting that she had a second daughter she placed for adoption. Confrontation would not be helpful. All my half siblings are… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

That is so resonant to my experience. My life is on constant 360 panoramic loop. (Maybe my dbl Katness n Mars Pluto tandemising).
And ya can’t make ppl exp stuff they’ve never experienced.

Ampersand
Ampersand

Resilience can be built in other ways, not just from ridicule and not having all your needs met. I had a crap time as a kid and it was only when I started hanging out with a particular friend who is so well balanced, so loved by his family, that I started to see the difference between my experience and his. He wanted to pursue music professionally, his parents paid for half of his Gibson and believed in him, showed up to his gigs. I thought ‘I would love that’. There is no jealousy there though. I just made him… Read more »

Ampersand
Ampersand

He was also the first to point out to me that I was being abused by my family. I was 39 at the time, he was 23. It hit me like a train. maybe your kids will be the light for someone.

PiMM Member
Pi

I feel so much for commenters here where so many of you have had such difficult and traumatic pasts. I can’t possibly imagine what this was like or put myself in your shoes. At the same time I would like to add my agreement that resilience and healthy responses to the world can be built in many ways other than the very hard way. like above < 3

Ampersand
Ampersand

Vikingwoman is correct though, and my shrink said the same thing. It is a spur to achievement. My achievement isn’t material things and career. I think the achievement of my life is recognising abuse, getting very angry, cutting them off, grieving them, recognising learned behaviours where I was a bitch to people too, grieving that, and…. (not totally there yet) forgiving them,(family) forgiving myself, forgiving the situation, helping other people in similar situations, marvelling at despite all I have not become a monster myself. That is my life path and purpose. It is so clear in the Astro, the more… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

it is true and you’re right – recognising the chart (and family chart) patterns is a biggie. Like you I think I might have been reaping some karma in this life. Emotional abandonment is a theme too, and source of ongoing self inquiry (this kataka moon is nice for that work). There was some kind of hubris-related downfall maybe. Interesting. but the patterns of living like you say, definitely. And, learning where the dragons are sleeping. x

Ms.
Ms.

I agree, My default was slow burning rage for years and it motivated a lot of action. Comfort = laziness for most people

and yes, there is a lot of power in having clearly defined achievement outside of material goals x

Jokerman
Jokerman

Not sure who I’m asking here. But a lot of this stuff is troubling me. I’m going thru an unbelievable amount of shit atm. (Posi+ves = My daughter’s abuser is gone; never to comeback. And l got my hippy van back; it goes great). But yucky negat-ve machinations on so many counts. I am using all my ‘defend n fight’ astro. I even feel I’ve used ‘@stro-credit’ (c). I still struggle with ‘past lives’. Like, “how do we choose what happens to us?”. Like Ampersand, I’ve never been a career or material person, l too feel unfairness issues v strongly.… Read more »

Catfish moon
Catfish moon

So love weird Al….

PiMM Member
Pi

when you ask ‘how do we choose what happens to us’ are you asking in the context of hellish childhood, and how could one possibly choose that, or are you asking in the context of present-day agency?

PiMM Member
Pi

my thoughts and feelings for little ones experiences are “people are assholes who know not what they do” and for grown-ups, it is a combination of embracing meaninglessness, rather than seeking meaning, and genuinely taking to heart the phrase, “fuq the lot of ya’s”, and also asking oneself, “what’s the worst that could happen? if X, if y, if Z. ”
plus some other stuff but yeah. #piscessolutions
good luck

PiMM Member
Pi

^^ this is my “generating spiritual liberty” range of solutions lol

Ampersand
Ampersand

I think the cardinals are having a crazy time and have been for a while. Uranus in Aries, Pluto in Capricorn, and who can forget the Saturn trip through Libra, I can’t, and he’s going to be joining Pluto next year, woo! Squares and oppositions all over the shop. I’ve got my Saturn in Cancer and the last few years I’ve had Pluto opposing it and squaring itself in Libra. But it was all the early degrees so it has moved off now, but you are having more yet to come. I think if I can offer anything to your… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Yes. My Kat tenacity and Virgoan Mars cj Pluto tr by SatCap fight is in a battle royale. The ZZ has bitten me hard. Most of the 12-15 ZZ waZZ not this intense.

I feel so flummoxed atm.

And l just read l gotta stay stoic re……….erstwhile Pisces.

PiMM Member
Pi

it’s really fuqing intense right now. the whole past 3-4 years is being drawn through the eye of the needle. like leaving a planet you’ve been living on and the G-forces on the takeoff are like WTF but also the view of everything whoa

Jokerman
Jokerman

I forgot to say thanks @mpers@nd.

PiMM Member
Pi

just re-read your astro oppositions. uranus also squaring your sun/asc ?

Jokerman
Jokerman

With Uran applying, but Rxing, Square to my Sun. A Cardinal square with Uran n Pluto transiting. You are very perceptive Pi. Ta for your input re past lives. Muchos danke.

PiMM Member
Pi

I think that regardless of the search for meaning (which I do like from time to time), to attempt to apply some kind of soul-path thing to childhood trauma is mega fukt and is also damaging, for the most part. we certainly ‘learn’ things about ourselves and others but to presume any further than that is a path to be v v carefully trodden i believe..

PiMM Member
Pi

realising this contradicts some stuff but there are degrees of stuff here and others know better than me.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Are you getting tbeinghat we should be nuanced in our musings on life’s ‘roses n shit’? I think seeing my Sun/Nep/Moon (1H/4H/7H) T Sq on here some time back explained by Electro, Sfinx n others at least verified in my mind what had happend. It was a scheissenfest fo sure but l learnt a lot about responsibility; esp as a man. I now marvel at what is hapn to me with Pluto n Uran T Sqn my Katness. And Nep opposn my Mars n Venus with Pluto sitting in the middle of those two. Pretty well a “relship fuqer” and… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

*being that*

PiMM Member
Pi

them planets. an existential challenge to Self. Courageously drawn to deeply transformative relationships and creative endeavours. Let’s not forget that this is virgo, the sign of nurses, and finding workable solutions to take us from chaos to order (libra). Maybe with all your katakan emotional awareness your gift is to use the powers of analysis and sensitivity that you have learnt the hardest ways and you one of the torch-bearers for the broken ones.

PiMM Member
Pi

hey PF maybe as a moon-person the progressed moon is a thing for you. Maybe lookig where your progressed moon was at pivotal times in yoof might be a thing for you. I imagine that progresed moon over the virgo stellium might be something. hope this is not too intrusive r presumptuous. this is never intended.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ta Pi. You have given me much to contemplate. Keepn my heart and job, in one piece, is all l can do atm. Plus a court case and other pressing stuff.

I just hope light at the other end of the tunnel is not a train coming the other way!

LiliMM Member
Lili

Uranus opposed my Sun- is now opp my Merc. Seeing effects of fleeting media posts- the bigger picture vs instant grace, crash and burns. Pluto squaring Sun and Venus. Loving Jupiter- but it all feels momentous.

Charley
Charley

vikingwoman their resilience will come from having that safe and supportive place of love you are providing to fall back on in their minds when things get rough. Knowing you are loved and cared for gives ultimate resilience.

LilithLoveMM Member
LilithLove

Big believer in time travel in this regard – you can ask your future self for advice in meditation or automatic writing – and alternatively go into past scenarios as present self and re create the “scene” as you wish it would have gone – this is quantum and many new healing modalities are taking root on this premise – I’m also aligning with the traditions that reveal our guides/angels are ourself in aspects of our selves in other dimensions/times/realities who may have more knowledge re the holistic connections between the “selves” This is high vibe illumination of the depth… Read more »

Ali
Ali

Yes, yes, yes! Delicious.

elizmalcMM Member
elizmalc

Yes! This is my experience, lifelong. In past ten years or so I became conscious of the dynamic, somewhat able to define it, certainly able to ‘work’ with it more fluidly and try things out, with much more to learn. The Lilith association is brilliant – thank you for sharing that! I haven’t searched much around this topic, yet it truly informed some of my most important childhood experiences, then felt like ‘coming home’ when I had aha moments around it as an adult. So glad to have this to contemplate and would welcome any more resources or ideas around… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

The everything is going to be ok thing, yes.
I get that after an entreaty to other-side dad to pls help me out here – when I’m really really stuck. That feeling is often what it takes to pull through the awfulness. These days too I send that vibe back to my past self as you mentioned MM – don’t know, I feel better doing it. Having trouble forgiving myself for a romantic misstep last year, I’m still not sure how to resolve that one.

PiMM Member
Pi

having said that (about the misstep), it was the catalyst for some enormous personal development / understandings – my regret was so strong, sad, powerful and overwhelming I thought this is not normal, and utterly paralyzing… I sent myself to therapy (finally) to try and work out what was going on. So this guy was definitely the trigger for a wave of very deep relationship awareness revelations about early life impacts on how I trust (or don’t trust) relationships. This is why I think maybe he had something conjunct my libra pluto IC. *exhales* I’ll always have that, I guess…… Read more »

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