Should I Be Scared Of A Pluto Moon Transit?

Andrey Remnev

Mystic advises a Moon in Cancer woman who is freaking out about her Pluto Moon transit. Pluto is a Change God, and the Moon is the most private, inner walled garden sanctum of our psyche. So it is natural to be apprehensive. But let’s look at this logically and with a positive mindset.

Dear Mystic

I am curious and concerned about the future Pluto transit to my Moon. Not only is my Moon at 24 Cancer, but I have two kids, and my son’s AC is at 23 Capricorn, my daughter’s Moon is 20 Capricorn. I was imagining some awful family-wide disaster involving death and destruction and the ripping apart of bonds.

Cut to present day, when the Dark Lord himself is closing in on daughter’s Moon and has my son’s AC in his sights. Daughter, recently qualified as a teacher, is imminently taking up a position at a school in England, on the other side of the world. My son has announced plans to go traveling around the world with his girlfriend for the foreseeable future, selling up all their worldly goods. In one fell swoop, I am losing both of them and while I initially expressed excitement that they are off to explore the world, as the reality sets in, I feel an irrational sense of bereavement. Then it dawned on me that this is my Pluto Moon transit flexing and things are just getting started.

A Pluto Moon Transit Is A Trapdoor To The Subconscious

On paper, I am evolved, modern, and mature enough as a parent to send my kids off into the world with all my blessings. I am proud of who they have become as adults and wishing for them to be happy in their pursuits. Underneath it has become evident that there lurks a seething mass of resentment, bitterness, and deep dark feelings of abandonment that I’m scared to acknowledge. I have pop-up scenarios in my mind of me manipulating them to get them to come back sooner than they perhaps want.

A dark shadowy me is conjuring up complex, underhand and sinister plots that sabotage their travels and bring them flying back home to the nest. I’m horrified at myself and yet I know enough about Pluto to see that I need to do more than acknowledge these awful thoughts, I need to wheelbarrow that shit out into the daylight and spread it like manure before me, to pick over and analyze.

Adding to this weight of pain is the fact that when I was a 21-year-old, I left my home in England, said “see you later” to my parents and shot off to the other side of the world to live in New Zealand and never thought of going back. I am only now imagining and considering how my parents must have felt back then. This is like Karma.

A Dark Shadowy Me Is Conjuring Up Complexity

This transit appears to go on for years! I’m just not sure if I have the strength to tackle this or where to start and how it will play out.

Yours (a scared and panicky) Amanda,

Virgo Sun/Cancer Moon/Leo-Mercury Rising.

If You’re Going To Have An Empty Nest, Make It A Phoenix Nest

Dear Amanda,

You are more than just “evolved on paper” – you are articulate and aware. It would be weird to be all rah-rah about this without any shadow emotions here. You logically have ambiguous feelings about this development.  But if you think about it, it is one of those significant paradigm shifts, like when you become a parent, you leave behind an aspect of yourself and take on a new role. Now your character is morphing yet again.

A Pluto-Moon transit is a gateway into deeper feelings, one way or another. Or, see it as a trapdoor into your subconscious. Conjuring up dark imaginings does nothing to help vent/feel the darker emotions in your psyche. If you give those some air and light, the paranoia dissipates.

You also, btw, have Uranus squaring your Moon for the next year, so that’s part of this too. Access your emotions and see the Uranian revolutionary potential.

It’s Not Karma; It’s Emotional Enrichment

You could write a cult empty nester guide (Mercury Rising) or go on a crazy-massive “Finding Ultra” style health-fitness bender. Pluto IS in the 6th House remember. Move onto a boat, Or create a magic sanctuary? Devise your pilgrimage? You could get full-on therapy; you could become a shrink your self.  As for karma and leaving home at 21, you are not your parents. It’s a different era.

If Pluto were a film director, he would be demanding authenticity, that you find the truth within your narrative.

If you’re going to have an empty nest, make it a Phoenix nest!  Still, you could always Feng Shui your house for the maximum vibe and appeal to nomadic offspring.

What does everyone else think?

Image: Andrey Remnev

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SourPatchMM Member
SourPatch

May be late to this thread but I come in with the other POV? I moved out of my mother’s house a year ago to a city 3.5 hours away and I find myself alot of the time regretting it? It may be mostly out of stress; I’m living paycheck to paycheck and my current job gets worse and worse everyday. The only plus side is I’ve met alot of lovely people in this city ( mostly outside of work). Pluto will hit my Cap Asc which I believe is between 19-21 degrees, and I can already feel it blasting… Read more »

em priceMM Member
em price

I love what Mystic wrote about the director who demands authenticity! This feels so true to me about the Pluto-Moon transit. I am in one right now. It’s interesting to think of the transit as already being so active for Amanda, since mine is 16 Cap and I really feel like what I’m experiencing now is a whole other level, *but* it does feel true to me that this one inches up for years. I had been attributing a lot of movement toward authenticity that began years ago (like 2012) to Saturn aspects, but I guess there was also Pluto… Read more »

em priceMM Member
em price

and I didn’t mean that my particular experiences are another level as compared to hers, I meant it as compared to mine when I had a similar Pluto-Moon orb. 🙂

sphinx
sphinx

Aww! So resonant.
I can imagine being half thrilled and half terrified for my bunnies.

Do you remember Mystic’s free Lodestone meditation? I listened to this meditation on the rainbow serpent tonight and thought of you Kataka Moon Lady.

Catfish moon
Catfish moon

Sigh.. I understand the fear…my sons’ have Capps rising and whenpluto crossed over their ascendant a, one was severely injured, surgeries, bedridden, prescription drugs, addiction …all as a teenager.

I have cancer sun….natal pluton on my 5th house opposing it….my niece killed herself.

My non injured son moved 12 hours away to college.

My daughter has campy acpscendant too, but Pluto has not reached it yet.

They are all so different. The ride is frightening and ?I have been damaged, but I keep positive, pray, feed the light.

Catfish moon
Catfish moon

And yes, I moved across a huge co tine t at 19 and never moved back. So glad my son is still reachable in a day.

Aquarianne
Aquarianne

My daughter left NZ age 19 and has never lived here since. She is 36 now, living overseas with her husband and My Grandson 🙂 who will be 1 in December. I also have 2 other adult children living overseas and one who will live in various countries with his job. I visit my children overseas regularly and most Christmas’s they come home. We skype often and I watch the grandchildren develop and grow. It is very funny when the little ones see you walk in the room and then pick them up when they are used to seeing me… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Hey Amanda , I was wondering if given your 12th house combined with cancerian sensitivities , and the fact that this is an outer planet, maybe you are actually tapping into a part of the Universal as much as your own sense of loss and irreversible change? This rich vein of existence that is also inflected with bitterness grief and pain. Do you write? Could you dive into this sense and voice it for others? I wonder if it would be interesting (or comfortable I guess) for you to indulge all your worst fears and highest hopes as a work… Read more »

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

This reminds me of this song. The feeling is universal. Might be time to read up on some feminine myths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CfwGwhcycI

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Forewarned is priceless. I went through my Pluto moon conjunction without knowing what was going on. I had my chart read and knew some basics but I didn’t follow transits at that point. I’m Scorpio rising with strong outer planets, and my experience materialized the confusion I felt in my inner world. Not sure if you will experience it that way or not, but that’s what manifested for me. I would say don’t dwell and find those things that give you comfort and stability without screeching back to a former place. I have a Sag moon conjunct Neptune in the… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

“Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans” (Lennon. Libra with Aqua Moon)

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I put that quote next to my senior picture in the high school yearbook.

AquabaticsMM Member
Aquabatics

Oh goodness this is so timely. Approaching the end of P’s transit to my 15′ Cap moon, and I don’t feel as though I’ve adequately picked through the remains within the wheelbarrowful of shite. Kudos to you Amanda for your inspirational self-awareness – I shall try to emulate when when Pluto carries on to oppose and conjunct 4 more of my planets in the coming years. This may be a good time to swap my Saturnine talisman for a Plutonian one – any suggestions for appropriate materials?

PiMM Member
Pi

A piece of the asteroid that ended the dinosaurs set into a pendant made from a Rare Earth element in the periodic table, one of those freaky new ones that is only made under unique conditions in a nuclear reactor. For the string to hang it, strands of your own hair , for the Samson Delilah references, no one controls takes gives your power except you.

AquabaticsMM Member
Aquabatics

Love this! So perfect <3 But until such time as I can get my paws on nucleo elements, I'll make do with pestering the meteorites at the local museum. They have one on display where touching is allowed. You have to sit on the floor to be able to hug it 🙂

PiMM Member
Pi

A talisman that you wrap your self around instead of vice versa… I like it!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

This is great. My son is 10 & I’ve begun preparing myself for the day when he leaves the nest– cuz it’s going to be *hard* for me! His Moon is on my IC, & I have natal Moon-Pluto in the 7th; (so far) it’s only ever been the two of us. Of course he is his own person & everything I do is to prep him for autonomy, but there will always be a part of me forever missing that short, magical time he was a little boy… *sniffle* This is the hardest part of parenting: letting them go.… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

I’ve got a plan, though: I hope to be in a place to start my non-profit horse rescue/sanctuary when my boy flies off 😉 that’ll keep my mothering self busy!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

(MC-North Node in Sagittarius, I have.)

PiMM Member
Pi

Love your idea. : )

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

I had Pluto opposing my 1H Cancer Moon during the Zap Zone. Pluto was George Cukor to my Moon. Cukor was a gay man known as being “a woman’s director”, able to coach the best performances out of actresses. 🙂 My natal Moon is already involved in a tricky t-square with Uranus and Chiron, and this configuration did not make things easy either. I had some health scares during this transit (Pluto rules my 6H) – a mass growth in my pituitary gland and the temporary loss of my central vision. Adaptation, survival, transformation were the main themes. I had… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

Hey ICP, love this delineation and glad it all worked out x

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Thanks, Centaurus. xx

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve learnt a lot about astrology since 2013 but at the time of the ZZ hadn’t thought about how Jup had cjd my Asc op Pluto.

I thought Eastwood was filming my life.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Yeah, PF, we were caught in the fire of that Grand Cardinal Cross with Jupiter shouting: “bigger, louder, higher”. Eastwood? Ok. Inspired by Sergio Leone, I bet. 🙂

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

Oooh, Miss Dee said this just makes for a stronger Cancer Moon, which I love that idea. My moon is at 27 Cancer and I, too, have had my eye on the upcoming Pluto opposition (complement) transit for similar, foreboding reasons. My moon is in the 8th and the closest aspect in my chart is moon sextile Pluto by like one second. Very Pluto-Moon here. (Also Pluto conj Sun and MC.) I wrote Mystic also and you know what she said? I’m paraphrasing here but she said to stop giving energy to all the worn out, old fashioned shite on… Read more »

rachelMM Member
rachel

My partner has a cap moon also–in the 12th…

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

15 degree Cap moon-Lilith conjunct here, so this has been my transit since forever. It falls in my 5th house, and it has been brutal. In the early years everything got razed to the ground and in my head I sort of see this transit as apocalypse/post-apocalypse.
Short version: ideas and illusions about creativity and creative practice destroyed; replaced by more meaningful and authentic beliefs. Relationships completely reconfigured.
Just now the opposition to my 11th house has also come into play. Lots of friends leaving. Tribes disappearing. New tribes on the horizon.

rachelMM Member
rachel

Sex? Fun?

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

Pluto tr my 5th house too. Don’t see it as apocalyptic but it is the kind of “intense” you cannot get yourself out of until you have fully done your transformation.

I had it opposing my Venus in Kataka in the 11th and fell il love, but not reciprocated.
I guess I have learnt some things back then but I am not sure I have the whole “self love” down right and I feel that now I have a second chance.
One thing for sure: if you don’t abide to its beams and transform, it keeps hitting on that same button mercylessly.

Irock
Irock

14 degree Cap moon here (8th house) and yes, ‘brutal’ is a good way to describe it. I like your apocalypse/post-apocalypse analogy. Very apt.

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

“If Pluto were a film director, he would be one of those intense ones always demanding authenticity”. I am so using this as a guideline for the Pluto Transit I’ll be re-experiencing toward year end and then in 2017. As for Amanda: one thing that often characterize Pluto transits – in my personal experience – is guilt. And fear, like ape-shit-crazy going all control freak fear. But guilt and fear are the way for NOT looking at what he’s showing to you. You should be authentic and show your pain for the separation, live through it and then evolve (that’s… Read more »

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

Sorry for double message but I think Pluto also like concrete changes so once you have processed your kids leaving home you could visit your parents or do some changes to you home so that it evolves with your live and help you through this process. Moon is home yes but Moon in Kataka is like 1000 times stronger in this process.
My mum is a Sun in Katata and whatever happens she needs her home to mirror a certain phase of her life so I guess that would help too.

rachelMM Member
rachel

And with the Neptune south node action–reflection on the past makes sense yeah?

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

Totally. Plus it would be in the 8th house for Amanda, so the “psychological” and “transformation” mood of this period is enhanced through that too.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

A thought flowing from yours: Cancerian Moon for Amanda is in the Shadow Self 12th House.

While that Ascendant in Leo with Merc may have previously manifested as more sunny, warm and loving golden with her son and daughter.

When the BIG SUN is shadowed it’s an incredible depth-trip, and hard going.

PiMM Member
Pi

Pluto is Werner Herzog?

emgMM Member
emg

Has to be said but I don’t get the empty nest thing. I brought my daughter up not as mine but as her own and knew my job was to provide all she needed to go out into the world and seek her very individual life. Our relationship is very Pluto based and she’s always hammered me for not being a pink frilly Walt Disney cute mum who wraps her entire existence around her child and I’ve had to explain that I’m very much about living your own life and I was never ever going to be demanding of her… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Just WOW.

That is so not what kind of mother i thought a Cancer Sun Moon stellium would be.

Grateful to you for breaking open an astro-stereotype, and aligning it more in tune with aspects of Kataka Kardinal i have sensed before.

emgMM Member
emg

It has taken me quite a while to get to grips with what cancer means for me. All this gooey home loving mumsy stuff was missing the mark. But I consider cancer is about creating a very safe space to be authentic from which you can then go grab the world before retreating. I’m good at creating that space literally and physically.

emgMM Member
emg

But I’m crap at being mumsy!!

PiMM Member
Pi

Thanks for describing this this way. It’s how I am beginning to see the crab people. It’s the security and safety.

MissDeeMM Member
MissDee

I have a Kataka Mum and she’s been nowhere near what you are for your daughter. Way to go!

Letters
Letters

this is brilliant! I am also cancer sun/moon and this speaks very true to me too- as I get older I realize authenticity is HUGE.

Ampersand
Ampersand

Cancer Moon in the 12th, sextile tr Pluto in the 6th Cancer Moon sextile your Sun in 2nd Tr Pluto trine your Sun in 2nd 12th house, 6th house, 2nd house affairs then. I think you show a rare level of awareness of your parenting, at least in my experience. I ran like the wind to Asia as soon as I could and I stayed there for years. This was because my parents were awful, sabotaged my life at every turn. You are not awful. I really felt for you because the letter summed up the heartbreak of what I… Read more »

Ampersand
Ampersand

Sorry,Cancer Moon opposing tr Pluto. Opposing, or seen in another light, complementing.

Cris
Cris

“If Pluto were a film director, he would be one of those intense ones always demanding authenticity” Kubrick comes to mind.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

agreed. Pluto doesn’t mince words. He is the great Transformer.

timtamMM Member
timtam

Its trine my taurus moon in the 9th and finally going on my dream trip all over europe wooooo

Irock
Irock

Hey, good to know as he’s just entered my 9th and I’ve had a hell of a time these last few years with him in the 8th. Thanks for posting!

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Gosh wow. Aren’t Pluto transits amazing….all about the re-birth….

Well yeah, look to the transformative possibilities. You’ll come out of this stronger.

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

I can’t help but think – is there anywhere you want go? What an opportunity to just pack your bags and hit the road! Obviously not hot on their trail haha awkward.. but given you relocated to the other side of the world it sounds like you’ve had the travel bug at least once. Maybe home can wait?

JaneyMM Member
Janey

Last month I sent my 11yr old to live with his father, who lives two hours away. He was diagnosed with eating disorder last year and ended up in hospital for three weeks in July. He is a compulsive exerciser. I also have a two yr old and I was really struggling. And his father and I made the decision that it is in his best interest to live with him. His father and I have never had a good relationship , and even as co parents. After years in court, we finally have some sort of healing. I’m still… Read more »

JaneyMM Member
Janey

I have Sun 18 and Venus 25 Cancer

kriblackMM Member
kriblack

Not a parent, but I don’t think it’s irrational at all to feel bereavement when your kids leave home. It’s a huge life change. And it’s only natural now, to feel empathy for what your parents went through when you left. It’s not karma in the sense that you’re getting yours now, it’s just the way life is. You couldn’t/shouldn’t have stayed for your parents then any more than your kids can/should stay now. Life is a series of changing stages and as you go through them, you gain the insight and wisdom that brings compassion. Have compassion for your… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Yes, I think it’s harsh on yourself to see it as “payback” (because Karma is not strictly speaking, payback or you getting just desserts). Another person who is not a mother here, but god the mother-daughter relationship is one i am watching evolve over time. The things i appreciate or don’t like now but understand so much better!!! The young mothers in our family don’t necessarily find more sympathy for our own mother, either. In fact, interestingly, they see in sharp relief the deficits in the childhood mothering. Also i watch how our own adult developments are triggering growth in… Read more »

Greenwitch
Greenwitch

What a beautiful post, Milleunanotte.
It made me cry in joy to read such authenticity.

Thank you

Ali
Ali

Uplifting and sincere. Just beautiful. Thank you, milleunanotte. xx

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

I wish my mom, all mom the moms in my line had access to your depth of awareness. As a daughter, I hope this doesn’t sound trite, I thank you.

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

I have moon at 19 Capricorn so I appreciate this question very much! After a lifetime of Pluto conjoining every one of my planets except Uranus in Leo, this will be the last one, then it hits my MC at 25 Cap. (At 59, I don’t know if it’ll get to my Chiron in Aquarius). Good luck to you and both your children, they sound amazing.

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

My moon is in his sights too in 2020 and right after Saturn has paid a visit. That should all be.. um, memorable. Have a lifetime of Pluto pings sans Saturn and Chiron. Maybe I’ll see it and you’re right we don’t know, but if I do at that point I don’t know if I’ll be fretting about the transit. Amanda – thanks for sharing. I wonder if evolved/growth orientated people can oftentimes be the hardest on themselves (ok, so can Virgo) in the pursuit of more growth, applying exacting standards of what = doing it well. Your honesty won’t… Read more »

Gwyn
Gwyn

I have moon at 23 Cancer and am very aware of this upcoming transit. I also have a Sun Saturn conjunction in the seventh house at 16 and 15 respectively. It’s been one hell of a year. This time last year, with Pluto approaching that square and Uranus conjunct Sun Saturn and approaching the square to the moon, my marriage was torn apart. After eighteen years of relative calm, a tsunami hit. All our friends have been astonished to learn that we were both unhappy. In six weeks I’ll be divorced. It’s been rapid and painful and it feels like… Read more »

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