The River Of Neptune

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Saturn Neptune

Always stay on the bridge between the invisible and the visible.
β€” Paulo Coelho

We are in the very last days of the Saturn-Neptune square. After this, there won’t be any significant Saturn-Neptune action until June 2025, when they will conjunct at 1 degree of Aries.

So if you are one of those people who have been evolving to a crazy-ludicrous degree since October last year, you’ve only got another nine days of the journey to go.

However, it is super-strength now. The top picture depicts the classic scare-trap of an astral passage like this; while it is a fantastic time to gain awareness or rise above subliminal compulsions, it is also treacherous turf for addictions and murky emotional states.

If Neptune is a river or an inland sea or a pool of consciousness, Saturn is the earth that contains it. And the current vibe is when you want to keep that “water” as pure and flowing as possible.

Read or re-read the ten Saturn-Neptune tips for more and watch out for the more personalized skews in your Horoscopes but at base, this is a phase in which to be very careful around anything sneaky, addictive or of a Love Zombie nature. We all learn the hard way* to never take our eye off Saturn and Saturn in Sagittarius functions best on transparency.

*Β  The “hard way” is always Saturn, nobody loves it but it is highly effective and the knowledge/lesson retention rate is huge.

 

Tom Schanz

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JessicaPMM Member
JessicaP

Has to be particularly cruel to experience this Saturn-Neptune square with Saturn exactly on my Neptune. And on my stellium of secondary progressed planets, sun, moon mercury, the whole lot.

cries inaudibly

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Ouch

TripleLMM Member
TripleL

My triple Virgo son arrested today. DUI, plus some other charges. Born with Pluto in the 1st. Here’s hoping for the long overdue wake up call. He turned 19 just 12 days ago. Hello, eclipses!

LadyLehMM Member
LadyLeh

Omg, the serpent of transformation puking blood into the wine glass – YOW! I’ve been base-murky-addiction-boozing Neptuning still and feel a bit shamed by it but focusing more on Saturning it and shedding it. I can do this, I still have some days to complete this, right? I *think* this is exactly what’s supposed to be going on chez me, messy as it is…..

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

This has all been about my home base and have felt the restrictions / solid plan making / dream chasing to come out the other side with a revamped life and the flat I can really LIVE in …. Still need to sign but happy to wait for the final stage

3rd House Moon conj Nep Scorp – 4th House Mars Sag

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Keep that Neptune flowing & gradually it’ll erode those Saturn banks until your little creek is a great river. Build a raft, float away.

PiMM Member
Pi

That river also forms the ground water table beneath the Saturn earth. In times of drought it is still there, feeding the trees wise enough to have deep roots, because they know the territory. Occasionally a wetland or swamp appears elsewhere to remind us that Neptune is always there with its subsurface sustenance. When it rains, we on the surface are rinsed, it’s just water rejoining the source and we let it pass accordingly.

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Gorgeous πŸ™‚ Yes.

socialgraffitiMM Member
socialgraffiti

The general mood is of irritation, with the Dark Moon (and me being a Cancer rising), Mercury retro, + Saturn sq. Neptune. Generally, I like challenges and overcoming obstacles but these three things combined are just giving me stupid setbacks, especially in the workplace.

I’m Saturn as hell, and a busy working professional so I can’t simply ‘relax’ and dream my life away, which is the only thing this environment seems to permit. I’m just waiting until Mercury gets his head straight again.

gogengoMM Member
gogengo

It’s so much easier for me to do Neptune but doing Saturn is incredibly satisfying – I have Saturn square Neptune natally + this transit has been rough. And my pull towards all things low form Neptune has been intense. Not only with substances but with financials and responsibilities. Lower Neptune would like me to blow things off, not follow through – it is taking literally all my willpower to keep myself out of trouble. Doing Saturn feels so much better in the long run + I have to keep reminding myself that doing the work now will be so… Read more »

Corrina
Corrina

OMG really? No significant Saturn-Neptune action until I am like … dead? or partially dead? possibly in a cryogenic chamber.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

Have I been evolving? Are you fucking seriously asking me that question? Evolving? I’ve been de-freakin-volving. I have so de-volved that I’ve lost all fascination or interest in evolving. More like clinging on, doona diving. Whatever this is or WAS. I don’t like it. I didn’t like it. I won’t like it tomorrow either.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

“Half-hearted, almost high-five, oh forget about it” right back at you.

I was looking at my “inspiration” file and feeling angry about every single word in there. Uplifting ideas and go-for-it quotes and paragraphs of how to be in the moment and …whatever…I’m just tired.

Corrina
Corrina

*chuckles* god I so get your ennui and that angry, disappointed feeling that somehow all this woo woo positive stuff is just a bullshit rort. It just don’t work no more does it? I mean I TRY to drag myself back into the world and like … eat lots of omega 3 or whatevs. But within hours I collapse back into this sense of hopeless defeat. So weird. Have never been like this … and it’s not like I haven’t been through my fair share of crap times before. My theme for the year is that REM song Losing My… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

“So weird. Have never been like this … and it’s not like I haven’t been through my fair share of crap times before.” <— Saturn in Sag. Yep. Never been like this before.

Now I get why I've been so noxious to people with natal heavy Saturn. Jupiter rules my chart, and lives in its own house. "There's always another fucking awesome rainbow, people! Really! Pot of gold for everyone!"

Saturn's a prick to that bubble.

PiMM Member
Pi

Just yesterday you let a bunch of stuff ‘go’, that’s a thing isn’t it? The shift.

In the meantime you could join my Church of Blanketology. A new religion for those seeking comfort, respite and occasionally a cape.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I’m joining, Pi. I’ve been wishing for a cult I can believe in.

PiMM Member
Pi

All are welcome.

Also prowln I get it sorry about that x

Corrina
Corrina

So does this Church of Blanketology involve carbs, naps and cat therapy?

Can one of its ethos be Movement Is A Sin … beyond the obvious of course.

Like moving from the couch to the bathroom is ok because above all we Blanketologists pride ourselves on making room for more pizza crumbs. And movement to the shops for more carbs is also ok because not all the best stores home deliver.

PiMM Member
Pi

the church of blanketology only requires that one has a blanket, and that this blanket is used in the attainment of personal comfort and/or safety. Charlie Brown is one of its prophets.
Thus there is no conflict with your above queries.

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Fuq, Prowln: 2025 is only 9 yrs from now! It’ll be back before we know it lol

Corrina
Corrina

SHHHHHHHHH don’t tell me THAT!!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Lol! Soz. But you’re good: tough af. So you’ve come to the place where the clear cut path ends & it’s all overgrown, unchartered territory ahead. You know it’s cool to rest here & wait for a signal re in which direction to start clearing a new path. This is recoop & rejuvie time, that’s all. Until 2025, when we’ll all do another version of what’s happening now ahahaha Will Pluto be in my 12th house then?? *more maniacal laughter*

Ms.
Ms.

It’s been evolve then duvet then fear then fuck it and repeat

Ella
Ella

How come we’ve only got 9 days left of the square ends on the 22nd? This is a serious question… I’m really confused. ?

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Saturn starts separating (departing) from the exact square with Neptune who is Retrograde atm. Saturn moves faster.

Ella
Ella

Thaaaaaanks!!!! Makes sense ?

Ella
Ella

Oops. No question. Mark. Typo ?

Ella
Ella

I don’t know why it keeps putting ? Marks!! But I don’t mean them. Thanks

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Was B Joel onto somethn in the “The River of Dreams”?

ElectroMM Member
Electro

PF, last night I had a dream that you were in nyc and I was like I have to go meet PF, he is so close. You were a real life superhero.

seriously

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

I had a dream I was at Invicta’s apartment in London. I had been watching At the Museum and Invicta warned me that the apartment self regulates when she goes out at night and don’t get caught inside. I got caught inside and the whole place started a steaming misty sprinkler system and huge plants were waving about and an elephant and hyena came to me to see what I was doing there – it was scary but cool! Thanks for having me round Invicta!

PiMM Member
Pi

I LOVE this so much.

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

“I’ll let you be in my dream, if l can be in yours”
Dylan.

Are we not already in everybody’s dream?

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Don Juan says the trick is to wake up in the dream, then go to sleep in the dream in the exact same position physically you are in in ‘reality’. Then do it again. Lucid dreaming in the lucid dream of the lucid dream. I think we bypass the matrix or something, lol! That dream was the night of the eclipse. I had also been watching an African animal show and this guy was petting hyenas and gushing over how sociable and affectionate they are πŸ˜‰ We need MM to set an astral date to get together in the dreamscape… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

Totally. doing the hard boring way but saturn is literally all over my chart right now anything else would be stupid in the light of my current situation. Can’t even feel neptune right now except for pangs of gluten free beer/comfort food, missing people and exhausted inspired pangs of sadness. My ex keeps trying to shag me (fuck and run style) but I’ve expressed how I feel about that. The scorpio in me is mildly flattered I’m not entirely forgettable in bed, however the aftermath is too complex to bother- It’s nothing compared to setting up a life forever. I’ve… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

I feel in-synch to what you write. I have no buzzing out options via food or drink–too many sensitivities (which I suppose is another version of Nept in Pisces). So I walk around harumphing and angry at Saturn and its austerity plan for me. (Raises fist!)

Ms.
Ms.

no buzz out indeed. Austerity plan and chastity belt

PiMM Member
Pi

Interested to hear how you progress with physical cloud storage option. There’s never been a better time to invent a replicator. One could just reprint the whatever. Not sure of success rates with the art work etc though. Hmm.

PiMM Member
Pi

Come to think of it, I bet Uranus in Taurus is replicator territory.

Ms.
Ms.

lol basically. Comfort items replicator, at least I will be in sync

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

So does “physical equivalent of personal cloud storage” mean downloading yourself anywhere you want in the world?

(Hat tip to Pi for helping me put this idea together in my head…I liked it as words but it hadn’t made sense until their comment.)

Ms.
Ms.

I just want a place to store my things when I move around so much because the buy sell everything is tiresome and you can’t collect anything its the only downside, that and where are all my friends? I would love to store my non travel items and download them in another location and store the rest. Yes

As Pi points out, very Uranus in Taurus.

I have a stellium of Uranus, mercury and sun its about time I invented something

Ampersand
Ampersand

I loved the analogy of Neptune as water and Saturn the earth that contains it. The water fills up the gaps in the earth? If I could say anything about this transit it would be that I have stopped ‘filling in the gaps’ with other people. I have stopped talking and arranging plans with people (I am usually the initiator of plans, my chart is very Cardinal), to see what would be left afterwards and who would step up to the plate to see me if I just stopped. It sorted the wheat from the chaff. I have cooked endless… Read more »

Ampersand
Ampersand

I have a nice Saturn in Sag transiting the 4th thing going on today. O/T a little but I am excited. I am looking after a little dog this afternoon who belonged to a Sag lady that recently passed. I went to her funeral as she was the mum of a friend of mine. I never met this lady because in the end she was just too ill, but by all accounts we would have got on very well, and we similar in a “big mouth Sag” kind of way (I have Venus and Neptune in Sag and a loaded… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

This is so beautiful. Thanks for sharing it. x

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

I hope you and the puppy have some quality time together. Would a little dog would fit in an apartment if you get lots of walks in?

Ampersand
Ampersand

Thank you! πŸ™‚ Kids and dogs are not allowed in our apartment, so it would involve another house move. However, this one is a tiny runt of the litter Jack Russell and I’m going to hide her under my jacket, and hope that if my friend is unable to look after her permanently then we can have her and try to keep her a secret for a bit and move when we are ready. I know that several people own secret cats. PRAY FOR ME! She has the same name as the only dog I ever owned as a kid,… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

Secret cats <3

Secret dogs <3

Annica
Annica

What transit would that be? Mercury in the 12th?
Neptune in the 6th?
πŸ˜€

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

Oh yeah, you are meant to be together, landlords be damned! I too am a Sag with a little dog fitting roughly that description and I can only hope that if anything were to happen to me someone new would come along for my little buddy.

Ampersand
Ampersand

Aw Mabel πŸ™‚
We had her overnight in the end, she was fab, such a tonic. Managed to take up half of a king sized bed even though she is smaller than a cat. Grew in character hour on hour. She had a massive strop when she was told “No” about something, it was so funny, there was actually huffing and writhing in the floor like a toddler. Oh I miss her now.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Moving towards equanimity is a good thing. That’s the power position. Once we ‘take sides’ on people and issues we lose that power. Neutrality is the first step to finding equanimity. Of course neutrality is like social poison. Friendships and family fealty often insists on you taking sides. It’s good to analyze these commitments and unspoken expectations.
Good luck with the new biz, you’ll be needing a horse and cart in no time ! πŸ˜‰

PiMM Member
Pi

yes! thank you for taking sides with equanimity (lol). I think this is very libra north node. If I am all mixed up about something, or if I am in an extremely stressful conflict situation, the absolute best thing I can do is head for “what is the highest good in this situation” , and avoiding getting caught in the razor-wire and cavalettis that bounds the conflict itself. I instantly feel less stressed when I am not invested in dominating some situation – unless there is a very good reason for that (legal, everyone else is throwing their toys out… Read more »

LiliMM Member
Lili

So true!!

Savgemi
Savgemi

Seriously. Been through hell and back. Thanks for light at the end of the tunnel! Counting down, trying to stay in the new higher vibe!

Mina
Mina

I feel exactly this

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Wow, well we are almost done. It’s been swinging between my Gemini sun and Mars opposition for what seems like an age. Good bye and good luck indeed. It has been quite the trip and relentless. Then there was the eclipse just to add in a bit of extra mutable cross action to the pile. So much delusion busting, I barely know myself anymore. What an astro boot camp if ever there was one.

fishgirlMM Member
fishgirl

This is such a saturn/neptune week! Yin yoga is really helping me, alongside 1 hour military style workouts at the gym and bio-ceuticals ultra muscleze night. Venus into Libra has made the obsession with balance in my Virgo eclipse health resolutions even more pronounced…

Annica
Annica

Huge purge of things related to previous era including things from exes who have no meaning anymore. Burned potent shit to ashes today.
Took a kayak journey and felt renewed.

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

While I was going through (not around – THROUGH) the last 11 months I would lament how SLOW it was all going. But looking back in hindsight, wow – amazed. I’m back to my authentic spiritual connection. I no longer excuse frenemies. I am no longer over-giving. I have looked some of my shadows that I was aware of but never dealt with and just processed feelings with a fine-toothed comb. Plus the synchronicity – used to lament that since leaving Canada it hadn’t quite been the same. But now that I have realigned with my spiritual truth it’s all… Read more »

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Oh, thank you Saturn. Sure, it can feel tedious. You want results NOW NOW NOW but clearing needed to occur. I had decluttered my house SO much over the last 2 years (to the point where I am over it, lol) but I needed to spiritually and emotionally declutter, especially after 3 years of setting new career and life foundations. So funny – I looked back on crushes last week and feel nada for any of them. I “get” now why they were crushes and not actual romances – I was working through some baggage at a distance. Going IN… Read more »

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

i love the compromise you made with the TV in the bedroom! i have been thinking that way lately, too. making things work and being clear about my reasoning for things i want; figuring out ways to get around the stuff that i inherently don’t really dig to get doing the things i wanna do…

and the 1 september synchronicity! wicked.

flow on~ xx

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Muah!

PiMM Member
Pi

Thank you very much mystic. Well timed, good to read this just now. Have been feeling the emo and not doing Saturn quite right until the past couple of days maybe . Love that Coelho quote.. words to live by. New moon was SO buzzy last night. I realised that the comms clean-up (in the least and most esoteric sense) is my focus and it feels good to not constantly mentally “reach-out” so much where it is not productive just now. Instead trying to foster a general atmosphere of psychic congeniality (compared to angst, pressure or need) . Have also… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

And Pluto juice is starting to boost the process I think. Plus some other stuff.

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

“psychic congeniality” is a very nice set of words together. I like it (considering I, too, have been all “angst, pressure & need”).