The Chariot For Now

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The Chariot is always a brilliant Tarot card to see in any setting. It’s like “turn pro and stay pro”  – usually a cue to keep moving. As in, if your query was something related to “should i stay and fight this or give it one more go?”, the Chariot is like “no way.”  You just thunder on.  One of its old style meanings was “speedy travel/progress in luxurious surroundings.”

This is one of the delineations for it from the Tarot here on site, as an example.  The Chariot also has…

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associations with Thor, Mars, Freya (the Norse Venus, she has a chariot drawn by black cats – hence their association with magic!) and the Sun God Apollo. The Charioteer is not advancing on a whim, he or she is aligning with the stars, is wiser from past defeats and exerting extreme strength of will synced with intuition.  It is associated with the Zodiac sign (and principles of Cancer/Kataka) hence the Crab on the helmet of the knight here in the Thoth deck.

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Other symbology; the Holy Grail, the wings of Mercury, the Sphinxes. Its the ultimate in self-mastery and self-fueled progress.  In Ancient Rome, the Goddess Nike was seen as the patron of charioteers, as well as the Victory goddess.  Here is the Dali version of The Chariot.

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JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I just got the Chariot in the 5th

PiMM Member
Pi

What’s peoples theory on reversed cards? Use or ignore? Personal preference?

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

My personal preference is to not read reversed. I’m not sure when I came to that decision, but it probably had to do with the added complexity of learning the reversed meanings.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Ha, literally just finished a tarot reading and was wondering how much credence to give to the reversed cards.
Personally I gave them a 25% weighting in my mind.
As in, King of Swords upside down, “this is a logical guy with good thoughts on the matter, but he might be a little tired at the moment. ”
Instead of, “Beware the VICIOUS mind of the cutting King!!”

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Ha- I like your gentle take on it, sphinx! I think the inherent (perceived) negativity was another thing that made me shy away from reversals.

PiMM Member
Pi

Yes this! An actually humanised take on things

marsbar
marsbar

depends on the reading. Like if I am using 3 card – yes or no spread then i do NOT read the reversal because it wouldn’t make sense to. But maybe I would use the reversal as a modifier in other readings.

PiMM Member
Pi

Thanks guys. Yes I was kind of thinking don’t 52 cards and X placements have enough vocabulary on the matter? But sphinxs idea helpful.

Meredith
Meredith

The Chariot was following me all summer long, just kept showing it’s face! 🙂 Then here it is again. Super-sync. I’m beginning to think he never leaves.

Annica
Annica

From my own studies i find Chariot as a person would describe someone who has got things under control or thinks he does. chariot rev i find means low self esteem and an emotional train wreck.

Charles
Charles

That is a very interesting progression of images.

In the RWS deck, the Chariot is a cube. In Thoth, it’s a sphere. In the Dali card, it’s a plane. It’s a flat painting all pushed up on the picture plane.

ReikologyMM Member
Reikology

I pulled this card in two separate readings this week, on different topics. I get the message on both- for now so this really resonates. lol

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

Does anyone know what is the reasoning behind its connection with Cancer?

Catherine
Catherine

its planets are the Moon and Mercury..the Moon is exalted in Cancer. Its attributed to both Cancer and sagittarius. Chesed The Chariot is all about building energy to create abundance. the chariot with its coverings is a bit like a crab, carrying his house on his back!

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

There are obvious unification symbols and themes re: the reconciliation of opposites inherent in the symbolism of the RSW version via the lingam/yoni on the front of the chariot itself (which is also a wheel and axle turned on its head) as well as the black and white sphinxes driving the vehicle, which do echo the black & white pillars of the Moon-ruled High Priestess. To successfully control the direction of the Outer, we must first control the mysteries of the Inner, and so The Chariot builds upon he some of the lunar themes we encounter via the High Priestess… Read more »

QuellpunktMM Member
Quellpunkt

Thank you for this LV, beautiful! Totally agree that the important decisions originate in the nonverbal embodied emotional awareness, which is then filtered through the intellect.

PiMM Member
Pi

This is amazing, thank you so much.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Thanks so much, guys – I love talking/learning about occult subjects and symbolism is like a second language to me! My library is full of books on esoteric subject matter, as I have a Plutonic Mars in Gemini. Authors like Garen, Greer, & Pollack (tarot) comprise a healthy chunk of it. There are some works of fiction, too, to satisfy the Neptune. But by and large it’s comprised of esoterica – arcane subjects have always fascinated me and I’m happy whenever I can talk about it with other people who also look at life on a deeper level and are… Read more »

Catherine
Catherine

In Hebrew the chariot is chesed (or is given that letter all the major arcana have a magical letter) which means an enclosed space or a fence. This can mean home or magical protection the armour etc. It can mean aligning personal will with divine I e focus so can mean moving forward on many levels
In Hebrew it is also attributed to Sagittarius. I have cancer in 9 th with Jupiter conjunct Uranus and feel for me it also signifies journeys within and flashes of illumination.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Then there’s the moons on the shoulders of the Chariot Rider from Rider-Waite deck too, hadn’t noticed before…

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Was getting the Chariot a LOT for a minute – when everything was mega still. Now that things are moving again I am getting the Hanged Man and the Moon – go figure, lol.

King of Cups though – he’s a constant. I actually get the Page and Knight PLUS the Ace, 2 and 9 of Cups in the same reading. I usually get those male court cards in the 3rd, 5th, 7th, or 11th houses too.

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I find it interesting that the Chariot is Kataka-aligned. Esp considering Kataka’s haus is the Home affairs office. I woulda guessed Sagg or Aries. On the other hand l developed a love of cars n bikes nine years before l was born.

skarabMM Member
skarab

I agree, i could never figure out why this card was representative of Cancer.

I’ve also read some Hermitists that claim it is representative of Gemini – calling it the “Curriculum Hermetis” (Chariot of Hermes).

QuellpunktMM Member
Quellpunkt

Well Kataka’s “house” is both physical and emotional, the metaphorical “house” that contains the soul which is nurtured within. The chariot protects the rider and takes her where she wants to go, like the exoskeleton of the crab. Also, I see Mercurial and travel connections with Kataka, as the moon is always changing, and new information constantly being presented, plus of course the crab is always scuttling here and there to find the best conditions. Jupiter is exalted in Kataka because to reach the Jupiterian heights of wisdom, one must first nurture the soul in it’s interiority. Also, I’ve always… Read more »

QuellpunktMM Member
Quellpunkt

I recently listened to an interview with Austin Coppock in which he briefly mentioned that in the traditional system of astrology the Moon was assigned some of the qualities of Mercury bc of it’s constant phase changing and illumination of vital info

QuellpunktMM Member
Quellpunkt

Monique Pommier has an excellent description of Jupiter’s exaltation in Kataka: http://moniquepommier.com/exaltation-jupiter-cancer/

She cites Rudolph’s Steiner’s metaphor of the caterpillar in the crysalis transforming into the butterfly. The physical house (the crysalis) is crucial, but even more so is the complete transformation going on inside, which results in the butterfly which flies (Jupiter). A lot of modern astrology focuses solely on the physical domicile ruled by Kataka. The domicile is essential for protecting the deeper alchemical work going on inside, but I’m more interested in that transformative process which is hidden.

helloiseMM Member
helloise

Thanks for this – what an illuminating take on Cancer!

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

ooh, like the dali version

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