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Javier Gonzalez

Scorpios and Scorpio-Identifying People!  Lilith has been in Scorpio since late May and is now applying pressure to the Sun in Leo. So if you’re doing Lilith you will feel the vibe on a grand scale today and over the weekend.  You can discover ore info – if this is super-relevant to you – in the Horoscopes.

But how are you doing with this?

Lilith – a primer – is the first wife of Adam in the really old testament. Yes, before Eve. She is like the grandmother of all the biblical upstarts (Jezebel, the Whore of Babylon, Salome etc) and symbol of all the ultra-yonic (new term here) ancient goddesses subsumed into a (literally) demonized female figure. The Snake, sexual urges, patriarchy subversion, the Apple of Venus, she has it all.

The astrological Lilith operates like a Lady-Mars except with more willingness to be left the fuq alone to do her own thing as opposed to seeking or relishing a Mars-style confrontation. Lilith in Scorpio (until early 2017) is primordial witch vibe.

So, thoughts? Or, feelings?

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PiMM Member
Pi

This has nothing to do with Scorpios (sorry for dropping in on y’all scorps) but makes more sense here than in the Leo in love post maybe maybe not. Tarot keeps dropping “money incoming finance mojo dayum coins errywhere” etc but I’m not in self-earning land at the moment, I just collect a pay cheque, and am slowly tidying up a few fiancial loose ends (change bank accounts, cancel a thing, paying off debts, amazing how you can do that via a day job) Anyway I was wondering if any tarot geniuses have other insights re this. Its also dropping… Read more »

Ampersand
Ampersand

If you are close to the end then you owe it to yourself to get this degree by whatever means possible. I don’t know much about tarot, but I do know about struggling to get a degree while having a day job. I wanted to go part-time because I was really poor and the day job was taking over, I was missing classes all over the place, and my tutor took me for a pint and said if you go part time we will never see you again, it will be too hard to do this for another year. He… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

A very belated thank you, Ampersand. Pi x

danearysMM Member
danearys

At first, I didn’t think that this would apply to me. Then I started thinking about things that are happening and took a second look. Wow is all I can say. My 3rd house is in Scorpio, and if Lilith is there now- she’s pretty timely. THough not necessarily in an easy way. I know that because the 3rd house rules communication, when she’s in there I can be even more stubborn in believing what I say than I already am. I know that I can easily dominate other people when I think something is right, and I am intense… Read more »

PandoraMM Member
Pandora

I am mean and oscillating Lilith between about 9 and 14 degs Scorp, mixed up with Venus 12 degs and Neptune 14 degs. All in my 12th, square Saturn at 7 degs Aqua.

It’s heavy, in the 12th, but it brings gifts if I totally let go of any desire to control what happens to those who have dissed/underestimated me.

My time is now.

PandoraMM Member
Pandora

Astrea in the mix, I forgot, at about 13 degs Scoros.

She’s why I am a fool.

She is also why the high road is the only road.

PandoraMM Member
Pandora

And Dave, if you’re listening, so is yours. xx

aquahair
aquahair

I have Lilith 10t housein gemini, virgo asc,Aqu sun in 6th and moon mars and neptune in scorpio, third house. I have to say I am feeling good this weekend , almost like the leash has been let off and I can just do what I need to do. I am not nasty, just a quirky independent women running multiple businesses a family and not in the mood for men to tell me to sit back and look pretty. Bring it on and let the deep and powerful female energy have a voice , because DADDY is not giving much… Read more »

Ampersand
Ampersand

Transiting Lilith in Scorpio conjuncts natal chart ruler Mercury in the third and sextiles my natal NN/Lilith conjunction in Cap 5th house.

Ha, i am currently obsessed with making sculptures of cacti (spiky 5th house Lilith, plants that take ages to grow, Cap) whilst having a nice cup of stfu in relation to Qi vamps (3rd house communique and knowing the game). Coincidence?

NONE SHALL PASS! Or I’ll set my Aloe Vera on you.

hdq
hdq

Two weeks ago, the Sagg and I: Wow, only a few weeks until we live together, and can you believe we’ve never fought about anything? Mutual swoon.
Now, Lilith on our Uranuses (Urani?) and opposing my Venus-Mars-Chiron-Moon: at each others throats. Resentment and fury. Two days until I’m officially moved in, and we may have broken up this morning. I have no chill. I am fuqing over chill.

Ampersand
Ampersand

That sounds rough. What are the arguments about, after so much time not arguing? If you don’t mind my asking.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

uranus retro on my chiron-i go round to my sons father to find him out of his head on precription drugs and drinking whilst looking after my son.
stressed doesnt fuqing cover it.
hes with his grandparents tonight.
his dad has serious addiction issues.
my son is a total daddys boy-or maybe he thinks he needs to look after him.
when will this let up…its been one stress after another…my adrenaline levels are so high.
help me goddess

Ampersand
Ampersand

Just been through Uranus on natal Chiron and it is the roughest thing. I have also seen my sister on presecription drugs and alcohol and it scared the living crap out of me.

I think you nailed it when you said “Or maybe he thinks he needs to look after him”. If he is a sensitive kid I would imagine this is exactly what is happening, a kid looking after a parent that is clearly no parent. I’m sorry mate this sounds awful, I hope you can call on your reserves and dig deep. Sending warm thoughts your way.

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

thankyou ampersand…how long does this last??
taking it day by day…dont know what to do.
on the upside i have taken a stand and said im having my son every other weekend.
before he was going to his dads…i thought i was making him happy but maybe it wasnt the best thing.
he manages to hold down a full time job, then binges out when hes on holiday or at the weekend.
well things are gonna change, thankyou for your concern x

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

hes got lillith exact on his sun at the mo, in tenth. squaring his natal saturn

Ampersand
Ampersand

Hi again, I’m not really sure if I can say exactly how long it lasted for me, because Uranus hadn’t conjuncted anything in my chart since it was in Aquarius in 1996, so I felt it coming way before it scored its first hit on Chiron. I won’t lie, it wasn’t pretty but I am a lot closer to sorting out my wounds and living with them than I was before. 18 months? Something like that? My special wound is parental neglect, I haven’t seen them for 2 years and it was due to a lifetime of behaviour that your… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

he’s nine.
it tends to be worse when his dads on holiday.
ur right abt him not saying anything out of loyalty.
its soo dificult…dont want to deny him access…but it will definitely shift so i have him every other weekend.
i dont want to be on tenderhooks when he’s at his dads tho!
grr one day at a time…
and im sorry for your situation..i kinda had that with my mother..which is why i went to live with my dad when i was eleven.
life eh? x x

Ampersand
Ampersand

One day at a time, for real. I wish you all the best and hope you can work it out. Sorry about your mum too, just hang in there x

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Shhh– I’m trying to make a thunderstorm! Less typing, more drumming.

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

(that’s a note to self, just to clarify. *raises hands, backs away*)

meredith rose
meredith rose

So glad for a moment of political vent. If it takes a Trump to stop Hillary, so be it. She is the archetype of Lady McBeth–she and her husband are slick con artists who have been lying and cheating for 40 years to amass a huge fortune – Aside from that, it all comes down to World War III. If you want it, vote for Hillary. She had already promised she will not take nukes off the table. Putin is concerned about US bases on Russia’s borders just like Germany did in 1931. Probably the world’s best chance is the… Read more »

LunaGreenMM Member
LunaGreen

Scorpio Rising,Venus+AC/Libra Sun+Pluto

1) MM, “ultra-yonic”– Brill! Totally layering that into my vocab. 🙂

2) Is a “Lilith Opposition” a thing? If so, I’m currently IN a Lilith opposition. With THE Lilith on my natal Uranus (conjunct my NN & Mars, 12th house). What should one expect from a “Lilith opposition”? I’ve looked back on journals from the last time she graced that space but, what say you in general? Love, love, love your insight!

3) Aside, but probably very apt to what Lilith is bringing now, I’m readying myself for a Uranus opposition after this Rx.

Saturnine
Saturnine

Lilith’s a couple degrees away from beign exactly on my natal jupiter in the 9th and so far, so good. I feel like I’m finally able to look for God in a joyful way after a couple of years of feeling abandoned or too rational to even bother. Now the search feels exciting, daring and I feel child-like in the best way (maybe it’s uranus on my natal lilith in aries?). And I’ve finally come to terms with not ever being able to participate in organized religion. Independent witchy vibes suit me best and are no better or worse way… Read more »

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Scarred for life from organized religion. Never again.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Me too

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Lilith is currently exact on my Uranus ascendant, effectively activating my t-square. Intense dreams and intuitive mayhem. When I woke today, I burned some hand-dipped Insense and all the smoke detectors went off, but not normally, they were beeping from different rooms at random times like they were birds singing. Now that I’m sitting on the deck, they are silent. Just realized my motherwort & mugwort tinctures are ready, so I’ll be bottling those today. As far as my Leo sun goes, we spent the day in DC for my birthday (Tuesday) and I was stroking meteorites and watching stars… Read more »

Carey
Carey

My natal Lilith is in Pisces my 11th and conjunct my chiron. I’m a 6th house south node neptune in Scorpio. You know how if you cut your finger there’s that layer of dermis that is ALL sensory and you just know how far to go if you were actually going to let someone cut your finger with a knife? That. if anyone in a social or community friend (not deep friend) situation gets close to that with judging, excluding or condemning me? I pull out the plug and I’m outta there lightening fast and doing it on my own.

narrelMM Member
narrel

So I have Sun in Leo ( 10th house), Scorpio rising, Lilith in Scorpio (1st house). I am kind of new to all of this, keen to learn but not depend on others for free readings. Does anyone have any tips on what I need to consider to understand the relationship between all of these ? I can find information readily available on the individual aspects of this for example, “lilith in scorpio means this” but when it comes to how they interrelate I find it it a bit more challenging ?! Perhaps I am not searching information correctly …

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Do you have any of Sasportas’ books? “The 12 Houses” is such a gem, it helps you look at the rulers of the houses and those interalations better than most websites can. Eg how the 1st & 10th houses relate. “Aspects in astrology” is great too.

Kent
Kent

I have Scorpio rising as well. I also have Leo in the Tenth. My Moon is in Leo. I have black moon Lilith in my first house along with Venus and Saturn in my first house in Scorpio. They are all in conjunction with my BML. Want to compare…lol

LiliMM Member
Lili

Lilith is on my Jupiter in Scorpio. That is Black Moon Lilith. She looks like a crescent moon on a stick. There is an asteroid point too- number 1181-and she is at 5 Scorpio natal. So double snake energy! Lots of skin shedding! LOL!

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Lilith in Aqua opposing my Sun in Leo.
I assume that this transiting Lilith is squaring These two.

Dunno about the witch aspect which isn’t my vibe, but Lady Mars? Roaaar.

Capricorn Full Moon in my 8th brought me resources and responsibilities.
Lilith I assume is making me quite happy to go the next bit alone thx.

Triple Air Gem
Triple Air Gem

I’ve got Lilith in Scorp in 10th house natally. Wide orb with MC. For ages it manifested as being the ‘bad’ femme fatale at work that guys projected their crap on to and women tried power plays on.

It seems to thankfully have transformed into more grounded goddessy (almost auto corrected to god easy lol) energy with me being in my power more and more respected. Bout bloody time haha!

marsbar
marsbar

Loving it so far, my Lilith return season! (also a Scorp moon) Everything witchy to the max! Hell yes! Intuitions back on track. Check. Love life with abundant sex life back on track. Check. Cute snakes hitching a ride on my car. Check, i released them in a safer area when stopped. This ain’t no Uber for reptiles yo! :p Just finished a cord cutting ceremony to psychically scrub myself clean of aries a-hole who ghosted me. You can’t abandon me; I choose to be with Gem. Leveling up in the biz world too, was just a guest on a… Read more »

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

Looking into declination I found my lilith was out of bounds. This surprised no one.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

LOL, good one, Nono!

As a hypothetical point of apogee rather than an actual planet, I’m wondering if from an interpretive standpoint she can ever really be truly OOB….things to think about!

Lilith says she don’t need noBODY, tho!

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

That’s a good point. I checked out all 3 and its just black moon with the numbers up there. Hypothetical Lil 18 sag is conjunct bml 15 sag on the other side of my ic. With ceres and juno opposite vesta. The only candidate I’ve ever truly considered for synastry has his poor mars in there.

My garden is out of bounds.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

I feel ya, honey – my Venus (ruler) is OOB, hence the handle. That, and I was doing massive amounts of Tr. Venus/Uranus at the time I created my user name. Or perhaps it was doing me….maybe a bit of both, then.

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

Ok. Oob top this game, eros 24n contraparralel bml 24s

In a grand air trine with pluto mars and jupiter kite to aries 7th house moon. Lol.

But in terms of lilith in scorpio now with juno nearby, I’ve been digging on magdalena.
I’m a consort.

I did my time in babylon,
we’ll see where the beloved is willing to meet.

CleverUserIDMM Member
CleverUserID

Oh, lilith … mine is in scorpio, so is my mars and venus oh and neptune. been a very weird year+ … yeah deep witchy vibes and random sex/love phuquery, all with a soundtrack of Rage Against the Machine shouting “phuq you I won’t do what you tell me!!” this has been an intense journey. feeling very norma desmond at this point. dig the snake bracelet on her upper arm … oh lilith …

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/9/96/Norma_Desmond.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130318183736

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

I’m ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille :p

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

My former crush had his Moon in Scorpio. I got an invite from the place we worked at together about an event which made me silently cuss the place, than I thought of him and silently told him off – and this all happened as I JUST so happened to be listening to a song which I found out while downloading album art was in the original soundtrack taken from the film we shot a scene from. Synchronicity is just my damn lifestyle but damn, would REALLY like it to cease in regards to someone I will never be with… Read more »

CleverUserIDMM Member
CleverUserID

oh! i have Neptune to blame for that “it feels fated” thing? mine being in scorpio … um .. yeah. sigh

“Synchronicity is just my damn lifestyle but damn, would REALLY like it to cease in regards to someone I will never be with” <—–SO MUCH THIS!!!

so relating to your post. if you figure out a better option than the trying damndest to ignore tactic, let me know. it's not working so good for me here.

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Right? Doesn’t help that my Archangel and he share the same name. Nor that I am psychically attuned to him. I choose to interpret it as an indicator of my sensitivity and practice for the upcoming awesome relationship the cards have been raving about for coming onto 2 years now, lol. Talk about destiny taking the scenic route.

Neptune in Sagg in the 7th – no more Zombie por favor!!!

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Lilith in Leo in my 3rd – ready for FRESH, lusty communications 🙂

rachel
rachel

Resonating hard with this–snakes, yes–

have been sleeping outside lately, woke up this morning to a snake slithering past me–

later in the day, thinking of it, I felt the presence of a snake near me, turned around–and there she was slithering past–

I am in the Pluto in Scorpio gen–in my natal 5th–have been making strange trance art lately using found materials–

was working on a piece inspired by the sign for Mercury–had it hanging outside and a spider spun her web in the middle of it–and has been there for a couple weeks now–I’ve named her Hermes

RoseMM Member
Rose

When Lilith and Juno came together on my Pluto at 0′ Scorpio I was intrigued but nothing major occurred apart from that it’s continued my self-devlopment -independence and self-reliance. Now she’s heading for my Saturn at 13′ Scorpio – I’m Virgo sun and Leo ascendant so it’s all fourth house and I suspect I have Pluto by my IC.

RoseMM Member
Rose

My art is frequently about women – I love ancient art and symbols and have a fascination with the goddesses – this year one of my pieces was a fertility figure. I have Lilith natally in Aries. My friend introduced me to the controversial writings of the Marquis de Sade (“sexuality is power”) this summer and I’ve been reading Angela Carter’s “Sadeian Woman: An Exercise in Cultural History” which looks at his banned novel “Justine” written from a female perspective. Carter uses the novel to discuss pornography, Hollywood, marriage…-it’s a really thought provoking read and seems very fitting for this… Read more »

Savgemi
Savgemi

I’m a leo rising with Lilith in Scorpio 4th house. Is this article about me! 🙂

GeminEEMM Member
GeminEE

Meeting with Scorp friend was weirdly parallel to another Scorp friend (they both wanted to go to a restaurant that is closing down tomorrow, for good). But in the end, I just felt demoralised as he subtly put me down in everything – work, family, appearance, life choices. It happened with another friend a few weeks back but I’ve learned from this: I deserve better. Better friends, people who’ll support me instead of commenting that obviously I’m not good at what I do. I know that, but it’s not the end of the world. I can get better. – Scorp-rising… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

thats interesting, its trine my mars at the mo, (2 cancer, third hse )
and conjunct my uranus ( 3 scorp, sixth hse )
that makes sense….i think…

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

on the upside, im going to be spending sunday/monday in london…yayyyyyyy my fav place!
so i’ll be reading a new monthly scope from mystic and be in london at the same time!
treats!
so high soho!

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

need space space space from people like that. dont need the adrenaline rush!

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

mmmm well my response to narky b friend was to cut her off completely.
she apologised to me…then the next day because i didnt respond, started getting narky again!
dude-leave me alone! dont need that in my life! stop being a bully!
lillith in aries in 12th conjunct moon…

A
A

Lilith in cancer but in the 8th house. Definite scorpy vibes there. Still learning how her energy plays out as she’s square my south node interception in Aries. This Mars in Acorpio (12th house) feels like it’s activating her wild ways by digging up some fire from the depths.

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Lillith 8th house too – but in taurus so soon transiting lillith will highlight / oppose this… OK so now lillith is in 2nd..on top of my juno / ceres in scorpio 2nd… OK so some provocative change sexually – erotic overhaul…identity – immersion…lots of sex…questioning difference between love and physical intimacy…dynamic and also informative…cathartic, energy work… Studying, reflecting in post grad ideas, therapy – transformative…and healing Independence is also critical – power – sex – themes… Looking at pain, ecstasy… transiting pluto now is also conjunct my venus 5th, trine lillith 8th…trine transiting north node virgo 1st, conjunt my… Read more »

Scorpie
Scorpie

I read that as Scorp POX. Can I please divorce my sign? So over anything to with Scorp.

I thought that with Mars in my sign I’d be immune from the shit fest it’s been. And it’s like these last few days Mars has decided to give me a few more kicks in the gut.

Lilith in Scorpio – until early 2017. UGH. NOOOOOOOOOO! Not interested primordial witchy vibes.

Can’t even access my breezy Saggo moon because Saturn’s boney arse is sitting there. 🙁

When do i get a break? Jupiter in Libra in Sept?

PiMM Member
Pi

You can swap with me for a while if you like. I’m not really making much use of my pisces-ness nor Gemini rising atm. Plenty to spare lol. Probably need some scorp Core Brooding Skills in my life atm. Lol

Scorpie
Scorpie

Deal!!! I’ll just have the Gem rising thanks.
I have progressed Asc in Pisces. Don’t need any more water.

Wish I was a Saggo.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Saturn off the Sag moon is gonna feel fanfuquingtastic. I can’t wait to feel mine again too.

Scorpie
Scorpie

yes!!! 🙂 Got a long way to go though. I’m a 7º Saggo moon in the 11th house. Everything still feels raw but a lot of that has to do with Mars in Scorp.

Once Saturn moves out of Saggo it will conjunct my Cap Asc. *sigh*… After that Saturn in Aqua will see my 2nd Saturn return. Maybe by then I can finally relax…. find peace… I dunno, it’s been non-stop growth since 2008. I’m tired.

What degree and house is your moo?

Scorpie
Scorpie

*moon* LOL. See, too tired to add an “N”

ElectroMM Member
Electro

12 Sag Moon & 13 Neptune, in the 2nd house.

I’m Scorp rising and I really liked Saturn in my first. So many things changed for the better. Moon has been more difficult.

TripleLMM Member
TripleL

I have a Leonine cat named Sunkist who keeps bringing me live snakes (I’m a biologist, so I just relocate them outdoors — I live in the country).

At present, I am having my Venus return, with natal Juno sandwiched between tr Mars/Saturn. The Gem Moon is in wide orb of my natal Moon.

Lilith, you say — oh, fook yeh. I embrace my Lilith energies.

Another layer: repeated hits on the name ‘Devon’. Waitresses, grocery store clerks, may-I-introduce-you-type gigs.

NFC.

Ampersand
Ampersand

“The name Devon may mean “defender” and refer to the Celtic inhabitants who fought off Anglo Saxon invaders during the dark ages”
From the internets.
Perhaps you are the Celt and Sunkist is the Anglo Saxon snake invader

I got repeated hits on Myrtle like 4 or 5 a week recently, saw it everywhere. It’s an ancient theme of love and marriage and I had just got hitched.

TripleLMM Member
TripleL

Hey – Blessings & congratulations!

And thank you for your reply!

Ampersand
Ampersand

Hey! Thanks a bunch! This Devon thing is catching because I sold two eBay items to people from Devon yesterday (i’m in UK), and was thinking about you as I was writing out the addresses on the boxes.

Too mad.

LiliMM Member
Lili

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Hillary_Clinton

Whatever you think of her- this is Astro comment only- HC has Pluto-Lilith in 10th- Scorp Sun and Libra Rising with Virgo Venus mutually receptive with Mercury in Libra.

Public persona- Lilith on Pluto- Scorp vibe on Crack

kriblackMM Member
kriblack

Huh. My first thought reading this was, well this doesn’t apply to me. Then I read primordial witch vibe. I have Scorpio in the 3rd house and I just recently decided to own the word Witch to describe myself. I’ve also made a commitment to myself to make more space and time in my life to dedicate to my spiritual, astrological and other practices. And I’ve decided I’m done with dabbling a little bit of this and a little bit of that as hobbies and passing interests and instead am going to incorporate everything I do and care about into… Read more »

PlutoMoonMM Member
PlutoMoon

I’m with you. I have natal Lilith conjunct my SN and transiting Lilith is sextiling that and also conjunct natal Jupiter/Venus. I’m also lately going more easily with the Witch “label,” at least in my mind, and realizing I’ve always been this way, since I was a child. I’m embracing what’s true and letting go of anything else I’ve been forced or pressured into. I’m also starting to think that all women are this way, that being a Witch is a perfectly natural state for women, if they can slough off the patriarchal mold they’ve cast into. It’s very sad… Read more »

kriblackMM Member
kriblack

Agreed. This is our natural way of being and is also the natural way of men who are raised by women who are free to be the way they are. Spiritually connected to the universe and each other is the natural way of being for everyone.

KayMM Member
Kay

Lol Literally had this discussion with myself for the past 2 days. Womanhood, femininity, and witchery. Mystic’s archives for inspiration and reminders re: rituals, altars, practices…

joystarMM Member
joystar

Hiya, Im a scorpy sun/Venus/Jupiter/mercury and yea i’m feeling this! taken a sick day today because i feel like it.. Mars in Scorpio has been so epic/awful, feel like i’m really moving through it though.. last few nights i’ve had such clear dreams of people/situations that used to terrify me.. Not anymore! i literally took to my scary love zombie ex with a baseball bat lol! (im my sleep ok).. good stuff 🙂

joystarMM Member
joystar

yes to primordial witch goddess! mwahaha!

Di
Di

I always thought the running away from confrontation was my Mars in the 12 house, but what you say about her goes perfect with my Lilith conjunct Ascendant (Asc 25 Virgo, Lilith 0″ Libra, still counts as conj. right?

To the point that when the cross a line and I actually speak up and defend myself like a warrior, their first reaction is being actually surprise…ha!

By the way, I am a subscriber but cannot login… :/