The Hyper Flux On Heat

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What is this? It’s Grand Cross Astrology. Or, as I call it, the Hyper Flux. Multiple astrological energies are squaring one another in Mutable signs. So Happy Hyper-Flux.

That is, the ‘grand Mutable cross’ (or square) between the Sun, Moon, and planets in the Mutable signs of Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces.

I personally am drawing inspiration from Mercury (finally in simpatico Gemini after weeks of turgid but beneficial processing in Taurus) conjunct asteroid Sphinx. Best attitude: Ancient & Inscrutable. There is more to the Sphinx than just the riddles of legend.

But the main player in all this is Saturn square Neptune.

The opening stanza was last November. That busted delusions and lies. This is – depending on how receptive you were in late 2015 – the reward or consequence of what went down then. It is also an opportunity to lay the foundation for the next bout of this in September.  But really, Grand Cross Astrology is distinctive because the atmosphere is so crazy.

Good Question: How can this be about the building of any foundation when it feels SO skittish and nuts. This is forever being explored in various guises in the Horoscopes. 

You have to somehow be mega-real without flimsy faux perceptions while nurturing your magic. Being agile and grounded is challenging.

This also comes halfway through Pluto in Capricorn – an interesting point that I thought about when reading this in Salon today.

Do you think we are in a revolutionary era now? Or is it more something on the horizon?

It’s with us already, but with this caveat: it is what Gramsci calls interregnum, this period where the ideas that buttress the old ruling elite no longer hold sway, but we haven’t articulated something to take its place.

That’s what that essay I quote by Alexander Berkman, “The Invisible Revolution,” talks about. He likens it to a pot that’s beginning to boil. So it’s already taking place, although it’s subterranean. And the facade of power — both the physical facade of power and the ideological facade of power — appears to remain intact. But it has less and less credibility.

Uranus in Taurus from 2018/2019, supports Pluto in Capricorn as they are both Earth signs. So the “something” to take the place of the decaying old system will innovate with that, I believe.

And so the Saturn-Neptune square – the Existential, the Hyper-Flux, all THIS – is about us streamlining for a new era and shedding old era shit at warp speed. The old normal has no currency in the new normal.

So, how are you all going in all this and thoughts in general?

David Mack

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fishgirlMM Member
fishgirl

Wow, reading these comments has been really helpful, I don’t feel so alone. Things since November have been really torrid. I think November was when i had my last catchup with an old friend and she emotionally-tortured me until I cried (woke the next day and decided it was probably three years overdue that i stop seeing her), job was full of insidious bullying but yet MONEY, kept me there, I thought i had a way out and found out this last week two of my $$ options have completely fallen through, both felt so ‘meant’ in a Neptunian-dream-come-true-way, a… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

i know i was all sunshine and flowers elsewhere but i really get this multi pressure point feeling you’re talking about here. i’ve been trying to work on mindset a bit more fwiw.

quintileMM Member
quintile

Its all happening here as this square is RIGHT ON my natal Asc in Pisces at 11 degrees (transiting Neptune is at 12 degrees) square my MC at 9 degrees Saggo (transitioning saturn is 12 degrees Saggo). I suspect the only saving grace is that natally my neptune and saturn are sextile, so I’ve been working them for years (more or less successfully Ha!) and my MM Pluto Candle which I adore. Its non-stop slog at the moment and trying trying trying to stay as sober and straight as a die! Not sure how I coped in November, I suspect… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

God I am feeling this!

I don’t do delusions any more, and BOYO BOY I am saturn’s child these days! Even bought a watch (!!!).

Gotta find that balance between organisation and creativity….it’s there.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

I am hyperfluxed to the max but as Elton John once sang, ‘I’m still standing’ albeit my yeah yeah yeah’s not quite having the same happy up vibe. I have Sun/Mercury opposition Mars natally, with Neptune pretty much swinging like some seventies key party between them. It’s my Mars though that has really been copping it. It’s in my 6th house and work and health issues have been front, right and centre. I’ve had issues with bullying and misogyny with millennial male students in my workplace and my cervix has a number of issues. With the latter I found western… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I see the same scheissenfest going on at HS. Kids, both gsnders, think that defiance is the norm. Entitled is right. “But we pay your wage!”. To which l say, “You’ll get good value by turning around to your timber or metal working it as per my example”. Or, “There will never be $15 per hour for that special type of stupidity”. For kids who bully they get my special: “A Short History of the World” Featuring Hannibal, Bodicea, Cortez, Teddy R and Chappelli. “Sir, How long have l got?”. “The tem of your natural life” Having a Virgo Mars… Read more »

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Thanks for that, I have Neptune and Mars trine my Aries midheaven, and tend towards the non-shrinking violet sort. What I am noticing is how much it is wearing me down. I’ve always loved my teaching and for the first time ever, I find myself wanting to leave. It’s hard so much pressure is on us to deliver it’s actually impossible to keep up. I will do my best to take nuthn from them but I am unbelievably tired. That’s my hyper-flux in a nutshell. I have a chart full of mutable signs––this vibe has been intense.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Well being mutable is like a Peugeot. Long travel suspension to all the bumps and not being thrown off course. Sounds like new bushes and struts are needed.

Nep Mars at the MC; nice work. Mars rules my empty 10th but at aneretic degree, opp my Nep.

Being a Fixed / Cardinal blend, l gotta pick tighter lines thru rough corners, more like a Porsche. I prob need more pitstops than you. But kids have to get out my way. But l also have Kombi full of dbl Kat empathy.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Ha! Always had Peugeots growing up and have had two as an adult. My dad always said that driving one was like travelling in your lounge chair. Neat.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Maybe l should do a car/bike brand for each sign, element & mode.

Leo-Scorp GrrrlMM Member
Leo-Scorp Grrrl

Wow, the monthly and weeklies have been so on. I did not get June when posted. But Leo with mid-month shift totally occurred. I am so fire earth and fixed I could not have fathomed. But here came last week with me one day “knowing” what I am done with and will no longer tolerate. After major stress and freak out, I woke up one morning just so over it. I thought I was backing me before but now see how current scenario makes that truly impossible. I must change more that I realized. Here comes another Phoenix moment in… Read more »

redsonya
redsonya

My life has been non stop tragic death, drama, pain and depression for 8 years while Neptune squared my everything and I went through my Pluto square Pluto. Last November, I was on a cruise ship with my daughter for the first Saturn Neptune square and it was the first inkling of healing myself. Today, I feel GREAT. Booting out shit people that were drawn to me during that bad time, totally new regime with family, setting boundaries, and feeling great just being on my own with my daughter. Started lifting weights and running, work is amazing, and I am… Read more »

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

Currently life is like an episode of supernanny. Day 1. Imposing boundaries. The kids aren’t taking it well. There’s tantrums. There’s my partners guilt over being responsible for letting it get to this point and the continual backing off and placating the beasts instead of backing me and saying goodbye to the chaos.

How do you get rid of baggage when your partner keeps taking it out of the bin and stashing it in the shed?

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Stash your partner in the shed?

Joking.

Or am I?

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

Hahaha…if only it were that easy;-)

Jokerman
Jokerman

Aint no way to run a cricket team.

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

I don’t remember what was happening in Nov, but I know that yesterday I was ready to taser a bitch. I didn’t tho– per the weekend Scorp scopes, I tucked my tail away… And it hurt, yo, like denying myself any other type of autonomic response, like the impulse to breathe or eat. But there I went to sleep last night, flame-thrower impotent and bridges erect… Retro Mars says this is good strategy, but my natal chart demands a recount. Where does good strategy end & crippling myself with 2nd guessing begin? Saturn square Neptune: I’m trusting I’ll know that… Read more »

skarabMM Member
skarab

Hearing you re the restraining orders – not easy in these times. (Uranus zapping my angles, the Fiery Way and every freaking luminary, rock & hypothetical point in my chart as i type). So anyway, I imagined that for a Scorp, this righteous restrainment could feel a bit like a self-flagellating Opus Dei fanatic would feel after a good session with a cat-o-nine-tails? No? Well only 12 more days to go sweet Ankh.xx

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Haha that is *exactly* what it feels like.

12 days… I could split my physical house into 12 areas that coincide with each of my natal houses, & then laser focus on tidying/de-cluttering each house per day… so that in 12 days from now i emerge with totally cleared energy in every area, astro-wise & materially… I’m having major purge urges with this Pluto-North Node biz… major.

What about you? What are you doing with all that Uranus striking?? I know you’re not smiting thine enemies with Mars rx. Or are you?

Are we?

xx sweet skarab 😉

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Oooo 12 day-12 house purge?! Count me in!

Time to streamline this mutha!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

Fab! Got to make it magical: omni-tasking, yo!

I started today with the home office: 6th house. This one will run into tomorrow tho, cuz I’m making over my filing system.

Let’s Do This!

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

count me in – what a great idea!
I forgot about the “no pre-emptive retaliation until Mars direct” though and inadvertently reignited a very old and volatile dispute with my father…the only good I can see happening is that this time he may actually act on his threats to disown me and I will never ever have to interact with his malignant, evil old arse again… maybe some house clearing can speed that up!

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Won’t!

And for the extra dose of magic, I’ve done a tarot reading…what needs purged/decluttered/let go of during these last days of Mars retro?…each card pointing me in the direction of something to purge…magical omni-tasking!

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Friggin’ autocorrect!
Was meant to say ‘WOOT!’ not won’t…

Taunting me and my lack of follow thru…???

PiMM Member
Pi

Ohh maybe that is it. Uranus one degree off my south node. Also meaning: opposing my Libra north node 4 th house. And everyone knows what I think of the 4th house. Lol, maybe. “Doing my 4th house” in this case meaning some kind of arson exercise followed by a jaunt to the international departure lounge for a flight to somewhere Very Far Away From Here

skarabMM Member
skarab

<3 ! (chiron/aqua 4th H here, :/)

(pssst – i know this quiet sunny out of the way joint …)

skarabMM Member
skarab

I think your daily laser focus purge idea sounds fab! I’m gonna start with the 12th & work backwards. As for Uranus – it’s a buzz – a trippy high – (highly recommend). And no, i’m heeding the retro Mars protocol & not zapping anyone. I try to avoid people, walk around with dark shades, dodging & trying to be invisible. What is really weird, is that people are hunting me down & telling me their secrets – almost compulsively – friends, family, clients, enemies, strangers. Like I’m a fuqing confessor. They don’t even want advice – which is just… Read more »

mintmocha
mintmocha

In November I was at the peak of my psychotic break and then mid Nov I was admitted into the mental hospital. I stayed there until December. I was struggling with reality as transiting Neptune was opposite my Moon forever at 8 degrees.. Then transiting Saturn came and squared off the opposition and that got me institutionalized. Nowadays I’m just getting rid of all the new “beliefs” that I picked up during that transit. Throwing away my Tarot cards, getting rid of occult books, crystals, etc. I realized that I was relying too much on external forces that I became… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Mintmocha that is brave of you to share about here I have just started a site where I’m hoping the neurobiologically diverse will comment and share With MM’s permission (I asked her) I’m inviting you to join me as its been live a few days now but officially still “hidden”. I’m trying to protect my baby for the first three months so not doing any social media growth hacking crap just selectively inviting atm thatcrazybitch.club It’s a safe anon space to share, bitch, moan, help etc Staying informed is crucial as is feeling part of a community. We’ve never spoken… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

did you know that 90% of all Pulitzer Prize winners have been bipolar one?

mintmocha
mintmocha

Sure, I’d be open to it :). I’m not a very big commenter though but I’ll definitely check it out.

Tbh I still think my first episode psychosis was a result of TNeptune opposite Moon. Still waiting for my official diagnosis though.

And I’m not surprised about that fact. A lot of creative/extremely smart people are off-kilter.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Hey that’s cool, I had the impulse to invite you based on what you said having experienced a psychotic break. I’m kind of crushing on those who are wired to be weird right now and learning so much, feeling a sense of community etc (as well as wanting to find one for my own selfish reasons obvs) Off kilter? Yes indeed. As an idea its been around forever. When I try to write about it I vacillate between finding it an annoying cliche and a comforting urban science myth. Although in my recent research I’ve discovered that neurobiologically there are… Read more »

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

This has been a really tough couple of months. My Saturn return was exact two days ago on its second pass (12 degrees of Sag) and man, am I ever in the thick of it. Work, body, family, home, nothing feels stable or nourishing. It just all feels Saturn-hard. And the world feels hard too — I’m a news junkie and I can’t even stand to read that sh*t anymore.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Is your NN 3rd house?
I got 2nd Sat Rt in 20°

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

North Node in Scorpio in the 6th, Saturn return in the 7th. Lonely times. I have Venus at 21 Sag, so when Saturn moves off natal Saturn that’s what’s next.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Saturn in the 7th; ugh. After the Rt. Patience amplified; big ask.
I have had the wondrous joy of Pluto in the 7th razing done (I hope) raising now.

So where does your news junkie comes from?

VenusRulesMM Member
VenusRules

Hmmm, Mercury conjunct NN in Scorpio – or 9th house moon in Cap square Mars – or nutty father who had me reading the NY Times at age 4 and had three newspapers delivered every day and said “everything you don’t know leaves you at the mercy of those who do” ?

skarabMM Member
skarab

I get the whole Hyper Flux thing as well as the Neptune Sq Cap thing & that people are wise to the facade of the power structure. But “….decaying old system”? – I can’t see the power elite & system as decaying, sorry. If anything it has been consolidating its power & blatantly eroding any illusionary vestiges of democracy that were left. The revolutionary vibes of the Pluto/Uranus square were lost on us – ok, there were 5 minutes of righteous indignation at the biggest bank heist (in reverse) of modern times – then back to more debt & infotainment.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’m scared of xenophobia, it is such a foreign concept to me.

MethinkyMM Member
Methinky

Snorkle!!

AnkhRising8.0MM Member
AnkhRising8.0

That’s how I feel it living in the US. There’s so much fuqery happening with no sign of it slowing down. Haven’t even reached the zenith of this thing yet. I’ll tell you what, skarab: I don’t feel good at all about where this train is headed.

Redlipstick VirgoMM Member
Redlipstick Virgo

Last November I started my new job that I love! Now I get to apply for it permanently and for more money.

I was going to a solstice bonfire but I have been in weird pain and I just found out from home busting go I have shingles – in lots of pain! Any natural remedies for shingles welcomed?

Redlipstick VirgoMM Member
Redlipstick Virgo

… ” that was home visiting GP” weird autocorrect

davidlMM Member
davidl

Lysine I think. But with shingles the sooner you start with an anti viral the better. Acyclovir stat !

Redlipstick VirgoMM Member
Redlipstick Virgo

Thank you David – yes I am on the antivirals now 🙂

annica
annica

Once you are done with shingles, you can see an acupuncturist to make sure you don’t get relapses. It usually requires both needles and herbs to work.

Redlipstick VirgoMM Member
Redlipstick Virgo

Thank you Annica – I have always got great results from accupuncture and I didn’t think of that – will book in a visit this week even with the shingles and will do a follow up too

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Have a look at Medical Medium on FB?there are 200 types of shingles or something…

moongoatMM Member
moongoat

I am trying to sleep n the midst of packing boxes, suitcases, and storage. On Tues I’m moving from the city to a place by the sea that i have always wanted to live in. But only six weeks ago i was thinking how much i liked my current livung situationt despite work insecuriity. Then the landlord rang to say she was selling the apartment. I thought :eff it i’ll take the plunge and go live down the coast. Then it all fell into place: work, car, house, even dog in ways that just aint natural for my life Its… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

its tough…doing sobriety and yoga and trying to ride it…ooh!

Jokerman
Jokerman

You should try yoga being drunk.
Talk about Downward Facing Slog

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Fortunately I’m getting good timing with this stuff. In November, I had a few days off and was completely exhausted. I laid on the couch doing tarot and emailing a new friend who has been instrumental in my healing and growth. Like a friendship present from the cosmos pre-Jupes in my 11th house, which he just entered. Now I’m on a two month break from work and completely annihilated with exhaustion. I’m going to pick up pieces and rebuild. Time and space are essential, and thank fuq I’ve got it right now. I have some things set up and others… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

your break is longer than our summer break

ElectroMM Member
Electro

How much time do you get?

Jokerman
Jokerman

5 weeks plus the 3 days of xmas, boxing day & new years. plus fortnights for autumn/fall, winter & spring.

Jokerman
Jokerman

5 weeks plus 3 public holidays (xmas/boxing/newyears days)
plus 2 weeks for autumn, winter & spring

Jokerman
Jokerman

duh

ElectroMM Member
Electro

We get one week for seasonal breaks. Two would be nice.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Same in the end. But xmas is a short break. How weird is that? What state are you?

electro
electro

PA

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve gotta friend in Pennsylvannia. Haha

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Yup.
x

PorkchopMM Member
Porkchop

I am not really feeling the Hyper Flux, and most of my chart is mutable… Things feel like BAU in my life. Not complaining as that’s better than a sh$tstorm! 🙂

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Ha, this Sphinx was just watching a Graham Hancock talk on the Sphinx! You know, the idea how the Sphinx is the Leo constellation like the pyramids are the Orion constellation. https://grahamhancock.com/nightingalee3/ It’s a bit complex, but I think he posits that the reason for the interest in Orion, Sirius and the Pleiades is because we are all on a spiralling trajectory through space together, having been birthed from the same nebula. He talks about the relationship to the galactic centre too. Stellar stuff. As to the rest, I think if I meditate, eat right, do some yoga and sleep… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Hope your headache has gone. You do not suck, you are awesome Sphinx!
Interesting idea re Orion, Sirius and the Pleiades.tho xx

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Thx babe!! It took another DAY to recover from.. 😉

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Yeah,I’m not surprised Sphinx. I think our systems are too sensitive for that stuff. I’m only fully comprehending it now too. I’ve been reluctant to be rigid about alcohol, because, like you, I am such a fluid, and therefore fun, easy-going person by nature that it seems against my inner nature to put out such a big NO. Especially when most people become more pleasant and relaxed on imbibing it and it DOES feel great AT THE TIME. I just can’t deal with feeling like hammered shit the next day (or two) as my brain/ body simply cannot metabolise it… Read more »

SomnambulistaMM Member
Somnambulista

in retrospect, November and December of last year seemed like a car backing up to give itself more room to accelerate…over a cliff in 2016. My mother died, somewhat unexpectedly at the beginning of April, in a process that involved failed communication on others’ parts and hand wringing decision making on mine. My brother and his wife flying in from France to help for a few days broke the surface tension and then left a black hole for my loneliness and lack of connection to whoosh through. Since then, my anguish over my conflicted relationship with my mom has left… Read more »

Annica
Annica

Omg i am sorry about your mom,. 🙁

And feel free to share about your autoimmune diet thingy. I had a similar thing happen to me 2014 where i almost died. And the diet i was on to save me made me miserable. Deprived of joy was a understatement! Was more like exiled to a place where i would never feel the warm rays of the sun on cold skin ever. But don’t worry, it does get better!

Centaurus
Centaurus

An oasis in a shizzfest. Ducking in to refuel on some sanity at the Mystic station before heading back onto the hyper flux highway. Flame retardant suit on as burn up on landing is anticipated 😀

seawitchmermaidMM Member
seawitchmermaid

Flux is right. I feel very in between, very “in” something, just trying to keep my bearings to steer me forth. (Which the horoscopes and texts help immensely with, lighthouses of sorts). Still actively shedding old crap, certain mental shifts I’m right in the middle of as well so the old-era shit still has a loud voice but the freshness is there too. Just trying to be as present and mindful and intentional in my actions as I can be. Like I said, hyper flux is very fitting…

Laura
Laura

Have been on a self-imposed solo holiday/exile since the 8th of May which doesn’t end until July and have been doing all the psy-dredge, compulsion-busting, foundation-setting that has been suggested. And I have been coming across helpful materials (Tara Brach being a standout) as I go. Fantastically relevant playing cards also continue to stop me in the street. Daily tarot readings have been helping too. Much like icontainmultitudes I can’t sense what’s coming – I’m Pisces Asc, Libra Sun and Cap Moon – but I’m finding that things seem to work out the more I ‘let go and let god’,… Read more »

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Tara Brach…now there is an author I’ve been meaning to explore for ages! Thank you for pointing me in her direction.

I’m so glad it’s not just me feeling this lost. Knowing it’s part of the collective shift gives me hope…dawn is just about to crack the horizon line and then everything will be illuminated ?

I’m taking your advice to heart…let go and let god(dess).

See you at dawn, Laura!

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Oops ‘?’ was meant to be smiley face…

Laura
Laura

She has an excellent podcast of talks too, if you want to dip your toe in there first 🙂

See you in the sunshine!

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Woke up to fuqery but I am above it. I am happily flowing. So that’s that. Kinda emotional in this Taurus/Kataka home, though. I messed up with a CD last night but I also see even if I didn’t I wouldn’t be placed by her anyway. I always KNEW where I fit in the industry but now it’s CEMENTED. I do have to do a few tweaks but yeah, I’m just staying vigilant, hardworking and completely backed up with radical trust. The synchronicity is off the heezy and all is well. I have to admit, I am OBSESSED with blue… Read more »

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

And the fucking LZ crush turned up in my dreams last night to boot. Part one of my dream was me living in a home that was like the Overlook with a mad killer trying to get into the home. The second part was him, dating an actor despite getting an ex girl pregnant? I have never dreamed about someone more in my LIFE and I had not the past month where I had been at least every 10 days for 9 months. I know we’re not right for a long-term thing but every time he turns up in my… Read more »

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

finding myself less and less resonant with more and more previously dear people.. 🙁 I identify pretty strongly with my Taurus ascendant and I defo have a hard time giving up/giving up on peeps if they have made a space in my heart/life. At the moment so many seem to be intent on developing mindsets or behaviours that can be remedied only via eviction, (racist attitudes/extremism on both left and right ends of the spectrum/pure bloody minded stupidity) – then I wonder if it’s just me who’s being more intolerant… :-/ I usually thrive on change (multi-Sagg) but I’m really… Read more »

AstroGeekMM Member
AstroGeek

Indeed. The flushing out of dear friends is one of the hardest aspects of this hyper-flux to cope with.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Multi Sagg with Toro asc as well and I’m not thriving in the ‘change’ as is my usual MO and perhaps it’s all just got too mutable really, not much is staying still for long enough to ground it. Shifting sand dunes (or castles) in a desert wind storm. Having said that it’s not awful, just can’t get traction on some things. My Toro is fed up with not releasing that which needs to be released, stuck about being stuck or something. I think that should ease now that the last of ’em (Mercury) has moved along to Gemini. Really..… Read more »

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

Thanks Centaurus, you are right :-). Heeding Mystic’s advice to analyse the energy I have brought to these relationships made me realise that they only survived because I was energetically “fuzzy” so there was nothing to bump up against… With all the new boundaries installed by Saturn first stomping all over my Libra stellium and now the Saggo one, well, there’s not much of the “easy going” (energetically vacant) old me left – so friction is inevitable as things take more solid shape… still not enjoying the process but it makes sense now 🙂 ( kinda makes you wonder how… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

The last degree of a sign.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Yes, last degree and as such is leaving one energy and moving into another so is said to be critical in some cases. What’s interesting in this case is that the beginning and the end of the sign is spotlighted under the full moon and there’s Saturn in the middle…

It’s mutable energy alright so even with great boundaries, and I’m pretty good there, it’s been tough to maintain them or even get a feel for their edges.

😀

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

hmmm, interesting…will ponder what specifically these full moons have been spotlighting, it’s 8th house for me so I guess it will be stand by for more uncomfortable revelations 🙂 …if it’s at the last degree of sagg that means it will be exactly conjunct my previous love interest’s natal Neptune. And given where he’s at at the moment, that could prove very interesting (I’m not LZing here – it’s just been a full scale soap opera and I am still avidly watching things unfold lol)

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

8th for me too 😀

I’m betting on less discomfort and more magic and wisdom imbued insights.

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

I’m not a sag but you’re hitting on a few similarities with my experience since November. And it’s true, the fuzziness, the lack of something to grate into. Boundaries have created a sudden standoff with family in law who previously threw passive aggressive remarks or behaviours at my partner knowing he would bow to them. He is a sweet cancer who wears a tonne of guilt for things he’s not even responsible for. Now I’m pushing back. It isn’t going down well. This week it has been in its last throws. Today. Well. It was a bit of teenage worthy… Read more »

flowerchild
flowerchild

I’m experiencing the same, and have been since beginning of the year or so… I feel like I’ve just about wiped the slate clean, completely, like, let go of almost all ‘friends’ from my life…..and it’s scary, because feeling alone now, to start anew, but still alone, but definitely couldn’t ‘stay’ in some of these friendships. These relationships just very clearly have played themselves out…..

CleverUserIDMM Member
CleverUserID

ok i think i may be starting to understand. just about everything i knew has fallen away since november. i stopped drinking, lost a crap ton of friends over that. kicked my spouse out after years of loveless cohabbing, sit here in a shocked state of solitude i have never known before trying to understand how i am going to continue living in house on paper i can’t pay for. this house is the last vestige of my old life and i have been clinging out of fear. all traditional methods of resolution have failed, and i think THIS in… Read more »

supakaliMM Member
supakali

oh yeh, that Saturn square to Neptune has a real kick :/

Corrina
Corrina

I have decided to completely change my life. Am selling off all my “baggage”, paying off as much debt as I can and rebooting. November 2015 WAS when I realised the path I was on was not mine. Bogged down by over giving in all facets of my life. Being a Cancerian and loving security, it’s actually creepy and aggravating to have such a strong Uranian focus to my chart … however with an Aqua Mars/MC I’ve decided to just learn to roll with it. And put my trust in … nebulousness. I’ve realised I have to focus on art.… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I got Uran 1H, Cj Merc & a Bucket Handle Aqua Moon.
I just spin the ‘teledex’ of mind and go with what happens.

Corrina
Corrina

I’ve just never been able to get a grasp of my Cancerian stuff aligned with so much Aqua/Uranus.

I’m actually pretty angry right now. Despite what I wrote above I feel backed into a corner.

Crab duels it out with Aqua … who will win??!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Compartmentalise. I am Aqua Moon to my friends (keep at a distance but l can “raconteur’ a room) but 7/8th cusp to my partner. My Sun and Uran in 1H are much harder to separate; even tho they are 18° apart. I have always been the craziest person in any group l’ve been in. Teachers at this school remarked to me that there is always some new strange take l have for them. “Storm at Sea” is what you are feeling; l imagine. Who will win you ask. Find / juggle avenues for both. What house, what sign is your… Read more »

Corrina
Corrina

Hmm interesting … Sagg moon is 7th house and I have Sun square Uranus. Basically normal never works for me … not for long anyway. Yeah I do my Cancer shizz … cleaning, cooking, lovely home. But then I get stifled and wanna like … break shit and do something wildly different. I have no earth in my personal planets you see. 😉 I basically find it hard to balance my security needs (Cancer), with my needs for self expression and self actualisation (Aqua/Sag). Mikey never did much for me you know … ok Never Tear Us Apart is one… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

I have Mars Venus cj in Virgo which helps with my lotsa mud make up. Having your Moon in 7th but carefree Sagg plus Uran stuff makes you more Yang, no?
Having ya Moon in the 7th, as a Cancer, is a definite trick. I dont think you can dishonour your Moon in the 7th. Not that l think you are but said to encourage that emotional need the moon has there. My lived experience anyway

Corrina
Corrina

Indeed. Ignore emotional needs at my peril … but balancing them with all other quincunxe crap .. yikes.

PiMM Member
Pi

Prowln Fwiw I know someone who is cancer rising , Sun moon mars tight conjunct in Aquarius in 8 th house plus mercury.
She is a gynae surgeon. Incredibly dedicated to women’s health and reproductive rights including right to information. Imho this is a really amazing manifestation of her astro.

Corrina
Corrina

Having the Aqua elements has always given me the aptitude for standing back and analysing a situation/problem based on objectivity rather than sentiment.

I’m not saying the combo can’t work. But sometimes they work against each other.

But thanks for the input! 🙂

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Yes!!! Create, artiste! <3 <3 <3

Corrina
Corrina

It’s the plan. But there’s awful backstories to why I staunchly abandoned art.

Now I’ll have to face them. 🙁

davidlMM Member
davidl

I got slapped in kindy for colouring in, over the lines. 🙁
My hand still shakes when I hold a crayon .. but enough about me and the destruction of my innocence. I mean , who knows how far I could have gone 😉

Corrina
Corrina

~smiles~ cracker of a song

I’ve never had any negative feedback about my creative work. In fact it’s always been positive, although I’ve never understood what other people see in it to be honest?

No my backstories speak more about inherited legacies … i.e. dad was the artist in the family and also horribly abusive. Owning my creativity feels like apologising for his behaviour.

Dunno if that makes sense … it’s not really a conscious thing.

davidlMM Member
davidl
Jokerman
Jokerman

November was big lesson for me in relationships. I did not understand what MM was banging on about when she sent me stuff. I did not know what she meant when shed I would chase the wrong women. The concept to me was pretty egalitarian; if someone was available, ‘girl next door’ and looking…ask. How bloody wrong can ya be?. But November is started..just started to sink in….gelling for me. I realise now especially in light of the person who has now appeared on the scene. She is a Pisces (Stellium) and Scorp Asc (Cj her Nep & midpoint my… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

“shed I would” = “she’d say I would”

Annica
Annica

I had very similiar things happen along the lines of romance. My lesson? Idk. I guess even when you spend a year of (non-sexual intimacy), authenticity, and friendship with an Aries and they even tell you that they love you, that when you get ghosted you should just move on. Today is the anniversary of him admitting his love for me and you know what I did a couple of nights ago? I found someone else who (at least for now) seems to have affection for me. I actually met gem with scorp moon late nov-early dec but dismissed him… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Dylan 24th May; an early Gem with a Mutable GC. Ghosting is a shit, indefensible. Who was the schmuck who thought that one up? I hate fake being a Plutocrat. Reinforced with Pluto traversing my 7th.

Past experiences give you references but ‘now’ is the best time.

I too am grateful to the Universe.

annica
annica

Any advice PF for people who might love people who are hardcore Bob Dylan fans? Cos this is new territory for me. This guy has hardcore stories of getting to meet Bob and all.

Jokerman
Jokerman

His cousin lives in Murwillumbah. I met her last year in chasing the Toro (Nov ’15 crashing). 1- Call Dylan ‘his Bobess’ in passing reference. 2- Look up lines from his songs and use them saliently. 3- Make the observation that his voice is the best, that his songwriting is the 4th best thing he does. (Rythym imbued songs and blues guitar style are 2 &3) 4- Make the observation that only Shakespeare and Dylan articulate the human condition in such large numbers. 5- “Dylan can’t sing like Picasso can’t paint” 6- All roads, in modern music, lead back to… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Ha
Brilliant.

marsbar
marsbar

I love this!

Pegasus
Pegasus

Play ‘ I Want You’…..it’s works!!

annica
annica

I will keep that in mind!

PiMM Member
Pi

Surprising moment of peace and awesome today. I think I actually went into some alpha state and wrote the draft of a screenplay for an experimental film. A couple of little things linked and clicked during some reading, One of those daydream floods of images and ideas. Learning not to get too far ahead of myself, but trying to really get stuck in to see later in year bear fruit.

davidlMM Member
davidl

I’d love to see the interpretive dance once you’re done. You are doing one right ? 🙂

PiMM Member
Pi

Perhaps you could ask the question of your daughter. Since she seems to be the one into contemporary dance.

PiMM Member
Pi

: P

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Honestly thus gives me so much anxiety I hardly know where to begin.

Not because I don’t love change (Gemini, yo) but because I honestly cannot see where I am going for once.

Normally I have an inkling, or an intuitive nudge, that things are working up to something good (Virgo rising, Pisces moon…super mutable)

This time I got nothing. Flying blind here. And finding it hard to let go and let goddess…

flowerchild
flowerchild

I feel similarly. I feel a lot of unease because I can’t see ahead at all, though I am also feeling this ‘out with the old, in with the new’ feeling and it feels like big change. ‘…this period where the ideas that buttress the old ruling elite no longer hold sway, but we haven’t articulated something to take its place.’ …..THIS. Lots of good things, mostly little good things, are happening and coming together, and I’m sort of piecing those together, and remembering to notice and acknowledge them with gratitude, to give me a sense of faith, hope, stability….… Read more »

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Ah a problem shared and all that… Thank you for letting me know it’s not just me! The flux is hardcore. I feel like potential plans I try to lay down change or get disrupted day-to-day. There is no telling the reality I could wake up to tomorrow 🙂 Saturn square moon is so curious a transit. I have Neptune right on my moon too. I feel that see-saw between real life + dream life swinging wildly, each battling for the higher ground. My sleep strangely has been good recently and I’ve not felt as sluggish on waking as I… Read more »

emgMM Member
emg

I feel this way too. I know something is coming but haven’t a clue what or how and I’m merely waiting…waiting…

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Join us for a pint, emg… we’re all waiting at the cosmic bar together, lol!

flowerchild
flowerchild

I realize maybe the Mars retro is part of this, too. Can’t get anything done, limbo land, can’t see the road ahead…

Anyway, that’s interesting your dreams have revved up with Neptune retro….that makes sense, especially transiting on your Moon. I have the same thing, as I’m Pisces Moon too..
My dreams have been either irretrievable, no memory of them, total blackout, or very vivid. I do have the experience often of waking up disoriented, so maybe I astral travel during sleep….

Let’s hope things come clearer for all of us soon! : )

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