Ask Mystic: Do Virgos Hate Pisceans Right Now?

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Ultraman

Dear Mystic,

I’m wondering if Virgos have been having issues with Pisceans since the south node went into Pisces and Neptune has been there a while.

Does the mysterious Neptune (no structure! *such* a headache) and slightly odd, sticky sensation of the south node make Pisces generally repugnant to Virgos right now? Is our sun carrying all the signifiers that Saturn-squared, Jupiter-high Virgos can’t even? Are we a cipher for all the things that trouble Virgos On The Up?

What lessons are here? Are we fish to care? It hurts to be swept aside, like the dingy but character-filled shops of the Old Town that are slowly overshadowed by shiny plate glass and architect-designed trend-pods.

Yours curiously.

Fishcakes XO

Dear Fishcakes,

I don’t know if we can blame the South Node in Pisces for this. Although, that has been since October 2015 and it continues till early 2017 so if this IS the culprit for your alienation from some Virgo, you will need to be more Zen about it.

And even though i am not quite buying your theory, it’s true that nearly every Pisces I know has Virgo issues at the moment. HOWEVER, the time frame of South Node in Pisces is ALSO the Saturn-Neptune square.

Just to make it more confusing, Pisceans are getting insanely organized – a classic trait of Virgo – whilst there are Virgos out there in Vague City, murmuring inaudibly about whatever.

So i am throwing this open to the people to comment. Have any of you noticed Pisces-Virgo alienation in the last eight or so months and would you blame Jupiter in Virgo + the South Node in Pisces. The South Node, to remind you, is a vortex of one’s past. So Pisceans have – like it or not – had all manner of material float up from before.

That came to a peak in March, with Chiron on the South Node. That was when i renamed the South Node to South Swamp.Β  It felt apt. So maybe subconsciously, Virgos are all trying to expand and raise their consciousness with the Jupiter vibe and they feel that somehow Pisces is quick sandy?

Thoughts?

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redjava
redjava

Pisces- on behalf of my fellow Virgos…..we love ya. Then again…I have NN in Pisces, so I could be biased. ?

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Working subtitle: “And Do Pisceans Care?”

Nope.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Why are all my comments stuck in moderation? This site is way less fun than it used to be.

sphinx
sphinx

How immoderate!

davidl
davidl

Ha x a Virgo criticizing a pisceans blog !

Scorbra the sneak.
Scorbra the sneak.

I had no idea this was happening… but now Ima keep my phone handy, in case I witness any conflict… And possibly record it for dialogue use in future plays or short stories. Thanks guys!
And commiserations: drama, awesome to watch, horrorbee to be involved in. πŸ™

kitsune
kitsune

I’m a Virgo rising (jupiter is hovering fairly close to my ascendant right now) and am dealing with a pretty soul crushing end of a very intense 2 month relationship with a Pisces sun who pretty much spot on conjuncts my descendant, which is also hovering around Neptune at the moment. We went from the everything to the nothing in the span of one night and him having a panic attack over having feelings for his ex who treated him like total garbage. Irritated I am dealing with his disillusionment yet still, I try to see it as neppy on… Read more »

kitsune
kitsune

Oh, and also my NN is in Pisces in the 7th as well, and my Mars, and currently dealing with Saturn opposite my Venus so this is really one hell of a joy ride right now.

I suppose I couldn’t expect any relationship stuff to work out even in the best of scenarios.

moonstark
moonstark

Intriguing. I also think chiron in pisces is part of the ish cuz no sun sign wants to get opposed by chiron. I’ve been observing the ins & outs of my ex-virgo who’s been dating a pisces acquaintance of mine. Their suns are in exact opposition (16deg pis/virgo) and getting smacked by saturn. I’m a pisces rising also at 16deg + i have chiron in gem at 16deg so it’s a verrrryyy interesting dynamic to be on the periphery of (whilst dealing with my own epic shiz). I really want my pisces pal to ex our tragic virgo b/c he’s… Read more »

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Yes.

Actually, it seems Pisces wants Virgo to be/react-as something other than what Virgo really is – which ain’t going to happen with Jupiter and North Node and all that going on. I don’t know what star to blame that on – Saturn-Neptune delusion busting maybe? Loads of projection and whatnot.

Perhaps Virgo and Pisces can be friends again once Pisces accepts reality? Not holding my breath waiting for that to ever happen, lol.

Pi
Pi

Could be a thing.

Middle platform
Middle platform

…once Virgo sees past its very limited judgmental TAKE on the world.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

^ lol – see!

seafaun
seafaun

yeah boom *mic drop*

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

You demonstrate my point. Maybe try a Scorpio.

supakali
supakali

I don’t advise it πŸ˜‰

cinz
cinz

I am virgo sun ,pisces rising and have had some majorly rotten karmic bullshit at the hands of scorpios since august 2014. I sent the last one packing 4 weeks ago and can honestly say after taking psychopathic rhetoric from multiple scorpios, I can do little more than sit numb and grateful for no unessesary human interactions. Have always had the polarity battles between my pisces and virgo however this seems to have dissapeared for now. My MC is scorpio in the 8th, if this is a cycle? When will it end? Or has it ended? I am not up… Read more »

moonstark
moonstark

Hmm hard to say. could transiting pluto be activating a cardinal planet in your chart? Your MC would be the cusp of your 10th (either sag or late scorp), libra on the 8th.

~a fellow pisces rising

cinz
cinz

That could make sense as cancer/ mars and if i was any further inward right now i would be inside out…… the polarity of virgo/pisces is for the most part loads of fun, throw in kamikaze mercury in virgo and gemini moon for good measure and life is never dull….. the thinker the doer the dreamer all wrapped up in one tight little cancerian ball with venus/leo being stood down as boss….. plotting a ressurection i might add! Leo doesnt stay down for long….. lol

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie

Hmmm.. I had been thinking about the Pisces dude I met in 2014. Such a roller coaster ride with him but I will admit I am to blame. But he showed up last year I think in October, then again on New Years, then again in February. I haven’t heard from him again since I asked him an innocent question and he was mad. He can be vindictive so I was wondering if he was throwing his gills around about me to our mutual friends. One being his sister. Oh well… I don’t like Grouper right now.

skarab
skarab

Oh dear, i’ve just heard that an elderly couple I love, who live not far from where my mountain relatives live, are in hospital. He sustained concussion and a gash to his head and she a broken hip and wrist. The official spin is that he fell over and cut his head on a rock, while her injuries are as a result of tripping while in a hurry to reach him. However, according to a neighbour who was in the field next to theirs, the story is a little different. Apparently, he had heard them yell at each other –… Read more »

Chironary
Chironary

Opposites attract – Pisces and Virgo – drawn to one another like magnets, but, they do tire of another eventually and can literally tear one another apart. Yup, Mars Rx in Scorpio – built up anger can erupt like a volcano. Plus Neptune in Pisces dissolves relationship boundaries. Saturn in Sagittarius – the most calm, peaceful, monk like people have their worst side coming out – masks drop off. And ruler of Pisces, Jupiter is in his detriment in Virgo….plus South Node is also in Pisces and Chiron (old, past karmic wounds wield their ugly head).

Chironary
Chironary

Sun in Pisces, Mercury in Pisces and South Node in Pisces, all in the 2nd House. My North Node is in Virgo 8th House and conjunct Saturn Rx + Moon Lilith. It’s nodal return time. I must say that I’m surrounded by Virgos, not just in family but also friends and love interests as well (they never last though, start out of the blue and end out of the blue – karmic I guess). Virgos seems to be drawn to me like moths to a flame, they actually ‘fish’ me out or approach me (mostly female friends). They’re always confiding… Read more »

hobbes
hobbes

I’m a massive multiple (sun, moon, Mercury, Mars & Saturn) Pisces who has been involved in a discreet (read: entirely sexual) relationship with a Virgo man for several months. If it wasn’t for the insane sexual / chemical buzz in our contact I’ve often thought we would absolutely hate each other. Or love to hate each other. Or hate to love each other.

So thank the universe it’s just scorched-earth sexual politics. Anything else would likely have been nasty, brutish and short.

Chironary
Chironary

Opposites attract – Pisces and Virgo – drawn to one another like magnets.

Carey
Carey

Haa!! This Virgo does. It seems to be a pattern that I am attempting to learn from. All my Pisces friends have ended up spearing me through my heart after being like sisters. And I know this is just my own perception of it. And the result, I am loathe to admit, is that the only “person I cannot stand to be around or think about or see their name,” over the course of time, happens to always be one Pisces or another.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

+1

seawitchmermaid
seawitchmermaid

I am a Pisces and actually am having issues with a Virgo rising person. Around Neptune issues… Basically they have given up drinking (couple years ago) but exhibiting some “dry drunk” behavior that is apparently invisible to them, and it is damaging. Sigh.

Chironx8
Chironx8

I do think there is a love/hate vibe always underlying Virgo and Pisces … The uber Virgos in my life love me ( platonic relationships) but also kind of hate that they do … I am uber piscean and a little too ‘unkempt’ for them but they crave to be in my intuitive orbit, or so it seems, like they try to disappear and then they can’t…. And in Nov 2015 one of them really stabbed me in the back professionally (the tarot warned me) and now it is like a guilt / atonement thing … I think he feels… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Yes you got some form of attempted atonement. Though don’t underestimate the potentialy vile reasons for it. Maybe an attempt to weaken your resolve ?

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Funny – in November I got betrayed by a Pisces at work.

Helena
Helena

I am Pisces with a Virgo Moon AND on the North Node so I would love to know what this means for me… I have no Virgo’s in my life but went on what I thought was a fairly good date with one and never heard from him again. However, that IS par for the Tinder course so possibly can’t blame being a Pisces on that one πŸ˜‰

wonderbeam
wonderbeam

Yes. Have definitely noticed – with virgo male bestie. Much distance (no bitterness though) and spot on with the timing.
With female virgo cousin, not so much. Increasing closeness.
From a fishgirl x

Golden Koi
Golden Koi

Hmmm, multi pisces with Saturn in Virgo. Overall, I get along well with Virgos, and I love working with them. It seems that there’s always that odd duck low functioning Virgo that draws out my belligerent side (Aries moon, Sun-Mars conjuction in pisces) my nagging, nit picking, criticizing, kvetching, and just being an overall crank while doing precisely nothing else to rectify the situation. Right now, it happens to be a former supervisor fulfilling that role. He once told me that I needed to talk to my husband (who was an equal to him) and have him set me straight… Read more »

davidl
davidl

Tell your husband to kick his arse. Sounds like the type that this Aries would gladly give a golden wedgie to in front of all the staff and never regret being shown the door. If you’re good at what you do there will always be a another better place to be. And you would always have that sooky yelp he made to remember forever πŸ™‚

davidl
davidl

Actually, go the atomic wedgie ! He will never forget it.

Alouetta
Alouetta

What a jerk! If that were me I would be torn between leaving that workplace and not wanting to give him the satisfaction.

Pi
Pi

So I hope your husband then assigned you a better role , or promoted you? “Putting you in your place” indeed, doesn’t have to mean downwards hehehehe. I’d define that as “unintended consequences” for other guy and sucked in, too #teamwork #marriage #communication

Kay
Kay

I’ve had a really confusing blur of losing things, being generally incoherent when it comes to the details, and feeling like I’m on the blue devil hoochie juice even when I’m completely sober having had a nice 8 hours of sleep and a relatively balanced qigong and self-care practice. My Natal Pisces/North Node Rising has really been hit hard by the transiting nodes making all my internal conditioning and thought processes come to the surface. Good but exhausting.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

I love Pisces folk, we share an epic psychic connection for the most part. The only exception was this very mean and withholding girl at my former training space. I swear she must have only her sun in Pisces, she was so hateful and for no good reason other than her own blazing insecurity. I have zero respect for people who turn up to a creative space and withhold – if you cannot give yourself over, how can you be an artist? Do it for a hobby, forget about it for a career. Vibe with Virgo’s, too. August folks can… Read more »

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I’m a Virgo with Fish rising and I’ve been insanely organised of late.

Also all the fish folk seem to be getting fit and eating healthy.

I have no issues with Pisceans, but then I have it rising…

quintile
quintile

Same Lux – I am virgo sun, merc, venus and pluto with pisces rising and moon. The transiting neptune saturn square is RIGHT on my pisces moon square my saturn on the MC. I have spent years reconciling my pisces moon and virgo sun – today feeling a tad exhausted by the struggle, they can both f*** off πŸ™‚

quintile
quintile

I think my virgo side hates my piscean, and vice a versa he he πŸ™‚

Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I know what you mean! I feel like they have always been at odds, till Saturn square Neptune seemed to straighten me out.

quintile
quintile

they reckon that when we CAN reconcile the two, its a recipe for wisdom – combining the analysis of virgo and the intuition of pisces – worth aiming for!!

davidl
davidl

I’ve never read that ?
πŸ˜‰
When I think of my sun etc in Aries and my NN in libra the only analogy I can come up with is a confused sheep πŸ™‚

Leo-Scorp Grrrl
Leo-Scorp Grrrl

It’s not Pisces for me. I think I hate everyone right now who is not in my inner circle. Feel like work is almost undermining. Think they are all just reacting instead of planning. Mutable is my mantra but I don’t want to bend any more!!!! It’s only June 1.
When can I go full Mars action? Waiting waiting waiting for direct Mars!

Corrina
Corrina

My Virgo bestie ended her 25 year relationship with Pisces partner mid last year. 😯

I wouldn’t say she’s gone all floaty and vague … more analysis paralysis. Mind you Uranus is hitting her chart hard and I’ve never known a Virgo to enjoy sudden shocks. Unless they are electric ones under kinky circumstances. πŸ˜‰

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Lol I am that virgo infused soul, as I’m pluto uranus virgo 1st house conjunct and its quincunx my uranuian aquarian sun 6th…my 7th pisces mars (conjunct chiron) is opposite uranus and pluto…

I thrive on the sudden change and I loathe stuckness…give me a good truth whipping serum anytime.

The only problem for me is my mercury is retrograde pisces (desc) opposite virgo jupiter 12th (conjunct asc) so I’m habitually misty, spiritually escapist and too optimistic with vision more than reality…

The hard punctures and shocks keep it insightful…

kimiann
kimiann

Do you know ?

davidl
davidl

I’m on the Pisces side. Come over here honey and let me brush that Virgo right out of your fur. For the Virgo it’s the back of the brush, but come to think of it they may like that ? Hmmm.

Pi
Pi

Finally, someone talking some sense around here lol. Maybe pisceans just need a hug right now. Chiron’s there too all injured animal like. Maybe this is why I’m still talking to the double Pisces triple Aries. Usual social codes don’t apply, thank Fuq, so I roam around being whatever and he dgaf so we all dgaf together. Fully lost contact with one Virgo. Stone cold. The only explanation is that I have done something hideous and hit a wall of virgo disapproval at high speed and broke a case on the ricochet, seems odd after 14 yrs of chill (does… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Vase. Not case.

Jokerman
Jokerman

So is it a celibate relationship?

I’m on your vase…(on 2nd thoughts it doesn’t sound right)

davidl
davidl

Yeah, same thing happened to me once with a Virgo. After years of a productive relationship, for no specified reason I was dumped and left for dead. Years later I found out that the Virgo had ‘come across’ as in full on Virgo spy mode, some info about me (that actually turned out to not be about me, just someone with the same name ) and without even a right of reply cut me off. The weird thing was on a professional and financial level it cost him a lot, nearly everything. I bumped into Virgo years later and although… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

πŸ™ My virgo (ex?) bestie is upset as I said something a bit cutting. It’s been 3 months. I sent her kid a prezzie from auntie. Nothing. She texted when my gran died the other week though.

Still, I feel very hurt. Regardless of my strung out words, my actions have been generous and sisterly for years. I would never, ever treat a friend like that…
I am feeling wary of Virgo’s now too.

sphinx
sphinx

Sorry your comment was so resonant, it brought up a torrent in me!

“Pride & Pettiness – A Virgo Story”..

Pi
Pi

Ah yeah. If it is a specific incident or problem that a mutually respectful conversation might resolve with some guts on both sides, then I think that’s ultimately better (and more adult, according to my NN Libra developmental path) than whatever a Fuq-you or epic ice princess fadeout might achieve, then again if they dgaf about the connection then msg received loud and clear, lol, won’t bother you anymore
*polite hello in passing*

mae
mae

Goes both way – I’m a strongly Virgoan Leo and Pisces “friend” of 3 years cut me out. No explanation given despite multiple openings to do so, near as I can tell an opening on the rung above me on the social ladder appeared and she made a flying leap for it.

So yeah: I’m slightly off the piscean make up your own rules vibe ATM…

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

As multiple virgo stellium 1st house, with sun in 6th….they do :-))

davidl
davidl

πŸ™‚

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Or is that the pluto uranus (virgo) 1st – mars chiron (pisces) 7th opposition?

No one mentioned yet I think anything of inverse roles…so sometimes the partner is the enemy you benefit from…

Peregrine
Peregrine

Hahaha! Love the pic Mystic! Let me guess, the hairy one is the Pisces right?! I’m a Pisces with Virgo rising – what does this mean for me? Self-wrestling?! (I have noticed a swing between doing profit and loss statements, and then sitting on the couch watching Shaun the Sheep….)

marsbar
marsbar

I have have an MC and Venus in Virgo and honestly the Pisces vaguery I thought made certain men folk so alluring is really boring me lately. The emo I mistook for mysterious and deep is starting to be a drag. There can only be one “goth” one in the ”relationship” and that is me. πŸ™ I find myself obeying the oracle even when i don’t want to as it is mostly right, esp when it comes to love decisions. For whatever reason more accurate than tarot which always seems to say I have a new love thing going on… Read more »

Mina
Mina

My first “real love” is a Virgo and I’m a Pisces. Long story short, I needed to “temporarily” leave him and move back in with my parents for my own safety despite how strongly I loved him. He took it horribly at first but is now doing a helluva lot better emotionally and has been rather lucky (Jupiter in Virgo working well for him guess?) but developmentally, it’s as if he hasn’t learned a damned thing! I refuse to associate myself with him now, so fed up! Getting back together seems an impossibility and I have lost interest. I feel… Read more »

Mina
Mina

My ascendant is in Scorpio and his in Taurus.

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

I’ll tell you something. My Virgo ascendant and pisces ascendant seem to be falling in love with each other. My aries sun is gagging a lot at the love fest and wants to DO STUFF but Saturn is in trine anyway so I’ve moved to 9th house taurus for the summer.

Saoirse Kirke
Saoirse Kirke

Pisces descendant.

I tried.

nightflora
nightflora

Same here- I’m Virgo Rising with a Pisces Moon conjunct descendant and I LOVE Saturn square Neptune inexplicably.

baristagem
baristagem

Definitely felt the Pisces – Virgo alienation over the 8 months!

It was in March that I made a big effort to get my thoughts/feelings together about the relationship and move on.

Pisces Rising & Natal Jupiter in Virgo

vikingwoman
vikingwoman

This libra says…any Virgos who hate Pisces are all invited to my house where we can have some Lilac Wine and Reishi smoothies and get this misunderstanding allllll sooorted ouuuut. Yah? Yeah.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Let me guess. The Fastidious Red n Silver Dude is the Virgo, on the left, and Chewbacca’s kid is the Pisces?

Fisces folk are fab

Catcatcat
Catcatcat

I am a Pisces rising, with a natal Nep on the MC, and the reeeeal time Nep transiting my ascendant for…well year(s) now. All that bein’ said: my best friend (and sister) is a Virgo, and she and I get along famously, still. Closer than ever, in fact. Maybe the drudging affects sign signs differently, but for me, I can see we’ve been more honest about some of the ill, quirks and shared pains we had growing up in our particular family. In short: processing parental shortcomings together, while not feeling particularly down about it. Kinda refreshing. I think Pisceans… Read more »

lumnative
lumnative

I am also a Pisces rising with Neptune on my MC in the 10th. Transiting Neptune is just exact on my AC now but still has 5 more degrees to go before it directly opposes my 7th house Virgo Sun exact. I’ve been experiencing drudging from this aspect for myself and among a friend who was fellow Virgo who I am no longer friends with. I am still very close friends with my Pisces friends. I totally agree I think Pisces get a bad wrap, they are some of my favorite people.

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