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Sarma Vegan

Seriously when i first saw The Downfall Of NYC’s Hottest Vegan I thought it was a tragicomic vehicle for Reese Witherspoon or Rachel McAdam even. But it’s real.

Read the story for full details but basically it is about Sarma Melngailis a  Virgo vegan, super-successful and fit as a fox, who seems to have come undone during Neptune opposite her Mercury in Virgo/Saturn over her Neptune and via a man, not even drugs.

She is now in prison, facing multiple charges, including grand larceny, tax fraud and violation of labor laws. The dude is facing even more charges, but they’re no longer a couple. This is not a love story.

It is a surreal tale complete with lines like this;

“He said he was a retired Navy Seal, shot in the line of action in the chest. I would always see what I thought were bandages, but he was just taping his man boobs down.”

“A delivery of non-organic, cheesy Dominoes outed them.”

“She was lonely because she was obsessed. She worked constantly, often sleeping at her office.”

“There are no gluten free, vegan, organic options in jail. She is having to make do with cucumbers…”

I am para-phrasing but you get the point. How could such a now person end up having to freak over the lack of contemporary nutrition options in a prison? A staunch anti-gambling advocate & icon of the raw foodie scene she ends up accused of taking off with the (substantial) profits from her healthy restaurant chain to fund this guys dodgy gambling/biz crap AND ordering Dominoes?

It is the latter that seems to be shocking the most people.  It is also kind of haunting as i think heaps of peeps know what it is like to be grinding away, putting your all into a business you love and being literally unable to meet potential lovers; sometimes when you do lift your head up like an eager beaver on Tinder or whatever, the choices you make can be sub-optimal.

Of course there is a court case to come out of all this yet and Ms Melngailis will have the chance to tell her side of the story.  It somehow seems so zeitgeist. And with Jupiter on her Sun-Mars in Virgo, likely to blow out into something bigger.

Thoughts?

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PorkchopMM Member
Porkchop

All these bloody disgraced “wellness warriors”! Shame on them.

Also, I think it is great to want to eat healthfully and take care of yourself but I think for a lot of people “clean eating” is just another form of eating disorder. Touchy subject for me, if you can tell.

Pass me the gluten, thanks! 🙂

emgMM Member
emg

I bet there was a huge Pluto effect playing out in their combined charts. I had this with a guy who I got divorced not over but about, we then set up a company and I put in vast amounts of my divorce settlement. It was just beginning to make profit with some great staff I had hired but then I found out that although I had not taken a penny from the company in 18 months but was keeping myself and my daughter (without any aid) he had been back pocketing thousands of pounds. I called him on it… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

Thought this was going to be one of those before-after meth photo stories with a vegan twist. 😯

Didn’t Gwyneth say she would rather smoke crack than eat cheese from a can?! There’ll be meth and cheese in prison I guess, so some choice at least.

Sad Neptune/Saturn story. There are guru’s who suggest that food isn’t as necessary as a connection to Spirit, spiritual types who haven’t eaten for a decade etc. Then there’s this option I guess, disconnect.

ChiMM Member
Chi

Attractiveness Halo Theory, is this app/credible?
And then it all went South?

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

The next Orange is the New Black HBO Series !
Hoping this turns into her Phoenix Life Story.

ChiMM Member
Chi

🙂

ChiMM Member
Chi

*SMILE*

PiMM Member
Pi

Kale is the new macaroni cheese.

(I eat both ftr)

cosmic fleeceMM Member
cosmic fleece

Whip quick Madame Pi !
How about Kale is the New Mash ?
xxx

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

I remember YEARS AGO reading a blog post by this Sarma woman about her experience going on a green smoothie fast. She said she had been eating and drinking too much at the restaurant and had gained like 20 lbs or something like that and was all emotional about how the green smoothie cleanse was so healing (plus helped her lose the weight, of corse). It definitely was indicative of a weird relationship with food and I thought it was odd that she would put all that out there because if she can’t be lean and feeling great when she… Read more »

ChiMM Member
Chi

The start of the (workaholic?) descent vulnerable and open to anyone, and then meets a man with a addiction to gambling, marry the two and sad ending.

Taurean i knew worked 7 days a wk for 30 odd yrs, to bld a business, never had a man since the divorce, except maybe a few dates.

Had a mechanic fix car, went out w/him for a while.
One day the Mechanic said Taurus needed a new engine (maybe he needed a quick 10 grand).

Taurus gets second opinion, turns out car perfectly fine, ended up in court, was a really foul guy.

Charles
Charles

10k for a new engine?!? 10k what? Pesos? Or was this a Ferrari? That doesn’t sound Taurean. Getting a second bid, now THAT is Taurean.

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

My guess is that her business practices weren’t strictly on the up-and-up (and possibly in a very small way that only a Virgo would even notice or worry about) and this guy served her up some philosophical justification for whatever it was that made sense to her. Plus sex of course. This is how people get conned. They have a chink. She obviously had one, and I’d bet that whatever it was is mostly in her head and invisible to the naked eye. The man could have just been throwing s*** at walls seeing what stuck and it stuck to… Read more »

Charles
Charles

A former employee of Bear Stearns and Bain Capital, whose business practices were not strictly on the up-and-up? That is unpossible! I am sure that her degree from Wharton helped her to conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles as practiced on Wall Street: skim money from everyone poorer than you.

Quadruple CappyMM Member
Quadruple Cappy

Thankyou for this post;MM has a way with words that just makes my day;laughing out loud?

hdq
hdq

Found her in the ephemeris.. Virgo sun mercury mars, libra moon, Leo venus. Oh dear, prison may not be an optimum environment for her.

The glee, the snark, I feels it. It’s not the veganism, it’s the whole lifestyle guru vibe. Though, to be fair, she looks dreadfully unhappy in those 2011 pics. And that guy! Dear Goddess, what?!?

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

He is no Navy Seal, more like a Navy Walrus

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Genius

sphinx
sphinx

“Virgo sun mercury mars, libra moon, Leo venus. Oh dear, prison may not be an optimum environment for her”.
Oh dear indeed.
My Libra Moon Virgo Mars boy is a germphobe since toddlerhood. He cries at the sound of a person suffering post-nasal drip (not for them, for his ears).

Z
Z

That “fit-as-aa-fox” vegan is actually someone who struggles with bulimia, anger mangement, bad relationship choices and really bad eyebrow game. You can’t take things into extremes.

ChiMM Member
Chi

This is a similar case, this is the one I thought Mystic was writing about intiially:

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/16/the-tragic-downfall-of-new-yorks-hottest-socialite/

This is just lost for words:

http://nypost.com/2016/03/20/aspens-most-famous-socialite-the-murder-that-rocked-the-a-list/
xxx

PiMM Member
Pi

Perhaps she could use her apparent nutritional know how and marketing persuasive skills to work with the US prison system to serve nutritious meals. If she is having some kind of massive Neptune transit, that’s a tale of Misery And Redemption right there.

The rest seems to tie in with the scorp shaman ex army post from a couple of weeks ago. Puritans always come undone. Walk the middle path, there’s less chance of going to hell…

hdq
hdq

I doubt our prison system gives 2 shits about her nutritional and marketing expertise. Nor do they care about the meals they serve — it is modern-day slavery, but without the need for the slaves to stay healthy enough for manual labor.
“Liberty” and “justice” for all. Good times.

krs3MM Member
krs3

OMG I am so glad you are talking about the astro of this story, Mystic, because it is SO INSANE. I live in NYC and I used to go to her restaurant. I’m not remotely vegan, but it was delicious and interesting. I loved the lettuce wraps from her takeout place, too. It really was the only place you could take people with ultra crazy diets who also considered themselves food people. I still enjoyed eating there back in the day, but this place has had trouble from the start and food people have always gossiped about the level of… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

‘this makes me wonder about all the complex deficiencies you can develop on restricted diets if you’re not very careful — and how they impact the brain and decision making’ – this is something I think about too. I find people consistently low in energy are really not dependable. People who are idealists to the point of damaging themselves, aren’t really concerned about people, they have chosen abstract ideals over people. To an extent that is ok, ideals are important and sometimes our lives are worth losing to demonstrate that. (I suppose I am talking extremes here, like cannibalism in… Read more »

12th House VirgoMM Member
12th House Virgo

“People who are idealists to the point of damaging themselves, aren’t really concerned about people, they have chosen abstract ideals over people.”

Yes!

skarab
skarab

Totally agree with krs3 and you. I have known a lot of people through my practice that are on rigid or exclusive diets. They are the most unbalanced people I know – physically, mentally & socially. All control freaks. Some are lucky to be cushioned by their wealth. Others lurch from one health or mental problem to the next.

And yes, ideals can become prisons where reason and common sense soon wither & rigidity sets in. And yes to the middle path – flexibility in thought and action avoids a lot of pointless suffering.

Alouetta
Alouetta

‘She educated the other inmates about veganism and healthy eating’
Someone’s gonna get shanked.
Everything about this is amazing.

leolizaMM Member
leoliza

or shishkbobbed!

Charles
Charles

I personally pledge I will deliver to her prison cell throughout her term of incarceration, an unlimited personal supply of organic kale, on the sole condition that she eats nothing but the kale. No trading with other inmates for food, they wouldn’t want it anyway. No condiments, just pure kale, all kale, all the time.

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

No one deserves that!

Charles
Charles

But it’s organic and vegan! I’ll even throw in a blender.

LindseyMM Member
Lindsey

Sorry to sound synical but to me she seems a perfect example of fame, 21st C style. Hyped to the max thanks to modern technology, good looks, advocate of something ‘in’. IOW, lots of trendy superflash when in fact she might have always been quite the shallow, opportunist nutbar underneath all of the Today sparkle. It’s often just a matter of time before the muck is exposed – with the help of Saturn. He doesn’t like phonies does he.

Z
Z

I have to agree with you.

PorkchopMM Member
Porkchop

Yes, another Belle Gibson!

seawitchmermaidMM Member
seawitchmermaid

Sounds like she was already feeling an enormous amount of pressure… This is certainly the most extreme story I’ve heard about this, but I’ve heard others as well, about being vegan or super fit or whatever and feeling this immense pressure to keep up, or “keeping up appearances” (thinking of her bulimia) and then when they are no longer vegan or super fit even if due to health issues having this huge backlash against them, death threats etc. It’s like their “fans” or whatever put them on a pedestal… I think this is an unpopular opinion but it seems like… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

We’ve lost religion as a means of deifying and persecuting people. Now we like to use equally nonsensical grounds such as food to do the same thing.
Xavier Rudd, anyone? How’s that for a fall from grace for something that had SFA to do with his actual music.

seawitchmermaidMM Member
seawitchmermaid

Totally true! The same fanatical nature, just a different channel.

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

we don’t allow for the whole ‘being human and fallible’ thing.

PiMM Member
Pi

Yeah it’s weird.

LiliMM Member
Lili

Reminds me of the Lulu Lemon sales culture which resulted in taunting and a murder-

LiliMM Member
Lili
marsbar
marsbar

I just read an article about part-time vegan and cheaganism as a lifestyle now. There is even a big movement to add oysters as a valid part of veganism, since oysters dont feel pain, cost very little resources to keep, and purify the environment. I suspect the reason why veganism gets such a bad rap is that “purity” thing…like you are quietly shaming others around you. So when those others witness what they think is a cheat they go apeshit. It all seems so competitive to me. When i used to be vegan, i got really tired of people trying… Read more »

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Strang-is her partner
Strang-is this story.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini

In a similar vein….

Cafe Gratitude was a strictly vegan and raw institution in California…. And now this:

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/lifestyle/5586497-181/cafe-gratitude-owners-return-to?artslide=0

Seabird
Seabird

Yes I was thinking about this one as well!

Seabird
Seabird

And also this 😀

Seabird
Seabird

PS look at the first comment on the Youtube vid….exactly how I feel about all these people- the privilege just oozes out in between the fake spirituality and the diet:denial played as a competitive sport.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini

🙂 Quite accurate! NarcissEATs – quite plentiful in California….

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Activated cashews…and ugg boot hugging.
Hilarity +.

marsbar
marsbar

I feel like Activated Cashews should be a new band name.

hdq
hdq

So hilarious. I’ve been meaning to go eat at their other restaurant since this story broke.

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

She sounds tightly wound from even before she met him. Anyone who puts themselves under so much pressure/scrutiny can only hang on for so long.
Is it a low Virgo thing to try and offset the good with bad when under pressure? Living with the darkness but being able to justify its presence by assigning its responsibility to someone else?
(Not a judgement of virgos …just an observation on duality which many virgos tend to display)

ChiMM Member
Chi

Self manipulating (or is it destructive) behaviour, perhaps at such a low ebb that Ms M just threw in the towel, and broke.
Seperate hotel rooms?
And I read about this below, I’ve seen Vegans out meat eaters on Twitter, so I can’t even beging to imagine the pressure in the vegan restaurant industry, then here comes along poor old Navy Seal, aka life coach, with a one way ticket out of there.

ChiMM Member
Chi

Sorry, I know it is a Virgo thing, but prob can be for o/signs too! Unsure abt the o/stuff though, you’re probably correct!, What a dark place, ‘cancer would’ve been better’ this girl more of less, wanted to be dead, wonder if will get jail, had a dream about her before, not nice x

Unicorn SparklesMM Member
Unicorn Sparkles

Yes, It’s like she was so far gone in the spiral that she chose to just keep falling.
And Virgo already has intense self scrutiny.
Imagine the post fallout self assessment super guilting she’s doing in jail while on depleted nutrition due to basic cucumber diet…

ChiMM Member
Chi

Oh it would be good to see the natal chart, for the next year this has me so worried!

JaniB
JaniB

Latvian surname translates as “black cock” or “black rooster”.

marsbar
marsbar

Interesting! Is that what is on her tattoo? Looks like a black chicken or duck.

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I think it is
“Galapogas Duck of the 24th and a 1/2 Century”

amiMM Member
ami

Her tattoo is her One Lucky Duck logo. She is a friend of mine.

LeoEscapeArtistMM Member
LeoEscapeArtist

Virgo, the Unlived-Life-Portal is calling…rsvp Neptune.

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Yes! Have this in spades!

AstroGeekMM Member
AstroGeek

Sounds like there was some dark depth beyond the sunny vegan facade. (But we’re always more than meets the eye). Maybe the darker Virgo tendencies (obsessive-compulsive) were at play, too? Like, once she realized she’d been duped by him, she couldn’t admit and let everyone else see how”untidy” her life had become? Would love to set what they spent almost the money on. Random thought: I wonder if she’s bearing the collective psychological weight but of people wishing for Gwyneth Paltrow’s downfall. Similar look. Similar persona. And there’s a hint of (glee?) in the Post’s takedown. (Although the Post is… Read more »

embarkons7MM Member
embarkons7

Yikes! That is an epic tabloid story. The pull quote that got me is that even her lawyer doesn’t really know what happened: “We really just ask that the public reserves judgment until we figure out what’s going on.”

I’d be interested in hear someone unpack the astro influences a bit more — Saturn on natal Neptune, Neptune opposition on natal Mercury, etc.

LauraBloomifyMM Member
LauraBloomify

Well, as a Virgo under pressure right now this story terrifies me. And as a symptom of where I’m at, perhaps, it was the cheese that shocked me most, also!

ChiMM Member
Chi

Need to confirm, but read Dominos have vegan cheese n the states, i saw a petition to get in Australia too! x

ChiMM Member
Chi

And reading the ex-BF’s comments, he to has thrown her under the bus, what a lesson, she has literally aged two decades!
I hope Ms M does a Martha Stewart, and ends up starting a healthy prison food program, writes a book, gets a film optioned and becomes Julia Roberts!

Annica
Annica

I was thinking this too about how she can be the next Martha stewart in prison. The prison system is so awful in the u.s. It is almost inhumane and needs an overhaul very badly. Plus if she has strong Neptune in her natal chart and heteronormative, then pretty much men = drugs. I’m just saying. Men pretty much jizz out substances that make you feel calm and content. And yet the FDA does not regulate them despite the side effects. ….may cause random crying, criminal behaviour, loss of mental acuity, ……… I speak from experience.

12th house Neptune Jupiter
12th house Neptune Jupiter

So true Annica

ChiMM Member
Chi

was also going to say, it was the food too, if the bulimia (re?)started, due to stress of the work, and she was just not mentally sound.

ChiMM Member
Chi

Thanks for letting me know about that, as a Virgo, I can go weeks under Neptune in a fantasy unreality world, and then wake up in the cold light of day hits, and it’s a bitter pill to swallow.
But perhaps this girl was sort of stockholme syndrome, this guy sounds and looks like a monster, didn’t one of the waiters say ‘…he talked and walked like a mobster’, maybe there were undercurrents, maybe there were o/ppl after her, her lease was nearly up, the other ex-BF was bitching, am surprised she’s still alive x

ChiMM Member
Chi

Edit: He ‘tried’ to be a mobster…, wonder if he was into hookers as well.

marsbar
marsbar

Also the virgo tendency to think they can help/save someone too. I have venus there so i feel that as well.

I would be curious what sign strangi was as well. Any guesses? He looks creepy as hell in that photo.

ChiMM Member
Chi

Probably his Mum didn’t rememebr his correct birthdate, so he has the wrong one the whole time, like my poor uncle rip! It’s like they were a Bonnie and Clyde! Without the epic shootout! Just the feds!

ChiMM Member
Chi

Me too, unless you channel it for good, it’s a danger magnet!

cosmic fleeceMM Member
cosmic fleece

Morning Jupiter, Am on the same thinking track. I wouldn’t be surprised if she revolutionized food in the prison system after this stretch. Gardens where prisoners can grow their own vegetables – thus saving $$’s for the state and getting peoples hands dirty in the soil. Chickens for eggs and eating. Fruit trees, green houses…Jamie Oliver on board, she can re write the world of Prison food and well being here….

ChiMM Member
Chi

If Jupiter has been in Virgo since August 2015, is it possibly lucky that they were undone by a Domino’s pizza, or else she would’ve ended up in a flipping dumpster with this pathological liar, gambling addict, whatever, who totally saw this girl coming!
Fuq me!

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

ha ha, I love that. Jupiter in Virgo=blessings in disguise!

AND OF COURSE==PIZZA BINGE=CLASSIC JUPITER

We’ve cracked this, Jupiter!

ChiMM Member
Chi

Totally lol x

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

My LZ era “love” affair was with a so-called ex-marine. So called because who the eff really knows. I know this – he was allegedly dishonorably discharged. He also couldn’t swim. Neither could the guy I dated late 2006 who claimed to be a former Marine. I know first-hand when one is at a low ebb in life low sociopath’s and users can smell it a mile away and WILL feed you dreams to feed their insatiable need for power and greed. However, you draw the line somewhere and I drew mine when I saw my ex using an investor’s… Read more »

ChiMM Member
Chi

And i supposed he took them to the cleaners, and never got jail or sued… :-0

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

You know how the story goes. Man, the havoc and trauma that man has wreaked in one lifetime – wowsers.

ChiMM Member
Chi

Ah so true! How many people have taken their lives over $.
🙁
Happy birthday Belladonna! x

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Muah! <3

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

That “cancer” quote is so Virgo. She’s even self guilting, poor thing!

As a Virgo, I sympathise.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Oh my wow.

That thing about the “Navy Seal” story turning out to be taped-down man boobs should be read as a caution by everyone thinking of online dating. Be cautious!

Sounds like she got sucked into his web of crap.