To Which Self Be True?

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Roberto Matta and Victor Brauner

If the Saturn-Neptune square (with some input from Jupiter in May) does not send us all hyper-bats, it will be highly effective.

By October, we will be individuation ninjas, powered by self-knowing and candor, with absolutely no delusion contaminants whatsoever.

It is a process and one that will pick up speed in early May, when gas giant Jupiter turns Direct and begins to pressure Saturn in Sagittarius, the sign Jupiter lords it over.

My aim is not just make sense of this cluster-fuq in the Horoscopes but to actually work out ways in which we can benefit from it.

The vibe is SO mutable and kinetic, i am playing Schumann Resonance 24-7 to ground everything. Having said that, my espresso machine blew up from over-use – mutable, right?

 

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Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Trying to work this Saturn in Saggo/2nd House vs (square) Neptunian Dreamland in Pisces 4th House. I’m currently saving to buy a house but it will take time and discipline to manifest this dream. In the meantime I prefer to get lost in my Neptunian daydreams, art, music, and films to escape reality. No drugs, no alcohol just healthy escapism through meditating, yoga and dreaming. However, a strange Plutonian stalker has evaded my peaceful living situation (4th House) making me want to move all the quicker but cannot (Saturn/limitations) Very frustrated. April has been an extremely rough month of chronic… Read more »

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

Lower legs – Aqua; upper thighs – Sagg; knees – Capricorn.

Sorry about the disrupt to your House Peace. Don’t argue, don’t engage, be non-committal…EXCEPT about your boundaries. You can say a couple of clear ones, nicely, and on “nice” repeat.

Although, I do know that it takes a good person to respect boundaries. When someone’s in a bad space that’s hard. Try to have no pity.

Compassion trumps pity. It starts with you, and you do the wretched a favour by not letting them feed. Your (currently limited) energy belongs to you.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Thanks for the planet/leg info.
All three planets active!
yes, I absolutely do not engage with him at all.
I tried MM’s advice about sea salt and sage. Mugwort’s coming up next and black tourmaline.

Pi
Pi

FWIW I run with the italian stovetop coffeepot. minimum moving parts. no electricity other than whatever stove uses. ritual. the machine is one that a flatmate’s girlfriend gave me for my 21st birthday – over 15 years ago. wow. that’s serious mileage. #quality #simplicity #italy

Rosa
Rosa

Oh lawdy, yes it is a mutable chaos indeed. I feel like my life is in a blender right now.. I broke my favourite cup yesterday, the microwave is now making odd buzzing noises, our 2 fish who are usually happy swimming around in a lively manner are now looking depressed and lethargic, husband’s car got broken into and there is glass everywhere (this all happening a day before he leaves to see family down south for a week)… whaaaat is happening. All these things happened in the span of 24hours!

alchemy-saltMM Member
alchemy-salt

Funnily enough, after months of idiotic Love Zombie blah and the last few weeks in particular feeling not so much swamp as quicksand, I feel like I’m finally – after a lot of work – dragging myself out of the other side. Secret projects, sorting my shit out, organising my finances, breaking out the old Filofax…this is my time! The idea of receding from the world to concentrate on my own creative projects sounds heavenly right now.

davidlMM Member
davidl

“By October, we will be individuation ninjas, powered by self-knowing and candor, with absolutely no delusion contaminants whatsoever” …. Call me delusional 🙂 but I’ve been taught, that just saying the words, making a statement , like the one above is all that’s needed to make it so. Once you’ve made the statement relax, let it go, nothing else needed. It’s done. The problem of course is whether that’s where you want to be in October a week from now 🙂 Ultimately it’s what you choose to believe that will decide your time frame in any endevour. Saturn and Jupiter… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

We need a “Mystic’s Uranian Affirmation Guide”, start the day saying to the mirror:

eg. “I AM an individuated ninja!
I AM powered by self-knowing and candor!!
I am FREE of delusion contaminants and grow more clear every day!!”
“I channel the Mutable Kinetic as I grow more grounded Schumann-style by the minute!”

sphinx
sphinx

And yes it is illegal to enslave sex spores, duh! (See, I just manifested that 😉 )
I like yr take, intergalactic and sexy.

milleunanotteMM Member
milleunanotte

I like that. Neptune is not always the poison it’s made out to be. Though it’s more than we can handle….Neptune doesn’t really need handling. Our own spiritual morality is too small, and we get drunk on Neptune. Or maybe that’s me, with Neptune in hot conjunction with Jupiter and Moon…high on my own supply. All i’ve got in there to assist is exact conjunction and exact degree rising Antares. Serkhet. I’m hanging on. I notice plenty of difference between real estate, and REAL estate. I’m glad noone influenced me in where i live. They all want me to live… Read more »

Pisces with Sagg Rising
Pisces with Sagg Rising

I was thinking about this Neptune/Saturn thingie and I think my life at the moment is a good example of how it is manifesting: I resigned from my soul-destroying job without having another job lined up (neptune-ish) because I did a bit of forward planning and don’t have to worry about money for a bit (saturn-y). I’m enjoying drifting and can’t even get my head around getting back into the job market at the moment (neptune again) but I know eventually I will have to get my act together and get back to work (saturn bitch). I think it may… Read more »

SeashineMM Member
Seashine

This Taurean needs a good rodgering…

sphinx
sphinx

Found such a nice special school for my autie boy. But last term ended up driving 3 hours a day to get him there. On Monday I decided I couldn’t do it and by Tuesday he was enrolled in a small local special school. Tomorrow he starts his first day and it will be his 3rd school (he also goes mainstream 2 days) to adjust to since Feb. *sigh* definitely Saturn – Neptune is about being realistic about our capacity vs our ideals for self and others. Also been upset at feeling I put so much effort in my female… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

I feel ya, Sphinx! I find ordinary relationships inordinately challenging to maintain lately for the same reason – I want depth & authenticity, and not everyone is geared this way or wants the same, which is OK. I am friendly with everyone but there are few that I count as true friends. I do believe there is value in being able to meet people wherever they are at, but good goddess sometimes I just want relationships in my life where I don’t have to stoop quite as much, you know? Sometimes it’s like I’m trying to shrink to fit, and… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Do it! Its a great idea…
Some of us are totally aware and comfortable with our own and others idiosynchrasies yet we still appear conservative on the outside, hold value to community, ethics etc…but still find it tricky to link with others who have esoteric interests at heart.

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

TY!

“..still find it tricky to link with others who have esoteric interests at heart.” YES!

sphinx
sphinx

What I find interesting is that the people who I find most amazing and gifted and so forth I feel completely neutral about. It’s like, yes we can share anything and get along perfectly well. There isn’t any excitement or painful cost. Just… smooth. It makes it hard to connect with them as they seem so complete in themselves? It’s like they are so balanced & chill they don’t leave much of an imprint!

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

All of this. I’m definitely hanging out with people who are waaay above my level in some areas and it’s challenging me and my little self gets all riled up. But also, I’m way with you on not having to stoop down to maintain connection. Done. Done. Done. And it’s easier to be alone. The psychic I see told me the era of the lone wolf is over and I just looked at him…Yeah, ok, so what do I do? And he said, but connection is real with animals, birds, pets, trees… and I was like, OK, I can do… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Oh shit…! A connection to animals and trees? Sounds like a time to connect with your Inner Shaman! Would be interesting to see what Na/Tr/Pr Chiron is up to for you. If a psychic told me something like that (and they once did, BTW, only it was a tarot reader), I sure would be exploring Native American spirituality to see if anything resonates….best of luck to you in connecting with other kindred spirits! <3

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

I love your enthusiasm. The connection has been there for a long time & since I can’t seem to connect with humans very well at the moment, I think the psychic was trying to make sure I got that I was not as alone as I was thinking at that moment. Him saying that about the connection had me going, “Oh yeah! I have that! My birds, trees, dog and bees.” As for Chiron, Natal Chiron in Aries, 8 degrees from NN, trine my Sag rising, opp Uranus in late Virgo. I’m about 9 degrees from my Chiron return. It’s… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Far out! LOL, I’m glad you find my enthusiasm endearing rather than annoying! As for the connection being there for a long time, boy do I feel you there…! I could write a small novel about my own experiences in this department, but instead I will just leave you with the thought of “honor those connections” for sure – especially if you know they have been there consistently throughout your life! And find people to talk to with whom you can have these types of spiritual conversations, because it can help you understand yourself and the world better. A casual… Read more »

FireTryin'MM Member
FireTryin'

Thank you for all of your words about your experience. It is pretty remarkable what the right words at the right time will do for a life. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and guidance.

sphinx
sphinx

Wrote you the longest thing in response, but it evaporated. But YES! Thank you for this. I get the stooping feeling but in no way am I chillax myself. Hello Scorpio Moon! And Aries ruled 11th! A life unexamined is hardly worth living. But I do tend to examine others too close at times. I have no secrets, no shame. I forget others do! My Libran 4th/5thHouse has Uranus & Pluto in it. Soo conciliatory, not! How about organising Astrological Dinner Parties? 12 people – romance possible but camaraderie first. So a blend of partnered and single to take the… Read more »

LiberatingVenusMM Member
LiberatingVenus

Gah – losing a response is the WORST! Merc enters its pre-retro “shadow” today – looks like our Trickster friend is already having some fun! Astro dinner parties sounds AWESOME! I love to cook/bake, so could totes play Hostess with the Mostest, LOL! Camaraderie is key – in any kind of relationship, I believe in just letting things unfold organically however they do sans pressure. Sometimes we connect, sometimes we don’t. It’s all about just holding the space, and keeping the heart open. Girlfriend, rest assured dat fine Leo ass will absolutely be the first name on the guest list… Read more »

Calli GMM Member
Calli G

Re: my espresso machine blew up from over-use

That seems like a sign of some sort.

There are a bunch of things in my life that are likely to come to a head between next Monday and the second week in June, so I’ll look forward to any and all ‘scope guidance available.

Jessica Mars
Jessica Mars

SR sounds like the cliche spaceship noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7DiOB8E5Zc

skarabMM Member
skarab

Thank you for the link!

but now i can’t stop thinking of Captain Kirk

skarabMM Member
skarab

Great – now Lieutenant Ellen Ripley & Alien …. so much calmer – not. 🙁

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Saturn on my Neptune Moon is kicking my ass! But it’s ok because I’m learning how to not be dissolved in the aspect because no the world is not actually going to eat me alive. I don’t need the shelter of escape in that form. I got five books in the mail yesterday, all that were recommended here, then I ordered a Chiron book for my kindle because it seemed immediately necessary that I get deeper into my 7th house Taurean Chiron. Oh ouchie, that wound. I’m working every angle of my t-square and then some and redefining myself. Or… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

What buchs didya get?

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Trickster Makes This World – Hyde, In the Dark Places of Wisdom – Kingsley, Meditations – Aurelius, Signposts – Linn, and Chiron and the Healing Journey – Reinhart. The Chiron book is blowing me away, so glad I got it. Part of my t-square and my moon is in the second. It’s all connected. Give me healing or give me death.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Chiron is my next one then.
Adv blurb:
“Collect’em all
Become your own Commander of the Universe”

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

looks like a great book list.

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

They say it takes 40 days to break a habit. Well, “sleeping in” until 9am hurts my head. HURTS MY HEAD. I used to be able to sleep in until noon on weekends and be all cool about it, but now (though it takes 20 minutes to “adjust” to the world) I gotta be up no later than 7am. I have changed. It has happened. And I have things to do – creatively, spiritually, business-wise, domestically.

It’s a new era indeed.

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

for several years i would to get up at 6am every day and it was FAB. things have changed, and currently i am really, really struggling with staying up in the morning. i get out of bed at around 730 for a little while and then hit the sack again from like 9-noon. it’s so frustrating! the need for zzzs and dreams feels pertinent rn but so too does the aspect of the whole situation that i’m just not *pushing* myself to get over it. i have so much to do! i cannot be taking advantage of my very ample… Read more »

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

I slept in until 10am today and I feel yuck. Though I have been very productive, I could have been more so, like made a dent. Nah, tomorrow I’m back to 7:30am at the LATEST. I got a kitchen to clean, dammit!!!! ;P

jediwarriormonk
jediwarriormonk

what an absolute motherfucker of a day – sorry needed to realese

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

It’s been one hell of a month. I’m counting my blessings because it could have been worse. I do not like to tempt the fates though. Honestly, all of April has been rough.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Love that picture, made me smirl.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Smile in real life?

marsbar
marsbar

is a smirl like a smile, smirk, and lip curl all in one? 😛

Pi
Pi

omg smirl

yes

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

SMIRL! eeeeeeee, thanks for the vocab boost!

Pegasus
Pegasus

‘Just be yourself’.
‘But which self do you want me to be’?

From Saggo Ashleigh Brilliant’s ‘Pot Shots’.

S
S

I recently used a Pegism.
I happened to be killing some time in a retail store. In my conversation with the lovely young customer service girl, as we colour matched with Chi Chi cosmetics “Oh there colour pigments are on par with YSL”

Keelkeel
Keelkeel

Time to take out the emergency coffee plunger 😉

PiMM Member
Pi

maybe if you eased up on the espresso, you wouldn’t need to be playing schuman resonance thingies 😉

love from cheeky pi x

look fwd to scopes stuff… am feeling a bit overwhelmed and dragg-y lately, not sure where to point the arrow of my ambitions. got the drive just can’t work out the direction. cosmic vision pls, higher beings!

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I am exactly the same, Pi! Restless as fuq but don’t know what to do /where to point the energy.

vikingwoman
vikingwoman

Me too, Pi. Grand Mutable Cross here. Trying not to go down in flames. One part of me is looking to the future…the other part is trying to slay the dragon of the past. Yuck.

I’m switching to Earl Grey but still blowing out my Keurig.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

This is me as well, Pi. Every break I have had from work I have gotten sick or just so exhausted I have to zen sloth, as Mystic puts it. And I pride myself on being healthy plus I’m an airy firey mix that usually is super bouncy and energetic. Hey, I think when it lifts it will be fantastic though.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Me too, pi. Got a few ideas & was feeling scatty about which direction to point the arrow. And yesterday, with the Moon in Cancer, i found an old copper embossed print in a 2nd hand store of Artemis & her hound. The hound is looking up towards where she is pointing her arrow – which is high into the sky above. And i thought, fuq it, gonna aim High! Going for THE project, which up till then i was putting off, coz it’s the most ambitious. The rest, i realised, are excuses for not doing THE one.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

“the rest are excuses for not doing THE one” – Oh wow thank you for articulating this, skarab – you’ve given me a massive aha moment. xx

skarabMM Member
skarab

Pleasure, hon. xx

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

ah me too! my mutability is being pinged in a way that is really challenging my super-fixed 8th house leo sun. and wtf jupiter is retro?! how could i have forgotten? (see above for answer) that explains so much.

Pi
Pi

oh wow, so many peeps in the same place. skarab’s thinking is good… I’m going through the mars-6th house transit and I think my work is cut out for me and I just need to keep it simple… stop reading those fuqing anxiety-inducing “overnight success stories” a la “i quit my lucrative career in executive finance / hamburger flipping / rub n tug and 12months later i have $2mil turnover with my totally online motivational widget business” gag vomit where was i? oh yeah so i think my own conclusion was focus on the daily basics. hit up transiting mars.… Read more »

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

Hahaha, i love that your espresso blew up! I’m working on mine, shouldn’t be too long now 🙂

baristagemMM Member
baristagem

*machine*

Martha
Martha

coincidence? My espresso machine blew up too! Just yesterday! And probably from overuse as I have been drinking way too many cups last weeks due to assignment pressure. My liver is very happy though 🙂

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

You’ve got to be ON it all.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

I am absolutely LOVING the Saturn Neptune square—I’m more productive and organised and disciplined (and “magical”) than ever before.

It takes work though.

LuvzalkemyMM Member
Luvzalkemy

Me too!

KarenMagpieMM Member
KarenMagpie

Second to both. Whatever is up right now, it is working for me, in a way nothing has in….wow. Well, since August last year (and even then, just barely). And yes, it’s taking work–for me, lots of showing up in a Saturn sort of way (which means moving through lots of fear and doubt and general murk).

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