Kesha’s Incredible Saturn Return

Kesha Warrior

The machinations of fame and wealth and power lend themselves readily to abuse, but they also comprise the vehicle that can radiate songs to as many listeners as Kesha’s have reached. That she waited nearly a decade to publish her allegations only points to the predicament in which most survivors find themselves: Abuse makes you who you are, but you can still be that person without suffering it interminably.
More than any other pop singer, Kesha has made joyful battle cries for the fucked-up and the beaten-down. She’s an unabashed mess, honest about her pain but never seeking pity for it, always finding the edge where she can lift herself up from her hells. “We ain’t perfect but that’s alright,” she sings. “Love us or hate us, nothing can break us / Better believe us: times, they are a-changing tonight.”

MTV –   Sasha Geffen

So, the musician Kesha is in court seeking an injunction to not work with the producer/the producer’s company (Kemosabe Records, housed under Sony) as she is alleging he sexually, verbally and emotionally abused her over several years, from when she was a teenage recording artiste.

The judge is so far ruling against it, citing commercial considerations and saying that there is not enough proof of the abusive conduct. With untold big names in the biz and fans coming forward to support Kesha, this story and dispute clearly has a while to run.

It’s totally like a lodestone of pertinent recollections for myself and heaps of women i know. Some men too. Who doesn’t recall being in their late teens, trying to hustle ahead in their career or study and having a run-in (at the very least) with someone powerful in your industry/scene, a sleazy predator in mentor’s clothing?

Astrologically, she’s fully in the Saturn Return Zone. This whole thing has been brewing since Saturn got into Sagittarius – she is a multiple Pisces (Mercury, Sun, Moon, Jupiter) with Sagittarius Zero rising.  Her Saturn Return is exact in December 2016 but in orb all year.  Think also Saturn square Sun with Neptune ON her Sun.

So identifying the past that shaped you, facing down your demons and trying to carve out your own professional identity is totally Saturn.  She is obviously doing battle with a completely cashed up and powerful entity, as well as airing some really uncomfortable subject matter. This clearly is a major stress event; at the same time, she is Mars in Taurus opposite Pluto in Scorpio and in trine to Lilith in Cancer/her 8th + her Sun/Mercury.  So the woman has guts and tenacity.

It’s also Jupiter in her 10th house – a classic transit for heightened renown and success. So this is interesting as she is having the battle of her career but she has also attracted a massive amount of back-up from powerful people and recognition via this. Jupiter is opposite Chiron in Pisces AND square her Chiron in Gemini. So the exposure and the painful dark materials.

“I have nothing left to hide. I did this because the truth was eating away my soul and killing me from the inside,” Kesha wrote on Instagram earlier this week in anticipation of today’s hearing. “this is not just for me. this is for every woman, every human who has ever been abused. sexually. emotionally. mentally. I had to tell the truth. so the outcome will be what it will be. there’s nothing left I can do. it’s just so scary to have zero control in your fate. but this is my path this life for whatever reason…

And the Mars Vibe is going back and forth over her Zero Sagittarius Ascendant until August. The court decision against her was handed down in the shadow-zone so, you know, this is just beginning.  It is one hell of a Saturn Return.

Thoughts?

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Rebs

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHO WAS GOING TO POST SOMETHING ABOUT HER MASSIVE SATURN RETURN!! This is such a trying time for her, she truly is a warrior. Thank you for writing about this.

supakaliMM Member
supakali

there’s something Greek statuish about her in that album cover image….speaking of Saturn

sphinx
sphinx

Interesting! Not so much Kesha’s problems, which are sadly all too familiar as the responses here show. The law of the jungle is just below the surface for a large portion of people. Take away the veneer of living in a structured, civilised world and many men are just entitled beasts that assume ownership of a smaller body as soon as look at it. It’s deeply shocking to experience. I wouldn’t have believed it until I went through it. I think it’s why many people don’t get the support, it seems so OTT. Like those priests going after children, it… Read more »

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

I think Kesha is actually a songwriter (supported and helped by her mom of course) and that’s how she got in the industry as a performer…she’s not the typical manufactured pop star puppet with the voice and the look belting out whatever gets thrown her way and that’s why I think this is all the more difficult for her, because she was very involved in the process of making her albums and doesn’t just wander in to record. She wrote songs for other artists before recording her own stuff. Apparently she also has a very high IQ and is quite… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

I am not sure but perhaps it is a Neptune issue – how others perceive you being so different from how you truly ‘are’?
Or at least a mutable issue.

We are multidimensional creatures yet the tunnel vision of television funnels a tiny pin of perceptions!
So I wouldn’t have picked her as a talented writer or smart type from what I have seen of her, uncharitable as it sounds.

She has NN in Aries – 5th House which is typically a struggle for freedom from the past need to please others.
Uranus in Aries transit to her NN in the mix there too.

baffled
baffled

Have to agree with you Sphinx,

So over the whole “Apparently she (it’s usually a she) has a very high IQ and is quite intelligent despite…. ” thing

Never really understood why women put on the dumb act if they’re actually smart.

Why? Completely baffles me.

sphinx
sphinx

If you are a woman, poor or sociable by nature I guess it would be quite clear that you can get a lot farther with a certain amount of charm and humour. The luxury of thinking otherwise is not afforded by all.

skarabMM Member
skarab

Dumb act?? What – so young chicks with high IQs have to act like demure intellectuals? They can’t express themselves in fun, parody and irony? You don’t get it? Is this too much of a threat for the patriarchy and all that is good and decent? LOL!

Good luck Kesha!

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

If the smart boys with high IQ’s can party then so can the smart girls. Not everyone has a strong desire to stay home and wear glasses to be treated with respect plus she’s young and it’s the age to party. If you’re gonna party better do it while still young.

skarabMM Member
skarab

*If i can’t dance, then i don’t want to be part of your revolution*
– Emma Goldman.

PiMM Member
Pi

Being a messy loon is not anathema to general intelligence.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Until recently only boys got ADHD According to the popular medical opinion, girls were not unruly, aggressive, argumentative or as difficult to control as boys. We were just diagnosed as being depressed because the pressure to conform and be a good girl, act nice etc. was so intense we mostly turned that anger and hyperactivity inwards so self-harmed and berated ourselves into shame, more shame and then, of course, the feelings of inadequacy did create depression, and the impulsivity became compulsive over eating or shopping. “Oh, she’s just terrible with money, such a scatterbrain.” Much easier to say than, “She… Read more »

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

my point is, so many people, esp guys in power just DON’T GET IT.
and the worst part is, they think it’s ok to pretend they do.
It’s worse than slactivism
it’s ignoramouspatriarchalism

sphinx
sphinx

It’s good you share Invicta, but your nature is to share and trust (as is mine) and we are going to be disappointed..the problem is endemic. An early childhood educator – legally bound to offer my autistic child a place in her kinder -refuses him for his disability I can take a good guess how empathic your reception will be! It’s tough.
Neurodiversity Now!

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Neurodiversity Now!
that is a hashtag I could get behind
xx

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

People need to wake up to charming sociopaths/psychopaths red flags.
I hate to see anyone predated on and the predator goes free and even applauded for being strong. Americans love the predator and desire victims. Just look at the OJ Simpson case celebrity worship is insane. A jury let him go.
The more people who make a stand, say no more we can ferret out these creeps!

sphinx
sphinx

So true. What traditional archetype is the narcissist? Are they like the trickster Loki in myth or Mercury? What flag do they fly in ancient historical storylines?

electro
electro

Fuq yeah. Virgo 11th house don’t play those BS games.

El Trumbo
El Trumbo

And they call Pisces weak…all that Pisces Qi flowing through her veins and still she raises her Warrior’s Cry. Much Love, Fishy Kesha.

Charles
Charles

Not to make fun of the woman’s horrible situation, but she might have more power than she realizes. I suppose it depends on how many records are left on the contract. This is where you get albums like Van Morrison’s “Contract-Breaking Sessions,” Lou Reed’s “Metal Machine Music” or “Monty Python’s Contractual Obligation Album.”

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Put out six shitty albums and get out asap! That’s my advise to her, go to recording sessions with mom, bf and a bodyguard.
Video tape the whole session.

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

so insightful, mystic and peeps! love you.
go, kesha! i love that even just one person’s choice to stand against the patriarchal bullshit makes a difference; more and more will gain the courage to do it because it’s so obvious that support is out there. it’s obviously ludicrous that corporations maintain their rights over human beings so often and i want it to end already; at the same time i think it’s so cool to see these little shifts. like tectonic plates. soon enough there will be an earthquake. isn’t that what this pluto in cap era is all about?

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

first time I’ve seen a tattoo ON A PALM!

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

i love the idea of a palm tat!

Circe Baby
Circe Baby

they fade fast, which is a good and a bad thing!

tw:leoMM Member
tw:leo

oh, i suppose it would! such a tat could serve as a reminder to stay haute during a particular era and fade away, leaving a small trace which would then serve as a prompt to evoke useful feelings from that time <3

davidlMM Member
davidl

The court case is important but secondary. She’s winning a more important battle. The battle we all fight every day. That is to value ourselves, value our birthright of dignity, safety and peace. Justice is a beautiful thing, for both sides, to bring someone to it and to be brought to it. Justice is healing for all parties involved. Confucius said justice and punishment should be like a thunderstorm. The energy builds to breaking followed by thunder and lightning, then the release of rain. It then just as quickly fades away. No holding on. My take is that Keisha has… Read more »

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I think it’s a strong stand, but disappointed that corporations rights outweigh hers.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Incredible Saturn return story. Gotta love that Saggitarius energy, speaking the truth no matter who tries to put up the wall to silence it. And that album cover is fantastic – the power, the rich colors, the vibrancy from the ether in metallic iron form.

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

She has a Saturn tattoo on her palm!! Google “Kesha Saturn tattoo”, it pops up right away… she got it last year to commence Saturn into sagg and her Saturn return.

I (also Saturn in late sagg) am going through similar themes lately, ugh not fun…but getting real

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Wow! Having had Saturn in Scorpio in her 12H conjoining her Pluto, opposing her Mars certainly brought up ugly but necessary truths to the surface. I imagine Saturn crossing her ASC into Sag for good after that gruesome last retro solidified things for her, her decision to battle publicly for the truth. After all, she is Sag Saturn 1H – “the truth shall set you free”? Now, Mars treading the same path of that Saturn transit is like steamrolling the road she chose to take. Mars conjunct Pluto opposite her natal Mars makes things difficult for her, it’s a question… Read more »

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

I remember that “era”. I remember being in denial of things. Having so-called “mentors” try to twist my head and make me believe I was disconnected from intuition and power.

Keep going. Stay committed to your truth. Emancipation from many aspects is nigh but first, one has to go through it all. Every single nasty drop of it.

Goddess speed <3

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Kesha, you are not alone – I feel a hashtag coming on:)

supakaliMM Member
supakali

#freeKesha is a thing!

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

cool. I’m in!

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I do like yours! Please start it. It needs to be tweeted!

Jokerman
Jokerman

The rich, powerful, senior ppl are always right even when their wrong. Look at George Pell, even Minchin can’t make him feel shame. Hope she wins it.

“makes you feel ashamed to live in a land [the West] where justice is a game”
(you know who)

Circe Baby
Circe Baby

I had a “mentor” like this early in my career also.

Many of the strongest women I know still had to learn how to say no and not feel guilty.

Learning how to say no without rousing violence or ridicule is actually an art form.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

indeed.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

It is an art form and there’s still fall-out from it. Some people do not take rejection well.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

lol, you mean like shrivelled old patriarchs who couldn’t get laid if not for their power within the hierarchy? Hierarchy is just another word for patriarchy IMO and I’m so over that whole ‘if you’re so smart how come you have no money or power and I”ve got loads of it? That Gloria Steinhem example of how language hamstrings us is so pertinent, like how would YOU like to study really hard and get a Spinster or Arts degree, or a Mistress of Science title? It’s so entrenched, it’s in our LANGUAGE, meaning it influences the way we THINK on… Read more »

Feathered FishMM Member
Feathered Fish

So true

Rebs
Rebs

Interesting, I was just thinking that the other day. Well said.

Feathered FishMM Member
Feathered Fish

As a woman who’s been in the workforce for a while, nearly every boss I’ve had, not to mention others, through my working life have hit on me…guys can say its benign and you can say no, but when you are young and at the bottom of the totem there is pressure and tension in that interaction. Power to Kesha for taking a stand on this shiz!

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

not just bosses, every straight male, shrink even too!
It’s an epidemic of patriarchal abuse.
Our acquiescence is so socially and behaviorally entrenched.
In some cases, women simply wouldn’t have gotten a CHANCE had we not colluded at the beginning of our careers. This creates shame, guilt much like childhood sexual abuse survivors, or rape victims, the accusation that we “wanted it” are heavy in the air as we break the silence.
Once the days of keeping shtum are over, and even despair is powerless to destroy, those honchos had better watch their backs.
Butts will be kicked, and honeybunny old boy; stilettos HURT!

syrynxMM Member
syrynx

Another, *Amen*, Invicta. Truth.

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

*clapping emoji*
Honestly, so many times i just have not had the energy or the social aptitude to fight back without causing waves that could be detrimental to my life and so shutting down and accepting the shittiness was the easier and better path. I agree with you, I think there’s a shame that came with it that I had not realized the magnitude of until lately.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Indeed, me neither. Thanks to all the Pilates I’m doing, this new, or perhaps regained core strength, flexibility, and my penchant for wearing heels mean I can kick patriarchal ass with so much more stealth than I ever could before. Why did I need to show my strength with muscularity which is bordering on mascularity? Yes, I know mascularity is not a real word but y’all know what I mean. Standing there looking Taylor Swift-y and smiling sweetly, means when my moment comes, I can swing that sharp roundhouse kick more precisely than I ever could before. And believe me,… Read more »

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

It’s not benign and you can say no and also be passed over for promotions and be let go/fired. Been there. Done That.
It took a huge hit on my career, but at least I manage my own career and run my own record label.
It happened again recently with a sleazy producer.
I feel bad for all the young women & men with stars in there eyes about success & fame.
18 is awfully young to sign a record deal.

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

Oh woman. Still you rise. Out of nights of shame, out of a past that’s rooted in pain. You are the hope and the dream of the slave. Rise. Rise. Rise.

fallenangelMM Member
fallenangel

Amen sister.

Circe Baby
Circe Baby

touche.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

excellent!

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