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Rene Magritte

So I just got sent this story about the battlefield anesthetic turned party drug ketamine being turned into an anti-depressant with the message “so Saturn-Neptune.” Yes, totes.

There will be all manner of reappraisal of drugs (Neptune = Drugs) with this aspect ongoing till late 2016. “The war on drugs is over and we lost it” seems to be a recurrent theme du jour.  I’ve just ordered some TruBrain so i’m on it already.

So enhance Neptunian visions with Saturnine tracking, smart supps and candor for a good time. Note how Saturn IS the Time God and your awareness of who or what is out of time/old-era is currently exquisite.

And we have another key player, at least till mid-December: Mars. In hardcore aspect to Uranus and Pluto. It’s a myth that Mars in Libra is somehow not effective, because of its opposition to Mars in Aries, the sign Mars rules. Mars in Aries may be more brazen, like that flamboyant fighter type doing burpees over in the corner. But Mars in Libra is just more tactical and subtle.

Understand: Mars-Pluto-Uranus is ready to regenerate the fuq out of your everything in December, completing with the crescendo of Uranus Direct over Xmas.

Thoughts? See December/Daily/Weekly Horoscopes for strategy, more of my take on this.

Bernard Languillier

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AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

I’m looking forward to the ‘war on drugs’ being over. It’s been a war against kids, the poor, the mentally unwell. People who need healing and help get jailed and find more drugs, more poverty, more illness and estrangement from society. Bring on harm reduction policies and an end to vilification.

On an aside, there’s also inklings of drug use becoming more normalised with the use of micro-dosing: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/how-lsd-microdosing-became-the-hot-new-business-trip-20151120

supakaliMM Member
supakali

The non-White….

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

Yes. The war on drugs is another way of perpetuating inequality. No one is helped. So many people are harmed.

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Wow, that is fascinating. I used to take quarter tabs of acid when younger- was too chicken to take the whole hit. “Enhanced reality” is how it felt, and it felt awesome.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Yeah. Micro dosing though can be a sure fire way of long term habitual addiction. My policy is go hard under controlled conditions very occasionally. Going hard means you can’t help but drop all your control mechanisms and fully ride the wave. It also means that the next day or week or month or year you can not only recall the high but the physical consequences after the high. A bit like a built in aversion therapy. Also with LSD the recommended dosage is a micro dose. So the product must be manufactured correctly or you can easily take say… Read more »

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

Wow I can’t imagine going as hard as that author has! I like my ego – we’re friends – and am quite happy to wait until the ‘big day’ to say goodbye to it.

Totes agree about the likelihood of habitual addiction from microdosing, but then at that level of consumption it seems comparable to my morning coffee.

AlouettaMM Member
Alouetta

Wouldn’t that be nice?

moonstarkMM Member
moonstark

Eeeek. Uranus is still pretty much on my mars (17aries), so this will be my mars opposition mixing it up with these zap zone players. So not into confrontation (pisces rising) but i guess it’s my path~ as an aries NN. scurred.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Hey Moonstark is your avatar an part of an Egon Schiele drawing ?

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I am natally very Martian-Uranian-Plutonic so I welcome this kind of energy. It feels fantastic, like nothing can stop me. Trying to puzzle through dilemmas such as ‘do I need a new job’ etc and the old answers are just not good enough, nothing short of a whole new paradigm is acceptable to me now. Interesting, I’ve had a bit of an aha moment around my weight loss. For the past six months I’ve been obsessing about ‘getting back’ to where I was three years ago before Hell Period: i.e. if I can fit into those clothes and look like… Read more »

annica
annica

Wow melody beattie has written a lot of books. Just checked out from the library a daily meditations book by her.

moonstarkMM Member
moonstark

oh wow, i just saw that book at the thrift store yesterday. Didn’t get it but maybe i’ll go back & purchase. thanks for the heads up! i’m neptune-ruled & undergoing my 1st saturn return so obvs need all the guidance i can get.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini

Note: Melodie Beatie is mostly known for the classic Codependent No More. An excellent self help book for …love zombies, -covering a large rterrain of dysfunctional relationships. Some editions have a really corny cover, but it is a go-to book if you are caught up in unhealthy relationship patterns.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Yeah I was introduced to her work about ten years ago when I did therapy to help with the aftermath of growing up with an alcoholic. I really like the books of hers I’ve read – down to earth, pulls no punches, honest and inspiring.

PiMM Member
Pi

I actually miss smoking weed. i need to find some non-children-ed, non-straight, decently chilled friends to do more of this. sure beats a hangover..

PiMM Member
Pi

non straight as in people who actually smoke , not the other straight lol

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)

I wish all the time that weed gave me the same effects all my friends report getting from it, I would be smoking it like they do (aka all the effing time lol). But I just get anxiety. I’ve tried to “overcome” it because it’s so much better than a hangover but alas, that one just doesn’t work for me.

annica
annica

Same here. Not everybody has the same chemistry. You have have some broken SNPs for detox. I do and even green tea is a no-no for me in large qty.

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Yeah me too, cannot do weed at all, instant paranoia

davidlMM Member
davidl

What’s that noise ! 😉

Jokerman
Jokerman

I was too stoned to worry about that sort of stuff

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Weed never much agreed with me either… sent me hugely paranoid and I never had a good experience. Other drugs I was too chicken to try. My brain chemistry is dodgy at best, I am prone to addiction and I’m pretty sure I would have ended up in a gutter, dead or in jail.
I am so boring – despite the damage I know alcohol does, red wine is my drug of choice.

gemyogi
gemyogi

Champagne or a good cocktail for me — always good if I apply the three drink max rule.

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

That’s the bit I have trouble with GY 🙂

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

me too! at times I forget to stop — always regret it next day with a hangover 🙁

davidlMM Member
davidl

Total opposite for me. Must be the middle eastern genes. Literally one alcoholic drink and I’m a goner. I think with grass and other drugs it’s important to sort of set the scene, appropriate time, place and people. One of the other issues is the way the drug has been grown or handled. Grass in the 70s was home grown or at least grown in a field usually by some hippy up near Mullimbimby etc. Now it’s all hydro and genetically modified, grown in some factory under lights, the industry run by drug cartels etc. People need to be more… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

“I remember when the world was young,…..”

Do you remember the joy of Sinsemilla heads?….with the little purple bits?
I was a member of of NORML and HEMP.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Yes 🙂 Do you remember Buddha sticks ?

Jokerman
Jokerman

Oh, Buddha yes, and hash blocks.
A mate of mine (’79) brought a hash block for $25.As he opened it, to ready it, I said that’s a Fisherman’s Friend.
Ya shoulda seen him get the refund (I remember he was a Virgo).
I was rarely straight for 5 years. Maybe 60 days at the most. No-one outsmoked me.

We went to visit Don Dunstan, Australia’s best premier, one night and he was not home. So we just mulled up in his front yard. Then we found out he was overseas; dang!

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

That’s what’s so wonderful about legalization- here in Oregon, you can not only choose the strain (and therefore the kind of experience you wish to have, roughly), but you know where and how it’s grown. So civilized.

annica
annica

Yes i wish they would legalize most drugs except meth. Meth is pretty evil…destroys houses and people. If a property ever becomes a meth lab you can’t ever live there w/o a serious hazmat remediation. I read a story about a family buying a foreclosed house thinking it is a normal fixer upper but they get ill, almost die from living there even after normal clean up. Plus any drug that makes low income people slave away harder at their jobs is…just no.

davidlMM Member
davidl

The first time I heard about ketamine was late 80s. People were doing some research on experiences of drug users across a variety of drugs and societies. One area of the research was matching experiences that were common amongst the study group. By far the most interesting results were amongst ketamine users, a lot of them just one time users. The experience was that after taking a fair dose usually by themselves, they started to perceive a parallel reality. Small people about 2 ft tall and not human would sort of appear and immediately start explaining to the subject not… Read more »

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Graham Hancock in ‘Supernatural, meetings with the Ancient Teachers of mankind ‘ documents study groups (including himself) using different types of drugs with significant cultural/historical use eg ayahuasca in South America, some type of digitalis which I think used by the bushmen of the kalahari desert, peyote (I had a mescal vision once! 🙂 ) and some others. He writes that the visions related to each hallucinogen seemed to be connected to a particular entity/dimension, and this was supported by the results of the study, where different users described encounters containing similar details of what the entities looked like, and… Read more »

davidlMM Member
davidl

The South Americans have probably been doing aya for thousands of years. So many experiences recorded and strong cultural connections that can’t help but Influence the initiate.
The thing that astounded me was that with ketamine in the 80s there is no cultural. religious or historical references to guide you. No teachers.
Referred to as a horse tranquilizer. To then gain awareness of a parallel universe in common with other users even as weird and funny as these little beings surely proves thet even man made drugs have huge potential for the expansion of consciousness and awareness.

VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

i agree, this is the fascinating part! the ‘visions’ people get when in altered states of mind are usually connected to the prevalent mythology/cosmology. like the aya users would expect an experience of a certain kind. i don’t have a lot of experience with lsd, but my firend’s ex-husband was dealing quite a lot, and they had an opportunity to see that people dropping acid are usually seeing the same mmm effects, such as certain people turn into something or acquire certain qualities etc. BUT if there’s a group of people and if what they use are two different kinds… Read more »

Plutocrat
Plutocrat

I am going through all of Pickover’s books. My brain is like a crazed dry sponge for his words. A trip.

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

I need to find the book again, but as I recall he was doing the experiments at a university, with different students, so for eg. not In South America with the Aya, and being lab conditions, therefore test subjects didn’t know which one they were taking. Have only tried LSD twice, and fortunately they were really positive experiences, the first being at a beautiful remote beach with my partner when I was 20 years old. My consciousness cracked WIDE open to the intense beauty of nature around me, from the ants near my feet to the radiant sky and the… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

My first trip I took at 11:00pm and at 2:00am. I was about to ask the guy I brought the disc off for my $6 back and I got of the couch and as I rose up all these colours landed on my nose. I was away….

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

I want to try magic mushies too, just need the right time and place 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

I tried all that stuff many moons ago. Psyloscybin is not so good for your health. Aft 3rd season I was done with it.
As was my acid days many many moons ago

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Yes, I don’t plan on doing it a lot, but once or twice when the spirit moves me will be enough.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

You remind me of my first lsd experience.
It was at a bush doof and I saw a big tree covered in crystals shining all the colours of the rainbow hung like apples. It was so beautiful I cried!

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

I actually think I will do a painting of that image. I can see it in my mind’s eye.
HOW beautiful.

davidlMM Member
davidl

I prefer mushrooms by far. My first gold top found growing in a huge pile of cow manure and eaten fresh was like a veil had been lifted, I glowed green and the bush environment around me came alive with nature spirits. As the dusk came I lay back and watched the sky come alive. I was with another person close by but we didn’t really talk much until we started coming back and then we just laughed for hours. That laughing was so therapeutic Such a release. Once a year is plenty. Blue meanies are good too, but not… Read more »

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Lots of my friends ate them when I was young, though I never did at the time.

I feel that I would get a lot more out of the experience now, think it helps if you are in a good space mentally, and a good place physically, come to think of it. In or connected to nature.
Would hate to do it at a house party in the city…

VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

I only started experimenting with substances after getting a child, a solid sense of self and a great support network. Saturn on the Ascendant, lol)))
but it was very much worth it. i’m not sure i will be taking anything hallucinatory ever again (i got pretty much all i wanted + i’m in a materialistic nesting phase now), but I am very glad it happened at that moment of my life when i was at peace with myself, so not too early

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Not a chemist here, but just thinking it through, crystals contain a certain structure and all those structures can occur in nature. Maybe as plants elevate people to certain levels, the structure of a crystal or chemical could help people travel to certain ‘places’ dimensions or whatever. As in, a thing may not occur naturally, but the shapes of the drug at a molecular or whatever level, may occur ‘naturally’ in a given environment? I would love to do all these ‘enhancers’, but I think I will wait till the universe shoves it in my face. Before I could ‘hear… Read more »

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Have you seen doco on ‘The Spirit molecule?’ You can type it into youtube, and there is also book, link below basically open -ended research about whether DMT can actually connect the user to dark matter/parallel universe. I had once had a bad trip on ecstasy actually, thought I was going to die and had to lie down under a tree. Felt terribly alone in the world, despite that had a kind boyfriend there trying to settle me down. On reflection I don’t think those types of experiences work well for me if I have underlying unease or issues, as… Read more »

annica
annica

Zomg so the little people are real? Fuck.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

🙂 For sure! Why not? Lol.

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

Haha, my cousin saw a textbook classic gnome while looking out the window to her backyard, 2 feet high, twinkly brown eyes etc. Though she wasn’t on hallucinogens, it was a fairly normal weekday afternoon until then

skarabMM Member
skarab

From Terence McKenna an ethnobotanist and drug taker researcher and philosopher:

http://non-aliencreatures.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Elf

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

That is so funny!!!! Love it.
I tend to think that everything has it’s own integrity and sense of self, even the micro bacteria in our own bodies. Perhaps the machine elves are ‘us’ on some level?
Or perhaps they are the what actions the matrix into existence but we perceive them as beings? In any case, whatever we perceive them to be, I would vote for them having their own sense of life/self.
Thx for this, I am book marking it!

skarabMM Member
skarab

yer welcome. You would love the book i mentioned above by Pickover. Covers so much of this….*sex drugs einstein & elves* … free too.

leogroover
leogroover

so MM esteemed PIAB’s where should I look on my chart today for the worst possible aspects that created the worst poss day .
Losing $20 meh
getting an unexpected $900 bill for a total f *up on my part
fight with bestie again after full moon hooch fight last week
frustration at not hearing about job
waiting waiting for builder to get back to me
the pergatory of not knowing whether to just piss off bush and live simply or wait for all the planets to line up

If I knew it was coming I would’ve stayed under the bed
What should I be looking at?
thx LG

PiMM Member
Pi

the pillow, babe, better luck tomorrow
I often think of pegasus’s advice times like this:
drink two glasses of water
and/or
walk 2 blocks
and/or
2 deep breaths
and so on
XX

leogroover
leogroover

Thx Pi
drink ,walk ,sleep,repeat
but what aspects am I look at thet cause this apart from my own stupidity.

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)

Sometimes life is just like that. *sigh* I’ve been doing everything “right” for a minute now and am in that purgatory zone like you are getting financially beat over the head by random stuff while I wait for career change to take off e.g. a fix-it ticket on a car that then broke so I couldn’t take in which turned into a $700 fine. Basically did a freelance patent thing just to hand it all over to the government yesterday. GRRRR. Take a break and cry it out then get up again tomorrow and do a few things that point… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Hugs LG you sound pretty worn down by this. Look, I am no astro expert and tend to be of the ‘go to bed early, have a good cry and tomorrow is another day’ mindset. BUT as regards your chart – when I’ve had similar sitches going on it has been squares. Continual pressure forcing you to make choices… that sounds like a square to me. What’s happening on your 1st/7th and 2nd/8th houses? I just had a similar situ financially and after crying for two days I just got up and started doing things. Found a financial adviser, reviewed… Read more »

leogroover
leogroover

Thx Chys yep today is better. few things have fallen into place.
i did have 4 squares that day and neptune in 1st Moon in 7th and Jup and mars in 8tth. mmmwill look em up.
Things are never as bad they seem at the time. LG xx

VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

And actually! I was reading on the Salem witch trials lately. There’s a theory that the visions/sensations that have started the whole thing were caused by ergotism, as in the grain-loving fungus that causes hallucinations poisoning.
I checked and – ta-dam! – the whole thing was happening in the dawn of a saturn-neptune square when saturn was in sag and neptune in pisces.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Thats really interesting ! I remember at school being taught about whole towns in Europe who ate from the same bakery. If the flour was off, the mould ? growing on it basically sent the whole town into psychedelic melt down. And killing a few. The witches would have known how to use ergot in its correct dosage for a more positive experience. Like flying around on brooms and getting high while cooking up some new brew.
A bit like modern biker gangs 🙂

VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

Gives a new dimension to the Virgo-Pisces axis, right? Virgo standing for grains and Pisces for psychedelia))

Jokerman
Jokerman

Bordering on “Pretzel Logic”

skarabMM Member
skarab
ElectroMM Member
Electro

Yes! I have heard of this but I just realized how it correlates to my recent kombucha mold issue. Weird. I got this horrible stomach thing that I believe was exacerbated by the mold that I didn’t catch in time (I double ferment in smaller bottles). This all coincided with the Saturn Neptune Square.

annica
annica

Do you ever talk to your kombucha when it is fermenting? I find that it will tell you when it is “unhappy” as it does not like to share space with mold.

electro
electro

No, I don’t but I will start. I cover it with a cloth and leave it in the corner of the counter. I’m also going to try increasing from one week to two week ferments and adding a little more sugar.

VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

Everyone is on something these days! It never crossed my mind to connect it to sat-nep. Being a very, very occasional user of anything illicit, i had an accidental pre-od episode with some version of mdma this october, that left me super-low AND led me to discover the 5-HTP supplement (Griffonia simplicifolia) to refill on serotonin. So since then most of my friends have tried 5-HTP, most of them liked it and then decided that it’s a cool thing to have in the drawer just in case, but that it feels strange and inappropriate to take it every day. So… Read more »

scorpiodawnMM Member
scorpiodawn

trubrain looks gd. always loving my supps! and totally up for regeneration, woo hoo!

Alice B
Alice B

testing

PiMM Member
Pi

How many of the Saturn shoulder sufferers do regular upper body free movement? I find that this desk job and wayyyy too much recreational laptop time fuqs all shoulder and neck movement. As soon as I regularly go swimming, yoga things, heat e.g. saunas, gym for muscular support and core strength (better posture) any or all of those things (sigh I wish), neck gets better . Also attuning self to tension undercurrents. Also keeping warm ie cold draughtd and hunched shoulders. Feel better soon peeps x

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Pilates for a year and more recently, gym work have sorted my Saturn neck/shoulder issues. I stretch at work, I have a standing desk – all of these things in combo have helped. Stasis is a killer.

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)

Pilates and barre class help my Saturn shoulder (the right). Yoga is more unpredictable and often jacked it up more.

Continuum classes are excellent for sorting out this sort of thing, it’s almost chaotic movement letting the body move how it wants.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I do daily morning yoga and take weekly (or more) baths. I don’t sit much, I’m up & down at work, and when I’m on the computer, it’s on a stand-up desk. My husband is also good for a massage. This is the first time I’ve felt pain in this spot – I missed a few yoga mornings and lazed around a lot over the Thanksgiving weekend. Probably helped bring it on.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

What can I take for this Saturn shoulder? It’s busted up from trying to force my way out of this hard ass chrysalis.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Love that, “hard ass chrysalis”!! Brilliant.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Thx. I could say it’s rebirthing pains, but chrysalis sounds way better.

The mermaid clinging to my feet and father time pulling me by the arms.

HoudiniMM Member
Houdini
R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

Oh yes I was reading about that last week! It is an amphetamine, a stronger adderall. I have also read that meth labs have been found in ISIS camps that were taken over.

It makes sense that they are on crazy amphetimes to do the dehumanizing stuff they do. I can imagine if I was pushed to join against my will the drugs would be a comfort too. Very messed up situation

cortazone
cortazone

explains why they do and can do they mad crazy shit they do.. BUT worlds scriest drug EVER KROKODIL – check it out on vice – seriously, scariest thing u ever did see!

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica

I read an article where the Kurdish female fighters describe how the Daesh soldiers are forced to take drugs to get them to fight…

VeronicaMM Member
Veronica
cortazone
cortazone

Vietnam = LSD

davidlMM Member
davidl

Meth was invented in Japan before WW2. Both the German and Japanese armies were given high doses on a regular basis. Hitler himself was a serious meth user. It’s effects of course are well documented in the behaviour, endurance and cruelty of both of these armies.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Didn’t know that, v. interesting.
Enforced psychosis, Neptune doesn’t seem to fit here… 🙁

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I am not surprised – I have to say I just assumed that since the dawn of time armies must have been dispensing drugs of some kind to make people do what they have to do in war.

bull with sting in tail
bull with sting in tail

meh.

davidlMM Member
davidl

Amphetamine, discovered before methamphetamine, was first synthesized in 1887 in Germany by Romanian chemist Laz?r Edeleanu who named it phenylisopropylamine.[122][123] Shortly after, methamphetamine was synthesized from ephedrine in 1893 by Japanese chemist Nagai Nagayoshi.[124] Three decades later, in 1919, methamphetamine hydrochloride was synthesized by pharmacologist Akira Ogata via reduction of ephedrine using red phosphorus and iodine.[125] During World War II, methamphetamine was sold in tablet form under the brand name Pervitin, produced by the Berlin-based Temmler pharmaceutical company. It was used extensively by all branches of the German armed forces (Luftwaffe pilots, in particular) for its performance-enhancing stimulant effects and… Read more »

bull with sting in tail
bull with sting in tail

“Both the German and Japanese armies were given high doses on a regular basis”

Playground myth making. Japanese expeditionary forces couldnt even get food and ammunition to support their southeast asian expansionism. where their “cruelty” was at its worst

Yep whole armies were given HIGH Doses, not just a hit for fatigue.

just too silly to for a grown man to promulgate, nothing racist going on here, no, ahem

davidlMM Member
davidl
davidlMM Member
davidl
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpioMM Member
VenusInCancerMarsInScorpio

My ex-man’s great-grandfather was a soviet pilot. He HAD to have some amphetamine-like something in pill form, but it was rarely used. Only in times of sleep deprivation to help focus.

davidlMM Member
davidl
davidlMM Member
davidl
Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

This explains a lot of the bizarre activities that took place.

Twin-geminiMM Member
Twin-gemini

Hmm – use of drug for horses instead of healing with Chiron and actually empowering peeps that way. Maybe for some – who is not ready and there is a lot of them.
As for Xmas – news will be full of car crashes on the roads and maybe it will rain, like for a week and flood again.
Sorry to be negative, but I work in retail and become more like Grinch every year around Xmas.

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)

The worst of my depression symptoms went away after I had a direly needed root canal (have a Google: “is depression caused by an infection?” for a great article by NPR explaining that) but before that happened I was seriously considering doing IV ketamine therapy which I was shocked to find out is legal! But very expensive. My ex the biochemist who ran a pharmaceutical development company once looked at the chemical structure of ketamine and said it was very similar to all the new breed of antidepressants being developed but not yet on the market. I know some people… Read more »

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

My 6th House is loving all your medical info Raqua Taurii! Also I was wondering if people would go to the lengths of self medicating not the streets.

seawitchmermaidMM Member
seawitchmermaid

So true. I am seeing how certain people are draining me. The negativity is not mine but I’m getting it by proxy. Trying to clear/shield/keep my boundaries as best I can for now. Oh qi vamps.

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Yea, the Mars/Pluto smackdown has me nervous…but viva l’evolution right?

Ldub
Ldub

Sun conjunct Uranus in Libra here, ready to par-Tay. ?????

Ldub
Ldub

Haha my emojis turned to question marks, silly thing.

annica
annica

Same. I’ll have whatever you are having! 🙂

annica
annica

So much love for that mounted archer! The poise! The concentration!

All is nerve wracking right now.
I spoke up and defended a personal ethical boundary of mine when the easier path would’ve been to go along with the flow with this man i have been on an uneasy and complicated path for months now. Have i doomed my chances by speaking the truth or will this bring us closer i wonder?

Universe, it would be super kind of you to reward me for speaking the truth just this once, instead of putting coal in my stocking.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Definitely loving that photo!

Thanks for the words & laugh (“not an art collector”) earlier, annica. Yep: feeling much of that. x

annica
annica

🙂

PiMM Member
Pi

If saying what is true for you spells doom for the relationship then it was clearly not the right relationship for you! X it has to work for you not just him. Xx

PiMM Member
Pi

oh right ok i think you’ve allowed for this, 🙂

annica
annica

It isn’t much of an actual “real/expected” relationship tbh despite the fact that he confessed his love for me back in June. He is the first man i have felt anything for in almost 6 yrs. part of me is afraid I will never have another opportunity to feel like this again. But yes, that is exactly why I told him that. It is the curse of not being able to lie to yourself. Damn my infp brain. It is like i am doomed to fail in relationships. It looks great on paper and it IS great for sleeping with… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Yep. I get this. I dumped someone once and for all because of a persistent disrespected boundary issue. My standards were being violated despite making myself clear about what was ok with me and in the end I had to make the tough call. Guess what – no reward has materialised, no applause came from the universe, no Mr Fabulous has swanned in 🙂 I sleep alone when Mr Not Quite Right was offering just about everything – except something that really mattered to me. OK this is none of my business so tell me to fuq off if you… Read more »

annica
annica

No ,not married, but he was and is still living with his girlfriend who got him involved in a sex cult. 🙁 it would have been unethical to date him before he got set up with this girl because of job thing timing, but job thing is no longer an issue currently. He is going through his Saturn return right now. After my last stint of trying to help someone going through that back in 2006-08 era, i am like nope. Men have to figure it out for themselves or they will blame you or never grow up. Rite of… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Ah that does sound very full-on. No chorus of anything from me – you sound pretty smart and you’ve obviously thought it through.
I hear you re ‘get out there’. What does it even mean anymore? I have done the online thing and it was a comical disaster. For now I’m just living my life and working on emotional self-sufficiency.
x

annica
annica

Lol. I am pretty book smart but my emotional IQ is the pits sadly which is why I end up like this. At least i didnt jump in hormones ablazing… Too true. So over online dating. I do admire my friends who do manage to find prospects online and in person though. I don’t know what they do that is different other than be pushier and more determined. I just don’t like most people i meet enough to do that. I also feel like it is let down when they decide it isnt working out that they ghost ppl w/o… Read more »

annica
annica

Oh and right you are that sometimes, there is not a blue ribbon or gold cup that comes out of the sky to tell us we made the right choice. Actually most of the time. My life frequently resembles a horrible game show where every door i pick is loaded with rubbish instead of a prize.

When i am in better spirits, i like to jokingly remind myself that “if your path is obstacle free and clear you are probably standing in someone else’s path”.

Uranus square moon
Uranus square moon

LOL. Annica, I can so relate to everything you’ve said – including your original post. I deleted a long time “love interest” on Facebook recently. It was going nowhere and there are some things I simply can NOT tolerate – people with no manners (blame my venus in Libra). And I can’t be friends (Pluto/Uranus conjunct) because he wasn’t trying at all to actually be one. Anyway I realised recently that having principles and standards just means you end up alone. Maybe not everyone but me. It seems. Oh well. So be it. *shrugs* PS. Also this guy (Multi Saggo,… Read more »

annica
annica

Esp Sagg men!

annica
annica

Omg one of my friends married a saturn-venus 12th houser who is a Sagg sun. They are divorced now. The sex wasnt all that good according to her and he ended up later marrying a girl who looks like a dead ringer for his sister. Creepy! He was all about forbidden love in weird ways.

Uranus square moon
Uranus square moon

OMG. No way!
“forbidden love in weird ways”
Sounds about right from what I’ve read about venus in 12th and from what I experienced sleeping with him just the once.
Like he actually jumped off mid horizontal tango like he was disgusted with himself or something. It’s not normal behaviour.

And he doesn’t masturbate apparently, he sublimates his desires. Pfffft. Whatevrrrr. I have a packed 8th house. I have desires. Nothing wrong with that 🙂

skarabMM Member
skarab

Yes – LOVE that pic. My new screen saver. Thanks Mystic.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Love that bottom pic!

Bit nervous about Christmas being on a full moon and this whole Uranus direct thing.
I only have Lilith in Aqua and my Uranus is in the 4th house.
This means I am going to Xmas with a plan. A plan to shut up!

As to the war on drugs, why of course it works!
Where would the prison industrial complex be without it?
Such handy slave labour…
And how would the US government fund their special operations without congress overseeing the money?

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Saturn I suppose is about gaols, labourers or slaves, borders, limitations, the patriarchy.. Neptune ruling large institutions? Not sure about that, but certainly deceit and trickery.

Anyway, not to be a negative nelly, I will now meditate on this world being a place where this is no longer possible. Om.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Sometimes we must let it out to let it go 😉

annica
annica

That world would be devoid of people. As long as there are people there will always be something… 🙂 hopefully maybe more peaceful and cooperative solutions? I dunno. It is thought provoking for sure.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Haha, so it would! A wish for peace is a wish for unpeopled planet, lol?!

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Ever watch the X-Files episode where Mulder asks the genie for Peace on Earth? He was the only living soul left.

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

I haven’t! But that is awesome, lol.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

A plan to shut up lol. My plan for xmas is to get one. I’d ask Santa for a plan but Saturn sq Neptune = that’ll never happen.

Hey thanks for your input over yonder, Sphinx. Good food for thought. x

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

xx darling!

PiMM Member
Pi

I reckon Neptune and prisons are old buddies. Institutions in terms of the transpersonal, how we behave as a mass, not individuals. Surrender, and so on. We can imprison minds (addictions, delusions, lies, illness) as well as bodies…

sphinxMM Member
sphinx

Yes indeed, the prison of the mind into this very narrow bandwidth of perception is so .. pernicious a habit.
Quite addictive and hard to break the addiction to materialist world perception.
There really needs to be a rehab clinic for Materialist World View Addiction.

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