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Β Dear Mystic,

I needed to show you this photo – took it in a small bavarian town in Germany and
flipped a little when I saw it. The signs mean something like “Saturn street” and “Neptune alley”.
The Saturn/Neptune-Crossroads…how appropriate is that!
With a Pisces Moon, Virgo Venus/Mercury and Gemini North Node/Chiron, I could sit and meditate for days under that signpost. πŸ™‚

Thank you for your guidance through this and best wishes to you,
Eva

Dear Eva,

Thank YOU. For those of you who don’t know – Saturn in square aspect to Neptune is the astrological signature of the next year. There is more about it on the Sagittarius Now Mp3 and in the Horoscopes, obviously.

The last time we had Saturn-Neptune energy to this extent was 2006/2007 and the first official ping of it is in late November. As in…soon.

So actually i don’t see Saturn/Neptune as SO much of a crossroads, as such. I think if you go down either street with your head held high and not, like, drunk or something, they MEET.Β  Yes.

Saturn and Neptune are not enemies.Β  Sure, it can seem like they are if you stay up till 3am on the Lilac Wine and then have to rise to gloom over your books with the accountant at 8am.

But think of Saturn and Neptune in square this way. Neptune in Pisces is performance enhanced by Saturn. Never before will your psychic powers, surreal insights, inspiration and grandiose dreams have been so pumped. Saturn as steroids/peptides for Neptune.

But Saturn in Sagittarius is even more radically candid than, well, anything. So just as you hone your Neptune vision to the most exquisitely poignant clarity, along comes spoilsport Saturn with some pointed viability facts. Reality not so biting as ripping into the flesh piranha style.

Still, if you’re not on a total lower Neptune bender, you can see how this could work, right? Big dreams, backed by Saturn in honesty mode.

Of course, it is a disaster (literally – “against the stars” ) for when you’re willfully peddling delusions, waiting for some ghost to materialize or have gambling as your investment strategy.Β  Late November will be an extremely interesting phase. If you go down Saturn St you run into Neptune Boulevard and vice versa.

Thoughts?

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Silvers
Silvers

Cool. I’ve got an art show on, running til Feb called Time!
& after an upbeat convo with my recently left artist mate & a medium last week, it turns out there is a ghost who’d like to materialise, any time, so waiting for a ghost to appear isn’t always a dud idea. πŸ˜€

Jokerman
Jokerman

Totes off the post topic.
But Neil Young has his birthday today.
“Shelter me from the powder and the finger.
Cover me with the thought that pulled the trigger
Just think of me as one you’ve never figured….”

My dreams run to this stuff…

davidl
davidl

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children crying
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature’s
Silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature’s

Jokerman
Jokerman

From ballads to grunge….
Has another elected to eclecticity,
with or without electricity,
with such hecticity.

That is a beautiful song DL no more so than with L Ronstadt n friends singing it.

Baristagem
Baristagem

‘Neptune in Pisces is performance enhanced by Saturn. Never before will your psychic powers, surreal insights, inspiration and grandiose dreams have been so pumped. Saturn as steroids/peptides for Neptune.’ Yeah! I’m a Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo 6th house with Pisces Rising. I’m way more tapped in my Saturn since learning more about it from MM & love long distance running, anything endurance & I’m there basically. I usually listen to my NepTUNE playlist, I know it’s cool & I renamed it after relaisng all of my running songs were Neptunian i.e electronica or downtempo; I can practically meditate while… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta

Yes I love running with a good soundtrack for inspiration! But I think my taste runs more to upbeat electronica. My favourite for getting my mojo back while sweating is SBTRKT’s Pharoahs. Damn them for selling it to GTA V πŸ˜›

Alouetta
Alouetta

Wrong emoticon! πŸ™

baristagem
baristagem

Great track! πŸ™‚

sphinx
sphinx

Excuse me, off topic, but is there a way to access the Astro hacks we are studying on the site? I am confused.
Or is it only accessed via email link?

Electro
Electro

I don’t see the link either but I’m sure it’ll be up soon. I’ve been using either the email link or the recent comments as a link.

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

I just type hack into the search bar – they come up in numerical order

Aqua-cap-Gemini
Aqua-cap-Gemini

I mean the search bar on this site! lol.. not google ;-P

sphinx
sphinx

Thanks guys, I asked MM herself and she said, “All the hacks are on the Resource Index Page, just bookmark it: https://mysticmedusa.com/99-astro-hacks/99-hacks-resource-index/

Feelin’ a bit foolish!

Electro
Electro

I thought you were talking about #26, which isn’t linked there yet. Don’t feel foolish, technology is just one of those things that sometimes eludes us.

Alouetta
Alouetta

This is great. I’ve been trying to visualize a pathway into a better future and these two influences are exactly what I need. Just gotta slow down and listen.

Electro
Electro

I have all sorts of Saturn and Neptune up in my grille. Neptune always on my moon and Saturn is on his way over, 7 degrees and counting. Neptune is trine my mid heaven, which is conjunct my Saturn! Oh, and Saturn is opposite my Mars, trine my sun, and trine my Uranus. Neptune sextiling Chiron. Ok, I’ll stop there. I feel the shift, slowly but surely. It can be overwhelming – I want to tackle one thing at a time, but no it has to be a juggling act. With swords. This dark moon was incredibly intense, right through… Read more »

rachel
rachel

2006 and 2007 were good years for me! I somehow bounced back from a bunch of trauma in 2004-2005 and lived on my own for the first time, had a great boyfriend who I still adore as a person, was young and dumb and doing fun superficial things like working the door at nightclubs and at makeup counters while going to school. Every setback or problem I just crashed right through and somehow made it all work. Young and reckless for sure. I’m coming up on Saturn return and feeling those themes for sure but one thing I am realizing… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Hey Rache 2005/2006 were good years for me too. I bounced back after the biggest financial crash (but creative success) of my life to date (at that time) and bought myself a sweet place right opposite my favourite beach in Cape Town. Until then I’d never thought of myself as being able to afford to even rent in that neighborhood and suddenly I OWN a place right on the beach. It was beyond “dream come true” because I’d never even dreamed it. Selling it, and the other properties when I got married has been a major regret and I’ve found… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Yes I relate t this; I NEVER read instruction manuals…Then I do what has to be done, with no rules, my own way intuitively, except that this sometimes I must – as it does not suit the time, environment or people around…

Too much change; I’m too used to lack of solidity; a new school or home almost every year meant foundations that were highly unpredictable…

Its possible to thrive thinking on feet, but great to work with structure, highly useful, sagacious, resourceful!

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

2006-7 was a huge turning point in my life. Just one thing after the other. They were mostly exciting things that at the time were terrifying. Yes, there was a lot of dental work involved. I feel like I’ve spent the past 3-4 years shucking off stuff that wasn’t working, mourning for it, and learning to sit still in the middle of uncomfortable emotional storms… I’m curious to see what’s on deck.

LunaGreen
LunaGreen

Been staring at my chart for months. Can someone help me discern the upcoming transit up against my natal placements? I’m hazy & don’t know how to get on the right side of it.

Saturn is moving toward my natal neptune in Sag which is trine my natal Saturn in Leo.
Then we have Neptune squaring those guys in Sag and Quincunx my guy up in Leo.

Thank you so much for your insight.

LunaGreen
LunaGreen

I’m part of the Astro-Hacks crew but…I think Neptunes’ fog has rolled in. Can’t get my head around it.

LunaGreen
LunaGreen

Mars in Libra (on my Merc)…cut through the bull…I’m good now. I’ll just leave this here.

seawitchmermaid
seawitchmermaid

Beautiful photo, thanks for sharing. And I love the Saturn/Neptune insights. What WOULD we do without you, Mystic!

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I’ve been noticing delusional personalities at work and wondering how much I am them. One is a mega 8th house Scorp with Pisces rising (Neptune on her AC right now). She’s a bully and doesn’t at all see that in herself, but everyone on the team has had to endure months of being on her shit list, like some sort of right of passage. My Libra stellium is horrified. I have been put in charge of her, and she’s demanded my head, to no avail. And I have to look at her and see myself there too. So fuqing uncomfortable.… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Random thought probably for discussion purposes only. (Its the Venus Aries in me and possibly ice moon in cap), would you ever consider fronting her and saying exactly that? “Did you know that you behave like a bully in this office and your colleagues greatly dislike working with you? No? Lets talk”
Altjoug. Mind you a mega 8th house scorp is probably pretty comfortable with their MO maybe. Hit up the moon sign?

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Her moon is in 12th house Aqua, lol. She has no earth in her chart.

I am trying to provide the project structure, but her mega 8th house-ness thinks conspiracy and control.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Christ what a dream. And 12th Aqua. No don’t confront…will stolidly refuse to admit while not conceding a millimetre. Or inch, cos it will all be in old school imperial measurements.

You won’t change it. So clarify your boundaries. You’ll be doing it all the goddamn time, so might as well just start your inner work, which you’ve done in dreams already. No need to change yourself, just plan how you’ll manage it.

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Yeah. All day via email yesterday it was boundaries. The problem is the perception other people get which is that I am edging her on. Oh well.

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Give plenty of airy detached space for 12th house aquarian moon :-))

Best of luck…

skarab
skarab

Just realised that back in 2006/7, Neptune was also conjunct my Chiron. One of the worst times of my life. So much in the grip of delusion and hurtling down a catastrophic path. I still shudder. Thank god, or rather thank Saturn for saving me. (Ok, uncle Pluto was on the scene too – conjunct my Saturn for extra oomph). If i’m in a good space now, it’s thanks to Saturn, which has made me a lot more savvy towards Neptune vibes – which, right now, are being rather wonderful: trining my Sun, Neptune, AC, and sextile Saturn. Creative energy… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Theory: Jupiter is ruler of Sagittarius. Also, traditional ruler of Pisces. Could Jupiter help here? Is leaving a t-square with those 2 planets. So it’s still a bit mutable square-ish. But maybe is another way through?? No idea just ‘floating’ the idea… πŸ˜‰

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Named learning triangles? Speaking intuitively, I think so.

Pi
Pi

Yes it sort of makes sense. I read astro articles about dispositors, rulerships etc so there must be something in it.. x

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

There seems to be a lot on this, but found this quickly…

That would explain the sequence of some repeated lessons, challenges.

Sally Wilde
Sally Wilde

Yep, I’ve been tapping Jupiter as a helper here–cause it’s natal conjunct Saturn anyhow. For this square, Jupiter is in 4th/Virgo so I’ve been doing radical home and deep self reorganizing. Jupiter is loosely opposite Neptune in transit now though, so I’m remembering to work with pull and/or chemistry of that…it’s a good idea, I think, to find out what planets and positions have in common so we can all get along, game theory win-win style, says this libra πŸ˜‰

Pi
Pi

Oh gosh. yes. I’ve just realised what Jupiter is doing in my 3rd house. My phone is being a bit weird, I just had to have my car towed to the mechanic. My sister while picking up her little dog (Virgo or 6thhouse , pets) tripped and whacked her head on the stairs = a visit to emergency. My current work commute is officially Too Much. Lawd…it’s all starting to make sense… Jupes is amplifying

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Please don’t flipping SAY that! Saturn crossing my Neptune Jupiter Moon conjunction on the Sag Ascendant. I’m trying SO HARD to use Saturn to TONE IT DOWN. Oh god i can’t believe i used caps there, but i’ll let it stay cos you know, that is all the feels here.

If youse want some Jupiter, come on in and TAKE some of it. Heheh i grant it to you, naturally.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

You sure do πŸ˜‰

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Heheh Zeus, the ol’ preachy blowhard πŸ˜€

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Jupiter is mine this year or so, lol! Its currently cruising through my 12th with the NN backing onto my AC.

Jupiter is tricky. It will expand what you focus on. Astrologically speaking, there’s no sure luck. Some do haute, others do hate. I go to Saturn when I’m lost. Jupiter works better when I do. I’ve got a Jupiter-Saturn natal trine. When I do proper Saturn focus, Jupiter expands the stuff I want. If I get egotistical or delusional (non-Saturn), Jupiter expands the “didn’t see that shit coming” ness of it all.

Charles
Charles

I think that’s the address of the Weinkeller zur Schwarzen Katz.

skarab
skarab

Yes!
Directions via SatNav – voice maybe Orson Welles in German: “…. at end of Venus Vale turn right; take second left past Chiron Close into Mars Fields; at 2nd roundabout take left through cemetary into Pluto Place, keep to left and into Saturn Strase; warning – speed bumps for next 80 minutes. Turn right at 44th stop sign next to Marsh&Fog Pharmacy at corner with Neptuneweg…..”

Charles
Charles

My Waze GPS app recently offered a promotional voice for the Terminator movie premiere, it asked if I wanted to switch the voice to “Arnold.” Sure, it was funny for a while. Then I saw the movie and I thought gee maybe it isn’t such a good idea to carry around a portable GPS computer with a miniature Terminator AI connected to Skynet oops I mean Google Maps. The promotion ended after a few months and they deleted the Arnold voice. I kind of miss it, it added a sense of urgency to my driving. But it is probably better… Read more »

skarab
skarab

Haha! Mmmmm, Terminator …β€œI know where you’re going, and I will get you there… trust me”. Reassuring yet menacing. Scorp flavour?
Could do a whole astro series.
For example, Libra: “You could take the next street on the left, or if you prefer, the second – it’ll take 5 mins longer, but it’s so much nicer with all those lovely trees…”

Jokerman
Jokerman

Aries: Fuq, why didnt you turn when l told you.
Pisces: You know there is this other way l know.

Charles
Charles

Yeah, it uses that exact phrase. Arnold recorded a small library of interjections along with street directions. When you depart, it says something like “Come with me if you want to live.” Then it snarls out driving directions in that thick Austrian accent. Then it says, “we’ve arrived. Hasta la vista, baby.”

supakali
supakali

Hilarious!

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Pure paradox. Probably THE most emotionally centered I’ve ever been but I got serious blues going on, too. Mourning dead era ish or just disappointed by the promise of much and manifestation of none.

Nothing to do except keep going.

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

See through, over it. There are many lives, times we live at once…I hope it goes well for you!

(Trying to do so myself)

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Yep so me atm – day to day am planning and lust making (Me sane multiple mutable – : ) Powderfinger) doing my Saturn planning and Sunday scheming …

Have found out the name of the person who made us a scary big proposition in April (ZZ) and sent them a hello this is us remember present if they are still interested our lives will change for ever stuff! Native Neptune conj Moon dreamer….

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Hahaha! Lust making – autocorrect you are so funny!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Autocorrect Kiwi Style.
Being Mars in Virgo
I have both a
lust for lists &
list of lusts

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Yes! Curiously interchange : )

davidl
davidl

As mentioned above I had a Saturn Neptune conj in Scorpio , 5th house a while ago. In that case I felt generally like they were working together. Saturn saying fine, you want to pursue that long held fantasy, then here’s how to make it real. Neptune saying hey, let’s try this new meditation technique, it may make us calmer in our approach to life’s demands. I can see though how the square between them on a communal or personal scale could be more difficult. People seeing a choice , this way or that, based on either practical or mythical… Read more »

Ally lei
Ally lei

All things in moderation is seriously the thing my mom says most to me.

Vizualisation- Saturn and Neptune being true friends. Holding hands, working out at the gym, playing Mario cart, listening to what the other is seeking and going from there
Thanks, I’m going to read about dosh now.

gbs
gbs

This past year I had Saturn over Neptune in my 6th house for one of those three-part, nine-month transits. Saturn forced me to clean up my diet to deal with a change in my hormones and a sluggish lymphatic system (so Neptune that!), something I had been avoiding truly looking at for several years. In the workplace, Saturn steered me away from a certain career goal I thought I wanted, to a position more focused on strategy, which is where my true bent lies. In both cases, Saturn shook out the inconsistencies in my thinking, put the issues right in… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Thank you. Beautifully put.
Long held fantasy / neptune transit 7th – creative expression; peacefully, loving, dreams, total release, dissolving / immersion in union. Always was going to be pursued anyway as mars is conjunt chiron pisces 7th trine neptune scorpio 3rd, (which is sextile/ opposition to virgo stellium 1st)…the new meditation is found in committment to daoist internal martial arts…

The saturn path, structured approach or possibiliity to make it real, to be closer to this with validity, is my acceptance into a masters of (creative) therapeutic arts practice, commencing 2016…can’t wait.

Ally lei
Ally lei

My sun is trine Neptune and my Saturn in sag. I’m so easily effected by drugs and have such poignant dreams but seriously I’ve just felt as if my dreams are magnificent sandcastles that fall through my fingers and nothing more. I’ve been in a rut for a while now, unable to accomplish any of dreams or my goals, I was literally texting my sister about this earlier tonight. Maybe I should be sober for this entire time. Though I love to disconnect with drugs to go moseying about other frequencies, I don’t know if it’s doing me any good.… Read more »

davidl
davidl

All things in moderation and only you know where that point is. Try and maintain that level and get those highs working for you. Have a look at my post below. I reckon with your Saturn return and finding the right Neptune balance you could create some pretty damn good music. Saturn will find the dosh as soon as he’s comfy with where you’ve set the limits. Self destruction is not a necessary path for high level creativity, allowing yourself to expand beyond yourself with the help of Neptune is x

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I agree with davidl, re only you know your limit. I had a period where I was really feeling guilty about my dog dying. I know I don’t control life or death, but I kept obsessing over what I could have done better. Anyway, I realized I hadn’t been fully present because I’m always on the dream weed. And when I realized that in my heart, I stopped wanting it. Not like a statement stop, an announcement of sobriety and pressure to maintain it and all that. Just a realization about how I’ve been living, what its costs those who… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

Who said Germans dont have a sense of humour? Waiting for a ghost to materialise…or some such. Me….? No, not me. I might be THICK but things are starting to make sense. I read an 83 page book 5 times last night. Somethn clicked a bit in my inner west traffic jam head. Things some ppls previous statements on here a gelling….slowly. Anyways l got Saturn forming a T Squaure to Neptune that is opposing my Venus. I struggle with Mutable energy (except Virgo – Sane Mutable) even Pisces despite it being Water. Gems n Saggs, bless em, make me… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Gem and sadge = best company in an inner west traffic jam. Entertainment and keeping it loose as you work your way thru the wtf

Pi
Pi

Also they always always know the back way. Mutables. Handy creatures πŸ˜‰

Centaurus
Centaurus

Agreed.. of course πŸ˜‰

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Seconded! Bien sur πŸ™‚

Jokerman
Jokerman

You should then meet my Gem Sun Asc Moon Merc Venus mate. He can interupt an accident to have his say.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Ok so I think I speak on behalf of all the mutables having planets in each of signs so I’m chiming in just because I want to hear (or read) you go Waaaaaaahhhh! πŸ˜‰

Pi
Pi

Lol!

Jokerman
Jokerman

Lol. I like ppls fr all signs. But personally find mutable energy hard to factor in for myself. I got 3Virgos but they seem sane energy.
Mutables l like: Bob Dylan. Steve Waugh. Tea Leoni. Emily Mortimer. Johnny Cash. Steffi Graf. Alannis Morrisette. Steven Wright. Bob Hawke and my youngest brother.

But dont get a Gemini to do painting unless of course you are not worried about rust. I teach kids and Gems are the least thorough with attention to detail.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Heh Heh.. πŸ™‚

I can make myself go waaah sometimes and so can my Saggi partner. Was just too good an opportunity to pass up.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Wwwwwwwaaaaaaahhhhh
my Fisces mother never ever knew what was going on with us kids. Clueless. But she always knew where the piss was flowing.
Im currently back at my home address working with Gem mate. He is grate with planning n thinkn n talkn about job. But dont give him a welder or a paint brush or a spray gun. NO WAY!
But my Aqua Moon/7H and Libran NN/3H loves his erudition; even if he answers the question that wwwwwwaaaaahhhhsssnnntt asked. In myphone he is listed as “Quicksilver” 5x Gem.

Centaurus
Centaurus

Perhaps it is answering the next question or the one 5 questions ahead.. but it’s coming πŸ˜‰

Yes that jumping all over the place can take some getting used to but I always find it comes back or goes full circle and had added another layer to the whole dialogue.. if you can ride with it without getting too frustrated that is.

gemyogi
gemyogi

No way, I’m a gem Sun who has worked as a proofreader and I’m a grammar nazi and believe that if you do something, you do it thoroughly and properly and well, otherwise don’t bother! Attention to detail level is EXTREME

Jokerman
Jokerman

My experience in working in cars, first, then teaching is that Gems, usually, dont have the practical application. Maybe in the communication sphere, which IS their forte. Earth sign kids follow thru the best with jobs. Currently l have two Gems in yr9 who cant apply themselves to their work rather just talk. They are just not into metal. Im not surprised to hear you are good at proofreading / editing; a communication realm. I am not astounded, in my line of work, that Earth sign kids do their toolboxes, BBQs, etc with less fuss and great technical ability than… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

yes — anyway, stereotyping doesn’t work — 2 gems does not a typical sample make! i.e. we’re not all chatty airheads

Powderfinger
Powderfinger

True. But my son in law is a Gem. My mate that helps me is a Gem. And a long term friend is also a Gem. Im not down on them but they have that uncanny ability to answer the wrong question or 5 at a time. You should meet my mate, “Quicksilver”. He is an experience. And you have a Taurus Stellium; that veers you away fr your Sun Gem. As far as the kids go it is pretty well right that Air kids will rather talk than do. On balance, if it were not so, Astrology would not… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Haha i was going to reply that you’ll have GemYogi firing up! Go the Yogi! xxx

Jokerman
Jokerman

An Air sign being fired up? I’ll take that as a compliment!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Yes, do! Though she’s probably stirred, not shaken πŸ™‚

gemyogi
gemyogi

lol as those of you who know me, will know, Gem sun is my only air! I have a taurus stellium so lots of practical earth. and Aries rising means firing up happens with regularity!

supakali
supakali

omg, I always used to judge people when they would write your when they meant you’re. Then people I respect started doing it. the other day my mother did it. I give up, nobody cares about grammar anymore.

skarab
skarab

Yes, that one annoyed me a lot – then i noticed that my auto-correct was changing my “you’re” to “your.” I was mortified thinking of all the times it had gone out wrong. MORTIFIED.

supakali
supakali

o noes!

*deliberate typos acceptable πŸ˜‰ *

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pacifically speaking it segrates my ears to hear ppl say Canns for Cairns. I have bcome an avocate for advocardoes of ppl who say 0h for zero. O is the 15th letter of alfabed. Anyway OE was Germanic then Willy n Normans bRought French to stratify and confuzz the Angles. Sick of the Wabbit Warren they founded new found land. But once there they’re confounded with their language again when the Teutonic element regermanisized the language after foundless farthers discounted beecoming a duel language country after the krauts lost the dual.

Pi
Pi

Its not geminis job to be good at such things. That’s like asking a turtle to drive a truck, or telling a katakan to “get over it”. πŸ˜‰

Pi
Pi

Or a Scorpio to “let it go” or a Virgo to “stop worrying about it” or a Leo to get over themselves or … You get my drift πŸ™‚

Jokerman
Jokerman

Im ok with em. I just wont let him physically do anything when he works with me. But as an intellectual outrigger to my my building plans he is invaluable.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

The Tai de Ching ? (book).

sphinx
sphinx

Saturn is transiting my Neptune right now, 2 deg away and charging towards it at any rate..

A healer I went to recently commented how strange my energy flow was, that it was parcelled into sections so to speak.
How Saturn.
“Saturn as steroids/peptides for Neptune”.
Yes. I have to say, that there really is no looking back for me now.
Recently dreams and prophecies from 6 years ago are now manifesting.

I almost didn’t believe but Saturn gives experiences, not fantasies.

davidl
davidl

Saturn can give some of those Neptunian ideas form, make them part of your life in a more structured, timely and positive way. In my case this transit allowed certain people, who previously just saw me as a bit kooky, to see the strong foundations these kooky ideas were built on. Yes Andy, the time has come where your more controversial ideas will have their day. Saturn will help you meet the market so to speak.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Wow. I hope people can see through my kooky too. I have suddenly been thrust into a leadership position. As a 12th house Sun, this is very uncomfortable for me. But, after that solar eclipse on my Sun, I realize I have no choice but forward.

sphinx
sphinx

I think leadership suits Virgo’s! It may cost them a bit but their sensitivity makes them wonderful bosses. Where is the Cap/Mars in Ye chart? ( “Ye” that’s a typo but it stays for pirate effect)

12th house virgo
12th house virgo

Mars in my first house at zero Libra, four degrees from my AC. People always think I’m angry. Cap is most of my 4th house, ruler of my 5th. Saturn in 10th house Cancer.

sphinx
sphinx

Oh wow! No wonder you have the energy for leading!! You can think for yourself, unlike so many minions. Then the Cappy flavoured 5th is artisan, craftsperson, thoughtful. But Saturn in the 10th in Cancer?! Really? It’s like executive material astro.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hey me too, leadership thing happening.

And some of us don’t see “through” your kooky, we read thesuperimposed lines of kook and sense quite clearly. You always talk a straight dose of kook, my dear, one i’ve always appreciated xx

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Thank you and Yes, yes, yes! Part three of my dream was realized today! The team lead I most admire there wants me on her project! Later psycho, Scorp! Whew!

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

And I hope you dig your leadership gig. You’ve always felt like a natural-leader to me.

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Thank you, beautiful! oh but a pisces…yeh i guess Mystic has helped me to ‘get’ my Mars in Cap and other natal stuff that does lead.

You are going to teach your team towards loveliness. I believe Virgo and 12th House style can bring a deep loveliness that is very subtle to your crew, yet effective.

I wish for all of you that the scorp gets that at some point and in some way. And if anyone can help them, it’s got to be 12HV xxx

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

Aw! Thanks, love!

sphinx
sphinx

Thank you David! I do feel lucky to have a few people in my life I can share the deepest levels of wtf with. And there is so much wtf around right now!
However I will share a bit here when it is done and I will have no influence on it’s manifesting. It’s amazing, as in miracle amazing. πŸ˜‰

Separately husband is going to build me a new therapy room when we house up next year. Any design ideas for a mini healing temple appreciated!

gemyogi
gemyogi

big amethyst crystal totems, gold, indian cushions made of saris… or white curtains and lots of wood and plants and water feature πŸ™‚

gemyogi
gemyogi

when I say totems I mean those big cylindrical columns… can’t remember what they’re called

sphinx
sphinx

You mean caves? I would adore but they are way exxy love!! *sigh* it’s too bad as I am super crystal oriented, it’s like they are my natural friends. I have loads and I like them big!
I am definitely going I that direction you are suggesting btw! Was thinking an octagonal room with crystals buried in the foundations…

gemyogi
gemyogi

just looked online — they call them amethyst cathedrals! have you been to Crystal Castle near Byron Bay?

sphinx
sphinx

Yes, re CC, I had some very interesting experiences there. While meditating one night I was told to go and download info from three specific crystals & received a mental map.
It was so funny trying to find them and then holding them. When I looked up from what I had been doing, some of the descriptions of the crystals were there and detailed qualities and uses I hadn’t known but had just ‘seen’. Man, I love crystals.
Cathedrals, yes, I love them but they can set you back a few thousand!! One fine day perhaps.. πŸ˜‰

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Yes I will be investing in one. Beautiful

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

I had an image and saw crystals, not buried exactly but in little chambers open to air, so they can be removed for cleansing and viewed easily. In the columns. They need a top and bottom, not heavy-solid, though. Can you see what i mean?

sphinx
sphinx

Ooh, I like it!
Can it be wooden? Like a kind of tube with slats?
I imagine it like something you could attach to the window frame so the light and colour vibrations can be transmitted to a person sitting in a certain position! What do you think?

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Well why the hell not?!

I just knew you could riff off my abstract vision into something that can work.

…ummm, how do you feel about plastic? I tend to hate it, but if you can pull it into service…or glass, ideally, but yes a bit pricey. I feel like air and light and space around the held crystals is the thing. You may have a wood idea that can do this, Sphinxy xxx

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I’ve had so many prophetic dreams about work lately. Mundane stuff. Like, a guy that was in one of my dreams who I work with – we were in a crowded hotel and changing beds. This week, I learned we’re all moving around and will be moving to his desk. Like I said, mundane stuff. Neptune in my 3rd getting hit by Saturn, and Neptune by transit in my 6th,

sphinx
sphinx

That’s so cool! I rarely have dreams that are clear lately. It’s something I have to work on assiduously to master.
But I have so much Neptune energy in my daily life (Neptune in my 6th house) I think I haven’t really wanted to.
But I am envious of your natural facility, the sun in the 12th must be a great help in clear dreaming.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I think its since Neptune in got into Pisces, which is in my 6th – I dream work prophecies. I had a dream that told me how I’d get fired in 2012, to mundane to spell it all out here. A few weeks back, I had a dream I’d be unable to wash my hands of this toxic coworker, and that I’d meet with a woman, get negative feedback, and meet with another woman – specifically to talk about personas, and leave feeling positive. This was one dream and three clear images/sensations. I remember the word personas being in my… Read more »

sphinx
sphinx

Ah, that’s great!! Every day magic, the best kind. πŸ˜‰
I have a friend who gets such exact and clear info he no longer in any way delves (well, unless I ask him for a reason) into the future. He gets kind of locked in to a situation then being unable to change it and it’s DETAILED.
My impressions are usually positive, helpful and impressionistic. A little like what you describe? You know what is coming up but in broad brushstrokes that still gives a lot of freedom in the manifestation of that situation.
Good luck with the new project doll!

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Hey! Neptune (ruler of 12th) in your 6th (natural Virgo house) and Sun, ruler of your Virgo, in the 12th house.

I see what you did there πŸ™‚ Did you know that’s what’s happening?

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I never even thought of it. I see it now, but what I’ve been thinking of is all the Neptune square Neptune and Neptune square Saturn, and Chiron-Neptune opp Venus-Sun and on and on… but, I see it. And I def have an increased trust in being guided through my life.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I had a healer give me unsolicited advice recently. It was unnerving. I am highly skeptical of anyone self proclaim to be a Master or reincarnation of Buddha!

sphinx
sphinx

Sometimes when healing you get really clear messages to pass on and not doing so feels like you aren’t doing your job, tho I can understand yr feelings there too regarding it being unsolicited. As to be a reincarnation of something grand, it is quite possible that yr healer be an incarnation of Buddha etc. and just as possible for you to be an incarnation of Jesus.. If you think of these mythical personalities as huge energy fields that shed molecules like seeds to the wind to incarnate the you might get a better picture? (Forgive me my science is… Read more »

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

If someone gave me a bit of free, unsolicited advice, I would take that as kind, not unnerving. What exactly gets “unnerved” by being seen and cared for? That’s something to explore for yourself. Because, I imagine like all sentient beings, you do want love and care. I don’t see any benefit or truth in the invisible hierarchy of Buddha’s and Masters and whatnot. That’s kind of missing the point. Any Master would tell you that we are one, which is why its not only possible, but quite easy for some to read what someone is hiding, even from themselves.… Read more »

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I love how Saturn is the street and Neptune is the alley πŸ˜‰ I’ll be living this for the next goodness knows how long, with Neptune on my sun etc. I am trying not to be a dark moon LZ but not doing so well at the minute. On the way to see a friend’s new house today I found myself in the part of town where the Neptunian Cap used to live, seeing all the places he used to talk to me about but that I never visited. An unexpected kick to the heart. No, I didn’t stop. I’m… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

sending you a big Saturn-Neptune hug πŸ˜€

Lizzy
Lizzy

Big big hu. It sounds like you’re on the right track.

Pi
Pi

Yeah. X

Skye
Skye

Time.

And be easy on yourself.

One activity to feed your soul…

The hurt will eventually go but sometimes we need to walk through its darkness in order to get to the light.

Xox

Electro
Electro

You are on the right road, it just takes time. No easy fixes, unfortunately. xx

Jokerman
Jokerman

Its prob bcos of my Virgo cluster lm saying this (practical n all) but lm goin to an Analyst of the Jungian persuasion tmoro. I know you got squares n oppositions (same or opposite) to me. I read a book now 7 times and lm using it to catch a wave on the Phoenix rising of the 4:47 NM just gone. Its one. of my 5. plan.
(this is how a Kat with Virgo topping offers support)

Centaurus
Centaurus

A heart never needs fixing Chrys… It is our heads that sometimes get out of kilter with our heart and our heads that start telling our heart how and who to love or not. The heart loves.. and love is an expanding outgoing energy that naturally is fulfilling and uplifting to our souls until we start defining what it is and how it should look, be received or expressed etc. Have you had an experience of loving something/someone without any desire for anything in return and just enjoyed the bliss of the feeling? That’s love and it fills us up… Read more »

Gemyogi
Gemyogi

Beautiful xx

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

You’re all lovely peeps thanks for kind thoughts xx I will be fine. Instead of drinking alone last night as I would normally do on a down-day I made a chamomile tea and wrote in my journal. The crux of it is, I lost my faith in any ‘good force’ at that point. Like all good LZs at the time I sought advice from psychics and readers, all of whom told me he would come back and it wasn’t over. (Good people not shopping centre gerberas). It didn’t come to fruition, (I know, free will and all) but I do… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

journals and art saved me. it’s the only thing that will, along with nurturing your self esteem with meditation, yoga, and good people around you… or whatever works for you xx

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

“I know it’s not rational”…and yet there you were stating the facts of what you lost, as if from the spreadsheet. It’s real, and those feelings do flow, through and around you. When we’re tired of swimming, we can turn onto our backs and float, before we get the oxygen to swim forward again. It’s hard to swim with a heart full. As you keep going, know that you have forged banks to your river, and you won’t drown, to borrow from David L and Centaurus’ convo above. Neptune matters as much as Saturn, which matters as much as Neptune.… Read more »

supakali
supakali

it’s the end of the Neptune Retrograde Chrys….the final still reflection. We move forward next week! I think this will ease x

gemini cat
gemini cat

It’s hard for me to tell what’s realistic about dreams. Any dreams have always seemed totally unrealistic, but that kind of thinking is sort of delusional in it’s own way. How do you know what could be achievable without being either too grandiose or settling for too little? I’ve never had any idea, but this transit will be t-squaring my sun so maybe I can finally figure something out.

Centaurus
Centaurus

My take on the ‘how’ has little to do with realistic. If you can conceive it you can create it. If the energy isn’t in it during the creative process it’s either not the true goal, not the right timing, needs more time/effort or is missing a step or two before the thing can be dreamt into reality. Maybe there are others.. but I can usually distil it into these as well as managing expectations.. it’s ok to try, to fail, to try again, to change course, to consider unconventional approaches and to risk etc.. and it’s ok to try… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Define unrealistic.

davidl
davidl

unrealistic ? Hmmm, I should know this ? I think it originally came from Ancient Rome and is sometimes described as ‘ a long piece of bamboo or timber’ that was used usually by older mature people to whack other people who have ideas that they had never considered or heard of before. In more modern times the stick was just left off and it became ‘unreal’. A word used frequently from the early seventies, often by teens to describe happy serendipitous events or people eg. Have you met that new guy ? Oh yeah , David ? Yeah, awwww… Read more »

Centaurus
Centaurus

Unreal!! πŸ˜‰ x

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Heheh DL may i borrow…i want to call my office the Department of Linguini πŸ™‚

gemini cat
gemini cat

Not going to happen for dozens of reasons, all the ones I can think of and the ones I don’t know are there… which dampens motivation to keep working.

12th House Virgo
12th House Virgo

I have no clue and a natal T-square getting zapped by this thing. The only hint I have so far, is that it has to do with helping and including other people. Then again, maybe that’s my 12-6 house axis talking.

Skye
Skye

Last hit 2006/07 was seriously harsh. But it was a necessary reality slap in face. (Slap with an anvil might I add) And the life reset that came after was for the better. I had a harder time detoxing from Neptune than up taking Saturns common sense. Right now tho I’m just struggling with the dark moon. I’m in super low Aqua intolerant belligerent soap box sermon you’re all idiots and I’ll tell you to your face mode. I can’t seem to switch it off. People who refuse to evolve and break same old patterns are giving me the shits.… Read more »

supakali
supakali

wow Skye, I could have written your first paragraph! Let’s hope this next hit is a new phase of the story for us!

Skye
Skye

We are older and wiser now πŸ˜‰

skarab
skarab

Yep, me too. Still shudder from that neptunian phase.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

I feel ya../that’s why I retreat during the Dark Moon, people annoy me, it’s a sign I need some alone time before I go berzerk on them. πŸ˜‰

Centaurus
Centaurus

I love this sign! And the spin you put on it Mystic!

Neptune on my Saturn. Saturn on my Sun.

Been on a change road since late Nov 2014 working my way along a wide winding river looking for a crossing. Using advanced navigation techniques a bridge was recently sighted which enabled a new map to be drawn up. With the coordinates locked in I will be on the bridge at the end of Nov… in between worlds. This is both literal and figurative.

gemini cat
gemini cat

That sounds really interesting. I’d like to be somewhere like that. πŸ™‚

Centaurus
Centaurus

Yes.. it has been interesting gem cat πŸ™‚ Winding with a little up hill and down dale but the timing and synchronicity has been a bit like the glue holding the whole process together.

davidl
davidl

I love this. I’ve always liked river analogies. Like the way a river shows how boundaries are necessary for the water to be useful, a constant positive flow. A river without boundaries is called a flood. But why the other side ? Why not just jump in and see where the river takes you πŸ™‚

Centaurus
Centaurus

‘A river without boundaries is called a flood’. Now that’s cool!

Ah.. I’m playing in metaphors and the bridge is just symbolic of a landmark between point A and B but in essence I am actually jumping into the river πŸ™‚

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

Think you drove through it..? πŸ™‚

Centaurus
Centaurus

Heh heh… well yes I did indeed lovely ? ( not sure if my emoji will show laughing/crying but that’s what it is).

On intermittent wifi out bush with a bunch of peeps doing a Chiron workshop. Apt no? He’s in play in Pisces with Neptune and Jupiter opposing. Kaypacha is in town! So.. yeah I’m going to say this will be fun… weeeee… in a kind of peel you open way ?????!!!!

xox

Centaurus
Centaurus

Ok emoji’s just look like .. !!?????

Maybe that’s as it should be.. a ? for Neptune Alley and a ! for Saturn Street. WTF and YES I heard you.

supakali
supakali

how excitin’ eh? Injoy the zodiac dance πŸ˜‰

Centaurus
Centaurus

Totes awesome! πŸ™‚

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

No!!! That’s happening now???? God girl you’re always Astro-ppropriate! Chiron is a real Teacher-Learner journey…it’s a bit too close for me to look at it from an outside perspective, having it conjunct my Mercury in 5th H. This means the work i do constantly brings it into play. Haha what a choice of words…i mean my work is serious play bc of the client types, and when i play too hard with my Merc (in Aries) my clients let me know in various ways and i take it home to ponder. Thinking of your field, that may resonate, but possibly… Read more »

Centaurus
Centaurus

Chiron is where our wound becomes our gift andis our search for truth. He’ is where we’re challenged to move beyond ego needs. Depending on one’s preferences the wound can be current lifetime or previous but perhaps we can’t rule out that current isn’t related to previous and that consciousness may just not be showing it. Mercury is very present energy around how one thinks, communicates and analyses things yes but as he also had ways in and out of Hades he’s not to be underestimated in the diversity of skillset available. There might be a double dose of desire… Read more »

Venusian_Liaison
Venusian_Liaison

What an amazing picture! ?

I think you are spot on. As long as you are grounded and real about your dreams then magic will happen. If not, this will be a tough lesson. You will be magically pissed off!

Go Haute or go home.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

agreed. draems built on strong foundations.

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

dreams…strange typo! πŸ™‚

Centaurus
Centaurus

The kind of dream you get after a dram or two? πŸ˜‰

Scorpio_Rising
Scorpio_Rising

perhaps! lol!

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