Is There A Good Astrological Time For Dental Work?

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Is there a good astrological time for getting major dentistry? Yes! Astrology and Dental Work is under the domain of Saturn. Here’s how to schedule it.

Dear Mystic,

You are fab in so many ways! I’m a happy subscriber and student and customer. So thank you.

The frequency with which you mention dental care has made me think about my own teeth more. After years of putting the thing off, I got to see a dentist who is oh so gentle. We worked out a plan of treatment and it’s expensive!  But I figured that in case the economy goes bust at least I have my teeth, a solid investment). I have two questions!

One is: how do you schedule dental work? I wouldn’t fuss if it’s something minor, but the first thing I’m doing involves removing two wisdom teeth and possibly root canalling the shit out of my other tooth, all while I’m sleeping. This is big, right? I scheduled it for the waning Moon in Gemini. I want the bad teeth gone and don’t want to swell too much. Recovery seems like an ok thing to do in the dark moon days.

And question number two goes like this: what is it about teeth? Why include dental anything in the oracle? Is it esoteric in any way? Personally, I see healthy teeth as a status symbol these days. Is that because Saturn is approaching my 2nd House? 

Puzzled,
Nadia

Astrology And Dental Work – Scheduling Rules

Dear Nadia,

Thank you!  And yes, dentistry is a straightforward way to access Saturn Vibe. Think about it: it is the only part of our skeleton on the outside. Saturn is bones. Teeth are structure, status, and self-care all highly visible.

Saturn Return is when people first have some version of ‘holy fuq, maybe there is some point to all this dental, tax and savings crap, after all’.   You are already way on to this – you have found an epic dentist.  And as for scheduling dentistry via astrology.  Schedule it well before you need to.

For things like wisdom tooth extractions/root canals etc, the classic astrology vibe is to get a strong Saturn day (Saturn in good aspect to Mars, for example) and nothing negative with Neptune.

BUT if something is poisoning your system (which ‘bad’ teeth do) and you’re trusting your dentist, do not delay.

Teeth are esoteric in that every tooth corresponds to a Chinese meridian and the neuro-muscular vibe behind our tongue position and jaw influences so many things. It is a player in how we talk, eat, digest and defend against invaders.

There is an antioxidant that can only be made by the body which shuts down production if we are not breathing/chewing properly.

Saturn/Dentistry/Teeth and the decision to invest into that as opposed to – say – something more temporal is insanely esoteric. You are nourishing foundations and structure. You’re choosing to spend money on that rather than pleasure or status-signals.

Summary: Astrology and dental work are linked to Saturn. If you are having a Saturn transit, dentistry and that level of intricate self-care is a good way to honor it.

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VSLR
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VSLR
November 11, 2015 6:35 am

Late to the chat about teeth and dentist et al. Someone above mentioned the Saturn transit over natal moon – which I am going through/have been through last few months and how that could be connected to teeth. In September I took up a job at a dental clinic as assistant practice manager. A job I would never ever have imagine me taking up. It’s meant slaying my ego – but also realising that I can deal with qi vamps much better than before. This qi vamp of a manager is super incompetent in his job and disrespectful/sexist/racist and has… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise
November 10, 2015 3:11 am

Just going to add/ contribute I love my dentist; apart from the fact she is an amazing woman, she really treats my teeth and dental wishes with respect. I met her the same year I met my husband, about 20 years ago… I have 2 fillings – and I’m not far off 50, (jupiter return), the rule for me is to keep dental teeth cleaning to a minimum…all that scraping is not good…no whitening, no chemicals, no amalgam, porcelain by choice…I have venus in capricorn,..I was born to have white straight teeth (now slightly tea stained, crooked from wisdom teeth)…… Read more »

VenusRules
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VenusRules
November 9, 2015 9:02 pm

My dental history is rich and very complicated – yes, Saturn is super-strong in my chart. Won’t go into all the details but a couple of things – if you have any kind of childhood trauma, chronic or acute, it can manifest in a big fear of dentistry; it’s extra important to find a sensitive and kind dentist. I had two wisdom teeth out at age 57 last year. Went well! I was very nervous because of my age but they came right out. Tip: Eat a ton of fresh pineapple for several days before your surgery. It has an… Read more »

VenusRules
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VenusRules
November 9, 2015 9:12 pm
Reply to  VenusRules

Also learned last month that my very sweet periodontist shares my Scorpio birthday!

Meohmy
Meohmy
November 9, 2015 4:17 pm

Hmm interesting, steiner teachings align with psychological and physical development and dont teach until the 1st teeth are through as the spiritual intuitive being is still integrating and landing to earth so to speak (my take on that) .. jaw teeth tongue are utterly important. Id be interested to know who the gentle dentist is if in sydney. Coming from a background history of violent and brutal brital dental practices itd be good to know

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 9, 2015 3:06 pm

Dentist joke..he said this to me: Dentists are the greatest cause of tooth loss :-).

Skarab
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Skarab
November 9, 2015 3:52 pm
Reply to  Pegasus

Mine says that a good dentist never gets on your nerves.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 10, 2015 11:55 am
Reply to  Skarab

Never tell a dentist you have bottom teeth……
(there is only upper n lower)

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 3:54 pm
Reply to  Pegasus

i just spat out my tea!

so bad

Skarab
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Skarab
November 9, 2015 1:57 pm

Well weirdly, i have had to have both osteopathy and dental work done on me on same degrees of Cap in Sagg last week – as i did last Feb at same degrees. Also, to top off the symmetry, my osteo is a Cap Sun with Virgo Moon and my dentist is a Virgo Sun with Cap moon. Tidy. And since Cap moved into Sagg I have had to treat 3 dentists – all for the same acute neck and shoulder pain. I can’t really remember when i had treated a dentist last. In my case trans Saturn is in… Read more »

Sam
Sam
November 9, 2015 1:00 pm

A few yrs ago I had a session with a voice coach. Interesting. One thing we discussed was all those phrases you grow up hearing / witnessing e.g. :
Bite your tongue / hold your tongue
Shut your mouth
Stiff upper lip
Grit your teeth
Etc etc
So yes.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 9, 2015 1:06 pm
Reply to  Sam

You mouthn off again, Pi?

Sam
Sam
November 10, 2015 1:29 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Always, powderfinger… You can’t keep a good Gemini rising down 😛

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 9, 2015 3:10 pm
Reply to  Sam

This is so Louise Hay, isn’t it Pi?
He missed ‘biting the bullet’.
Biting off more than you can chew?

Saturn is my chart ruler as a multi Sagg with Cap rising, so careful attention to bones & teeth are necessary for me.

Sam
Sam
November 10, 2015 1:34 am
Reply to  Pegasus

Ah yes, so many! I agree with personal cap placements, cap moon soothed by being on top of these things too…currently am not soothed and sense of chronic stress and physical unease is exacerbated by absence of maintenance routine (time, money) but I do manage to get 2 dentist checkups a year because… Well cap moon i guess. Helps that my dentist has lovely dreamy eyes above that mysterious dentist mask 😉

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 11:56 am

well I have all the right astro at the moment for dental but none of the money heh. also, very unsure about how that works where I am. Love the idea of orofacial myology, as someone who has suffered a lot with her health and fallen through every crack in the medical system, I’m really curious like most people here to see how teeth tongue play a role. So saturn is entering my 6th right now and my moon conjunct saturn in 2 weeks, I know this is about dentistry but i had to schedule surgery for a large mole… Read more »

Pi
Pi
November 9, 2015 12:50 pm
Reply to  Ms.

I am taking Saturn anything in 6th as relevant for anything (anything) related to maintenance, “onnit” type things,

Just had a thought though
Moon is sensitivity and emo right, skin, ok, well there is having a “thick skin”, and it’s converse, “no skin off my nose” …. gets under ones skin…. Some interesting notions about toughness/sensitivity when it comes to skin.. metaphor for emotional boundaries hmm

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 1:31 pm
Reply to  Pi

for me its immune related legitimately but i was curious as to the astro given how quickly its come up

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 1:32 pm
Reply to  Pi

agree re maintenance

Sybil
Sybil
November 9, 2015 9:10 pm
Reply to  Ms.

Doesn’t Saturn rule skin? Our outer limit, our external reality etc etc.
Or is that a random scrambled memory.
Agree definitely get that mole checked regardless of GP – many GP’s are not specialised enough to be able to tell.

Ms.
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Ms.
November 10, 2015 3:43 am
Reply to  Sybil

Is what I thought re saturn but not sure.

yeah was genuinely surprised at response. not had the best run with GP’s and given the amount of people having density issues on this transit I thought I would ask

Golightly
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Golightly
November 9, 2015 11:29 am

This is so apropo att for me too. We are definitely feeling the zeitgeist. Several points to offer: A master yoga teacher/Ayurvedic doctor in workshop said he experiences yoga almost entirely in his mouth. Relaxing the tongue and upper pallet being more important and generally feeling spaciousness in the mouth more so than having perfect posture on the surface level. Makes sense because we can relax the body at a deep level and still hold tension in the strongest muscle, the tongue. Point 2: I just came out of a mars square mars transit and noticed my ears and jaw… Read more »

Jan
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Jan
November 9, 2015 10:42 am

Was in the dentist chair -as- Saturn moved into Sagg/my 6th house. results were far better than expected, especially after being too scared to go for 10 years. Lucky to hear that my teeth were in excellent condition and I’ve got my dental hygiene routines just right. I don’t know how this happened because for many years I did not look after my teeth at all and have a somewhat minimalist and intuitive but regular routine now. I thank my tongue scraper for the good news! Saturn return is coming up next year so was glad to have gotten in… Read more »

Virgo kathleen
Virgo kathleen
November 9, 2015 4:55 am

It’s funny all this talk of dentists because I visited the dentist for the first time in years a few weeks ago. Just felt compelled to go. I visited a dental school because I don’t have dental insurance and this way is cheaper. And now I’m going back several more times because I’ve got some minor cavities, gingivitis, etc. I’m actually a student’s case study for a paper. I think her grade depends on me flossing haha. Anyway it’s a good thing I went before things got worse. I’ve got Saturn in Sagg and am approaching my Saturn return.

Chrysalis
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Chrysalis
November 9, 2015 2:56 am

I too had a terrible phobia of dentists and would sob with fear in the chair for even just a check-up. Hideous experiences as a child meant I avoided going for decades as a teen/adult. I eventually plucked up the courage to start going regularly and despite sobbing/terrible shaking/borderline panic attacks would make myself go every six months to avoid making any problems worse. Saved up and paid for my own orthodontics/jaw realignment in my 30s. Have recently found the absolute best dentist ever and after my last visit my phobia seems to have completely gone. Investing in my dental… Read more »

Porkchop
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Porkchop
November 9, 2015 2:41 am

Next month I am going to start treatment to get a root canal redone sigh. I think there is a hidden canal my dentist couldn’t find so now am going to see a specialist as there is a low level infection. Neither my dentist or the specialist use gas or anything. I could prob ask for ativan but I think I will be okay… Will listen to music. Maybe Brian Eno. My dentist is funny – he is in his 50s and plays jazz piano and is really into music. So he always asks me what I am listening to… Read more »

Universali
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Universali
November 9, 2015 2:02 am

Great post and love your comment Rache. I’ve just taken my 3 yr old to the dentist for the first time. Mainly because she was a little too attached to her dummy (aka ‘doda’). The dentist was awesome, a really lovely woman who spoke to my daughter like a normal person- not surprisingly something kids actually love instead of being spoken to like a puppy). I was nervous to instill in her the fear of dentists that I grew up with. When we left my daughter said ‘mummy, I don’t want the dummy anymore.’ Then later ‘when I grow up… Read more »

Porkchop
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Porkchop
November 9, 2015 2:42 am
Reply to  Universali

Awww that is so awesome!!!!

I want the rainforest and gas too 🙂

R(Aqua/tauri)
R(Aqua/tauri)
November 9, 2015 5:09 pm
Reply to  Universali

Awwww, that’s wonderful that you found someone who treated your daughter like a person and not just a machine to be worked on (my experience with dentists growing up).

I constantly had a pacifier in my mouth as a toddler and believe it contributed to developing an open bite (research backs this up). The tongue posture and correct breathing are really powerful on children and totally non invasive, wish my parents had that knowledge when I was growing up and maybe I could have avoided some of this stuff

Leo Princess
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Leo Princess
November 9, 2015 1:53 am

A few years ago I had a nasty cycling crash and have now had enough dentistry to last a lifetime. I broke my jaw in two places, lost my right front tooth, and ended up with chipped and crazed teeth, three root canals, braces (for the third time in my life; don’t ask), a bone graft, an implant tooth and a mouthful of teeth which may or may not have microfractured roots. Having damaged and missing teeth was awful. I was very self conscious and felt that I looked like a bag lady. Prior to the crash, I had very… Read more »

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:45 am

brian eno when visiting my dentist? I can only dream!

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)
November 9, 2015 1:50 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

i know right?!

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:57 am
Reply to  R(Aqua/Tauri)

think i’ll move to Sydney lol

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:40 am

yrs ago when I was detoxing I got all my mercury fillings changed to amalgam- I paid privately-so its quite validating to hear from mystic that its an esoteric and highly self-caring thing to do…mother/ fther issues ay? tres interesting!

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:34 am

think i’ll just be given a date, not sure i’l have a choice…

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:27 am

ok that was meant to say this is so timely!

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
November 9, 2015 1:26 am

this is o timel! need a wisdom tooth out….was thinking ‘ok, wait till the moon is waning’…..not sure how to work out te Saturn thing….he’s in m 7th hse at the mo….had braces for yrs when I was younger…still hae dreams abt it..

Virgo Ellie
Virgo Ellie
November 9, 2015 1:25 am

Well, I loved having my wisdom teeth taken out. I am strange like that. I was nervous because I cannot stand being “put under” if you know what I mean. Loss of control for this Virgo. But I had a friend who was a dental assistant there so I felt better. There I was sitting in the chair, doing what they had to do to put me “under”, beach sunglasses, reggae music, 100, 99, 98…. OUT! I woke up, teeth out, a little pain and I went home. Cold tea bags are awesome to stop the bleeding. I laugh about… Read more »

Scorpio_Rising
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Scorpio_Rising
November 9, 2015 10:06 am
Reply to  Virgo Ellie

I actually enjoyed the sleep. I was nervous but it was very peaceful procedure.

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
November 9, 2015 1:18 am

So appropriate – in the short time since Saturn got back into Sagg (with my Sun, Jupiter, Merc, Neptune and multiple asteroids) I have been practically LIVING at my dentist. I managed to avoid going near one for probably 15 years until an infected molar made it impossible to resist any longer …she’s lovely, it’s expensive and it feels very “grown up” to be biting the bullet (haha) and just getting all the requisite work done. I am starting to wonder when there will be something fun to spend $$ on again though…lol

saturnplutoflux
saturnplutoflux
November 9, 2015 3:54 am
Reply to  Mystic

hahahaha please not that long away! lol

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 9, 2015 3:02 pm

My teeth cost a mint due to biting the bullet.
My Physio also due to turning the other cheek.

Pegasus
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Pegasus
November 9, 2015 12:31 am

Never schedule Denistry on a Friday as they take weekends off. If it is a Friday then have his mobile number in case of undue swelling or infection. My Dentist is a joy to go to. He has an enclosed rain forest with waterfalls and ghekkos, exotic plants that each cubicle faces and screen that shows soothing stuff when your head is back. Located in an old abby in a posh part of town. It is a lifelong investment, make sure you have a good health fund for rebates. Horses are thingie about their teeth for certain reasons i will… Read more »

Sara
Sara
November 9, 2015 12:17 am
Reply to  Mystic

Thank you Mystic! Just what I needed to read with Saturn Return kicking off on my Moon-Saturn conjunction Nov/Dec.

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 11:44 am
Reply to  Sara

yes we have the same. are you 7 degree sag moon? ironically I was actually flossing reading this.

Sara
Sara
November 9, 2015 2:32 pm
Reply to  Ms.

Yes! Moon at 7 degrees, Saturn and Juno at 8 degrees. Am worried something bad will happen. I have the classic difficult mother upbringing with my Moon-Saturn.

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 3:51 pm
Reply to  Sara

well at least its in sag and you ran away! 😉
we are moon twins! I am also nervous, its arriving on my birthday :/
but I don’t think something bad will happen rather because its the shit you already know kind of thing. I’ve already had a breakup this week but I am very sure that its going to be a break and we are negotiating though that right now. I’m in a foreign country as well so its very apt.

rose4
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rose4
November 9, 2015 6:44 pm
Reply to  Ms.

Haha! All the best with working through the break/break up thing, remember to apply Saturn discipline to it. I don’t think this is coincidence, but my mother is coming back to NZ for 6 weeks to visit bang on Saturn Return. But is more her shitty family that plays up and I can see a cluster f*** coming from there!

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
November 9, 2015 1:10 am
Reply to  Mystic

“Tooth Sense” by Jeffrey Oras. He talks about the emotional component of dentistry and how even the most hard assed people all freeze in the chair.

This is interesting in itself but beyond this his insights about human development and vagus nerve tone through the lens of a dentist are so good

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 9, 2015 1:22 am
Reply to  Mystic

Ok, so you say go now regardless if Moon is waxing or if Saturn is conjuncting Mars at Poppel’s corner. Im gonna look up chinese thing you mentioned.

So what about getting Amalgam fillings removed. Some dentists say dont get em removed bcos grinding em causes filings to fall and probably be ingested. Ugggh.

I have actually been to Mars. It was an ‘unvehicled’ space flight. Happend a number of times. The pain is severe. Similar to getting a cricket ball into the gonads. It happens whenever l got RCT. VERY EXPENSIVE & a failure.

NinthHouse
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NinthHouse
November 9, 2015 2:20 am
Reply to  Mystic

Your dentist sounds like a dream Mystic. Maybe he’ll let you share his deets?

flowerchild
flowerchild
November 11, 2015 6:06 pm
Reply to  NinthHouse

Ok, I’m weird. I’ve always loved having my teeth cleaned, even as a kid and was never scared to go to the dentist, but I’ve always had strong teeth too, and pretty straight though overbite and asymmetric jaw. I have Venus in Cap in the 6th. Might that help? It’s square Saturn though. The subject of this blog post and everyone’s comments here are like a manifestation for me of my moon in Pisces transited by the Neptune Saturn square right now, plus Saturn is transiting my 6th, whilst squaring my moon….. Amazing! To the dentist! 🙂 I haven’t been… Read more »

hdq
hdq
November 9, 2015 12:03 am

moon in gemini is good for surgery. get high, think interesting thoughts, forget you have a body.
the saturn-teeth connection is legit. i had braces from the time saturn hit my spican north node until he stopped fuqing my everything in the first two fixed decans. worth every penny that i will be paying the rest of my life for, definitelwy. not even a status symbol, a contractual requirement to be a member of the middle class.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 8, 2015 11:48 pm

I think l need someone to explain this too me. Im gettin implants and bridges done as soon as l can. Before my Sat return in 2 yrs. But the thing that freaks me is my (some) missing molars. I have natal Saturn opp Asc which was compounded by my Nep Sq my Sun Moon opposition crap.

Like when to schedule Moon Saturn Nep aspects wise.

sphinx
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sphinx
November 8, 2015 11:29 pm

Saturn is transiting my 6th as we speak… (Shh, can you hear the sound of teeth crumbling?) Suddenly Leo’s dentists mention they see chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, ibs, etc with poor teeth. I probably have Ehler-Danlos syndrome which is synonymous with those conditions. The stretchy nature of the EDS sufferer is a collagen issue that pops up in the entire fabric of the body, causing pain, vascular problems, migraines etc. some people even need surgery to have their floppy heads forged to their spine… Maybe EDS is the cause for some patients and not simply poor dentistry? I quietly freak out… Read more »

sphinx
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sphinx
November 8, 2015 11:30 pm
Reply to  sphinx

P.s. I have Neptune in the 6th so mysterious illnesses that are misdiagnosed seem to be my ‘thing’.

Sam
Sam
November 8, 2015 11:25 pm

Ah damn, have to get to a real computer to see that meridian diagram link shared! I have one molar that never came up. It’s just there taking a nap in my jaw bone. Wonder what that corresponds to 🙂 Also, I don’t have wisdom teeth … discovered that during a precautionary pre-travel x-ray in my 20s. That’s a plus I guess. Flossing tho, no one escapes that.

sphinx
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sphinx
November 8, 2015 11:17 pm

Saturn in the 6th amped up by Mars??!!
If you aren’t meant to be a dentist – I don’t know who is! That’s very cool. 🙂

sphinx
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sphinx
November 8, 2015 11:18 pm
Reply to  sphinx

Soz – that was for Anpan the Dentist.

Veronica
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Veronica
November 9, 2015 1:07 am
Reply to  sphinx

I have natal Saturn in the 6th (opposed by mars)
Have always had positive feelings about going to the dentist come to think about it…

Unicorn Sparkles
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Unicorn Sparkles
November 8, 2015 11:13 pm

And then there’s the gum disease being a warning for heart disease thing.

I managed to avoid seeing a dentist for 10 years then finally went in for a professional clean. It dawned on me that I pay more attention to car maintenance than my own health.
And my ancient fillings often alert me to my stress levels with their polished shininess.

Teeth, spine, feet… So neglected.

anpan
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anpan
November 8, 2015 10:59 pm

Hey, astrology-loving dentist here, and I can’t believe I never thought about the Saturn-Dentistry connection. Regular maintenance, the financial aspect (at least in my country, where dentistry is a private industry), fear…. Also, CONSEQUENCES. If you crack your tooth in half or have a giant cavity, you’ve got to deal with it or else. Oh my god, this is kind of blowing my mind. I’ve got a Mars-Saturn conjunct in a 6th house stellium, square my Sun/NN…. was I MEANT to be a dentist?! This got me thinking, and I realised that my fave part about the job is when… Read more »

leoliza
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leoliza
November 9, 2015 7:11 am
Reply to  Mystic

my son (aries sun/venus in 6th) is a dentist! Has libra 24 ascendant but Pluto and saturn (not conj) in first house. of Scorpio..

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
November 9, 2015 1:36 am
Reply to  anpan

I am so interested in what makes people choose to be dentists, it is so mysterious to me as dentistry is a combination of wizard-carpenter-psychologist-surgeon and such a specific thing to pick.

The most interesting thing I have learned is that by having a balanced occlusion people keep their teeth… the teeth that are lost are the ones with the pressure on them… the symbolism of a specific tooth with too much load x astrology would be so cool to analyze!

Ms.
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Ms.
November 9, 2015 11:32 am

I thought it was usually peoples overbearing upper class conservative parents lol

Seabird
Seabird
November 12, 2015 12:36 am
Reply to  Ms.

I have a friend who really wanted to be a dentist, sat for the entrance exams twice as a mature-age student after being a dental nurse but couldn’t quite get the score she needed because she was also working fulltime.

She is the most amazing artist, meticulous, precise. I asked her why she wanted to be a dentist and she said it was like sculpting with teeth. She would have been a great dentist. Instead she started making the most incredible cakes on the planet. She sculpts icing now.

Scorpio_Rising
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Scorpio_Rising
November 9, 2015 10:03 am
Reply to  anpan

thank the gods & goddesses for good dentists.
thank you! You are a healer.

Jokerman
Jokerman
November 9, 2015 1:30 pm
Reply to  anpan

Should lve been a dentist ? My most exact astro is Mars Pluto (0°-2°) Virgo 2H trine Sat 2° Cap 6H. When l repair rust on cars l imagine lm a dentist doing it.

Suddenly Leo
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Suddenly Leo
November 8, 2015 10:42 pm

NICE QUESTION, Nadia!

More info on the Chinese Meridians corresponding to the teeth:
http://mydentistaz.com/interactive-meridian-tooth-chart/

Thanks for the tip, Mystic- that stuff is fun to learn more about! I also love how Lululemon’s slogan is “Dance, Sing, Floss, Travel.” We can think what we want about that company, but that slogan encompasses a LOT.

I wonder if it matters that I still have a baby molar. . .

rachel
rachel
November 8, 2015 9:49 pm

“Virgo Orofacial Myologist” = MYSTIC we need to talk, this is everything. Tongue posture is the key to health but the problem is that when we have bad tongue posture and breathing as children our bodies develop AROUND the poor habits and then it’s a bitch and a half to correct as an adult as our entire skeleton and muscles are CENTERED around the tongue. The fascinating thing is that tongue posture and the resulting health or non-health is a clear example of how we are product of the combination of genetics and environment. Bottles, pacifiers, and stress create poor… Read more »

Sybil
Sybil
November 8, 2015 10:29 pm
Reply to  rachel

You’re inspiring – I’d read an article about this a while back but the exercises didn’t seem to make a lot of difference. But jaw is totally screwed, TMJD very badly for a long time – I thought maybe I was past the turning point. But you’re getting change?

Sam
Sam
November 8, 2015 11:21 pm
Reply to  rachel

I can’t believe any doctor worth their qualifications would prescribe laxatives for ibs. (And the other things)
Glad you dug deeper.

rachel
rachel
November 9, 2015 12:28 am
Reply to  Sam

It’s insane. I was young and scared and if I could do it all over again (please, no) I have so many things to say to my doctors of yore.

mick
mick
November 9, 2015 3:26 am
Reply to  Sam

any doctor prescribing laxative instead of diet change is a p.o.s.

hdq
hdq
November 9, 2015 12:20 am
Reply to  rachel

dude. this so resonates, and i really needed to read it, thank you. <3 my jaw, which, being gemini rising, was of course always asymmetrical anyway, has this year after braces gone insanely wrong and and i have negative one meelion dollars to spend on it and i'm literally watching and feeling it get worse and more drastically twacked every day. homemade splint YES. can you recommend links and rabbitholes?? muchas gracias xxxxx

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
November 9, 2015 1:26 am
Reply to  hdq

http://starecta.com/ are the people making their own splints who I communicate with through a Facebook group. Many people have had success through their system but I did not (open bite).

https://curedystonia.wordpress.com/ is an excellent case study of a man who developed cervical dystonia overnight from negligent dental treatment.

A combination of atlasprofilax and MEAW braces (ideausa.net) is going well for me so far. I included the link to my blog about the braces in this comment.

When did you start and finish your last round of braces? Do you know what class of occlusion you are?

gemini cat
gemini cat
November 9, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  hdq

Shouldn’t the orthodontist have to cover that? I’m getting fitted for braces tomorrow, so I’ll have to ask him about this and will look in the paperwork about who pays if something goes wrong.

hdq
hdq
November 9, 2015 5:03 pm
Reply to  gemini cat

oh nothing went wrong with the braces themselves. they just didn’t address the underlying structural issues. my teeth are now perfectly aligned with my crooked jaw, which would have needed to have been fixed by surgery before the braces. anything specific to the braces themselves i do think would have been covered, yes. good luck with yours! they’re such a process but so worth it. xxx

Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
Rache(Aqua/Tauri)
November 10, 2015 4:38 pm
Reply to  hdq

Hey HDQ, I posted a response with links but it didn’t go through. The people doing the self-splint thing are Starecta. Some people are having success with it but others (like me) ran into problems… I had an open bite which is why I think it didn’t go well. BUT if you join their facebook group there is an AMAZING community of people trying Starecta, ALF, tongue stretching, all kinds of stuff and sharing their results. It’s a great resource for anyone struggling with this stuff, so much (maybe too much) information on there. If you search for Interdisciplinary Dental… Read more »

mick
mick
November 9, 2015 3:24 am
Reply to  rachel

maybe there is rolfing for the tongue 🙂

Skarab
MM Member
Skarab
November 9, 2015 7:40 am
Reply to  rachel

My god, Raché – what a saga!! And what courage and diligence you have had to sort yourself out and try and find a solution to your problem regarding your body – the only thing we truly own. I always tell people to never give up, to always keep searching, because there’s always a way – there’s always someone or some technique – ancient or modern, or a combo of both that will help. Caring for, and taking responsibility for your body is the most fundamental and important thing in life – something that is not stressed enough in our… Read more »

capala
capala
November 10, 2015 12:52 am
Reply to  Skarab

nicely put, yourself

Scorpio_Rising
MM Member
Scorpio_Rising
November 9, 2015 9:59 am
Reply to  rachel

absolutely fascinating!
I am intrigued

Ms.
MM Member
Ms.
November 9, 2015 11:42 am
Reply to  rachel

thats very heavy but you have some serious knowledge out of it now

Electro
MM Member
Electro
November 9, 2015 3:35 pm
Reply to  rachel

Incredibly interesting! I wonder if this would help my daughter, who is a chronic thumb sucker and also tongue thrusts when eating and talking. She incidentally has Saturn on her ascendant and a cappy moon.

Ms.
MM Member
Ms.
November 9, 2015 3:45 pm
Reply to  Electro

when I originally googled this out of curiosity earlier I came across a woman’s linkedin profile who is based in America (but studied where I live) and she specialises in chronic thumb sucking to the point her nickname is now the thumb whisperer, so I am going with yes and have a look into it for your area

Electro
MM Member
Electro
November 9, 2015 5:04 pm
Reply to  Ms.

Thank you! I will look into it, hopefully she is accessible to me.

Seabird
Seabird
November 11, 2015 3:51 am
Reply to  rachel

Rache I love you. I am in a phone writing this but I have intense problems with my face and head and neck and back and shoulders which I believe started with very invasive dentistry -starting with really incredibly painful braces when I was 13 and culminating in jaw surgery in which my enlightened fucking bastard maxillofacial surgeon actually surgically broke my top jaw in two places, sawed bits out of it, pushed it back together and literally riveted it back together with titanium plates. I was 15. The pain was indescribable. But what was worse was that it was… Read more »

R(aqua/tauri)
R(aqua/tauri)
November 11, 2015 8:37 am
Reply to  Seabird

Oh my god, that is awful and I feel you so much about the emotional trauma of it and of having trust problems or resentment toward a parent afterwards. It’s a fine line in some cases with children’s rights and medical but in my opinion if a kid doesn’t want a treatment that invasive (which is typically done for cosmetic purposes at least with standard “straight teeth” ortho) then it should NOT be done. My childhood orthodontist was a hack as well, I went in with a nice wide palate and big teeth (albeit with a gap and a bit… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird
November 11, 2015 3:31 pm
Reply to  R(aqua/tauri)

Jesus, let’s start an internet group for people whose faces were messed up by orthodontics. Poor you!! I too had an overbite, a small jaw, and very cute gapped front teeth. Guess what! I still have an overbite (no, fuckface maxillofacial surgeon, it didn’t give me arthritis, but your bloody plates have given me a permanent low-grade headache), I still have a small jaw, i no longer have my cute gapped teeth – instead my teeth are so tightly pressed together that I was unable to keep them properly cleaned which has resulted in having a number of them removed… Read more »

Seabird
Seabird
November 11, 2015 3:32 pm
Reply to  Seabird

PS Mystic thankyou for this post. Dr Saturn INDEED!!

Chrysalis
MM Member
Chrysalis
November 11, 2015 3:33 pm
Reply to  R(aqua/tauri)

Hi Rache I read your comments and took a look at your blog on this and wow you have done a LOT of research, kudos. I had lower jaw surgery in conjunction with orthodontics when I was 35. I was “advised” to have both jaws done but I was so scared of the procedure that at the last minute the surgeon and orthodontist (who of course work in a team) changed their minds. I am convinced it was a business building strategy on their part. Ever since the surgery I had this impression that my face has become imbalanced.. one… Read more »

CoffeeSpoons
CoffeeSpoons
August 20, 2020 12:24 am
Reply to  Seabird

Hi, did that surgery only cause pain and migraine or also ruined how your face looked? Cause it’s a cosmetic surgery so it better at least make the appearance good.

flowerchild
flowerchild
November 11, 2015 2:17 pm
Reply to  rachel

Wow, Rache! Serendipity…..this is exactly the missing piece I needed to know and just randomly decided to read through the MM blog today….haven’t been on here regularly lately…. Anyway, thank you so much for this information! I’m having Saturn transit the 6th right now, have been thinking about my teeth lately, have very asymmetrical jaw, have had TMJ in the past, have cervical vertebrae issues, probably have tongue issues….never even thought about that….but need to see one of these practitioners pronto! Thank you again for sharing this info. I’m in the Bay Area too so these references will be relevant.… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
November 8, 2015 9:44 pm

I think if it resonates, roll with it. I ignore the dental and feng shui suggestions – the dentist always marvels at my clean mouth and good co dition of my teeth so why spend money? And I have declutterred like crazy for aeons and it shifts nothing in my life other than enjoying a nice room, lol. But I heed ‘follow your bliss’ and over the last 2 months ‘transform’ because it resonates. Oracle and both online/offline Tarot have talked about big money and soulmating for over 14 months and nothing has transpired in either thus far 🙂

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
November 8, 2015 9:52 pm
Reply to  The Venus Fly

Oh, and ‘refresh the psychic pond’. That one is to be heeded to the hilt.

Sybil
Sybil
November 8, 2015 9:35 pm

Totally agree & thanks for the constant reminders Mystic, went to my excellent Dentist today in facto-mundo. I’m expecting the constant, low-level sinus infection will start clearing up now. Please.

Comet
Comet
November 8, 2015 9:07 pm

I think waning moon in Virgo is a good choice for dental work. Avoid moon in Aries and Taurus for some reason.

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