The Saturn-Neptune Vortex

Filed in Neptune

Yoshitaka Amano

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The Saturn Neptune square is the signature astro-passage of 2015/2016.  The last time these two faced off was in 2006/2007.   That was Saturn in Leo versus Neptune in Aquarius, this time it is Neptune in the sign that it rules.

A.k.a. a potent Neptune, capable of casting a powerful spell, for genius-art-compassion-shamanic-Awesome-soulmating OR, well you know how treacherous the undertow of Neptune can get. Saturn in Sagittarius is all about the blazing candor, no bull shit, truth-liberates sort of thing BUT it can also be a freaky religious fanaticism and/or non-stop belief wars.

But in our personal vibe, we’re trying to aim for haute Neptune – psychic, guided, magic, idealistic & creative – whilst still doing our due Saturn diligence. Some people are cleaving to one or the other already and not the highest version of either.

They’re turning on big-time to escapism/zombie affairs/blue devil hoochie juice and other Neptunian substances OR they’re setting their stance to “rigid” and making out like if they repeat the same ‘everything is fine, this is just cyclical/a short shower/a spat” that things will “sort themselves out.”

SO handling this Saturn-Neptune scene is what’s under-pinning all the Horoscopes at the mo, even if they don’t always say “this is because of the Saturn-Neptune square” and it is a strong theme of the Sagittarius Now Mp3 obviously.

But if you prefer a more visual display of the Saturn-Neptune Vortex, voila.

Moulin Rouge

There is Haute Neptune – Art, Myth, Star-Crossed Lovers, Glamour, Shamans, Jung, Lucid Dreaming, Yoga, Lilac Wine etc…Magic is real.

Edmund Dulac

And then there is Lower Neptune – slippery people, co-dependent romances where each person relates to the other person’s crappiest dimension or you’re having sex with your dealer (art or drugs), whatever.  History is redolent with lost party souls, devotees of using Neptunian substances to transcend/seduce/numb/delude/ghost out/cope.

marilyn-monroe-pills-jacques-grange

Vamypre Lesbos

And of course, you don’t have to be high to be delusional. Or mistaking temporary flimsy solutions for the structural/big change that is required.

Crack Magic

So when Saturn comes along to square Neptune (and the closest it has got so far this year was mid-March), the Haute Neptune stuff you’re doing right – striving to be magic but not crazy, patiently confronting compulsions and lower Neptune attitudes, monitoring omens, dreams etc – becomes BETTER. Genuine soul connections get stronger. Truly original work/art/ideas are productive. Saturn can augment the magic that is Neptune.

Remedios Varo

But if you’re insisting on maintaining some Lower Neptune style thought process, economy, relationship, anything – Saturn square Neptune is a bit more like this.

Bengal tiger (Panthera tigris tigris).

 

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Meredith
Meredith
Invicta
Invicta

Indeed!

syrynxMM Member
syrynx

Amazing how many people have commented on being suddenly sober/clean/vegetarian and all without seemingly trying. Same here, and all since saturn started squaring my sun and venus around the beginning of the year. That’s a t-square with Neptune opposing my sun and sitting on my progressed ascendant. Sounds horrible, thank goodness I hadn’t thought much about it last year because I would have freaked out but it turns out to have been wonderful. There has been a little bit of lower Neptunian stuff that stayed in the mental realm, a little bit of drifting dreamily through the days but saturn… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

“And then there is Lower Neptune – slippery people, co-dependent romances where each person relates to the other person’s crappiest dimension or you’re having sex with your dealer (art or drugs), whatever…” What if you are sinking into neptune quicksand, where everything is upside down, wonky, feels surreal, dishonest but no evidence, only instinct; so the remedy of patiently sticking it out?…I keep trying to see what will occur if I try a different approach, truth, candor yes with a new window on faith, morality… As for sex with the dealer…I am a zombie from consistent highs, too much fuel,… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Hang in there aquasunrise x

Invicta
Invicta

Jupiter in Virgo is benefic for me. Anti inflammatory / alkaline diet is amazing. Was tough to make the switch at first but now that Saturn shoulder has completely healed, I’m converted. Also my taste and what I crave has totally shifted. The idea of meat that isn’t fish is repulsive to me and that is purely physical, not idealistic. My body just does better on veggies and I prefer the taste. It’s weird. But good. Also the nicotine addiction has just vanished. Again, I don’t know why, I didn’t consciously even TRY to stop. I just woke up one… Read more »

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Sounds like progress. Good to see you back, Invicta.

Invicta
Invicta

thanks dizzarina
spent the evening cleaning out my inboxes as I have several
interesting to see the pattens in relationships retrospect and also how easy it is to get the system crudded up with junk
yes, that applies on multiple levels but right now I need to get my work space clear so I can write again
Good to have health back, now I want worky brain to work
Sun, Mars, Mercury in Virgo, have to make the most of Jupiter in Virgo year!

Invicta
Invicta

yeah last night I dreamed I was having sex with myself, in public, compulsively. It was embarrassing and I knew it was socially “wrong” but I just couldn’t help it. it’s a continuation of the same theme as before (transparent clothing etc) I get that it’s about creativity and vulnerability My waking reality is so not compulsively orgasmic Living in a state of anxiety and feeling like a total failure (Uranus conj Chiron in the 5th and Saturn conj Neptune as main personal transits) I suppose dreams are nothing if not compensatory in this regard. If I have anything, it… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

I haven’t been on much, its challenging at the moment, but are you still writing your book? Was looking forward to hearing further – hope you still plan too…

Invicta
Invicta

I haven’t either. Life has been intense.
No, I haven’t been writing. Hence the constant anxiety and feelings of failure.

aqasunrise
aqasunrise

Hi, sorry to hear so…it must be tough…I cannot say anything you don’t already know…admit I am awol at present, but really trying to pull my socks up…my daughter starts school which is fantastic opportunity for her, I have been encouraging her to read, and she has pretty much taught herself! That is the good news…how is your lovely niece, I think she was a god child or relative? The one that looks so eerily like my child? You seemed to be so connected with her… My instructor is away, and someone I really admired and loved too has suicided… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Hey hey Yeah I read about your friend who committed suicide in the comments. Really sorry for your loss. Awful. Thanks for the gentle encouragement. Its a weird moment. The Saturn / Neptune bubble burst in the big sky combined with my personal Saturn/ Neptune transit is quite interesting. It’s like delusion busting on steroids. Weirdly though I’ve let myself be pulled right back into the black hole of delusion lately. Maybe it’s my compulsion to understand it before I say I’m done with it, or maybe I’m just weak with him. In any event, I’ve been deep sea diving… Read more »

Anchors Away
Anchors Away

This Neptunian is ready. I think. Not really, but I’m actually finding blue devil hoochie juice is now making me physically ill, so I reckon that’s pretty helpful! Pentacles keep coming up in my readings which is reinforcing what I already know – I need some serious grounding. I’m going to print out my favourite Pentacles card and put it in a frame to be placed somewhere prominent. A constant reminder. Also a sentence floated into my head a couple of weeks ago that seems quite apt for the times. It didn’t seem to come from me, which was a… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

.. and thank you for the helpful hint, AA!

Anchors Away
Anchors Away

Oh god my moniker is AA! Judge, I swear that’s due to my Gemini duplicity, and not my Piscean tipple tendancies!

gemyogi
gemyogi

lol — gemini and Aussie — always want to either shorten names or use initials!

Anchors Away
Anchors Away

Just chuck an “aza” on the end and she’ll be right 😉

SleepfulInBrisvegasMM Member
SleepfulInBrisvegas

Patience is writ large every where for me at the moment. “Patiently confront compulsions” – ummm, yes. That’s an eloquent way of putting it in a nutshell. Learning to be with a new lover is kind of a mindfuck at the moment – getting to understand new sets of idiosyncrasies and establishing new boundaries. All the time while negotiating and establishing a new paradigm in my exisiting relationship. And trying hard not to over think and double guess (wrongly) everything. Saturn is currently lining up to transit my natal Neptune/Mercury conjunction at the same time it’s squaring Neptune. This is… Read more »

ReidrMM Member
Reidr

Frakkin’ love that you’re in my life Mystic.

PiMM Member
Pi

Yeah she’s alright ay bruh

Rosa
Rosa

Oh and I realised that the Satrun in Saggo iwill be conjunct my partner’s natal Neptune, any udea what that could mean?

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Illusion busting a go go

Rosa
Rosa

Interesting. This means Saturn will square my ascending – is this an impication of self improvement/ actualisation?

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

probably – but at the time it will feel like you are being made to run up a gravel slope with a 50kg backpack, through prickles with no shoes on…. but the view from the top is worth it 😉

Rosa
Rosa

Yaay..

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

I’m being plagued by Saturn Neck again and I have no idea why. Saturn is at present squaring my Saturn/Sun/Merc. I am not good at reading squares and I don’t understand the extra charts on astro.com but I think it’s also squaring (on the other side) my Venus and late Leo rising. Up in the middle of the night again. All the talk on the other post about relationships and dating stirred up some stuff. The truth is of course that I know I’ve put my heart out of bounds. I’m still fairly banged up emotionally after the marriage abuse/betrayals… Read more »

Melody
Melody

My heart goes out to you. Have you ever tried EFT or Psych K? I used to have (diagnosed) PTSD, panic disorder, and severe depression for years and those tools really changed my life. Interestingly enough, Stanford brain imaging research showed maintaining dual point awareness of both the negative emotion and a desired emotion was the only way to completely erase implicit memory. If a person feels sad or angry seemingly without reason, they have triggered an implicit memory. EFT is structured in such a way that it promotes that type of dual point awareness. At the same time, tapping… Read more »

ChrysalisMM Member
Chrysalis

Thank you for such a generous and kind response Melody. I have heard of both these things but not tried them. I probably need to get back to writing. I have a heap of material that needs shaping. I’ve thought about making an album of that period of time, all the songs that sprang from it. No easy task for a non-musician lol Part of the problem has been that so much about what happened was to do with secrets: my affair, my ex-husband’s unacknowledged sexuality, his reading of my diaries for years. Just horrible. I don’t feel I’ve had… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

sending love and light to you Chrys xx

as you say, facing the truth is the first step! well done

Melody
Melody

That sounds like a wonderful idea. Probably one of the best uses for pain is art. If Frida Kahlo hadn’t gotten into a horrific bus accident, she may have never become an artist. And the world would be greatly impoverished. I know what you mean about secrets. I haven’t used any of the things I have gone through except in the most oblique ways, only now do I feel like I am ready to start writing about it more. I have Cancer sun/mars/mercury on the mid-heaven square my ascendant, and I hid what I was going through all those years… Read more »

gemyogi
gemyogi

what an inspiring post Melody! and you’ve helped clarify my creative process as well — i’m drawn to making autobiographical art lately — have always wanted to pour out my darkest secrets to someone, and I believe if I do it though art it might help others as well as myself

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

I have to admit this summer was a tough one. I thought after Mercury in Retrograde passed that communications would clear up not breakdown completely.
I am watching a friend spiral downward in drugs, mental delusions and illness. But there’s nothing anyone can do.
I chose to take the high road not the low.
Watching others I care about further spiral out-of-control is difficult to watch.

Melody
Melody

I’m sorry to hear that, sending good intentions to you and your friend.

Scorpio_RisingMM Member
Scorpio_Rising

Thank you…like Marilyn he has some heavy Neptune influences, inner demons he is struggling with and at his age no one can legally step in and help him either.
You have to stand back. Tough love is hard.

Melody
Melody

I’ve been there too. Being willing to walk away and holding the highest vision of them for them helped.

PiMM Member
Pi

Ouch 🙁

davidlMM Member
davidl

9 years ago, my 3 babies were 3, 7 and 10 and still my babies now they are young adults. It’s weird frightening and glorious all at the same time. We had a celebration the other night and out of the 100 or so people there many were friends of my children, like a whole new generation coming into our lives. You can see how much Neptune and Saturn they have ahead of them. As Dali remarked, “the trouble with youth today, is that I’m not one of them”

Jessica McOmish
Jessica McOmish

This is a beautiful post.

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

I’ve also gone a bit postal with autistic moments lately. In a bustling space and I’ll be off with the twinkly lights dancing on the raindrops etc…

twinfishrising
twinfishrising

Just as lover from 2006-2007 visits me frequently this year in my dreamlife…in a much healthier form than was. Not exactly out of nowhere. I’d say out of Neptune. And we split up right when Saturn finished the final passage of my 7th house. ..

flowerchild
flowerchild

For starters, the Mars Chiron opposition is EXACTLY on my IC/MC degree as well as my Mars at 17 Pisces. Oh joy. Neptune is EXACTLY on my Moon, which is at 7 Pisces, and of course Saturn is squaring that. More joy. I’ve been feeling really shaky, emotionally, lately, but trying to not do lower Neptune. I can’t drink alcohol much anymore, because I get drunk very quickly since I had that surgery, something changed…. Also, I just get ‘weird’ when I drink, say and do weird stuff more than I used to, like I get possessed…. SO……I try to… Read more »

GemyogiMM Member
Gemyogi

This all sounds good, flowerchild. I mean your resolutions and actions. RESPECT for yourself is No. 1. and yes to sorting out debt, avoiding drama and nourishing yourself!

Pi
Pi

Always listening x
Yes I feel all this!
Mars and Chiron on those angles must be intense.
Neptune moon , I remember this personal transit. It was long and full of solitude and I felt a bit lost. But big glowing caverns opened up, in some ways.
That sober feeling. YES.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Flowerchild, the terrain may be rough, but I see you have a plan, a course of action. It’s wonderful just to see how you’re respecting and putting yourself first. Something I saw today made ne think of you- the accountability loop: recognize, own, forgive, self-examine, learn, take action. xx

ElectroMM Member
Electro

I’m taking a drinking hiatus too. I’d like to work on herbal cocktails – teas and tinctures. I have a few standbys but there’s others I haven’t tried that might suit me better.

Winter is the best time for inner space, isn’t it? The world is quiet and serene. Nights are long and the daily basics take a little more time and energy. Sounds like a perfect time to color some mandalas and clear your mind and heart.

Best wishes, flowerchild. xx

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Crack Magic is the funniest thing ever. It’s even the right color.

I have Moon Neptune, so I am pretty sure I have tasted the gamut of Neptune expressions at this point. I have no idea what all this transiting business is going to do to me. Should I grow a mermaid tail or buy a wetsuit?

I barely remember 2006-2007. I do remember getting knocked up on my birthday after drinking wine and margaritas. But it was planned. So a little Saturnine Neptune right there.

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Oops sorry for the double post.

sezalouMM Member
sezalou

Ha! I’m planning on getting knocked up too!

ElectroMM Member
Electro

Crack Magic is the funniest thing ever. It’s even the right color.

I have Moon Neptune, so I am pretty sure I have tasted the gamut of Neptune expressions at this point. I have no idea what all this transiting business is going to do to me. Should I grow a mermaid tail or a wetsuit?

I barely remember 2006-2007. I do remember getting knocked up on my birthday after drinking wine and margaritas. But it was planned. So a little Saturnine Neptune right there.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

What a great post. Love it! I have Sun opposite Mars in Gemini and Sag respectively, and have been enduring Neptune square my Sun/Mercury conjunct for the last few years. It has been a real delusion buster and I ended up having to really evaluate my substance intake and one relationship in particular for the sake of my art and life in general. I am glad Saturn is now on the scene but it is the work, so to speak (ironically Mars in my 6th). I had a period where I just felt I was floating, sometimes it felt amazing,… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

This is very well written. It’s actually hard to write about this kind of thing without becoming emotionally lost and talking in a circle. Made me click about my own transit approaching and the 2006-7 transit.

GeminianMM Member
Geminian

Thank you, how kind. For those of us with mutable planets it is a real game changer.

Ms.
Ms.

about 80% of my chart is mutable and saturn neptune is a key so it’s good to read your experience.

Pi
Pi

Oh god, thank you for writing this. X

curiouser and curiouser crabMM Member
curiouser and curiouser crab

Thank you. So good to read.

Ms.
Ms.

I don’t think my 2006-7 could possibly repeat because I was having one *hell* of an end of decade pluto transit, think Innana on the meathooks (real life near death experience) plus saturn square neptune squaring sun. Meh. Now it’s all going to be conjunct. Saturn will be on my moon, venus neptune squaring neptune opposite all my virgo planets, including Saturn, so this is going to feel very personal I think. I am actually tempted to find someone with better knowledge and ask about this because I know from my chart I have a real saturn/neptune learning curve and… Read more »

Pi
Pi

The astro auto corrects freak me out (astro = Castro, apparently, obviously a recent software update has erased all my spelling pre-sets and I even have to teach my phone how to swear again… I mean honestly.) It’s interesting the feeling about really wanting to come to grips with the emerging/upcoming astro details (I use that term in whatever way makes sense for you). Squaring up….so to speak. I clicked on a random past post recently and it was about self help books. So many wise commenters out there. Some of them felt very Saturn neptuneish. Where am I going… Read more »

Ms.
Ms.

lol 🙂 thanks Pi

gitanagalMM Member
gitanagal

So funny about the auto correct thing! I have recently changed professions from a blue hoochie centric biz to a more arts driven job. I still acknowledge wine is my beverage of choice, but I am focused on my health and don’t have to drink for a living- so I am changing my relationship with the alluring elixir and the members of the clan. I constantly get A/Cs Jupiter- julep, swell-swill, witch-wine ,slip- sip, battle- bottle , obvs some are mis type generated ,but some are random Like recently cordial and cork? I hear the Neptunium undertow

calisamgal
calisamgal

I feel like I’m missing a key part of all this, like I’ve got to educate myself about myself here. I’m a sun gem scorp rising and Aquarius moon. But the whole saturn aspect in my chart constantly eludes me. Like no matter how many astrodienst charts I run I just can’t see the Saturn/Neptune connections and it’s really frustrating my Gemini!

Lux Interior Is My Co-PilotMM Member
Lux Interior Is My Co-Pilot

Wow, I totally get this. The astrological themes in my dreams even support this–I was in a magical underwater world (Neptune) swimming with porpoises–except they were skeletons (but very much alive) so bones=Saturn, right?

Working hard in my witch garden, and trying to keep things magical but delusion-free.

maru67
maru67

During 2006-2007 the company I worked for was subjected to a hostile takeover and I reluctantly gave notice and went to a new company (then the recession hit). I also got pregnant in early 2007, so there’s that, but I doubt it’s THAT. 😉

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Crack Magic? How do you snort that?

PiMM Member
Pi

Yes I giggled at that. *orders one bucket*
*realises specifications are wrong for my situation*
*goes to return product*
*company gone insolvent overnight*

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Or tradies who suffer from plumber’s bum can fix up their bummers plumb with a nice bog job

Ms.
Ms.

fast lol

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

Seriously. Nep sq Sat forming a T-Sq with my Virgo Mars Pluto Venus Karma et al.

I find doing haute Neptune nebulous. Low Neptune for that matter. In my teenage years l was King Neptune. I was Bob Marley’s Adelaide Branch CEO.

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

hahahaha

JokermanMM Member
Jokerman

I only read Mystic for the photos.

Z
Z

That blue .gif is Nicole Kidman right?

PiMM Member
Pi

That’s what I thought. And also omg Kim basinger! What the. Wow.

Z
Z

It was in 2006-2007 that I met the person who in my young life I thought was my soul mate. Maybe he is? Oh, no, I’m kinda scared of this Nepture square Saturn thing.

Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon
Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon

FFFFFUUUUUUUUU…..
2006/2007 I upped sticks and went OS for half a year, had my first panic attack, got really sick and spent months and months getting myself functionally ok again.
Got totally sucker-punched by that Neptunian undertow, obviously.

I don’t think it helps that my Saturn is conjunct to my Sun – sometimes it can feel like everything I do/want to do has some kind of blow-back associated and no matter what I can’t step “right”.

Being a pleasure-loving Libran, I can’t help feeling that Saturn Is Just Mean and want to pout at it till it goes away/does what I want!

PiMM Member
Pi

It’s funny (as in exasperating) isn’t it… Like being a bohemian free-lover who suddenly has to show up for work in a Bavarian engineering firm. And it feels like Every Thing You Say And Do Is Wrong. Ugh. And everyone else including the chairs and tables seems to get off on telling you so. Finding a middle path of sanity, everyday awareness, and self-care between the constant setbacks and “Omfg HOW could I be so stupid / these people must live miserable lives” dynamic is maybe a bit of the key. But sometimes like driving an overloaded semitrailer through a… Read more »

Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon
Loquacious Air with a Scorpio Moon

Oh wow, yes to the judgemental-as tables and chairs! You hit it! Hopefully this time round I’ll be able to behave a bit older and wiser and keep my arms and hands inside the moving vehicle.

Um.. and I don’t know that I’d call it a “Cardinal sign thing” so much as a “Libran thing” really…..read Mystic’s sun-sign description of us again. “Whim of Steel” is so true I laugh and wince every time, in recognition.

Pi
Pi

Ahaha the whim of steel, its a perfect description lol

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

Pi, I love love the image of messy bits and pieces sticking out of the back of a semi being sheared off as you enter the tunnel …that’s pretty much how the last few years of Saturn action has treated me :-). Currently Saturn is directly on my natal Neptune and I have been er…inspired/invaded… by an idea that from a logical stand point reads as completely batshitcrraaazy – and definitely life changing. But I’m planning, scheming, scheduling and spreadsheeting the fuq out of it…I’m not sure if I’m succumbing to Neptune’s siren call and deluding myself that applying such… Read more »

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

and yeh, this decision does have over tones of the 2006-7 Saturn-Neptune scenario involving a brief but life changing “soul mate” type of encounter (I’m always suspicious of those kinds of interactions but hoping to navigate this potential project with far more nouse and a “well laid plan”…)

PiMM Member
Pi

Saturnplutoflux imho these are the BEST kinds of ideas! The ones that peg a glitterbomb in your heart and you have enough faith/aplomb/determination to see how you could begin to manifest that… So exciting. And makes us look forward to a glitter-bomby-future. I mean, not that these dreams have to be glamorous or innately jazzy flamboyant whatever but more that if they light a fire on our hearts, then we owe it to ourselves to investigate all possible ways to make this happen. To stomp on our own dreams let alone anyone else’s before they’ve even had a chance to… Read more »

saturnplutofluxMM Member
saturnplutoflux

Wow Pi, thanks for such an eloquent pep talk – if you don’t mind I am going to print that comment out and stick it on the fridge for those times when it just seems way too out there and flaky to even contemplate…:-)

PiMM Member
Pi

I might do the same, haha, I’m contemplating something similar!! Sanity checks never hurt once in a while but fuq it, what are your other options anyway. You only know if you start out. , a big fan of awesome long range plans working out. xxx

Calendula
Calendula

Saturn is entering my first house and transiting natal Neptune.. again. Last time around was pretty rough. The tiger in the grass image sums it up. Hopefully this time I’ll be haute all the way. How a Neptune Saturn square relates to a natal transit I’m not entirely certain. Super amplified? It feels like something big is coming.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Lately, I´ve been as sharp as a samurai blade, diligently laying bricks to (re) build my fortress. Doing haute Neptune-I now stay away from anything that could turn me into an amorphous energy blob. It is not (Saturnine) fear, it´s discernment- like opening a door and peeking at the Shangri-La illusions and not being tempted by them at all. However, the dreams I´m having would make Fellini envious! I´m fine with that. 🙂

Ms.
Ms.

are you having a saturn transit? nothing like meh to neptune when you are channeling saturn.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Saturn just had his THIRD and final pass over my Sag Neptune. Saturn has been hitting me since he was in Libra-square Moon, opposite Sun; then in Scorpio opposite himself and the 3 other planets of my Toro stellium. It feels like astro Muzak!

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

And I didn’t mention his involvement with Chiron (opposition), Pluto, Uranus and Jupiter (conjunctions). Oh yes, clean house!

Ms.
Ms.

I think I asked you this in another post a little while ago sorry. I just read what you wrote and went saturn saturn saturn. My mind is really full right now and not its usual memory. So you finish saturn neptune and then we all do saturn neptune. You’ll be a pro

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Ms., actually it was really good to write this down here. Even though I’ve been clocking Saturn, I just now realized the approaching conpletion of one of his cycles- am just waiting for the square to my Nodal axis (11degrees Virgo-Pisces). So, thank you for making me think about that!

Katycoyote
Katycoyote

Loving this- for me as a very outer planet person, its beginning to make sense that I can finally ground and work in the world with my Neptune (Libra in 12th house) because i have been through saturn in Scorpio (have saturn in Scorpio on my ascendant , innumerable illness of life threatening nature- after a wild earlier life- with some great achievements. Been forced to be still, to moderate, to get real!!! Enjoying celibacy by choice- and finally deciding to publish a website and do work online (in the past ran workshops in Shamanic work) (am part native american)… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

I had to grin at Coyote.. that’s what you do right. Either initially.. when you don’t quite understand the medicine or much later when you do. Not sure about that bit in between. I’ve had a few good does of him during a couple of periods in my life.. Saturn is on the cusp of my Sun for the second time this year Neptune is hanging out with natal Saturn in my 11th conjunct and staying that way for a bit before he goes to hang out with Chiron. I’ve had equal measure of things this year.. or perhaps a… Read more »

CentaurusMM Member
Centaurus

*Coyote .. not Coyoted.. although perhaps that works in a you’ve been coyote.. like getting stooged.

Melody
Melody

I married my (amazing) husband and moved away from my fun, tight-knit, and deeply dysfunctional family in 2006, so I anticipate good things. I like Saturn transits. Maybe because I have Saturn conjunct Pluto in the first house, so I’m just used to it by now, but my Saturn return was pretty great. I leveled up in my career, and really put myself together. It was somewhat harrowing at the time, but so worth it. Mystic, I just wanted to say, I am a new subscriber and I have been blown away by the accuracy of the horoscopes. You say… Read more »

icontainmultitudesMM Member
icontainmultitudes

Neptune is currently stepping all over my natal moon in the 6th…which means Saturn wants to tango!

This could be a rocky ride…thanks for the pointers! Definitely time to up the witchy-routine and put art making immediately after brushing teeth!

Linda Churchyard
Linda Churchyard

nice!?

NiaMM Member
Nia

I feel ready. Saturn is going to return over my natal Saturn 17º 6H (will this feel like Double Saturn?) and Neptune will square that while drifting over my MC 15º Pisces. “Psychic, guided, magic, idealistic & creative” definitely; writing/worldbuilding fantasy & sci fi novels, envisioning my new author career, gradually manifesting my perfect hermit-like retreat in the mountains, etc. “Whilst still doing our due Saturn diligence” making a new business plan, booking my creative day job a few years in advance, getting health check-up & biometrics, dental work, possible orthodontics (restructure!), fresh financial software and credit card, revived diet… Read more »

Katycoyote
Katycoyote

wow read my post- kind of snap! Good luck with it all

annica
annica

I can’t decide if i should be excited or terrified. The last time i experienced requited deep love was in 2006 but ended in summer 2008. I will never forget this person as they taught me so much about myself and life, but I am not sure I can handle a repeat.

krs3MM Member
krs3

I love the visual reminder.

And I had no idea that Marilyn’s doctor was Dr. FINGER. That is creepy AF.

ICPlutoMM Member
ICPluto

Yes the visual reminders are trippy!

And that her pharmacist was (Jackson) Pollock with a touch of Bailey(s) lol 🙂

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