Planetary Eras

Man Ray

This Jane Fonda interview in W Magazine examines – as do all articles featuring Fonda – her regime of successfully shedding skins and re birthing herself. Hers is an intense version of it – one decade “Hanoi Jane” activist in batik, the next clad in Versace with her boobs done as Mrs Ted Turner for example as she has Pluto on her descendant.

She literally cannot tolerate stale relationships and her identity is directly under the rays of Pluto. And her relationships are Plutonic so of course there is a fresh self revealed with each major relationship. People without a strong Pluto signature might see this as having a weak core but nothing could be further from the truth.

It would actually feel as relaxing and natural for her to phoenix as it would for others to stagnate. But everyone has these planetary eras. Some morph more strongly than others but who hasn’t looked back at an old photo of oneself and wondered who the fuq was that character?

Often you can time these morphs alongside the outer planet transits; Neptune, Pluto and Uranus. Through a particular house or just a sign. And usually, one of these planets is more boss than others. One of the fastest and cool ways to get insights into astrology is do a timeline – we will be doing this in Astro-Hacks – of your life with the big events & tracking them on an ephemeris.

I had a really chaotic & big 1989 – life was surreal and over the top that year, it felt like every time i left the house, there was an explosion. My relationships were just bats. EG:  my dinner companion being arrested over the entrees by a squadron of federal police. No sleep. My neighbor got murdered and when i went to his apartment to return the vacuum cleaner i had borrowed, i was questioned by homicide police.

I was given some uranium. I got cursed. I went to a shrink who offered me free therapy in exchange for sex (like he would have been a great counselor, right?). My manicurist invited me to a “voodoo coven.”  I lived like a vampire, soothed only by long, long walks in the dark. I tried to rescue lobsters from restaurants and would end up in hideous arguments with people who thought i was from another planet. I played backgammon with a Greek Sagittarius conman who said he would teach me NLP. I got poisoned by rohypnol or something and got to share my cubicle at emergency with a guarded prisoner in chains.

So strange times and recently i was like WHAT was that – it was Pluto square my Ascendant, that whole damned year.

Everything was so consistently weird, intense and challenging that whatever identity or set of drop-down menu beliefs that i had about life, dating, people, anything. It was just too raw and electric for anything unreal to survive.

Thoughts?

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gemleolib
gemleolib
August 6, 2015 5:33 pm

My desc is 19degrees Aries. So Uranus is going back and forth over that sucker this year and next. And also squaring my 10th and 4th. I moved out of my parents house after years of waiting and wanting. Also- letting my strawberry blonde hair naturally grow out without dye for the first time ever. Plus learned the magic of curls and red lipstick. Losing my job because the business is going under so currently trying to find another. Home- check. Self-Identity/Look- check. Job- check. Now onto relationships… I wonder what’s in store…

Electro
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Electro
August 4, 2015 6:04 am

Pluto is square my natal Pluto, and has been since about the same time Saturn crossed my Scorpio ascendant. I also have Chiron square natal Venus, and Saturn square my Mercury. I would say I’m going through an era of inner to outer. Natally, I have a fixed T-square, Saturn on my MC, and a secret spy Uranus in Scorpio on my ascendant. So, I’m busting out of all that self-censorship. Someone said that above about Saturn on the MC. I think Nono Sophia. Perfect. It’s a survival strategy that I’ve had for a long time, and it just doesn’t… Read more »

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0
August 4, 2015 2:00 am

Wow, major moment of clarity: trans Pluto has been opposite my natal rx Saturn. And sending rays to my Neptune-NN in Sagg, Mars in Scorp, Pluto in Libra, & Jupiter-asc in Pisces.

Doesn’t feel like a transit. Just a way of life.

Skarab
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Skarab
August 4, 2015 3:38 am
Reply to  AnkhRising8.0

Yes! your clarity has clarified my thoughts.

i didn’t even know where to begin with this. Pluto trine Sat in Cap natally. Sextile my Neptune.

Opp my chiron.

Uncle Pluto has played with me all the time. Was a bit rough when i was younger (squaring my Sun).
He calls it tough love.

He’s waving at me(sun) now from opposite … which is cool – but now Uranus wants to play too.
Is this when the strange turn pro?
I’m ready.

Just a way of life.

jojobe
jojobe
August 3, 2015 11:46 pm

damn mystic, you were the coolest in 1989.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0
August 4, 2015 2:21 am
Reply to  jojobe

lol

maru67
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maru67
August 3, 2015 7:27 pm

When transiting Pluto conj. my Scorp asc (natal Neptune conj there, too) occurred about 25 years ago, almost to the day my mother kidnapped my children and fell off the face of the earth, I became homeless and then attempted suicide (my Taurus moon was opposite all of that). No drugs or anything illegal like that, just trusted family and got screwed over big time.

tw:leo
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tw:leo
August 3, 2015 7:21 pm

sweet post! love your anecdotes, mystic. i am super plutonic. it shows up a lot both personally and outwardly; outwardly i think it kind of weirds people out/ mystifies them because i am also very outwardly sparkly-leo-sag. my midheaven is zero degrees scorpio and pluto is hanging out with juno in the 10th. definitely am familiar with the constant phoenixing re appearance. which is much of the reason for the aforementioned weirding-out other peeps but i wouldn’t be complete without it. i love transformation – in certain ways. sometimes i am really stubborn against it, which holds me back growth-wise.… Read more »

tw:leo
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tw:leo
August 3, 2015 11:44 pm
Reply to  tw:leo

oh, and i am just getting around to adding this thing i forgot:
pluto has been transiting my 1st forEVS. milling about over my loose uranus-neptune-saturn conjunction and opposing a dense pallas-chiron-jupiter-venus in the 7th.

and my 8th house is def having a party.

Alex
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Alex
August 3, 2015 6:40 pm

So what does Pluto conjunct natal Venus do to a person?

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
August 3, 2015 6:40 pm

I’m not having a Pluto transit – did have Pluto on my moon in 2012 which was an interesting year emotionally. I felt very compelled to move away from where I was living at the time because I wanted to get over a toxic ex. Pathological liar-levels of toxicity. So I moved to abroad to teach ESL. Went about as far as I could get. I guess that’s Pluto for you. Since then I’ve gotten a lot stronger emotionally – got over some co-dependency issues and self-image issues. Anyway, I am currently having a Neptune transit in opposition to my… Read more »

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
August 3, 2015 6:50 pm
Reply to  virgo kathleen

I take that back. I went and analyzed my chart some more. I am actually having a Pluto transit as Pluto is square my MC (and trine my Venus). So…that’s probably adding to my career troubles currently. Wonderful.

Anyone want to help me interpret this transit?!

LunaGreen
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LunaGreen
August 3, 2015 11:40 am

Can’t wait for Astro Hacks because if I’m reading my Natal chart correctly:
Pluto conjunct Sun & Sextile Midheaven/Saturn, AC & Neptune, Opposed Eris…yup.

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 7:54 am

i’ve seen a reaction to the “hanoi jane” era so consistently that i’m befuddled by. if you bring up jane fonda of 2015 to someone of a certain ilk they will RABIDLY go into a state of hyperbolic vitriol. as if she directly insulted them today. i could set fire to the air if i brought her up around some relatives. watching how people reacted and continue to react to that and so many other twists of history when i was aging had surprising effect on my way of interacting in the world. the lesson is inherently wrapped up in… Read more »

Pi
Pi
August 3, 2015 9:57 am
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

Love this.

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 4:11 pm
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

Yes. They do this to Malcolm X too. People love to talk about how ‘racist’ he was. I’m like, “did you even read his autobiography?” He lived through so much and morphed like a badass every single time. His description of Mecca is profound.

maru67
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maru67
August 3, 2015 7:35 pm
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

Yes. Very much so.

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 7:59 pm
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

if i had the same opinions and beliefs i did when i was 19 i would hope that someone would punch me in the face. i’m not sure if peeps around me got mystic’s zap zone memos, but they are holding on, white knuckling in the face of oblivion. as if you could turn off the movie titanic in the middle and just imagine everything went great for jack and rose and they are still together and have babies and live in a 55+ resort community. he golfs and she took up bunka and they just LOVE IT! rose made… Read more »

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 8:09 pm
Reply to  Mystic

i just logged in and saw the fun times. i didn’t check email yet. this is very ezzciting. thank you! i’m going into the woods for a few weeks, so when i get back i’ll have swam naked every day and be like “gimme some scent!” i’ll go check email now! thank you Mystic!

tw:leo
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tw:leo
August 3, 2015 11:46 pm
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

this is so rad

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 7:47 am

How does one identify aspects with numbers instead of symbols? When I go to astrodientist, I don’t think all the aspects are shown in the chart for transits because there isn’t enough room. Maybe there is an option to show the transit aspects only that I don’t know about? I haven’t done a timeline yet, but I have looked up a few dates. The day my brother died was huge for me and my family, but there isn’t anything that sticks out in the planets other than almost everything being in the very bottom of my chart. I’m wondering if… Read more »

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 2:19 pm
Reply to  Electro

When you bring up your “natal chart with transits” in Astrodienst, on the upper left you will see “Additional tables (PDF)”. Hit that, and on the bottom of the second page will be a matrix with the natal positions at the top, the transits on the side, and the aspects in the boxes.

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 3:02 pm
Reply to  dizzarina

i love that astro hacks is happening and i can smell all the new pencils and dust old ephemerides bought years ago that made no sense

my astrogeek level is HIGH

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 3:59 pm
Reply to  dizzarina

Aha! Thank you so much, DP!

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 4:24 pm
Reply to  Electro

My pleasure! Have fun geeking out…

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 5, 2015 1:00 pm
Reply to  Electro

Bonjour CP, with your brothers passing, have you checked out what his astro for the day was .. There wasnt anything that jumped out on my chert that day, but i looked at my Dads for the moment he passed (My Sister and I were there) Pluto was direct on ascendant and Saturn on his Scorp Sun.

leoliza
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leoliza
August 3, 2015 6:50 am

I’m having Pluto swing back and forth over my 6th house saturn…also had saturn all over my 4th scorpio moon/neptune and Saturn has been the most memorable so far …big changes: Son’s marriage, Fathers death, grandchild born…house flood, roof needed changed…Please get the hell out of my 4th (when Pluto hit my 4th found out we had termites lol. had to go thru that crap) Of course when Pluto makes its last hit to my natal saturn maybe i’ll change my mind about it ?? (also do these correlate? maybe the pluto over natal saturn is jazzing up that saturn… Read more »

Charles
Charles
August 4, 2015 8:29 pm
Reply to  leoliza

I sympathize with you, those outer planet transits can take forever, and they retrograde back and forth for years. I just went through several years of Neptune opposition Pluto. I still have no idea what the hell happened there (unpack that sentence carefully). Now I am waiting for Saturn to go direct, and away from opposition to my natal Sun-Moon conjunction for the very last time. At least Saturn moves quickly, compared to Neptune or Pluto.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus
August 3, 2015 5:57 am

GREAT topic! “And her relationships are Plutonic so of course there is a fresh self revealed with each major relationship. People without a strong Pluto signature might see this as having a weak core but nothing could be further from the truth.” I do not see this as weak AT ALL – double Venus/Pluto sig having a Venus/Pluto transit here! Seriously, my relationships have all been catalysts that served to slowly and methodically purge me of some toxic (inherited) dysfunctional shit. Let’s just say I haven’t had the best/healthiest role models in my life for love (well, actually anything really,… Read more »

Firefish
Firefish
August 3, 2015 3:10 pm

Beautifully put, think I’m doing the surrogate planet syndrome as well, laying low in chrysalis and ever so softly rocking and humming….

Charley
Charley
August 3, 2015 5:07 am

1. Jane Fonda is my favourite person ever. I love her SO MUCH. I always identify very heavily with what she has to say about life and in particular relationships. I think seeing her in Barbarella when I was 11 or 12 was a pretty huge awakening on all accounts.

2. Pluto square my ASC was 2010-2012 SO weird. All the time. Great stories, still some minor trauma.

3. I’m in a perma Pluto transit and heavily Plutonic, always phoenixing,

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 5:28 am
Reply to  Charley

me too..I always find myself standing there wondering why I’ve been so drastic in changes I’ve made. At the time it just had to be that way. Afterwards I think “fuck but that was intense. Why did I do / say that? It was so extreme.” But I am a person of extremes. I seem to destroy myself and regenerate each time from nothing. Other people seem to grow incrementally and I really envy them. I’d love to grow in measured, rational steps. I need to transform compulsively. It’s exhausting. Starting with nothing is the only way I can do… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
August 3, 2015 5:47 am
Reply to  Invicta

You’re not alone.

When I look back on my choices, the extremity is insane. But I needed it, my soul thirsted for it.

Not jealous of anyone I know anymore. I like me and ALL my experiences made me. I wouldn’t be the artist if I inched in increments… 🙂

Charley
Charley
August 3, 2015 5:58 am
Reply to  Invicta

Same, I always say I don’t do grey area and I’m envious of people who do BUT it’s who I am and I’m not going to rage against that side of myself anymore.

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian
August 3, 2015 4:16 am

In the summer of 1989 I spent a morning traversing the hallowed labyrinth of St Basil’s Cathedral in Moscow as a student-ambassador. I could have spent a lifetime doing that.

Pluto was in Scorpio (factoring in retrogrades) from roughly November of 1983 to November of 1995. 12 years of fixed, non-stop intensity in some area of your life.

In 1995 I completely leveled my entire worldview (Pluto to Saggo) and entered college as a young man transformed.

You can easily mark entire eras of your life by the slow passage of Pluto.

davidl
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davidl
August 3, 2015 4:03 am

Pluto in Virgo , 3rd House. I’m the one who everyone in my circle bring their presentations and proposals for editing.
I earn my bread and butter by condensing data into information so people can make informed decisions, and establish systems that can be replicated. Pluto in Virgo says any question can be answered in a single line if it’s the truth. Lies, vagaries and fluff takes thousands of words. Like the old tailors quote, never mind the quality, feel the width.
Love your reminiscing Myst. Life wasn’t so homogenized 30 years ago. I do miss those days.

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 5:02 am
Reply to  davidl

Ooh I also have that aspect/sign/house. I love your interpretation of it. There is something very meta about it- synthesizing lots of information into clear, useful language. Rather than data, this gift was given to me in more psychological realms- Pluto is in exact sextile to moon in Scorpio. In another life, I should have been a psychologist- people bring me their problems and I can break them down (the problems, not the peeps) into very clear language that acts as a mirror for them. Also, I attribute this aspect to my ability to research the fuq out of anything.… Read more »

Kell
Kell
August 3, 2015 5:52 am
Reply to  davidl

Love that you put it so well- “any question can be answered in a single line if it’s the truth.”

Pluto in Virgo in 10th here. Spreadsheeting is my bane- I have Cap on 3rd and Pluto transiting 2nd.

Pi
Pi
August 3, 2015 9:53 am
Reply to  davidl

The quote is “never mind the width, feel the fabric” ?
As recalled by my rag trade dad about the Jewish fash/textile merchants. Quality first. Worry about the dimensions later

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 12:48 pm
Reply to  Pi

Oh I’m filing that one … Sweet one liners have been about .. Studying insects, i found my first assassin bug last week and texted pic to my (most dry and excellently haute) toro study mate … ”Wow, my first Assassin bug !” and he texts back ‘ ‘And I thought we were in for a dull year – *wink”.

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 12:53 pm
Reply to  cosmic fleece

I”d heard something similar on Lock Stock and 2 smoking barrels,
”Now come on, let me feel the fibre of your fabric”.

davidl
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davidl
August 3, 2015 4:11 pm
Reply to  Pi

So I’m guessing you’re not the type to buy that dishwasher cause they throw in a free set of steak knives and .. Hold your money … Interest free for 5 years no payments till 2030. Call in the next 20 seconds and we’ll throw in a years subscription to Bizimum !!! 🙂

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 12:50 pm
Reply to  davidl

That Pluto in Virgo sounds hot David !
Merc Aries ears prick at short sharp one liners.
xx

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  cosmic fleece

Did you love the one dialogue in Lock Stock and 2 smoking barrels David ? My Gemini sister and i still call each other up with quotes from that and Pulp Fiction … Got any favs language wise ?

davidl
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davidl
August 3, 2015 4:28 pm
Reply to  cosmic fleece

I haven’t seen it ! I’ll watch it soon.
Here’s a quote my mother has on the fridge.
“No woman ever shot a man while he was doing the dishes”

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 5:03 pm
Reply to  davidl

Bless your Mum David ! I love it ! Whats her astro, i think i recall your lovely one (mrs. david) is Katakan…

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece
August 3, 2015 5:06 pm
Reply to  davidl

Might be ok for your boys, lots of f**k bombs ! some violence …drugs – weed, .. I sat down transfixed and didn’t move a muscle the whole time…xxx In my all time top 5..

maru67
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maru67
August 3, 2015 7:44 pm
Reply to  davidl

“Pluto in Virgo says any question can be answered in a single line if it’s the truth.”

Pluto in Virgo here, also. I decided a few years ago to revisit a traumatic event in my life, which was hugely therapeutic but OMG, the long story! I’ve finally got it down to a short sentence.

Pegasus
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Pegasus
August 4, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  davidl

Reminds me of the quote ‘My Tailor is rich’. Who said that?
Sammy Davis Jnr or one of the rat pack perhaps.

Alouetta
Alouetta
August 3, 2015 3:22 am

Pluto has been tracking and backtracking over my capricorny MC like someone doing a ten point turn in a cul de sac. Just get off it already! Yes I’m about to phoenix into professional me and go broke at the same time – what of it? At least I have all my teeth and a winning smile 🙂

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 7:19 am
Reply to  Alouetta

“doing a ten point turn in a cul de sac” is the best image. i am afraid i’ll be punished for imagining the god of the underworld driving a huge old cadillac poorly in front of my house, but it was totally worth the laugh. he is Fuqing up my lawn though. like spike on buffy, the windows painted black to keep out the sunlight, bastard has taken out the mailbox even. too funny. he’s on the corner of my sun and my nodes since 2012, so really, we might need to send old man pluto in for an eye… Read more »

Alouetta
Alouetta
August 3, 2015 2:46 pm
Reply to  Saoirse Kirke

Ha! What a jerk!
I once watched a little old man (he could barely see over the wheel) in a huge car carefully carefully take a corner at 10km/hr by driving up over the curb and onto the footpath. Some hipster guy had to jump back to save his foot. Pluto on valium.

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 4, 2015 5:19 pm
Reply to  Alouetta

hipster exercise. like moving parkour

virgo kathleen
virgo kathleen
August 3, 2015 7:09 pm
Reply to  Alouetta

Lol – you have a wonderful way with words. I had Uranus on my MC for ages while the Zap Zone was happening. It was super annoying – non stop evolution gets tiring after a while you know? At least I’ve switched careers thanks to that…

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
August 3, 2015 2:45 am

Mystic’s remembrances? Fabulous.

Grace & Frankie? Beyond fabulous.

Charley
Charley
August 3, 2015 5:07 am
Reply to  The Venus Fly

Grace & Frankie is amaaaazing.

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 2:43 am

I can be serious. Here goes. Pluto has had a huge impact on me. KatAsc 9° & 27° Sun. I had Cap SupaSquawk me to employment oblivion; 2008-2012. I met a multi Scorp ‘Reset Femme’ whose Sun, Moon & Venus trined my Sun; her outer Scorp stuff trined my Asc. She changed me even further. Funny that ‘agent provocateurs’ were a Cap and a Scorp considering it was Pluto in Cap. Nep Rx opposite my Venus, exact, & affecting the looser orb of the closeby Mars&Pluto is causing allsorts of inabilities to get things done. Plus NeptuneRx (dreams/hopes) opposite my… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 3:28 am
Reply to  Jokerman

The timeline thingo should be revelatory. Retro fitting events are amazing to see the perfect machinations of the sky. The opposing of my Asc by Pluto were intense. I really don’t what happens it goes opp my Sun or what to expect. So in meantime l got abovementioned Nep opp my 3 Virgo planets.

Give me a break.

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
August 3, 2015 2:11 am

wish I knew if I was having a pluto transit or not….cant wait for 99 hacks but a bitch aint one : )

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 2:27 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

Haha – love that tune. Scorpiodawn, go to astrodient -> it’s in the sidebar 🙂 Click on free horoscopes Click on extended chart selection Look up Natal and Progressed Charts or Transits Have a squizz Do this a few times till the squiggles make some sense to you. Figure out what Pluto looks like and where it is in your Natal Chart and your Progressed Chart, then look at where it is transiting. You should, depending on your age, be having some kind of transit action – Pluto transits are HUGE- I don’t mean to fear monger but after my… Read more »

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
August 3, 2015 2:41 am
Reply to  Invicta

ok i’ll try…I am familiar with astrodienst, its just figuring out the charts…im 39 so im sure somethings going on…im desperate to work it out…its quite frustrating but i’ll have another look…

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
August 3, 2015 2:54 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

ok so I’ve had a look….how do I know where its transiting???
my natal pluto is in libra at ten degrees…then I look under prog for progressing,and it just says 11 then the libra sign, then 35. ????/
aaaaargghh hopefully all will b revealed!!!!

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
August 3, 2015 3:01 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

ok I looked at my birth chart and transits combined and it looks like pluto is on my midheaven..ascendant??? and I remember mystic telling me this is so till 2017.

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 3:11 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

Oh wow.
Yeah 39 is totally the time of tradional astro mega transit action. They occur at different times for people, I think because the orbits are elliptical but don’t quote me on that because I could be wrong.
I had my Pluto transit start at 37 and I’m 42 now and in the 2nd half of my Uranus opposition so yes, check out the squiggles and identify the major players. Forewarned and all that..

scorpiodawn
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scorpiodawn
August 3, 2015 3:26 am
Reply to  Invicta

ooh exciting..i’m trying …still need help so I’m really glad im doin the course…can totally relate to not wanting to socialise etc….every day just seems mega weird lately!

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 7:38 am
Reply to  scorpiodawn

I am there too. I’m enjoying alone time or short hangouts with choice peeps.

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 4:48 am
Reply to  Invicta

Oh that’s really interesting re: your reaction to Uranus transit having to do with how Uranian you already are. Explains a lot. I also braced for my Uranus opposition (at 42?), but it just meant I was extra-itchy to get out of a confining corporate environment (my first corporate job, which did not suit me at all). It actually helped me to take action and get out. I have Uranus conjunct Jupiter natally, so I am already down with Uranian energy. That transit actually helped remind me who I am. Interestingly, I don’t think the same could be said for… Read more »

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 1:29 am

my dinner companion being arrested over the entrees by a squadron of federal police. No sleep. My neighbor got murdered and when i went to his apartment to return the vacuum cleaner i had borrowed, i was questioned by homicide police. I was given some uranium. I got cursed. I went to a shrink who offered me free therapy in exchange for sex (like he would have been a great counselor, right?). My manicurist invited me to a “voodoo coven.” I lived like a vampire, soothed only by long, long walks in the dark. I tried to rescue lobsters from… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 3:10 am
Reply to  Invicta

“It is what it is”.
I think in the past months l’ve realised this is the way forward. That is, work positively with what ya got and not be offended by your own makeup. I am talking to myself. A big lesson for me. Something l wanta get done before my Sat goes Return in 2.5 years. Thats right! in Cap!!!

Scorpio_Rising
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Scorpio_Rising
August 3, 2015 9:20 am
Reply to  Invicta

I’ve HAD years like this…just non-stop wtf weird shit…some years are quieter but I am a magnet for insane shit!

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 1:11 am

Wow, I have Pluto square my ascendant natally. When I tell people stories about my life I see their eyes go wide and everyone starts feeling awkward – especially me, as if I’m some kind of crazy freak and even I wonder wtf? My brother once told me I just shouldn’t tell anyone about certain encounters because it just makes me sound insane and as if I am making it up. Lately, the past two years, I’ve become a total recluse. Most especially the past few months. I just don’t go anywhere or talk to anyone. I’m not an anti… Read more »

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 1:22 am
Reply to  Invicta

I know about Venus retro and the rules. The trouble is I don’t care. The need to transform is so intense. It’s not just a physical thing but there is a sense of needing to present a more authentic identity to the world. If I totally backed my instincts now I would get rid of 99% of my stuff. Im looking at all the Louboutins etc and thinking “gross” I just feel for boots or trainers, (in a heatwave) a vest, beat up jeans and short, messy hair I cut myself. It’s really strange. On the inside..hmm. I don’t know.… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
August 3, 2015 2:44 am
Reply to  Invicta

I’ll take the Louboutins.

I won’t pay for them, though – for those prices they should at LEAST be comfortable, fashion be damned! WHY must they add that EXTRA inch (or two) and just murder ankles?

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 5:22 am
Reply to  The Venus Fly

you can totally HAVE them.
I can’t BELIEVE I have so many gorgeous pair of unworn stilettos.
It’s insane.
i look at them and I have no idea wtf I was thinking or why I had to have them. They just look stupid. And the fact that I have so many, all mounted on shelves in glass cabinets is even more insane.
I never, ever wear them..

Lady L
Lady L
August 3, 2015 6:27 am
Reply to  Invicta

Maybe you could approach a charity of yr choice, and offer yr unworn Louboutins to them to auction off to bidding public.

Could be a whole EVENT — and could run it via social media.

“Free the Louboutins” in support of …perhaps a charity helping women.

Unless you want to keep your Loubis as art. That indeed they are. Although I am totally WITH you re: boots, jeans and short(er) hair au naturelle! Sag Moon natally yeah!

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 4:39 am
Reply to  Invicta

Do you have Pluto aspecting your moon, natally? Can’t remember what sign your moon is?

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 5:13 am
Reply to  dizzarina

Moon in Sag, 12th house. No Pluto / moon aspects as far as I know… Pluto square my ascendant is enough of a compulsion button though. All my close friends – admittedly that’s not a lot of people, have Pluto square their moon and I totally understand the zero tolerance for small talk / shunning of whatever is cool in favour of what feels authentic. There is a deeply compulsive quality to everything I do and say. I can’t fight it. I took Gretchin Ruben’s quiz recently to determine my personality type and the answer was 100% “Rebel”. Resists any… Read more »

supakali
supakali
August 3, 2015 1:00 am

I looked at that 3 times before I read it as the plural of “era” and not another astral body like Eris or Eros 🙂

Chrysalis
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Chrysalis
August 3, 2015 1:17 am
Reply to  supakali

Yes me too 🙂

Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
Lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
August 3, 2015 12:44 am

Wow. I cannot wait to do the timeline exercise in Astro hacks!

Since Neptune has approached my Piscean asc life has been so much more Mystical and Synchronous and everyone keeps giving me druqs.

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 1:13 am

time maps are amazing for getting clarity around times when everything changed.

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 7:36 am
Reply to  Invicta

I need to learn how to do this. I know how to look up specific dates though and I guess that’s a start.

Jessica McOmish
Jessica McOmish
August 3, 2015 12:28 am

Amazing.

Heard this song again on the weekend and the lyrics remind me of my own Pluto transits.

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 2, 2015 11:53 pm

Hers were the first pair of boobs I saw in film. I could not sleep for a year. I was 12.

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 1:00 am
Reply to  Mystic

PE (Premature Elucidation).

I was in first year high school and could not stop drawing nude women after that. I got into trouble for it heaps. My geography teacher, who I crushed on (no surprises there), said I had talent. She said “Can you do continents? I said “I can do Tasmania!”

I just remember lying awake, startled, and what it all meant. KatScorp overload

Jessica McOmish
Jessica McOmish
August 3, 2015 1:47 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Um, what planetary era was that for you?

Jessica McOmish
Jessica McOmish
August 3, 2015 1:55 am

This is such a profound post and you’re talking about Fonda’s tits why?

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 2:11 am

1: lighten up
2: my first recollection of her
3: My first boobsthat had an impact
4: l am KatSun&Asc (breasts-hello!)
5: My Sun trines Jup ans Asc trines Nep – both in Scorp
6: Her name triggered a mammary.
7: l as horny as a toad

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 3:07 am
Reply to  Jokerman

I did wonder if there was a Kataka vibe but didn’t to sound “signist”
Being politically correct never became me 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 3:13 am
Reply to  Invicta

All’s good. I actually think Lisbeth is your natural name / persona.

Invicta
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Invicta
August 3, 2015 2:13 am

it’s none of my business so I should shut up but I think sexual awakenings and becoming aware of our reactions to things- (even breasts)- and how they have changed- or for the first time are pretty relevant.
The outer world often mirrors the inner. – thats my two cents.

supakali
supakali
August 3, 2015 2:32 am
Reply to  Invicta

yeah mama, do you remember the first time you saw a pair of tits in real life or on the telly? even for me (woman, no Kat) it was major! breasts are beautiful and I would venture that they resonate with us in ancient ways.

supakali
supakali
August 3, 2015 2:36 am
Reply to  supakali

sorry, I should qualify mostly hetero woman

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly
August 3, 2015 2:42 am
Reply to  Invicta

Hear, hear.

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 4:33 am
Reply to  Invicta

Agreed.

If this were a post about Sean Cassidy, for instance- no matter how profound the content, my first reaction would be: Looking at him was the first time I experienced that “special feeling”. And that is indeed a milestone in one’s inner life, of and in the physical plane.

tw:leo
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tw:leo
August 3, 2015 7:10 pm
Reply to  Invicta

yes!

catfish moon
catfish moon
August 4, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  Invicta

Absolutely!!! Goes with the Scorpio aspect of the past as well.

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 1:59 am

What site (ephemeris?) do l get that info from?

LunaGreen
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LunaGreen
August 3, 2015 11:16 am
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Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 1:34 pm
Reply to  LunaGreen

Ta

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 5:27 pm
Reply to  LunaGreen

So do you just print out what that day’s sky, whatever date, was like and compare it to your natal chart? As well as significant peeps at that time?

Alouetta
Alouetta
August 3, 2015 3:11 am
Reply to  Jokerman

Ha! Was it Barbarella? That film ruined me for normal anything. I still can’t look at dolls or lava lamps in the same way.

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 3:19 am
Reply to  Alouetta

Yes. I cant remember how it was done. Have not seen that film for a longtime.

Veronica
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Veronica
August 3, 2015 5:23 pm
Reply to  Alouetta

Ooh yes, Barbarella did it for me too! Watched it on late night tv when I was a tween…fell in love with the blind angel, and was very intrigued with the pleasure machine Barbarella fell into…

Pegasus
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Pegasus
August 4, 2015 6:35 pm
Reply to  Veronica

‘An Angle doesn’t make love, an Angel IS love’.
One of my have Barbarella lines.
And after she had an earthly orgasm with the furry man and got the tail of her outfit caught in the automatic doors..’No wonder they say it’s distracting’.
The other scene i loved was when the Black Queen is smoking ‘essence of man’ 🙂

tw:leo
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tw:leo
August 3, 2015 7:12 pm
Reply to  Alouetta

i remember my dad renting this from the video store when i was a kid. i wanted to watch it, but i also thought it looked trashy so was kinda like eeehh. (i was probably like 8 or something at this time – i already knew i liked boooobs)

hermes26
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hermes26
August 3, 2015 3:25 pm
Reply to  Mystic

OK so I know I’m wandering off topic a little but this post about sexual awakening just reminded me – I’d love to see Leonard Cohen’s astrology. I read his biography – apparently he hypnotised his nanny into taking off her clothes when he was 11 or something. According to the book he had an obsession with the female form. Also dedicated to immaculate personal presentation and wearing a suit every day. He reminds me a lot of my Virgo husband – Botticelli-esque fascination paired with a sense of repression and yearning. I think he’d make a wonderful study of… Read more »

dizzarina
dizzarina
August 3, 2015 3:45 pm
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Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 3, 2015 7:30 pm
Reply to  dizzarina

you’re killin me. neptune conjunct venus opp moon? oh god that is sooo perfect.
killin me

i want to go back to 2000 in Los Angeles now and shake my finger at him and go “AHHHHHH!!!!” and walk away

catfish moon
catfish moon
August 4, 2015 2:44 pm
Reply to  dizzarina

I love his music. His moon is conjunct. My descendant and his Lilith on my moon….his voice and sounds move me.

Saoirse Kirke
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Saoirse Kirke
August 4, 2015 5:18 pm
Reply to  catfish moon

i like the idea that our ascendants are in leonard cohen’s 12th house. for some reason this comforts me greatly. like, a place for virgos to be at home.

back when friendster was a thing, my exes brother (we’re all still friends aaages later) put the words to suzanne but replaced her name with mine. i felt cooler than shit that day

Jokerman
Jokerman
August 3, 2015 3:47 pm
Reply to  hermes26

Guilty

Electro
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Electro
August 3, 2015 3:57 pm
Reply to  hermes26

“Hallelujah” captivates me every time.

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