Italy Is A Venusian

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YES Italy Is A Venusian Country, as Carla Ciccone, Aries AND Italian (too much?) emphasizes eloquently.

When Venus Rules

While living in Rome a few years ago, I was hired to help an Italian screenwriter write the English version of her script and treatment. After we sorted out the details, I said, ‘ok, let’s draw up the contract!’ She laughed and shook her head. Drawing up a freelance contract in Italy is about as futile as attempting to be a vegan here. Like, why even bother?

I was confused, and my sturdy North American ‘business sense’ a little offended, but this is Italy, she explained, and business, like everything else, should be conducted with a healthy dose of ‘relax and enjoy.’

After that, I began to approach all Italians like they were the goddess Venus.

Even though Venus’s temple currently stands half destroyed among the ruins in Rome’s forum, Romans created and glorified the goddess of love, good looks, good sex and good taste with a certain lifestyle in mind. The conservation of that lifestyle is front and centre in everything Italians do.

One need only go to an Italian household for lunch to get a taste of this. The experience is often like being hosted by the Empress herself. She’ll likely make you a three-course feast, with wine and two types of water to choose from. You might discuss the weather and your health and how the air conditioner is to blame for your sore kidneys and the humidity outside for that cough you have. She’ll ask about your love life with a twinkle in her eye while peeling the skin off a fig, and then offer you espresso and dessert. After, you will be encouraged to rest on a bed or couch, sleep if you want, and recharge before taking a late afternoon stroll to ensure proper digestion and a bit of exercise.

The feminine divine is exalted. Beauty is worshipped in all its forms. From their handsome faces and impeccable clothes, to their stunning vistas and lovely language, Italians are born and brought up to live and honour the good life. Their minds seem programmed to operate from the outside in—that is—pretty on the outside makes for content on the inside. Or it should.

This is ‘la bella figura.’ Although it sounds like it could be a Fellini movie about a man whose conflicted emotions are at odds with his tortured mind, with several women central to the drama, la bella figura is a pretty common phrase that means, ‘the beautiful figure.’ It’s used to describe the effort to always present your life as beautiful, no matter what. Thanks, Venus.

The film, ‘I Am Love,’ with the magnificent Tilda Swinton playing the dissatisfied but immaculately dressed wife of a rich Milanese man is a perfect example of la bella figura. Her life, like much of Italy, is largely dedicated to maintaining appearances.

My parents took me to Disneyland when I was 5-year-old, and by the time I ran into Minnie Mouse’s arms, I had decided to stay there forever. Exhausted from sun and rides and soaring emotional highs, I broke down and cried as we were leaving. ‘I’ll stay with Pluto!’ I begged, pulling my mom’s arm towards the big dog, who was learning against a car in the parking lot. Just then, Pluto pulled off his mascot head and hands and a sweaty, human man with a dog body lit a cigarette. (It was the 80s).

In the same way, Italy is Disneyland for adults—full of all the earthly, and some holy, delights of life with less of the guilt that’s often associated with them. Italia-Venus will greet you with a smile and a warm embrace, like Minnie Mouse, and you will be consumed by your adoration for her and her offerings.

After you’ve experienced a place where the object is to enjoy the best of everything you see, taste, smell, hear and touch, it’s jarring to go back to cracked concrete sidewalks, oily pizza and frothy, burnt cappuccinos. Once Venus has touched you, you forever long for her silky hand.

But you should never, ever see her smoking with her head off.

Italy does high-Venus better than the rest, but when she goes low-Venus, she does it with as much gusto as she does everything else. Truth, clarity and sanity are sometimes sacrificed trying to maintain la bella figura. It’s common for marriages in which both parties are cheating on each other to have, ‘don’t ask, don’t tell, go to church with the family on Sunday’ policies. You can definitely live la dolce vita, but for the sempre-sweet, you must turn a blind eye to the sour. On a larger scale, this presents as an ongoing economic crisis, immigration problems, backwards politics, illogical bureaucracy, everyday thievery and massive mafia corruption.

Empress Italia has always swung between the agony and the ecstasy. She’s been conquered, praised, sacked, burned down and passed around by emperors, kings, dictators, politicos and Mafiosos, but she’s never really belonged to anyone.

Like the seas that surround her boot, and the winding river Tiber that runs through Rome’s middle, you can drink, touch, swim, and enjoy, but try to hold on and she’ll calmly pass right around you.

Even though Italy’s problems seem insurmountable, Venus raises a perfectly arched eyebrow when the New York Times runs articles declaring Rome’s impending ruin like it’s something new.

Roma knows better. She rises up, again and again.

Venus-ruled Italy always finds a way to maintain the beautiful life, even amongst the ruins.

Italian Soccer Team

The Italian Soccer Team arriving, elegantly, at the 2014 World Cup.

Previously From Carla Ciccone – The Empress & The Thief

 

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saraekaliMM Member
saraekali

Italian here, and I confirm everything. I’ve always thought of my country as this coexistence of beauty ad squalor, like a ripe fruit that’s red and shiny but on the verge of rotting.
I like it this way, actually, the way you have to adapt to live there…you have to keep ‘la bella figura’, of course, but you have to be ruthless at the same time, fight to stay afloat. I’ve always felt that if you can manage living in Italy for a while, and stay sane, then everything else will be a piece of cake.

PiMM Member
Pi

I reckon Carla Ciccone has it about right.
*orders second bowl of gnocchi for the day*

PiMM Member
Pi

Also I have decided to come to Italy whenever I need good soap – you buy the beautifully scented triple-milled huge bars of florence-made soap in Italy for $5 that sell in oz shops for up to 18, Wtf. Yes import but still! So.

ArielMM Member
Ariel

I’m currently in Bologna & finding all of this to be true… Money just slips thru my fingers here, usually in exchange for delicious food!
My sister has Venus rising and lived very happily in Italy for two and a half years, always finding the kind of hospitality CC speaks of here.

AnkhRising8.0
AnkhRising8.0

Lovely post for Lilith into Libra 😉

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Ah, yes – agrodolce! I have an abiding love for any/all food-centric culture(s), but Italy is pretty special, IMO. And how could we forget the ART?! Italy gave us masters such as Michelangelo, Botticelli, Donatello, Canova, and Bernini….could you imagine life without their works? I sure wouldn’t want to! My sister saw The David in person recently – she veers atheist and yet described viewing this sculpture in the flesh as being similar to a religious experience!

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

YES to your whole post! 🙂

Skye
Skye

I guess I’ll be the lone voice of dissent here. I hated Rome. I hated how the people would dress to the nines but the public buildings would be left to ruin. I hated the leering men. The chaos on the trains into the city full of brash angry working girls, struggling immigrants and pick pockets. The permanently annoyed shop vendors. The complete lack of comprehension when it came to the mechanics of a queue. The women desperately trying to retain youth ( there’s a fantastic documentary about how Italian women are still in the media as pure objects )… Read more »

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Rome can be very tough at first. It cares not what you or anyone else thinks- it is Eternal. But I urge you to give it another chance if you go back to Italy. The haute Venus is there too, and something more, something only Roma has. It’s really quite existential and haunting, Roma’s heart. I’m addicted.

supakaliMM Member
supakali

yes, me too, Rome is my favourite city, the winding cobbled streets with mid-cobble fountains, the random aqueducts looming unexpectedly out of laneways, I did not expect to love the the colosseum, but I was entranced, the forum, I long to visit it again now that I know so much more about the myths *sigh*

ps. food 🙂

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Yes. I did not expect to love it as much, either. In fact, my first visit, I didn’t- which was just a confluence of circumstances that made it difficult. But the next time… I fell in love.

The food… the ART, oh my god the art.

I actually had some magic happen there, too. May post about it later.

PiMM Member
Pi

Yeah, get out of Rome. Softer landings elsewhere 🙂 it is safe to say that all Italy-fans see the grime and neglect too, but the Venus factor adds rose tint to the lenses.

P.s. Rome remains the only city in the world where two men passing in a car attempted to solicit sex from me and a friend (both fair-haired in a city of olive complexions), we were standing on a footpath wondering which hotel to try next for a room, the only Italians we encountered asked if we were putas, lololol (I shouted at them to fuq off of course)

PiMM Member
Pi

Just the affrontery and also , weirdly, disappointment at the locals (assuming they were locals)

Skye
Skye

itll probably be a long time before I can afford to go again and see if I can gain a different perspective. Im not sure if disappointed quite covers similar encounters with locals that my friend and I had… We were on a bad run. Our luck mostly extended only to being able to keep moving in hope of a more positive turn. I really should check back to see what the Astro was at the time.

janephrey
janephrey

Beautiful post and from my experiences from Italy, I totally agree. 🙂

InvictaMM Member
Invicta

So, so true and so eloquent.
Fabulous post.

Lady L
Lady L

Italy is on a level of its own.
Pure magic.

It’s the only other country I’d ever consider emigrating to, but because of language, I (happily) chose Australia.

My surname is Italian — from the Florence area on my father’s side, although sadly no-one in our family speaks Italian. I will never change my last name!

Thank heavens for the large Italian immigrant community in Melbourne that changed gastronomy in Australia, and contributed hugely to Melbourne’s character and culture.

Check out documentary ‘Lygon Street Si Parla Italiano’ — a magnificent, humorous and deeply touching glimpse into Melbourne’s Italian immigrant heritage: http://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2013/11/21/lygon-st-si-parla-italiano-shannon-swan-angelo-pricolo-interview

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

Agree! The culture and food in Melbs has been enriched by the waves of immigrants- not least the Italians!

We in Oz are so lucky lucky lucky! The cultural mix has created an exciting world were we have the weath of all worlds Nonnas and the newness to allow us to create in new ways without the weight of tradition and history.

PS it’s not just Melbourne…..

Lady L
Lady L

I mentioned Melbourne as it had (and has) far bigger number of Italians than any other Australian city (and this is a post about Italy).

You’re right. Lucky us indeed re: the brilliant multiculturalism in Australia. …Not only in relation to the food, but way beyond that. It is something we should treasure and protect — not something to be taken for granted EVER.

Diversity rocks!

Year of the Phoenix
Year of the Phoenix

: ) I guess going to Catholic schools we had heaps of Italians and Greeks so was exposed to unbelievably yummy pasta and home expressos from besties mums in the Deep South of Brisbane – Melbourne gets the undisputed (sorry Sydney) food capital tag but the whole country has all these great pockets of food and mashups of culture that are interesting in their own ways

Lady L
Lady L

Agreed Year of the Phoenix!

Anyone living in Australia can count themseves very very lucky.

I have family in Brisbane and they absolutely adore it.

I sometimes pinch myself and I can cry (with relief, gratitude, happiness) when I speak of this country.

The exception is Tony Abbott— when it comes to him, the tears are of disbelief and irritation!

Year of the Phienix
Year of the Phienix

Yes Kady L then there is Tony and his disciples…..

Jokerman
Jokerman

Pro rata Adelaide gives Melb a run for its money. Witness the Calabrian connections between Adel n Griffith (NSW)

Pegasus
Pegasus

I DID witness them!

marvelala
marvelala

this is amazing, thank you for sharing i have to admit i have yet to fully cultivate and max out on my taurean ascending–all the other signs are just too loud and obvious (saggo sun, cap moon, aries mars, venus scorp)–but this resonates so much and contributes well to my personal mission to amplify my sun-rising nexus (my jupiter is in taurus after all!). graceful and fab resilience! never really had sympathy for the woe is me struggle anyway.

MethinkyMM Member
Methinky

Oh man, the Italians are amazing, they know how to do it – all I can think of is food and wine. Amazing soil and sunshine, for amazing grapes and tomatoes!

Rosa
Rosa

Lovely. I was in Italy for a month earlier this year. It was a very romantic experience. My partner and I just went wherever and whenever we felt like it e.g. ‘Want to stay another night in Florence?’ ‘sure, we have nowhere we need to be”. It really appealed to my Venus in Sagittarius the 9th house. No plans, just go where the wind takes you and enjoy every moment, without structure or expectation.

Jokerman
Jokerman

I have Venus in Virgo and dont get much into what most on here would consider beauty; clothes, etc. Apparently Italians are good at it. (I wanta know the facts and does it work; that is issues of practicality)

Beauty for me is in cars n bikes. Italian cars are considered beautiful; so bloody what! They are function follows form bullshit.
Give me a Porsche anyday. Form follows function- the right way around.

Pegasus
Pegasus

As far as practicality goes with dressing a man ‘the Italian Way’ is about the best fabrics and cut. THAT lasts forever.
Do your Capricorn bits. An Amani suit and women will follow you anywhere. Chino slip ons sans socks fuq off the socks.
Cashmere and cotton (or linen) blend T-shirt.
It’s about how the fabrics fall over the body, skim.
White fine cotton shirts, black Calvin jeans….
Swiss cotton under knickers Jocks are they called.
CK also know about them, he probably had an Italian Nonna. That’s all for now I’ve started dressing you.
🙂 🙂 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

I got Sat in Cap. How does it work.
To me if its Cotton. Clean. Comfortable then lm happy.
But your reasoned response intrigues me…..

PiMM Member
Pi

Cotton clean and comfortable sounds kataka Virgo 🙂 To add some continental venusian, the idea is to keep the lines clean, modern (enough) and flattering the body. And a better quality yarn/textile makes for a better drape , it sits well on the bod because it is designed well, cut well, stitched well. Clothing like this wears longer, looks cooler when it does wear out a bit, and frankly it’s so damn comfortable and adds enough x-factor that you don’t want to take it off. That’s what good garment design is. Of course you usually pay some extra bikkies for… Read more »

PiMM Member
Pi

And shoes. Gah

annica
annica

No love for Ducati or Aprilia? :3

Jokerman
Jokerman

Went on a car tangent.

Ducatis are 2nd greatest bike. R Series BM is da bomb. Excellent build quality/ Teutonic smarts gets them ahead of Ducatis magic cornering. Just

annica
annica

I went a googling and wikipedia says ducati was originally italian but also is owned by germans! Gasp! I had no clue!
But yes, slightly regretful for selling my vintage 80’s Beemer bike.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ducati basically owned by Germans; VW Porsche Audi Conglomerate.
I love Dukes for their handling and torque motors. Twins are magic bikes to ride. Beemers for their technical execution. All parts made so well that is manifest in road holding, handling, braking and cornering. Beemers and Porsches work almost as well as the Astro.

Saoirse KirkeMM Member
Saoirse Kirke

blindspot.

so i have been tryinggggg to understand venus. especially this cycle. so i’m watching the conjunction as if i’m going to get some download.

it just, just now, after i can’t imagine how long, occurred to me that i was born right before the superior conjunction. i should probably study this. oh 12th house

So Much ScorpioMM Member
So Much Scorpio

I was married to an Italian and have two exquisite daughters from the marriage. My second – who is only four – is the embodiment of a sybarite. His family is from the south and I’m convinced she has some DNA directly from those who lived in Sybaris at its most hedonistic. We live interstate from him and his family so contact is not regular, but her diva like antics, tactile nature, desire to create and wear fabulous outfits to pre-school, caramel skin ….. well, she isn’t getting any of that from her maternal Irish Australian DNA/daily influence in semi-rural… Read more »

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Beautiful piece.
Remember Madonnas 80’s shirt ”Italians do it better” ?
Aries Mum and Leo Step-Dad currently holidaying there.
Gemini sister and I fear we’ll never see them again.
They are blissed out and last session skying,
was from bed, looking way to lusty !!…

Pegasus
Pegasus

This post brought that slogan to mind….late 80’s if my memory serves me.

Pegasus
Pegasus

And if one of the cousins was wearing one, mine wouldn’t have been such a faux pas 🙂

Pegasus
Pegasus

Just this morn i posted to FB the place of my father’s birth Toarmina. It said how magical it was. That started a ‘must visit the rellies before my time is up. Beauty? The Italians are known for their love of Beauty (and i thought mine was from Libran Moon midheaven 🙂 That many course feast described is what i have experienced when visiting cousins. The young cousins (at the time) were ‘professional virgins’ i.e. virgins at home and do what thou wilt on European holidays away from les famille. What impressed me were the heels & dresses worn to… Read more »

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

Don’t forget the obligatory gift. Wogs are BIG on the gift-bringing in some capacity, especially the more…traditional ones? Lol. I’m the opposite, bring no food, as the 10 dishes on the table I have cooked all compliment each other and the palette ;P @WogaliciousTilIDie <3

Pegasus
Pegasus

hahaha you politically incorrect Wild Woman. Love that word! Although there was a time it broke my heart when at school and the word was used, as i was ‘passing’ as a green eyed summer blonde, ok ‘dirty blonde’ and no-one knew i was half wog! But by jeez i used to covert those gold antique pierced earrings the children wore to school waaay waaay back in the 50’s when it was super rad 🙂 *****sigh*****so many exotic countries to visit- so little time, anyways flying isn’t as lush as it used to be, i tell myself when i get… Read more »

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Yeah I had to look up that word, and to be honest I’m struggling to comprehend how a former a former slur is now a term of affection as per wikipedia.

Here in the US, the term ‘wop’ is a terminally archaic term, as us Italians have infiltrated every aspect of American life.

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

edit: redundancy.

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

I’m a full-blooded wog, I iz allowed. Skips? Never. I don’t believe in being PC but I DO believe in NOT being an asshole.

I never passed growing up. I insisted you say my name correctly since age 12. “If my father can learn 5 languages, you can learn 3 syllables” was my retort. Than I moved Stateside and now everyone in O-Z thinks I’m American.

I exorcised me demons during my Cultural Studies degree. Goddess it was great to stick it to the oblivious Anglo’s and have my professor, and history, back me up.

*fist pump*

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

“Aries AND Italian (too much?)”

Had to laugh at this. I am Aries and Italian(American) and often use this to explain my more, uh, enthusiastic (bombastic) qualities.

Love Italia and love this post. Italy is the only place I can eat pizza, pasta and gelato all day and still lose weight.

dizzarinaMM Member
dizzarina

Also- is that Claudia Cardinale in the photo? Such a beauty, with the most enchanting raspy voice. Loved her in 8 1/2.

Pegasus
Pegasus

It surely is. She has the cutest teeth. Pity she was taken advantage of in her dotage by a very young Spanish man wanting her fortune..married her by proxy which i believe is illegally legal as she has had to hire a myriad of lawyers to dispute it.

WillowJoe
WillowJoe

It was Gina Lolobrigida that had the fuss around the proxy marriage

Cardinale has been with her current partner since 1975.

Pegasus
Pegasus

Of course it was Willow.
All those Italians sirens of that era, whose names meshing during MY dotage 🙂

WillowJoe
WillowJoe

I know what you mean. So many hot Italian gals of that era, of a similar ilk, it is easy to mix them up.

Apparently the court case regarding the proxy marriage is taking place next month, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

The Venus FlyMM Member
The Venus Fly

I am European, I am Venusian, this ‘speaks’ to me. Even had to throw in Tilda’s magnificence in ‘I Am Love’ as well as Goofy (whomever played him on July 10 2009 at Disneyland, CA gave INCREDIBLE hugs) to clinch the connection, huh? :p

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Italy was always been pivotal to prior work, still connected to art visions, a community of people I served are still in in the background of my life, and I do miss the business, chaos, passion. Great experience… Slightly adjunct to blog topic, but pure bliss vibes yesterday; venus conjuct sun, trine uranus? (ransiting 12th, 8th my houses) mercury trine pluto (1st, 5th for me)…hallicinatory – neptune flavoured, wonderful… At beautiful event under moonlight, ice skating, with performance artists, pretty lights, and muscians playing crazy calpyso beats outdoors under the night sky…pure magic! Eclipse was opposite my aquarian sun, so… Read more »

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