Could Venus In Leo = The Return Of Offline Dating?

Ellen Von Unwerth

Could Venus in Leo be the advent of offline dating?  You never know.

I saw a Cancerian woman today i don’t see so often and she was ecstatic over her new lover, an apparently true romance, no doubts about it and this after a solid long stream of disappointing encounters or just drought.

So, everyone was asking her, how did you meet this character? Tinder? E-Harmony? Like, what site or app?

Well, it turns out she’d gone totally off-reservation and out of bounds with the “go slow” “rules” school of thought – they’d meet at a pub, she was drunk, he was drunk, she’d approached him (a fellow Crab) on a dare and then gone home with him.

Then she’d pestered him straight after as to whether or not this meant they were committed and demanded a second date. She’s physically intrepid but usually favors the more “total disdain/don’t act interested” method of mating politics.

Something clicked with Venus into Leo, she decided to reset her vibe to “haute slapper” and the two Crabs have barely left one another since this most old-style of couplings.  They were never even Facebook friends.

Thoughts?

 

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Ayin
Ayin

Yeah we’re all raised with this great romantic idea of meeting someone on the street, cafe or store and go on a date from there on but in reality this actually almost never happens. Unless you’re in touch with your own feelings, get rid of insecurity and compliment people you meet! That’s wonderful and easy living.

Ayin
Ayin

BTW, why don’t I show up with a ‘subscriber’badge next to my name? I am subscribed :p

Ayin
Ayin

nevermind, just saw the subscription didn’t renew so I manually did it!

geminirising
geminirising

ill give ur theory a try this weekend, ill let you guys know 😉

Pi
Pi

It could be my moon in Capricorn speaking, but I remember one of the oracles answers to something dating related being ‘join an online dating site and be practically sociopathic about who you decide to respond to’ – not a direct quote of the answer but you get the idea. At the time I thought, argh no way. But then, many moons later, there i was on a dating site and thinking ooohh right now I see ha. Didn’t last long though: I just didn’t have the headspace no time for boys but ohhhhh LOL. Damn

Pi
Pi

It was interesting though. People are so willing to bare heart and soul on the screen (I tried not to, treating it as an arms-length experiment helped). Somehow the provision of a platform to declare yourself to the world means that details we’d normally learn in a more idiosyncratic fashion are laid out on a plate and put in front of us. Getting to know someone is both less and more work. Personal magnetism, grace and radiance are filtered out through the template-format of the dating website, and the ability to charm and beguile comes down to a few great… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Also how do you know someone is not scrolling through your profile while they are sitting on the loo. Definitely NOT a desired Venus in Leo situation: no control over the setting in which one has an audience? Lol

Pi
Pi

Note, I also have this site right here as an example of baring hearts and souls, haha, but I suppose we’re not advertising here like that

Niki
Niki

What if I didn’t meet this person through a dating app but a language exchange app? Does that count? Haha.

lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

Venus in Leo–be like a demanding impatient pussycat.

lux Interior is My Co-Pilot
lux Interior is My Co-Pilot

I love stories like this. GO GIRL.

Taurus Vixen
Taurus Vixen

Yes!!!! for old school. I am so over the online dating attempt.

Kataka on fire
Kataka on fire

I REALLY think you’re onto something here Mystic, I’ve met three guys lately (not all potential “dates” for me but great fellows)
1- met on a walk in a group
2- number 2 refuses to even own a smartphone
3- met at a conference

I will not subject myself to online dating. Or even “dating” and I’m getting the feeling many people are sick of the whole circus and there will be a return to good old fashioned stuff…those that aren’t sleezebags anyway!!

Flowerchild
Flowerchild

Offline dating sounds good! I’ve been heavily online dating this past year and it has been mostly really fun, but difficult in its own way and now I’m completely burned out on it. I get to a point and I just can’t keep doing it.

I’m Aqua and Venus is exact opposite my sun right now at 10 degrees.

Just today I texted to get back in touch with the only guy I really liked a lot that I met online this past year. I hope we re-connect….

hdq
hdq

isn’t he a taurus? so venus retro will get both of you all summer. with the very slooooow pace 😉

with you on the burnout. it just gets too much, energetically. you really do put a lot of yourself out there. it does feed the ego, and i had a lot of fun and real heart connections too, but i wonder if the calculation is worth it in the end. xxxx

Flowerchild
Flowerchild

He texted me back already! We are going to reconnect. Kind of a mixed blessing….we’re aligned in many ways and have that ‘sexual napalm’ aspect and chemistry but there are some misalignments too that prevent it from moving forward as a relationship. that’s why I walked away last November. I may be playing with fire… The slow pace of venus retro might be a good thing with this situation then.. He is Taurus, yes… Slow pace seems to suit him, but it’s also about keeping things from developing… I see what he’s doing….anyway… I like the point you make about… Read more »

hdq
hdq

i’ve fallen in love twice via facebook, the karmic crab and my most recent gemini quadruplet, which i think is different than dating sites. there’s a chase, a risk of failure, and a clearer picture of the person’s life. all of which are absent on dating sites. i like evaluating people on how they relate to their peers, and dating sites are just hundreds of guys throwing themselves at you, saying what they think you want to hear. nope. i haven’t looked at one since last nov and haven’t missed it. however, i’m grateful for the experience. it got me… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Lol all the nopes

PlutonicUranian
PlutonicUranian

Venus in Leo gets close enough to sniff. The nose never lies, nor is it ever fooled.

R(Aqua/Tauri)
R(Aqua/Tauri)

I think that women taking the lead offline have a total advantage now. I am an extreme introvert and I still think this and sometimes attempt to test my theory when I’m feeling slightly more brave… where I live men are afraid to open doors for women and split checks because they’ve been criticized for these nice gestures before and it seems any guy who approaches a stranger is labeled a “creeper” so there is very little flirting in public going on but everyone is glued to their devices. So in this strange climate it’s become up to US GIRLS… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

There is a discordance in today’s cadence
and among the decadence, there is amazement.

We all need to where a hat with two adjectives followed by a noun. Common courtesies are trampled.
Ive been sworn at for being nice and been abused for uncaring. Trying, in one case, AND not trying, in the other, to help ppls who suffered shopping trolley/cart malfunctions. In the same month.

Pi
Pi

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, maybe the trick is to do what feels right for you and make the decision that that is what counts in the end, not the other persons response to your extending a courtesy (not that uranians are overly invested in other peoples responses afaict 🙂

Jokerman
Jokerman

I’ve retold the story caricaturising their reactions. I was initially taken aback but then l thought, “Allsorts [of peeps]”

hdq
hdq

You’re absolutely right, and it’s wonderful and terrifying and empowering at once.
Creepers do exist, but they’re generally older and not tech-savvy. I think this is progress.
It’s also a cultural thing – there are certain places and races where every. single. dude i pass hits on me, loudly, and others, exactly like you describe.
it’s an interesting time 🙂

Lo
Lo

I don’t use Facebook and I can’t do online dating! In my experience there is always some level of deceit with online profiles …unfortunately, I cannot sum someone up via online profile! It’s a phobia of mine. And boy is it getting hard to meet people the old fashioned way. Ppl are looking at their phones instead of who is in front of them! That being said I have a creeper of an ex who follows/creeps/trolls me from time to time. He is dumb enough to think I don’t know it’s him? Anyway, it’s sad that I had looked all… Read more »

Tonezilla
Tonezilla

MY CHRIST I HOPE SO!!! So effing done with online dating. I torched the Tinder app five months ago and haven’t had a date since. I’m just going to have to start approaching dudes, I think. Trouble is, I can’t get liquored up to do it and I never learnt to flirt and I have resting bitchface.
Any peeps got some executive flirt tips they can share?

jojobe
jojobe

but, good on her!! maybe I should be targeting crabs!

Invicta
Invicta

lol
that sounds wrong on so many levels 😛

Prince Stolas
Prince Stolas

If this Cancer girl is under 30 y.o. i’d be mucho impressed for dating old style. Chicks like me though, we don’t have a choice. There is no way i get any attention online. People select out matches based on age and my age gets overlooked except by 60 y.os pulling oxygen tanks and 18 y.os looking for a cougar experience. I want to love venus in leo seeing as it will go over my vertex, but tbh it has never brought me anything with staying power. My only hope is saturn.

jojobe
jojobe

i do agree, us yung cancerians wind up pulling at parties as is our peer norm way more often than is ideal–if only bc we ((I)) tend to get attached.

I will never forget having the “what are we doing here ?” convo with a f buddy ((TAURUS)) who looked as though he had never been more scared. at one point he actually said the words, “well this is awkward, isn’t it?”

Invicta
Invicta

ooops!
Not quite the response you were looking for eh?

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I would have said this was cynical until I experienced it for myself. I am 50 and chose not to lie about my age, why would I start with a deception? – and found routinely that blokes of my age were only interested in women so much younger than themselves. Why? Because a grown woman would see through their bullshit. My friends who do date online routinely knock five years off their age, to widen the pool. My view of online dating is that it’s like the sleaziest bar I ever went to in my (first) dating days. A bunch… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

I have to agree though I have never courted or been courted by anyone online…internet dating is truly suspect…Recently I went out with women in the early 40s, some were having sex with men from a dating site for married folk…It was bizarre as I don’t think anyone seemed thrilled with it, maybe the sex as a physical outlet, but what of the all crap that sticks? Because I am in a reading frenzy (body transition, menopause, sex, fertility…) I read something interesting from Leslie Kenton’s idea of the “bloodless revolution”, (I am coming up to 48), and I think… Read more »

Prince stolas
Prince stolas

One of the good things about the millenial plus younger peeps is that they think differently and are not as hung up about madculine bias.

Skye
Skye

In my short stint there I found the same.
you describe it perfectly

Prince stolas
Prince stolas

It is exactly as you say, i *could* lie as i do look younger than my numerical age so i force myself to be seen, but then what? If something good works out, I’d have to out myself as a liar, and not just 2 or 3 vanity years which could be forgiven easily. I feel like i spent so much time nourishing myself, working out and caring for my physical self and now it is pointless because i am getting filtered out by age. The only way to even the playing field is in person. And btw i do… Read more »

Hermeslove
Hermeslove

Yes it’s the new wave , recently I had a beautiful meet up with an sexy intelligent beautiful young ladie . She leaves in another city near by came in town for a business meeting . Called me and ask me out for a drink . We met when she came in to my gallery ,.One thing she said and I agree . I like the idea that I can look into your eyes and be in your presence . This on line dating stuff is not for me . She also said I called her father and told him… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

Hey that sounds like one of those urban myths! I LOVE IT! Girls who break all the rules are my kind of girls. And actually a lot of guys do like it when women take the lead. Personally I am so bored with all this “playing it cool” crap. The boy I met during my first 4 minutes on Tinder, the guy who removed his profile after getting my number is great. Really, he is perfect. Polite, smart, fit, a knockout in bed and I mean, from a woman’s point of view. The dude is well trained or just a… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Is this Scot Leather dude?

Invicta
Invicta

Aye

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Damn u. Enjoy all that tennis bod, dear…ooh wee! <3

MutableMabel
MutableMabel

You never know what’s going to work until something finally does.

EVB
EVB

My mum often said, she had 6 daughters, you won’t find your true love in a pub, unless you want to meet and mate with an alcoholic. I’m sure if she were still here she wouldn’t agree with shopping for love on the internet either. She advised us to absorb ourselves in doing the things we loved to do and in this way we would meet someone who was out there in the world doing things they loved to do that were simpatico with our loves. She was very right. I’m a party girl, I’ve only ever meet other party… Read more »

Invicta
Invicta

I’m inclined to agree.
Having looked in pretty much every wrong place in existence.
I do think following your bliss is the best way to find someone who is into what you are into.
There are exceptions obviously but they’re called exceptions because they aint the rule.

Skye
Skye

Mum was a smart cookie;-)

TripleL
TripleL

Indeed … I concur!

cosmic fleece
cosmic fleece

Your Mum was bang on the money EVB,
I stopped looking and yearning for a mate, put my energies and mind into studying something i was passionate about … 10 years married this year to the stand in Stonemason part time teacher, who took the job at the last minute despite having enough work on as it”Just felt right” – (Pisces)

Chrysalis
Chrysalis

I went into online dating super enthusiastic and idealistic, but it was awful, I will never do it again. Not my scene at all. If I do meet anyone again it will have to be through my social circles and networks, or while I’m busy living my life. My Cap moon-Lilith-Juno-Eros stellium runs that show now. Rules, standards, boundaries.

Electro
Electro

I think meeting someone through mutual friends is the best bet. I met my spouse in 1997, so I never even had the chance to try dating sites for sh!ts and giggles or reality. I do know one thing – this venus in Leo is something else. Said spouse is venus in Leo rising and he has been an emotional horny beast lately. I could barely sleep last night because he had a death grip on my hip bone. His curly mane is even wilder than usual (humidity is to blame for that one). My venus in Leo is in… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Well, my leo ascendant partner is grappling with transiting leo venus and jupiter lurking in his and my 12th, an aries stelilium 8th being hit by uranus, so it is me that is bruising his pelvic bone…My aries saturn and north node are activated by uranus in my 8th also…He has mars saturn taurus…in opposition to jupiter in scorpio,so a lot a fixed tension there needing release…The way I see it is the expansive desires, need saturn (which is in a square aspect to his first house) to be less punishing, fortunately at least scorpio is unrelentingly intense with investigation…We… Read more »

Electro
Electro

Just looked again, Jupes is in his 12th along with transiting venus. Woah. Also Saturn is squaring his natal venus. We’ve been having a rough patch. He is awesome but also emotionally clingy at times, especially lately. Can’t bang on about that too much here but basically I have an intense independent streak that I learned to internalize but there is only so long you can go with that. Chains of events and decisions kept us together but I wonder if I botched it all up. Not sure where to go with it all. I had this crazy experience where… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

I think I keep changing my mind on anwers. The clue is inside the query apparently…I keep reading and finding pieces, fragments. Last bird it was anima – shamanism to heal union between a man and woman. There is a concept of soul loss…paths to rediscovering or returning soul fulfills…I am sure your partner is suffering too, still the raw intimacy can be do lovely…on the last matter it ceased, it was heading along a dangerous route, pardon the pun!

Jokerman
Jokerman

From a practical perspective, a drink drunk and (implied) sex is not the greatest way to start relationship. And l say that with libido levels that are off the charts as MM keeps saying about us Kats on a Hot Tin Roof.

Online dating doesn’t allow conversations that otherwise might happen.
I got too many placements that makes me feel it is fake, or ppls are either too dismissive or just acting like wombats.

Skye
Skye

This topic reminds me that I’m old and cynical. I’ve always preferred meeting people IRL. A few years back when I was single I lasted on a dating site for about 5 days. It felt like a cattle market. It was full of liars and posers. It didn’t have that mystery and infinite possibility. The saddest profile I saw when trying to work out how to set up mine was from a 40 year old woman who basically told liars, time wasters and perverts to piss off and not bother contacting her because she’d had enough. I felt bad for… Read more »

Charley
Charley

Swiping strikes me as so clinical, it’s a major turn off. I do know some people who are very happy with Tinder hook ups that got serious though, so who am I to judge? Like you, I just know it ain’t for me.

Lindsey
Lindsey

Keep us posted when they ‘uncouple’.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Can’t do online dating. I don’t…translate on dating sites. People assume my penchant for leather and decadence equals Dominatrix.

I figured at the right time I would meet my Beloved via my work. You know, creative understanding other creative steez? All I know is that today I was caressing the AIR. I usually caress myself, the walls, pillows but nope, now it’s Air. Is it because of all these placements in Gemini of late? Or am I just THAT hungry I will touch even what I cannot see, lol.

Who the fugg knows – just BRING IT ON IN REAL TIME!!!!

;D

<3

Invicta
Invicta

You crack me up!

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

;p

Centaurus
Centaurus

Haha.. don’t translate. Who does right.. like really!

I don’t do online.. I like a live energy experience, I need to work with tactile vibration not cyber vibration and it’s always delivered as/when needed.. perhaps not always when wanted. My partners have always just appeared or at least manifested in such a way that it could look like that. And what’s more interesting or bizarre is I’ve always known it was them somewhat immediately when I met them despite not always feeling all hell yeah at the beginning!.

dizzarina
dizzarina

Yes, I have the same experience. I always know. And the other part of my brain says, him? Really?

Centaurus
Centaurus

I lol’d at that one DP. I recall one… in particular where I was introduced to someone who was standing back, holding back energy as well or maybe hiding intention (but not) and as we were out doors on a bright sunny day I recall immediately after the introduction gazing upward from behind my frames and in my head saying oh no, really.. don’t tell me this is who you’re sending me.. without skipping a beat in the light banter externally. And it came to pass that we had a long time of life lessons together before our respective ships… Read more »

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

Everyone I’ve ever been smitten with I picked up on straight away. I guess that whole ‘love at first sight’ vibe. I need mind/body/soul rocking and you can feel the energy when you meet a fellow ‘spark’ ;P

Centaurus
Centaurus

That’s the Toro way right.. my asc says make it feel real. I need to touch it. Senses need to be engaged and yes, sparked. It doesn’t matter whether it’s with hands, eyes, vibrations or whateves but touch definitely! 😉

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

You know? I used to let that Neptune in the 7th House make me create dreams and fantasies and projections (in collab with that Pisces Moon) but these days, nah uh. I can crush on someone AND know they’re wrong for me these days. Discipline is now my friend, lol ;p

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Venus in Leo loves being wooed – it likes (tangible) displays of affection. And this placement is a boon for the dating scene as a whole anyway – Solar energy is all about “affairs of the heart” and the dating GAME, after all!

I do think there is truth to this angle of interpretation, however with Venus in Leo contacting Uranus a total of 3 times between now and the end of September, I definitely wouldn’t totally rule out the possibility of online dating & mating, either.

The Venus Fly
The Venus Fly

I hear all about the ‘woo’ing’ that makes one go WHEW! See, THAT’S what’s it all about. None of these emoticon BS. At least not when sex is involved.

Dating and mating and fellating…anticipating indeed!!!

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

LMAO @ fellating!

😆

So long as it goes both ways – cannot abide a partner who will receive but not give! Leeb sez “reciprocity is key”!

Jokerman
Jokerman

You are a cunning linguist!

Electro
Electro

Omg, hahaha!

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Oh, touché – I do enjoy wordplay in all its forms and <3 double entendres!

LOL, look what we’ve started, TVF! 😀

TripleL
TripleL

And you are a master debator, vis-a-vis, Austin Powers! LOL 😀

Jokerman
Jokerman

Didnt he say mass debate/r?

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Oh dear, that’s so funny it hurts…I’d been giving and giving for decades…but was sceptical of really receiving any from men (after love affairs with women that changed everything) no thinking, lustful second nature (scorpio neptune 3rd house sextile to pluto, sextile to venus 5th dealing with a serious pluto transit, not to mention a rather intense 8th house at present), Thanks to the intense pluto driven pile of literature on my bedroom floor…I re-read my partner Kate Holden’s In My Skin…for bedtime whims. Savy prostitutes won’t allow unknown suitors anyway near their lower half with oral intentions, a man… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

As for offline dating, I had a status obsessed celebrity goddess boss once who was convinced photographs stole or siphoned from her own energy…maybe she didn’t do online well enough to be a present profitable venture, but who needs online, when you can just tune into the scorpio saturn vibes floating everywhere…magnetic, potential plundering indeed! In fact now that I think of it, leo venus would be stretching this to serious excesses…with assertive aries insights…I know the mess I am dealing with comes from an apollo daphne experience I am trying to shake off, truly unforseen during the phase, then… Read more »

Jokerman
Jokerman

All my relationshippy type planets (Asc, Mars, Pluto, Venus, Neptune) conjunct/trine/sextile each other -all first decan- Kat/Virg/Scorp. Plus they pow wow with my 2° SatCap to make it all very serious. The intensity overwhelms me at times. Thats a lot to deal with as far as seeking a partner goes.

I’ve used that joke before on here. Still gets a laff.

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Hello fellow intense being, celebrate it!

There’s a wonderful tale of marraige / seduction from the conchiti mexican people, (thomas Moore, Soulmates) tells the story of the coyote spirit who seduced a creative imaginative young women, he did this with magic to then marry her, but she allowed it because his interior values reflected her experiences from home, she wanted unusual partnership with potency, to honour her soul urge…

Jokerman
Jokerman

Sounds allegorical to my situ. The MM email,fr just now, says 3rd square of Merc Nep comes on 22/23 June. The other 2 dates corresponded with the moving along of attraction lm having with a Toro. I so hope it shifts it along. Ive been very good not calling or texting or pursuing her. I work with her and try n avoid where possible. Katscope says stick to your plan…. I go to water when l see her… Im such a girl! Haha

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

Oh the games, the fun, enjoy – I have never hooked up to anyone purely for courtships sake, but if there was no intrigue, what a chore it would be, the discipline, work and artfulness makes it all the more worthwhile…:-)

Jokerman
Jokerman

Ta. Hope it comes off!

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Hey! TYVM for the reading rec the other day – saw you responded to my query but it was 2-3 days after the fact so didn’t think you would see a reply! Darling, I’m fairly certain you and I could probably have back room convos about living and loving with Venus/Pluto for hours on end. As for unworthy suitors? Though I can intellectually differentiate passionate physical release from love and genuine affection (i.e. chemistry from actual compatibility), I don’t bed the unworthy. Truth be told, this Venus/Pluto girl has always erred more on the side of serial monogamy – I… Read more »

aquasunrise
aquasunrise

🙂 I am vesta sun conjunct, 6th…it is sextile 8th to north node, saturn, and transiting uranus…I will try to read the Demetra George book, thank you!

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Happy to return a favor <3

Pi
Pi

I would disagree that the role of a sex worker who has willingly entered the industry has been debased. I might propose that the industry yes even in ancient Greece has always held the full spectrum of needs, drives, desires and results both holy and/or depraved both for the customer and the service-provider. I recall learning the story or a sex worker who was campaigning for the rights of disabled people to experience pleasure, body contact and sexual healing, she was one such person who did so in a very respectful, charming and conscious way, now there’s a love goddess… Read more »

Pi
Pi

Gosh come to think of it, I’d love to know what her astro is.

Pi
Pi

Yeah I just said gosh.

Jokerman
Jokerman

Golly gosh, Gomer, you”re Pi-le of pun.

LiberatingVenus
LiberatingVenus

Oh, I concur wholeheartedly, Pi! Sorry if I wasn’t clear – more “Fun w/ Mercury square Neptune”, I see, LOL! 😉 I wasn’t meaning to imply that prostitution as a whole always had a halo around it “back in the day” – there is a reason it is referred to as “The Oldest Profession”, after all. That would be quite a naïve and incorrect broad-brush assumption. Rather, I was coming at it more from the angle of resonating with Demetra George’s take on the topic – it seems we (as a society) were better equipped for holding space for sacred… Read more »

Charley
Charley

Yes please. I’m still in recovery from Crab Trauma 2014/15 but if I ever venture into dating again then I’m keeping it strictly offline. I have a fear of the whole online dating thing that means I’d rather stay alone forever than go there. It just seems to send people a little crazy and they get greedy. There’s a false illusion that the opportunities are endless and people stay on the fence longer than they do IRL. I don’t know. I think certain types know how to work it well and successfully but it triggers all my low down Scorpy… Read more »

Charley
Charley

I should say that I did actually fall in love online last year but it wasn’t through a dating site, so the whole mode of communication was very different. The experience was very strange, very intense, we covered a LOT of ground before we got to meet in person and when we did the connection was instant and quite wonderful. I have no doubt that we were in love before we met in person and I was always highly skeptical about that, despite some of my best friends being people I’ve known online for over a decade, some of whom… Read more »

Fiona
Fiona

Yay for old school dating, is it more real?
And yay for Ellen Von Unwerth photography – what a legend!

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